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Itis hard to belive the news that V.Rev. Thomas Mundukuzhy had entered
to his eternal heavenly life on 30th Friday evening..  We are
extending our hearty condolances to the beraved family of Mundukuzhy
achan.

Mundukuzhy Achen was the back bone of the foundation of the  Sunday
school organization of the American Diocese. the articles that he
wrote were very informative and we have lost a lovely Father and it is
a great loss to us.

His departure in the 40th friday of the Great lent is a memorable day
and he shall be remembered as long as the presence of the Orthodox
Church in America and for ever.

Charly V. Padanilam.

Hearing Started on the petiton by Orthodox Church to remove certain
portions of Police protection case judgment by HC  at Court No 7 of
supreme court .
The case is posted for the final hearing on 3rd.

During hearing SC opinioned that the some portion of judgment need to
be expunged . Judgement has been deffered as JSC senior lawyer was not
present .
Source: Malayala Manorama


Thomas varghese

Dear Mr. Mathew,
This is with reference to your recent mail addressed to the office
bearers of Almayavedhi.As the chief spokesperson of the organization;
I think it is my duty to clarify the stand of the organization.
1.Yuvajanam is the official publication of Orthodox Youth Movement,
which is an official organization under the Holy Episcopal Synod.
Hence this publication cannot be treated on par with Malankara Sabha
Deep am or Jayadhwany etc or for that matter Almayavedhi.These
publications are independent of any Church patronage.
But the intriguing thing is that Yuvajanam Special campaigning for MGG
has been published without the Knowledge and consent of the President
of the Youth Movement or the Editor of that publication!
2. As in all issues relating to the Church, Vedhi has a stand and the
official publication of the vedhi do propagate that view have
explained in detail as to why we prefer Roy over Joy.Now, with regard
to the analysis of 735 in 5 days,pls read the full text where we have
stated that what matters in an election is victory.
3. Now, coming to Viswasa Samrakshakan, They have devoted large
quantum of space to attack Almayavedhi.As whereas they are all
sympathy and compassion for Mar Makarios, Mannaraprayil, P.C.Abraham
etc.Is it not self explanatory? They have no problem even with the
official Publications of MOC
4.Do you know that a letter said to have been written by some12
priests to HH the catholicose appeared wit Facsimile signatures in
Vswasa samrakshakan before HH cold see it. In Catholicose designate
election, Viswasasamrakshakan reported which bishop voted for whom.
(Even today we donot have that information) so are we to be blamed for
what that publication writes? Our church leaders are showing the
separatists like the mothers of rural areas try to scare their
children by Bhoot stories.The enlightened MOC crowd will no longer
take this Bhoot story anymore.

Thomas Chandy
General Secretary
Almayavedhi

ALMAYAVEDHI NEWS BULLETTIN
March 29

Pl. Visit
http://www.malankaraorthodoxalmayavedhi.org/Almaya%20Vedi/News%20Bullettin.htm
or
http://www.malankaraorthodoxalmayavedi.org/Almaya%20Vedi/Bullettin%20mar%2029.pd\
f

Joice Thottackad
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Orthodox Almayavedhi



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Dear alamayavedhi

In almayavedhi magazine it is written that its aim is for
strenghtening the walls of the church. But recent reporting styles,
articles and campaigning etc shows that it is deviating from its
original goal. As one member told earlier self criticisam is always
good, but it should be in a constructive way and when it exeeds  the
limit it is harmful to the church.

I also have seen recent issue of "sum rakshakan" . It has raised lot
of baseless stories about our church and almayavedhi. I dont know why
almayavedhi is not reacting against such false propagandas.

J.Jacob

You said it Mr. Thomas Varghese. Dear Office bearers,Please take up
the sentiments of Ordinary People.

Bino V J

Abu Dhabi



--- In MORM@..., "Thomas Varghese" <ajomattackal@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear all
> When Some online publicationsof Jacobite Church are reserving pages
for
> abusing Malayalamanorama, See this news
> http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-
> bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/malayalamContentView.do?
> contentType=EDITORIAL&programId=1073753765&articleType=Malayalam%
> 20News&contentId=2212753&BV_ID=@@@
>
> Malabar diocese of Jacobite church has given award to  the MD of
> Malayalamanorama for his excellence in work.
>
> Seems Interesting!
> Thanks
> Thomas varghese
>

Kathipparathadom Church - High Court Judgment

Pl. Visit
http://malankaraorthodoxalmayavedi.org/Judgement/judgement.htm
or
http://malankaraorthodoxalmayavedi.org/Judgement/kathipparathadom.htm

Joice Thottackad
PRO
Orthodox Almayavedhi



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Dear all
When Some online publicationsof Jacobite Church are reserving pages for
abusing Malayalamanorama, See this news
http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-
bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/malayalamContentView.do?
contentType=EDITORIAL&programId=1073753765&articleType=Malayalam%
20News&contentId=2212753&BV_ID=@@@

Malabar diocese of Jacobite church has given award to  the MD of
Malayalamanorama for his excellence in work.

Seems Interesting!
Thanks
Thomas varghese

Dear ALMAYAVEDHI Office bearers,
I was a supporter of the Almayavedhi and thought that it the voice of
the common man in our church. But the recent campaigning for the
trutee election changed my understanding. It was so obvious that
Almayavedhi supported Mr. Roy and tried hard to defeat Mr. Joy. As
some poited out, I'm also in no way related to these two gentlemen
from the same family and doing the same business. But it is not nice
for organization like this to do personal attacks this way. They
accused "Yuvajanam" supporting MGG, but what Almayavedhi did? It
carried the artcles campaigning for Roy. Even the supplement on the
election day said clearly that Mr. Roy is set to win. Was it a
deliberate attempt to influence the voters? After the election we saw
MGG won with securing a vast majority. Then "vedhi" says 735 votes is
just for 5 days of campaigning. ALMAYAVEDHI should not go to a
standard as low to that of "viswasasamrakhakan". which always publish
contradictory stories.
Some examples:
- During the previuos association some people aproached the court tp
prevent our bava from conevening the association and got a favorable
verdict. Then "samrakshakan" published their fotos on the front page
saying that they are the "veeraputhranmar". When we got the favorable
judgement from the higher court, they swallowed it and told (even
their advocate) that those people are from MOC itself and they did it
purposefully to get such a verdict? What a joke? Which is true?
- During the last days L.L Mathews II bava, they accused that we treat
Bava bad in his last days and said so many good things about him..
Read the latest edition what they write now..
- Makarios thirumeni is beloved for them now and they waste a lot of
space crying for him.. we can wait and see until when this love for
him last..
- Same is the case with people who lost power in the recent past..
mannaraprayil achen, P.C Abraham etc.. now they love them so much..

Now a substantial space of "samrakshakan" is reproduction from
Almayavedhi magazine. I hope the vedhi people will think of it.
Criticism is good if only constructive, not to destroy somebody.
Love,
Mathew
matkottayam" <matkottayam@...

Dear All

Well nown Communist leader  & writer  Sri. P. Govinda
pilla has written a book  about Late HG Paulose Mor
Greogorious with a title
  Paulose Mor Gregorious : Mathavum Rashtriyavum (
Paulose Mor Gregorious : Religion & Politics). It is
published by Chinta publishers and a review
of this book is available in one of the latest  issues
of Malayalam Varikha.

