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It was interesting to see the article of almayavedi
advocating unity.From the article I understand that
majority of the bishops,priests and laity of the
patriarch faction is for the unity between the two
churches. great to know that.
I would like add to some points about the problems in
1. Please go through the following data which gives an
idea how IOC appoints a bishop to Northern diocesses.
Metropolitan Dioceses Originally from
1.HG Mor severious Knadanad west Vazhoor --Kottayam
2. HG Mor Clemis Sultan Bathery Pndalam
3.HG Mor Theophilos Malabar Tiruvalla - ( and was in
HG Mor pachomius was the Metropolitan of Angamaly and
he is from Perinad (Ranny) ashramam
So whenever IOC needs a bishop in the north somebody
will go from south. Because of their contacts in the
south they have to
spend most of the time in south itself. So most of
the time the metropolitan has to depends on some body
else and these people
become very powerfull . This we saw in Angamaly
diocesese when HG Mor pachomius was the Metropolitan.
In the Malankara Association , southern diocesses are
very strong and they decide who should be elected.
Mostly the candidates from south gets
the support from the senior Metropolitans also. Fr.
Dr. Johns Abraham Konatt is a faculty in MD seminary
and very much popular in South. So he could manage
majority of votes . But for others it will not be
2. See the list of the nominated members to the
managing committee. Just count the numbers from each
dioceses. You can see majority are
from south especially from Kottayam. Some of the
diocesse has not been considered also. What may be the
Every body knows the Catholicate designate has a big
hand in the selection of Nominated members . I dont
think the list is a fair one. See one samples
Rt. rev P. C. Yohannan Ramban- Very much powerfull
than any bishops in Malankara. Close to Devalokam and
right hand of UDF leader Oommen Chandy. 3-4 years back
he wrote an article in Malayala Manorama daily against
HG Dr. Youhanon Mor Militose. It was a half page
report.Manorama gave much importance because of the
realtion ship. I read the article and understood with
pain that a bishop has been ridiculed
by a member of clergy in public. Nobody asked any
thing to the Rambachen. Now this Rambachen has been
Some other names included in the list also will make
3. In prev. digest , Dr. Vinu suggested that the
charge of Angamaly diocesse should be given to HG Dr.
Thomas Mor Athanasius of Kandanad West.
I am sure Athanasius thirumeni will not take a risk
because he is very much aware about what happend to
Militose Thirumeni in Diocese as well as in Holly
4. In the digest no.2758 of ICON Mr. Thomas P in his
reply to Dr. Vinu mentioned that Yakuburdana bawa
ordaing bishops to speed up the split in church.
Yes most of the newly ordained bishops are like
Kozhiparampil Athanasius Metropolitan. But some silver
lines are there like
HG Dr. Geevarghese mor Cooriloose and HG Dr.
Kuriakkose Mor Theophilose. Coorilose thirumeni
recently translated Vattaseril thirumenis one book in
and very much close to Dalit Movements. Few months
back one famous weekly in malyalam wrote a cover story
(Malyalam weekly from Indian express group).
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Fr. Alvares was the Catholic priest who in 1887 left Goa and Ceylon and
joined the Malankara Syrian church. Parumala Mar Gregorios Metropolitan
ordained him as Ramban. On 29 July 1889 at the Old Seminary Kottayam,
he was elevated as Metropolitan Alvares Mar Julius. This staunch
freedom fighter of Goa and watch guard of the Church held on Zealously
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Holy Synod of MJSCC Starts Today - Patriarch May Visit India Next
The Holy Synod of Malankara Jacobite Syrian Christian Church will
start today (Monday, 21st May) at the Church Head Quarters at
Purthencruz Patriarchal Centre and will last until 23rd May 2007.
Secretary of the Holy Synod H.E Dr. Joseph Mor Gregorios informed in
a press release that the annual retreat for the metropolitans also
will be held during the days of Holy Synod meeting.
The Holy Synod will consider the formation of new dioceses,
especially about Kozhikode, Idukki, Outside Kerala and Greater India
The Patriarch of Antioch & All the East H.H. Moran Mor Ignatius
Zakka I Iwas may be visiting India by October next year, it was
revealed by the Catholicose H.B. Aboon Mor Baselius Thomas I, after
his meeting with the Patriarch at Damscus, Syria.
"We are arranging a one month programme for October next year, which
includes Bishops Ordination, Mooron Koodasa, Church consecration and
Association meeting", the spokesman for the Catholicos informed.
"The Patriarch desires to settle the problems of Malankara Church
here itself", informed the Holy Synod secretary H.E Dr. Joseph Mor
The Catholicos and the accompanying delegation returned on Saturday,
after meeting the Patriarch at Damascus.
SOCM News Bureau - Kochi.
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As per the latest Almaya vedhi Bullettin, Fr.
Dr. M.O. John was trying to get a seat 'Working
committee' . I really surprise that why he could not
manage it ? See Fr. John was a faculty in the
seminary. As per my knowledge he could create his own
group in seminary and was strongly against Fr. Dr. K.
M. George and Fr. T.J. Joshua (Both are very
respectfull personalities inside and outside the
church). Same time he started a publication '
Malanakara Sabha Deepam'. He use it as his weopen
against the personalities he does not like.'Deepam'
is not an official publication of IOC . But it has a
good circulation . How he managed it ? Many of the
members of clergy are working as circulation anagers.
When members of clergy approch the laymen to take the
subscription usually they accept it. But I strongly
believe he gets fund from outside to run this
periodical. He gets good supports from South Africa,
Vienna and some other Europian regions. Otherwise
it is difficult. Its internet edition is absolutely
free of charge. Its colour was too yellow. But see now
the colour is changing slowly. When he contested for