Thanking you

Shaju Joseph



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Book Review -- Faith of Our Fathers: Holy Faith.
Ed. Fr. A. K. Cherian. Published by Joice Thottackad, Sophia Books,
Kandathil Building, Temple Road, Kottayam - 686 001
------------ --------- -

Rev. Fr. A. K.Cherian's book Faith of Our Fathers: Holy Faith which
deals with the essentials of the Orthodox Church and its faith is a
great experience. It guides us in a pilgrimage through the treasures
of this most ancient Christian faith and also serves as a short but
useful guide in our momentary journey to eternity. A short and sweet
description of various topics like the Church, the Holy Tradition, the
Holy Sacraments, important orthodox beliefs and their Biblical
foundations, Orthodox understanding of Spiritual life, Liturgy in the
New Testament Church etc., prepares an enlightening experience. Faith
in the Orthodox Christian perspective is not only something to be
explained but to be experienced too.

Orthodox theology is not just an academic exercise. No Orthodox
theologian separates theology and spirituality. This book from a
senior Orthodox Christian Priest of the American Diocese of the Indian
Orthodox Church is also a good example of a spiritual theology
characteristic of the Orthodox Tradition. His long pastoral
experiences as well as a genuine concern for the future of the Church
especially in its Diaspora context give an added dimension to the
richness of the book. Just one passage from the note on `A Guide to
the Spiritual Life' in the third section will give us a pre-taste of
this: "Let me ask you sincere question. Are you willing to flee to
Jesus Christ for protection in His Holy Church, to learn to know Him,
to be cleansed and changed? If so, a new life in Christ lies ahead for
you."

Jimmy Carter, the ex -President of America in his famous book Living
Faith has described beautifully the two trends of Christianity in
America of which one gives more emphasis to superficial emotional
spirituality whereas the other emphasizes the true discipleship that
is sacrificial. Such a categorization is possible every where. And he
prefers to be part of the second category though it is a minority.
Holy Faith is guiding and leading us to genuine Christian
discipleship. In line with the Orthodox Christian tradition he
explains how God is using the church to help us to grow in this
discipleship to its perfection.

H. G. Paulose Gregorios' introduction to the Orthodox Churches in the
beginning and Rev. Fr. Dr. K. M. George's writing on the Malankara
Orthodox Church in an ecumenical perspective at the end serve as two
solid pieces of bread which sandwiches the delicious stuff of Rev. Fr.
A.K.Cherian's writing and also his collections from the scripture,
theology, church history etc. It is noticeable that even if he is the
author of the most portion of the book, he mentions himself just as an
editor of the book.

Hope that in future when this will be revised and published again a
little modification and addition will be done. For example a note on
the Holy Spirit, Lent and Fasting etc can be supplemented. It is also
desirable to interpret the faith, taking into consideration the
onslaught of secularism, materialism, consumerist culture etc. A more
clear picture of the Holy Tradition of the church with capital `T' and
traditions in the church with small `t' will also be useful.

H.G.Dr. Gabriel Mar Gregorios in his preface to the book writes thus:
"The Faith of our fathers: Holy Faith is a treasure where we find
several priceless pieces of information regarding the faith, life and
history of the Orthodox Church amazingly brought together. This will
be very much appreciated by all especially the youth of the Orthodox
Diaspora. Every page of this book shows that the author has a clear
understanding of Orthodox faith and what all to be included so that
the young generation of the Orthodox Church be benefited." To those
who open and use this valuable gift prepared and given by respected
Cherian Achan, it will be a rich piece of edification.

-Fr. Bijesh Philip

PUROHITHAN
(Official Organ of the Clergy Association
of the Orthodox Syrian Church of the East)
March 2007

Pl. Visit
http://www.malankaraorthodoxalmayavedhi.org/Purohithan/purohithan.htm


Joice Thottackad
Kottayam, Kerala



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Jesus Prayer (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner) is a very ancient accepted personal spiritual prayer. It reflects the art of prayer of the Eastern Orthodox Churches. “Philokalia” mentions about Jesus Prayer. Isaac of Nineveh exhorts us to destroy the evil in the name of Jesus. “The Way of Piligrim” is a classic work on Jesus Prayer. (Ramakrishna Mission has published the Malayalam version of “The Way of Piligrim” – Oru theerthadakante Sancharam)

This book gives the entertaining tale of a pilgrim who wanted to know how one can pray ceaselessly as St. Paul says (1 Thess.5: 17- “Pray without ceasing”). An Abbot leads him to the “Jesus Prayer.” The book tells of his travels through Russia. Each new stop becomes a home for a moment for this happy wanderer who has only a knapsack – copy of Philokalia, Bible and a few crusts of bread –, but who finds goodness and plenty wherever he goes.

This prayer was taken from Mark 10:47, Bartimaeus’ prayer to Jesus Christ: “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me.” However, its origins go back to the Old Testament belief that the Names of God carried Divine energy. This belief was carried forward by the first Christians’ feeling about the name of Jesus (Jn. 16:23-24; Acts 4:10). Also, the early Christian monks who went out into the desert to live and pray in the second through the fourth centuries had a preference for short, repetitious prayer (monological prayer). Orthodox Churches have looked to these Desert Fathers as a major source of spiritual wisdom. A favorite repetitious prayer of these monks was “Kyrie eleison” (Lord, have mercy). By the sixth century, the statement of the tax collector in Lk. 18:13 became the basis of the prayer. “God, have pity on me, a sinner.”

Form and Method: A word or group of words is selected, usually with the aid of an elder. Often, only the name of “Jesus” is used. The most widely accepted form is: “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Some use only the words: “Lord, have mercy.” Select a phrase or words to use. Then repeat the phrase over and over again with a rhythm of our breath. Try to continue this practice for a period of time: for example, five minutes, then ten minutes, then twenty minutes, etc. Rosary can be used in the prayer. It becomes the part of our heart, through continuous practice. Finally we will recite this prayer with every beat of the heart. Really it is an indefinable heavenly experience.

Jesus Prayer is very common in Ethiopia, especially in the Holy Liturgy of Ethiopian Orthodox Church. They recite the Jesus Prayer in Geez (the liturgical language of Ethiopian Orthodox Church): Egzio maharena Krestos (O Lord Christ, have mercy upon us). Other monological prayers are: Be’enta Maryam maharena Krestos (For the sake of Our Lady Maryam, Christ have mercy upon us) and Kyrie eleison.

In his work “Rajayoga,” Swami Vivekanada explains the Indian method of monological prayer. It explains the yoga sutra of Patanjali. This book is very helpful to practice ceaseless prayer. We can practice the Rajayoga with Jesus Prayer or Kyrie eleison.

Fr Jose Thomas Poovathumkal
St Frumentius Theological College
Post Box 1444, Makalle, Tigray, Ethiopia.
Ph: +251 344 400311 (Res)+251 914 720271 (Mob)
Mulakulam North, Piravom - 686664,Kerala, India.
Ph: +91 9447024355
E-Mail: josachen@...

Dear Mr. Thomas Chandy

     Yes,  I am an independent observer and appreciate
your view points on many of the issues. But still I
wonder how can you take different stand in the case of
Muthoot Roy and Muthoot George. I could not see much
difference in both of them. Like Mr. Ronnie ( Digest
No :242), I also think  'Both are blades and both are
not eligible to be in the administration of our
church'.

     You have pointed out so many reasons against
Muthoot Joy . That does not mean that we have to
support Mr. Roy who is well known for his
'Muthoot Mini' operations. I hope , in future
'Almayavedhi'  will support and promote only  strong
persoanlities with clean background.

Thanking you

Shaju Joseph

Thomas Chandy wrote ::
>>>

Your views have engaged our careful attention.

1.We have nothing against Mr.M.G.George as a person
and Muthut family.
2.We have not accused all association members as
having accepted money
from Mr.George.But there are quiet a few who have
recieved favours
both in cash and kind.He even tried to buy the support
of Almaya Vedhi
by offering a huge amount.
3.He pressed into his campaign work non-Christian and
people of other X tian denominations who are his paid
employees.
4.He published false claims stating that he is the
originator of Divya
Bodhanam and he is the one responsible for winning
Puthuppally Pally Case.
We oppose such actions and not him as a person.
His goons attacked a senior citizen member of
Almayavedhi whose only
crime was that he was campaigning for Roy Muthut.

If you are really an independent observer you should
be able to
apreciate our view points,irrespective of whether you
are in agreement
or disagreement with us.

Thomas chandy
General secretary,
Almayavedhi

The March 2007 edition of "Shroro " is now online

Dear friends and brethren,

The March 2007 edition of "Shroro - The Syriac Orthodox Christian
digest" http://www.socdigest.org is now online.

Your dedication to the faith has given birth to Shroro, and your love
and interest has made the tremendous growth in this magazine leading
to its immediate success.

We ask that you pray for us, so that we may better serve our
community's interests in coming years.

Shroro Editorial Board
http://www.socdigest.org

Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
Managing Committee Members
Pl. Visit:
http://www.malankaraorthodoxalmayavedhi.org/Association/Managing%20Committee%20M\
embers.htm

Joice Thottackad
PRO & Web Co-ordinator
Orthodox Almayavedhi




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Dear Moderator/ Editor:

Thanks very much for the clarification!
I appreciate your effort for getting some (may not be all) facts to
the other well wishers of the Church!

Few thoughts to make this more attractive:

1. You have responded to my previous query of why Almayavedi is
against our new Almaya Trustee. I understand some details thru your
mail. But, you see one of other another Internet based publication –
Orthodox herald. If you look at the latest edition with introduction
of our Almaya Trustee, candidates; they have very well indicated that
Mr. George was part of winning the Puthuppally case! So, what should
we (people like me) take as the right input?  We are confused! Though
these are NOT the our Church's official publication, we should have
some way of passing and publishing the right/ correct information
thru these medias.
2. Criticism is always good, but it should be constructive
criticism. With an example: look at viswasasamrakhan publication from
Jacobites. Though, this is an official publication of Jacobites, you
don't feel like reading it because their intention is to write some
rubbish about other faction and some rumors! But, look at our
official publication - Malankara Sabha.


So, my request is – continue the good job! Be constructive!!

Thanks, Thomas.
Note from Moderators:

  Please refer to Almayavedhi issue Feb15 to Mar15.We have published what
Mr.K.P.Kuriakose,only living person at present who among  the
plaintiffs in puhuppally church.He has catagorically stated that MGG has no role
in conducting or exection of court order in Puthuppally pally case

Dear Shaju,

Both are blade and both are not eligible to be in the administration
of our church unless they openly and publicly dissociate themselves
from thier activities of looting poor people.
There is no point in taking from poor people with one arm and giving
part of it to the poor with the other arm.

However, as a church we have no choice as there are not many people
out there who has the resources to run an institution as big as our
church.
So, we are in a situation to choose between the two devils.
One has some annointing and serving in the Altar in an elevated
spiritual position.
And the other marked difference between the two is that one wanted
the position at any cost and the other wanted it if God wanted to
give it to him.
I have no connection with both of them; but when I evaluate both on
the basis of what I heared about them, I prefer the one serving the
lord in the Altar.

Rgds
Ronnie




--- In MORM@..., shaju joseph <joseph_shaju@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Moderator
>
>    Could you pls give us an idea why you  are
> campaigning a lot against Mr. George  Muthhoot and
> supporting a lot to Mr.Roy Muthoot. I dont have any
> relation with Muthoot family and not associated with
> any of their bussiness. So as an almayan both are
> similar to me. As per my knowledge both are from same
> family, same back ground  and running similar type of
> bussinesses and people of Keral having a good idea
> about it. How can we say that Muthoot Roy is an angel
> and Muthoot george is a ' Blade :)
>
>   These type of cnavasing and statements will be
> harmfull to the Almayavedhi and also I think it is
> deviating  from the priciples.
>
> Thanking you
>
> Shaju Joseph
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Dear Cor Episcopo Achen

Well, AChen I came to the final part of my response which is reply to
your Part 4 is SOCM.

At least there are a few Priests and a whole lot of people on our
side who are prepared to fight with our Hierarchy to gain peace by
forgoing property.  That is not because of a faulty leadership on our
side; but because our people know that peace is more worthy than
assets. Our people also  believe that property is a blessing from
God. But, I have not seen many from your side asking for it. In fact
your people support leaders who are prepared to fight and catch
property by any means.

Mar Thoma church has separated from us taking nothing. They have
grown far bigger than us. Same is the case with Malankara Rite. They
too have grown in to a far bigger church. Did you compare the fate of
the Patriarch groups separated from us many times in the past . Do
you really know what growth the Knanaya Church, or Thozhiyoor church
or Simhasana churches have achieved.  Where do they stand in
comparison with Mar Thoma Church and Malankara Rite?  From the past
experience we know  that your new 2002 Church will have the same
fate. The unity and growth you see today in your church is because of
this  fight which is going on. Your captors will swallow you once
this fight is over. They will divide you and rule. We are in fact not
fighting for us, we are fighting for you.

About your offer of sister church status - Well, it is a good idea to
invade in to some ones two storied  home and then offer a peace
saying give me the first floor of the house and  I will allow you to
live in peace on the ground floor. Consider MOSC as a two storied
house, ground floor in the South and first floor in the North. We had
a fire long ago in the house and we invited our brother in Syria to
come and help us to fight the fire. They came and in the process of
fighting the fire they happened to live in a room in the first floor
of our house and made collaboration with our children when the
parents were sleeping. I am sure you guessed the story line…

We respect the agreement we made in the middle of the fire fighting.
We put the Syrian church as part of the foundation of our house in
the first clause of our constitution as a gratitude for the help they
gave us in time of our need.  As a gratitude for keeping us alive
today as we are. I agree that we would not have been existing as it
is today if the Syrian church did not come to our help.
But, still I think the house is owned by us. How can they take
advantage of the help they gave us and come and occupy our first
floor and offer us peace that we can live in the ground floor and we
will not trouble you. Is this what you mean by offering a sister
church status ??  You can build any number of  floors above the first
floor, but unfortunately you have no right to it as it sits in our
property and  the foundation  is  our constitution where the Syrian
church is a pillar as well. Do you think it is possible to separate
one floor built above and move it to another location.  So, now your
leaders   chose to  destroy the first floor and at the same time in
2002 started building a new house in your own property and your own
foundation.

You can build up to heaven on your new foundation and no one is going
to stop you. You should have done this long ago. Now  you already
started building your house and you still keep one leg on our first
floor and we know that your intention is to destroy what you build
before you go. Well, that is fine with us and it may shake our
foundation little bit. But, that is ok. May be God has a reason for
it. When you shake our foundation, you may be ultimately helping us
to remove the Syrian pillar from our foundation. Our aim at present
is to save our children living in the first floor who are loyal to
their birth father and also to protect the faith of their departed
parents. We have a responsibility for their safety and you  may call
it as property grab or asset grab or whatever.

Your leaders came up with new story line that the foundation of our
house  belongs to you and we are the one separated in 1912. Well you
fought over and over and again and again to find out who built the
house, who is the owner and you were told repeatedly by the
Municipality that there is only one house, one owner and one fire
fighter.
Achen, I do understand that it is difficult to build from scratch,
but we can help if you approach us in the proper way. But, you don't
want to do that. I have a forecast if the situation continues like
this.  1958 will be repeated in 2008, that is exactly 50 years
after . And in 2012, that is exactly after 100 years, 1912 will be
repeated.  If it was the relocation of the Catholicate in 1912, in
2012 it will be the  relocation of the Patriarchate to India. The
shape of the Arab world will change in the next few years and it will
not be possible for the Patriarchate to exist in Syria. In spite of
all the help provided by the Indian Church, the Syrian church did not
do anything to change itself. It never added a  soul to Christianity
than sitting on our shoulders and eating from our growth and dividing
our people again and again.  Do you think that God will always turn a
blind eye to such irresponsible activities. And you are supporting
injustice in the name of one Syrian church, one throne, one leader
etc. etc.

Re-location of Catholicate – Can you guide me to  the detailed post
about this issue in the SOCM forum. I will comment after reading your
narration about the foundation, bridging and legality of succession.
As we do not agree mutually on this, I think the best thing is to
follow the SC ruling on this issue.

If  the Mafrian and CAtholicos are the same why you want your leader
to  be known as a Catholicose ?

Well in the last part of your mail Achen you asked me a question  "
Are you and your leadership willing to accept the 'Patriarch as the
Spiritual Supreme head of the church and he is spiritually superior
to the Catholicose?' ( SC judgment of 1995).

Is there a doubt about it still ?? This is what we agreed in return
for the fire fighting. This is a pillar we added to our church when
the fire fighting was over. This is what is mentioned as clause 1 of
the constitution. We remember HH in the Tubden. I don't think any one
from our side has any doubt about it.  Why  our people are troubled
about it is because your leaders catch on this one pillar and say
that it is the only pillar we need for the house. They see clause no.
1 in isolation from all the other clauses in the constitution. That
is where the problem is. That is why our people wanted to remove this
clause 1. Not because of disrespect to the Holy Patriarch.

Now, about the right of  Parishioners – Great subject Achen. I hope
achen you read the  Kathiparathadam judgment. "  the mere
circumstance that the decision in that suit was rendered without the
Patriarch churches on the party array will not prevent the decision
from operating against them and binding them as well"
Well, achen,  I do not ignore the  bad verdict our side got in the
Police protection case.  But, that apparently was an observation in
connection with a  case filed by our side and you no way can construe
it as a judgment  favoring you. That is my understanding of the law.
Observations are observations and will not become part of the
judgment. Same is the case with Kathiparathadom judgment as well. The
contradiction in the SC majority judgment is an observation of the HC
judge. Our side cannot say that, OK a high court judge found a new
point in the SC majority judgment and therefore, we can implement the
SC decision in every church which was not a party to the case in the
supreme court. We have to cut and paste this HC judgment in  to the
Supreme court and  let them say it and then it will be implemented.

You can interpret it any way you want and in any case a final
decision will come from  SC  and then you will see who is right and
who is wrong. What we ask of you is patience. If you think the court
order is favoring you and as every one knows you have a friendly
government, why  you wanted to  create law and order problem similar
to Thrikkunnathu Seminary. As far as I know most of the closed down
churches have made alternate worshipping facilities for both factions
in nearby places. So, your demand for opening the churches is not
exactly for worshipping opportunity, but for creating new status
quoes.

Please do not for a moment think that I am favorable to court cases.
The fact that we are in  a litigation means that we are sinners. But,
what is good ?? Litigation or Crucification. Every time we take this
fight to the street, don't forget that we are crucifying Jesus Christ.

Reply to me Achen and may be you will be enriching your members too.
I think I have covered most of the questions you have raised Achen.
Please remind me if any thing is missing.

Rgds
Ronnie Daniel
Toronto, Canada

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My name is Mini Roy, my home in Kerala at Pattazhi near Kottarakara
and settled in Ludhiana, Punjab. Now member of St. Gregorios Orthodox
Syrian Church, Ludhiana.
I hope I will get information about our day by day Sabha activities,
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In Jesus,

Mini Roy

Dear Moderator

    Could you pls give us an idea why you  are
campaigning a lot against Mr. George  Muthhoot and
supporting a lot to Mr.Roy Muthoot. I dont have any
relation with Muthoot family and not associated with
any of their bussiness. So as an almayan both are
similar to me. As per my knowledge both are from same
family, same back ground  and running similar type of
bussinesses and people of Keral having a good idea
about it. How can we say that Muthoot Roy is an angel
and Muthoot george is a ' Blade :)

   These type of cnavasing and statements will be
harmfull to the Almayavedhi and also I think it is
deviating  from the priciples.

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Your views have engaged our careful attention.

1.We have nothing against Mr.M.G.George as a person and Muthut family.
2.We have not accused all association members as having accepted money
from Mr.George.But there are quiet a few who have recieved favours
both in cash and kind.He even tried to buy the support of Almaya Vedhi
by offering a huge amount.
3.He pressed into his campaign work non-Christian and
people of other X tian denominations who are his paid employees.
4.He published false claims stating that he is the originator of Divya
Bodhanam and he is the one responsible for winning Puthuppally Pally Case.
We oppose such actions and not him as a person.
His goons attacked a senior citizen member of Almayavedhi whose only
crime was that he was campaigning for Roy Muthut.

   If you are really an independent observer you should be able  to
apreciate our view points,irrespective of whether you are in agreement
or disagreement with us.

Thomas chandy
General secretary,
Almayavedhi

WE all know that the Malnakara Othodox Church have been going through
a lot of administarrive problems for the past few decades. Its high
time we bring about suggestions for the improvement of our church. The
folloeing are some of the suggetsions put forward for the improvement
of the church administration

Suggestions for improvement - The Indian (Malankara) Orthodox Church

1. There must be a strong media policy for the church. Proper
advertisements and news updates must be provided in all the news
papers and television channels. For e.g. Metropolitan Kirils Visits
was not given much importance and news coverage. But this was done by
Sunday Shalom, a catholic newspaper were they provided photos and a
detailed interview of Metropolitan Kiril. The same thing happened to
the Visit made by the Ethiopian Patriarch. Our people doest not know
what orthodoxy is … especially oriental and eastern orthodox churches
and our relations with them. Most of the church news are kept away
from the common man. Strong steps must be taken to convey the
activities of the church and its mission to the common man. People in
         our church are unaware of the Brahmavar and other missions
done by the church. E.g. the change of St. James independent Syrian
church of America under the spiritual leadership of our church was not
reported any were except in (ww.icon.org.in).

2. The church must restructure and design a new website with regular
news updates. The present site is of very poor quality… A site on
St.Thomas and Catholicose of the east must be posted. In this modern
world our church cannot grow without the adequate technological back
up. The websites and the information in it will help the youngsters to
know more about our church. Most of the websites of several parishes
have got better quality than the church's official website. The total
information, regular news updates, picture gallery, the archives of
our church, various links and other necessary information must be
provided in the new website. There can be a special space to be able
to proceed without adequate technological back up. E.g. (Vatican's
post suggestions, questions and comments from our church members and
others. Effort must be taken to post websites for each diocese,
special initiatives, important organizations, our educational
institutions etc. The modern century is the period of technological
advancement and innovations. The church will not website can be
adopted as a model). It is always advisable if the church is able to
host websites of all its most important and ancient parishes,
hospitals organizations etc. A special department can be formed at
Devalokam to coordinate these activities/or restructure the present
technical department of the church. The parishes and other
organisation can forward their news update, snaps and other materials
and the technical department can post them on the concerned websites.

3. The status of the Catholicose of the all east must be checked,
because in India we have two more Catholicose, one of the Jacobite
group and another of the Malankara catholic group. It seems that the
status of Catholicose is limited to the blessings of baptism and
marriage ceremonies. The position of Catholicose of the all east has
been degenerating for the past few years especially due to the
problems with the Jacobite church. This must change indeed; we must
look for new titles may be like father of Indian church, Patriarch of
India… along with the present position… and must gain the position of
VVIP with security from the government. While providing news in papers
our Bava thirumeni must be addressed as Malankara Metropolitan,
Successor of St.Thomas, His Holiness, and Catholicose of the east
purposefully. Upgrade the position of Catholicose of the East to the
Indian Patriarch (along with Catholicose of the all East and Malankara
Metropolitan), if necessary. It will be better if we are able to
constitute three Catholicoses under the Indian Patriarch. One
Catholicose must be made in charge of the churches and mission inside
Kerala (For Malankara) second one for outside kerala and the next one
must be made in charge of the churches and mission outside India. (The
Armenians have got two Patriarchs under their Catholicose as well as
the head of Georgian Orthodox Church is addressed as the Catholicose-
Patriarch). It can also be in the other way round; constituting three
Patriarchs under the Catholicose of the all East.

4. A bible of our own. All support must be give to the job done by
MGOCSM to bring out a bible of our own and this must be made our
official bible…

5. A TV Channel of our own, which can broadcast Indian as well as
world orthodox programmes, news etc… along with a radio channel...
like the Vatican radio…

6. Establish a joint council for peace and cooperation between the
Malankara Church and other major religions and communities like the
Muslims, Hindus, Buddhist, Janis, Sikhs, Ezhava, Nair and other major
groups… The council must meet at least once in a year.

7. We must have a national orthodox convention in which the leaders of
the oriental and eastern orthodox churches must be invited… (e.g. the
Maramon Convention)

8. There must be a separate diocese for Middle East, U.K, Africa as
well as Australia and New Zealand (together). There are a lot many
Malankara Orthodox members in Africa where they lack a proper church.
We have a lot of people in Africa, who needs special attention. It
would be better if the dioceses are known in the name of each district
(within kerala), each state (outside kerala) and each country (outside
India). This will provide more recognition for our church.

9. Special status to the Brahmavar mission. A metropolitan can be
constituted and the Brahmavar mission can be raised to the status of a
diocese church. (e.g. The Knanaya arch diocese under the patriarch of
Antioch)

10. A separate world class university of our own, teaching theology as
well as other subjects (e.g. Amrita University). Am afraid whether any
of our colleges are able to get the five start status from NAAC. We
don't have a large number of organizations, what we can do is to
covert the existing institutions to a world class level.

11. Close links and ties with Mar Thoma orthodox church of America
which has inherited our tradition…

12. HRD training to deacons, priest's, bishops and all the
administrative and spiritual leaders of our church, once in every six
months.

13. Paulose Mar Gregorious the late bishop is not given the due
respect in our church. He was one of the best personalities our church
ever had… in its history. His works must be coordinated and published
properly.

14. An ultimate solution and peace with the Jacobite church. If unity
is not possible we must at least establish a working relationship with
them respecting their arguments… There must be a joint council of
peace and cooperation between the two churches.

15. There are a lot of well qualified persons within our church. We
must tap out there potential and bring them together to generate the
necessary ideas and suggestions to improve the functioning of our church.

16. The church apart from the SYNOD must take steps to form an
advisory committee which must contain experts from different
disciplines so as to improve the quality of the administration of our
church.

17.  Try the level best to collect and publish the pictures and
information of all our church heads starting from St.Thomas to the
present Catholicose.

18. The church will have to take initiatives to establish more of
NGO'S to develop the Kerala community like the catholic community
(e.g. TSSS, QSSS and MSSS). IF possible we must open a new chapter of
International Orthodox Christian Charities (IOCC) in Kerala. Church
must be able to start NGOS according to its interest area and must be
able to generate jobs.

19. A daily newspaper for our church.

20. Make initiatives to print coins in the name of St.Gregorious of
Parumala, the first Indian Saint. International tourism destination
status to Parumala church and other important pilgrim centres of the
church.

The above mentioned activities can be properly implemented only if
they are departmentalized in a systematic manner. The church must be
able to departmentalize its activities in a systematic manner.
Developing departments like welfare, research and development,
administration, outreach activities etc.

The above mentioned suggestions are strictly confined to the
administration of the church. I strongly believe that the above
suggestions to an extend will help to improve the quality and quantity
of the administration of our church. Today Church has got the
financial back up as well as the human back up to perform the same.

  About the author- Am George  hailing from KArthigappally Taluk of
Allapuzaha Dstrict in Kerala. Am trained in Social Work and doing my
Final year MSW at Loyola College, Trivandrum. I belong to St.Thomas
Orthodox CAthedral, Karthigappalyy(MAvelikara Diosces).I also work as
the joint secretary of Insight Mission acentre commited to youth and
social empowerment(www.insightmission.ingame.org)
                                                    George Alexander

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Malankara Orthodox Church trustees elected

Staff Reporter

Meet ratifies nomination of 129 members

  PATHANAMTHITTA: Fr. Johns Abraham Konatt of the Kandanad diocese and
M.G. George Muthoot of the Delhi diocese were elected the new Clergy
Trustee and Lay Trustee respectively of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian
Church at the meeting of the 51st Malankara Syrian Christian
Association (MSCA) held at Parumala on Wednesday.

The MSCA meeting has also ratified the nomination of 43 clergy
representatives and 86 lay members from 25 different parishes of the
Church to the managing committee of the association on the occasion.

Malankara Metropolitan and Catholicos of the East Baselius Mar Thoma
Didymos-I presided over the association meeting held at the St.
Gregorios Nagar (Parumala Seminary premises) on the banks of river
Pampa in the afternoon. The Catholicos and other bishops were accorded
a rousing reception and they were escorted to the meeting venue in a
procession from the St Peter's and St Paul's Church, earlier.

Meanwhile, the Catholicos also nominated 30 members, including 10
priests, to the MSCA managing committee on Wednesday.

As per an official communication issued to the press by Catholicos in
the evening, the 10 priests and 20 other lay members who have been
nominated to the managing committee are: Priests: Fr. K.M.George, Fr.
V.M.Abraham, Fr. Spenser Koshy, Fr. T.C.John Mavelikkara, Fr. John
Paul Chengannur, Fr. O.Thomas, Fr. K.A. Abraham, P.C. Yohanan Ramban,
Fr. P.K. Geevarghese Niranom, Fr. Shaji Mathews, Delhi.

Lay members: Philip Mathew (Malayala Manorama), P.C. Abraham (Kottayam
Central), P.G. Jacob (Kottayam), Shaji Abraham (Calcutta), Jacob
Mathew (Malaysia), Dr. George Poovathoor (the United State), George
Paul (Ernakulam), Thomsa John Mambara (Mahatma Gandhi University),
A.K. Thomas (Kollam), Jacob John (Thiruvananthapuram), K.T.Idiculla
(the United State), K.V. Jacob (Ernakulam), T.A.George (Thumpamon),
I.C. Thampan (Kottayam, P.C.John Painummoottil (Thumpamon), Thomas
Varghese (Aluva Thrikkunnathu), P.K.Pathrose (Servant of the Cross),
P.K. Kuriakose (Idukki), E.J.John (Kottayam) and George Mathai
Nooranal (Malabar).

Catholicos designate Paulose Mar Milithios and other Metropolitans of
the Church, Geevarghese Mar Osthathios, Mathews Mar Epiphaneus,
Philipose Mar Eusebius, Kuriakose Mar Cleemis, Youhanon Mar Milithios,
Zacharias Mar Anthonios, Mathews Mar Savarios, Paulose Mar Pachomios,
Yakoob Mar Ireneus, Zacharias Mar Theophilus, Youhanon Mar
Chrisostomos, Stephanose Mar Theodosius, Thomas Mar Athanasios, Dr.
Thomas Mar Athanaseus, Augen Mar Dynesius, Gabriel Mar Gregorios and
Church secretary Dr. Alexander Karackal also addressed the meeting.

O.P. Sosamma, State Land Revenue Commissioner of Tamil Nadu, was the
returning officer.

According to official sources, a total votes polled in the election
was 3,244.

Fr. Konatthu who was declared elected the Clergy Trustee got a total
of 2,059 votes in his kitty while Mr. George, who won the election to
the post of the Lay Trustee, got 2,097 votes in his favour.

http://www.hindu.com/2007/03/22/stories/2007032207830500.htm

Malankara Association Over: Fr. Johns Abraham Konattu and Muthoot M.
G. George as Trustees of the Church

IOH News Service


Parumala: March 19, 2007 :: A meeting of the Malankara Syrian
Christian Association, the 4,051-member parliament of the Malankara
Orthodox Syrian Church, was  held at St. Gregorios Nagar on the
Parumala Seminary premises today.

Fr. Johns Abraham Konattu was declared elected as the priest Trustee
of the Malankara Orthodox Church here in Parumala. Muthoot M. G.
George is the Lay Trustee elected. They will function as the Trustees
of the Church until 2012.
A total number of 3244 members participated in the Malankara Syrian
Christian Association and caste their votes in the election for the
posts of co-trustees with the Malankara Metropolitan. The election
result was published at 6.15pm today.

Fr. Konattu (Priest Trustee) got 2059 votes and Muthoot M.G. George
got 2097 votes.

The election result was declared by the Malankara Metropolitan H.H.
Baselios Marthoma Didymos I, who is the president of the Malankara
Syrian Christian Association.

The new Managing Committee of the Church was also elected in this
Association meeting.

O.P.Sosamma I.A.S of Tamil Nadu was the chief election officer .

Sabha Secretary Dr.Alexander Karackal said vote of thanks.

Hi Moderator & All,

I don't see any REASON why Almayavedi is SO against the newly
elected 'Almaya' Trustee!
I have observed in the recent editions (of Almayavedi) that, you are
campaigning a lot against Mr. George and supporting a lot to Mr.Roy M. Mathew.

You also claim that, Mr. George had spent a lot of money in general
as well as on each Association Member (??? - I am not sure how is
this possible!)  If the latter part is true, that means that you are
accusing that MOST of the Association Members have accpeted any
types of BRIBE! If you are an Association Member, will you agree
with this?

Secondly, though there were enough supporting and opposing campaigns
against Mr. George, look at the margin of votes casted during the
election process!! As an independent member, how do you evaluate
this?
I feel he has the capacity and ability to become the Almaya Trustee
and MOST of the Association Members have accepted this fact and that
how he won in this election!

PS: I am not a supporter of neither Mr. George nor Mr.Roy M. Mathew or to
Muthoot family. This is just my view as an independent reader of
Almayavedi.
I am not sure whether you will publish this or not, but to express
my feelings to you.

Best regards, Thomas.

Dear Cor Episcopo Achen,

Thank you Achen for your reply in the SOCM forum.  Respected Achen, I
felt really bad when you apologized to me. Achen, please be assured
that you did not go wrong any where. Unlike some other members your
communication is not abusive. That is why I said I would like to have
a conversation with you in order to understand whether the position I
took in this whole  Church dispute issue is right or wrong. I may not
change if I find it wrong, because I believe that my forefathers
cannot go wrong with what they did for their future generations. But,
at least I will stop  being an activist for what is wrong and I will
completely stop arguing with others when I am convinced that their
stand is wrong. I have no other intention of continuing this
conversation. I don't want to be famous. I don't get any satisfaction
repeating the stories again and again. I am not planning to stand for
any positions in church. Wherever I had positions, I did not run for
it. So, please be assured that I will not and I repeat I will not
misuse the opportunity you give me to make me understand the
situation.
My firm belief is that I did not use any abusive language to you
Achen. Some members commented that my writing is melodious. It is not
because I wanted to make it sweet. Because  I really love the person
with whom I communicate because he helps me to enhance my knowledge.
I agree that we have different convictions, different opinions,
different ideas. No two persons on this earth is same. That is the
beauty of God's creation. It is for us to love and respect another
person in the same condition he or she is, rich or poor, sick or
healthy, beautiful or ugly, black or white, man or woman,  thief or
honest. Hate the sin, not the sinner.

Anyway that was the introduction Achen. Achen please believe me I am
not writing this letter with hate. I simply cannot hate any one. That
is not my style. I may argue an idea. But, I detach a person from his
ideas. Of course it is human nature to be angry with a person having
a different idea than yours. But, I slowly learn to detach a person
from his  ideas.
My reply to you will be in the MORM forum ( again if they are willing
to put it – I don't force them either )  and it is OK if you reply me
through SOCM forum.
Why I did not  reply to every point you asked is because I did not
want to make the message lengthy.
If you don't have a problem with that I will reply to every point you
make :

So, let me start with each  messages you posted to me in SOCM.

In the  first part  you wanted an answer why MKK achen said your
faction is unprincipled. I cannot answer for MKK achen, but I can
tell you why some among MOSC feel so.   This I will give as an answer
to the 16 points questions you raised in the ICON forum. We can
discuss about this for hours. But, I think there is no point in doing
so unless we are able to elevate ourselves to a different level. We
have to first understand that we are not talking politics here. We
are talking about  Church issue and when we say church we need to
remember that it is the Bride of Jesus Christ. That is why I asked
you Achen initially whether you are prepared to forego property to
get peace. First of all we should not be having a fight for property
if we truly follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. We are sinners in
the first place and why we want to add more sins to the list. When
you are in that mindset you will be able to understand what MKK achen
is talking about. As a third person I could see that both  you and
MKK achen were talking at different levels. That is why I brought the
example of the boxing ring. You praised MKK achen when he said to
forgo property for peace and you criticized MKK achen when he said
your church is unprincipled.  Anyway let me answer your 16 points.

a) Breach of vow taken before the Holy Trinity. –We are breaching our
vow to God every moment of our life and let us all accept that we all
are sinners. MOSC and its leaders are no exception. However, if you
can be more specific about the incident we can discuss it further.
b) Challenging the authority of the Spiritual head of the church. –
Again Please specify the incident. There is only one ultimate
spiritual head who is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the head and we all are
part of the body. The temporal side of the Church has elevated some
people among us to lead us within certain human made laws and
regulations which is applicable to both father and son. No one
including the Patriarch is exception to that. There is no authority
other than God. He is the Supreme authority. Infallibility of the
Pope is the Roman Churches theory. We dont believe in the
infallibility of either the Patriarch or the Catholicos.
c) Aspiring of all power and authority to oneself. – Again please
specify the incident. If it is with reference to the Catholicate
establishment – this was accepted by the Patriarch in 1958 and there
is no reversal to it as confirmed by the top most court in India.
d) Disregarding co trustees and co bishops – Please be specific. I
have no clue what Achen you are talking about.
e) Conspiring with deposed Patriarch – The un-deposed Patriarch
accepted it in 1958. Also, the Supreme court of India has made it
amply clear in all its verdict that the transfer of the Catholicate
was perfectly legal.
f) Uncanonical claims of establishment/ transfer of ecclesiastical
offices.- If it was wrong why was it accepted in 1958 and continued
till 2002. Loosing a court case with re-imbursement of the Other
partys legal cost is the waterloo for the looser. Your church should
have separated at that time instead of clinging on and waiting for
opportunity.
g) Prompting dissension and factionalism in the Church.- Achen,
Dissensions are not new to church. It is a never ending process so
long as the God's creation has the freedom of choice. The civilized
way of handling dispute is to call everyone and arrive at a decision
by raising hands. Is it not the way the first dissension in the
church in AD 325 was dealt with?? The people who were in minority
went in to oblivion. They did not take out a procession to capture
properties. Did the Arians took out a procession to capture Churches
when their motion failed ?? And if it never ends in a friendly manner
the next course of action is the legal way; that is what I say the
law of man. We had situations in the past where the Mar Thoma church
seperated, Malankara rite seperated. Evangelical church seperated
from the Mar Thoma Church. We have a practice and precedence in place
and seperation of the Jacobite church is nothing new. We need not
invent the wheel. Stop trying to change the shape of the wheel which
is already invented and is working.
h) Claims of equality of the Catholicate to the Patriarchate. –  This
is a dispute since the establishment of the Catholicate in Persia. It
is not an invention of we Indians. Many Orthodox churches were in
the same situation and they all settled their disputes amicably
because they were civilized  people.
i) Claims of autocephaly negating the oneness of the Syrian Church.-
Achen, which creed you usually recite ?? It is the " One Holy
Catholic and Apostolic Church". I did not hear any " One Syrian" in
it.  Which Nicea Synod has approved it ?? If the church is one and
universal why there are different churches in the name of the Apostle
St. Peter. Which one  is original ?? The  one  in Rome or the one  in
Antioch.  Achen, I hope you understand that Orthodox church has a
different system than Roman Catholics. If you believe in the one
universal church and one throne theory and the supremacy of St.
Peter, why did we together fought with the invaders at Coonen Cross.
We should have joined the Menezez group and made one church under the
Pope. This is not our tradition.
j) Unhistoric claims of the St.Thomas throne. – I agree.  There is no
throne for any one anywhere in this world. Neither  St. Peter nor
St. Thomas had thrones in this world. They lived as poor crusaders on
this earth and their followers are now  fighting in the name of
thrones made by them. Thrones are in heaven. Not on earth. Those who
are creating thrones on earth are creating it for themselves.
k) Starting of litigation against parish churches and its members. –
Alternative was to fight on the street like street dogs.
l) Claiming of parish properties – Parish property belong to the
Parish. It was not a claim for parish properties it was a claim for
who is supposed to administer it. In fact the whole dispute started
in  1912 because the then Patriarch wanted all properties in India in
his holy name.
m) Seeking Police force to evict parish members from their church
properties. – Again,  property doesn't belong to Malankara
Metropolitan or even to parish members. It belong to the Parish
corporation or society which is administered by a set of rules. Achen
you know that when you own a property  you can do what you want with
it. But, as soon as you make an association  and buy a property in
the name of that association or corporation the rule changes. The
rules now applied is the Articles of Incorportion of the
Corporation; not the rules applied to you as a person.  I don't know
why your people cannot understand this simple principle. Many
churches in the old days were not having the Articles of
Incorporation . Therefore, all of them together made this
Constitution in 1934 which is called UPR or Uniform Parish Regulation
in the West. It is exactly similar to the constitution made  by India
in 1947. For those who accepted the constitution and agreed to move
together as one entity as the Republic of India, it is a one way
street. No return from that agreement. The only provision provided
for return is to change the constitution with a two third majority to
incorporate return and then move out. The same is provided in our
1934 too. It can be changed with a two third majority. Make a two
third majority in the MOSC Association and change the rule as you
want. That is the civilized way of doing things.
n)Denying formal burial to church members. – Some people have a habit
of bargaining with dead body. May be that is why it was denied. Some
Priests and Bishops have a habit of coming in churches and sitting
dharnas. Coming in to church in fancy dress. Entering through the
roof.  That is why Bishops and priests are not allowed.
o)Resorting to manhandling at various levels.- Well you should say
this Achen. This is what your new comrades, the communists have
taught you. Do it and complain that others did it.
p) Trivandrum episode is only the latest one. – Why should it affect
you AChen?? It was between us and the Kerala Government. We did not
take a procession to your church or any disputed church. What is your
problem with we taking a procession to the Secretariate ??

Well, it has become a very long post already. I will reply to the
other points in my next mail.

Rgds
Ronnie Daniel
Toronto, Canada

Dear Cor Episcopo Achen,

Achen, I agree that I have a habit of deviating from the subject
quite often. I will try to stick to the subject in future. Now to the
reasons why I painted you as a gossip promoter.
Take for example the Trivandrum incident. Every story has two
sides.   There are hundreds of media publications in Kerala. Each one
has made different stories about the Trivandrum incident. My
complaint against VS was  picking  up all yellow journal stories from
everywhere and consolidating  it and presenting to an opposing
audience. Then you brought up that Madhyamam story from Babu Paul.
Did MKK achen do it to you when  there was a police beating on your
people ??  Of course Achen there is no harm in doing it and making
others aware of  the other side of the story.  But, please do not do
it from the title of Moolel Cor Epi Scopa.


We enjoyed when your priests were beaten and you enjoyed when our
priests were beaten. But, we both don't know that it was Christ who
was beaten up at both places. Kalakaumudi brought up a story with a
heading " Konthayum, Kurishum, Kashum".  What a twist of  facts. They
don't know that Orthodox people are not using  " Kontha".  They  just
used the opportunity to tarnish all Christians. Because that is their
agenda.  The Marxists are courting your Bishops these days.  Their
intention is to take control of of our churches  like the Dewassom
Board so that their cronies can benefit from it.  We are going to
them like flies attracted by fire. The politicians are going to kill
all of us Achen and I hope that our Bishops will realize it sooner
rather than later.

Achen, I hope that you will agree that it is a shame these days in
Kerala to say we are Christians. That is the level which MKK achen
said we should not go to. Unfortunately your church happened to be in
the forefront making new history in Kerala.  Now your leader is
saying that MOSC is the breakaway faction.  This is the  coaching
your leaders received from their new communist comrades.  The
communist strategy for achieving equality  in Kerala is to take from
the rich and give to the poor and make the rich also poor. "Attimary
and vetti nirathu"  are their master plan and  it is a pity that your
leaders are coached by them.  Your favorite son Babu Paul himself has
mentioned that he had faced " Vetti Narathu". What more proof you
need.
If the leaders run after politicians for their personal gains,  our
people will not listen to cross and peace any more. This is the
tragedy of this ongoing fight. Last week I heard from you similar
language like Goat or Dog or something like that.  That is the pure
marxist VS Achunanadan politician language and that is the kind of
language unfortunately appeared in  VS many many times. Both VS are
in the same platform. In fact your VS is done by the communsit VS.
We all should be concerned about lowering ourselves to this level. WE
have to stop this culture of taking our Bishops to the street. I
wonder Achen what pleasure we get by reproducing the stories which
are disgraceful to Christianity.

Achen, you said about thinking about rational level. Please explain
this further. I think you are talking about dividing property
according to majority. Well, it is a good idea if the properties are
personal in nature. I have explained it in detail in my first message
to you Achen. We have seen property disputes in families which are
resolved by majority decision. Private property is not taken over by
receiver unless  it is a bankruptcy.  But, in the case of a public
property the receiver take charge if there is a dispute and then the
court will decide who it should be given to.

About  the  SC judgment you exactly know why it was not implemented.
We had thieves in our boat. But, I think it is slowly changing and
you will soon see the result. And we know that it is the reason for
your current desperation.
I am not boasting about Kathiparathadom judgment, the judge there
found a contradiction in the previous SC majority verdict. In fact
our those expensive lawyers together with the thieves on our boat did
not do anything about it.  Everything you need to know about our
Church history is in the kathiparathadom judgment which is a detailed
analysis of all the past judgement and at last " There ought to be a
finality".

Quote
11.No doubt, in paragraph 141 of the judgment of B.P.Jeevan Reddy
speaking for the Two judges majority, it is observed that a
declaration regarding control over temporal affairs of or title to or
control over the properties of the parish churches could be obtained
only after hearing the parish churches and in the presence of the
concerned parish churches each of which has its own constitution. But
the above observation runs counter to the conclusions of the two
judges majority in paragraph 142 sub-para 8 wherein it is held that
the 1934 Constitution also governs the affairs of the parish Churches
and shall prevail. When the fact remains that the Parish Churches
have suffered the dismissal of their impleading petitions in the
above representative suit, the mere circumstance that the decision in
that suit was rendered without the Patriarch churches on the party
array will not prevent the decision from operating against them and
binding them as well. The provisions contained in Order 1 Rule 8
C.P.C. constitute an exception to the general rule that all persons
interested in a suit or proceeding should be joined as parties to
such suit or proceeding because, .without their junction the points
arising in such suit or proceeding cannot be finally adjudicated
upon. The
object for which this provision has been enacted is to facilitate a
decision, without recourse to the ordinary procedure, on questions in
which a large number of persons are interested. The provision must,
therefore, receive an interpretation which will
subserve its object.{Vide - The Chairman, Tamilnadu Housing Board,
Madras v. T.N.. Ganapathv - 1990 (1) scc 608}. Admittedly the
litigation in P.M.A. Metropolitan's case was between the very same
warring factions and the Apex Court held in no unmistakable terms
that the Patriarch of Antioch having accepted the validity of the
revival of the Catholicos, members of the Patriarch group were not
entitled to question the authority of the Catholicos or the 1934
Constitution. Thus the petitioners in W.P.C. 32114/06 who represent
the Patriarch faction cannot claim that the church which is a member
of the Malankara
association is not liable to be governed by the 1934 Constitution or
that the Patriarch of Antioch continues to have supremacy over the
church in preference to the Catholicos. It is also admitted by both
sides that a similar view taken by this Court in respect of another
Malankara Church, namely, the St. Johns Jacobite Syrian Church,
Kanniyattunirappu in W.P.(c) 3497/05 and R.P. 956/05 in W.P. (C)
3497/05 was refused to be interfered with by the Apex Court which
dismissed the SLPs preferred against the judgment of this Court.
After the decision of the Supreme Court in P.M.A. Metropolitanls case
rendered in a representative action, no court can allow the very same
issues to be re-agitated. There has to be a quietus in this matter.
Even after the authoritative pronouncement of the Apex Court in
P.M.A. Metropolitan?s case, the State of Kerala has been witnessing
very ugly scenes of violence and unrest on the assumed belief
(presumably spread by certain vested interests) that the aforesaid
issues are still at large notwithstanding the verdict by the highest
Court of the nation. Just as political issues should find solution
from the political leaders, religious issues should primarily get
settled at the intervention of religious leaders. But,once the issues
have been dragged to the Court whose jurisdiction under Sec. 9
C.P .C. is all pervading, there ought to be a finality. This is
particularly so when the litigation before the civil court which
culminated in P.M.A. Metropolitan's Case, was a representative action.
Unquote

WE jsut need to cut and paste in SC to bring this case to a finality.
Achen, one thing you need to understand is that any real difference
between the two churches will become really effective after 2002 when
you decided to have your own Association.  Before that you were a
faction still having the participation in the MOSC Association and
taken oath on the 1934 constitution and filed affidavit in the court
saying so and now you will not be able to turn back unfortunately.
The  SC verdict saying there is only one MOSC, one Patriarch, one
Catholicos is as good as a patent for the Malankara church. We could
in future perhaps file a claim on any  property acquired in India in
the above names. Therefore, I would suggest that you call a Mafrian a
Mafrian than calling him a Catholicos. If Mafrian and Catholicos are
the same why the Persian Catholicate was demoted to a Mafrianate ??

Rgds
Ronnie Daniel
Toronto, Canada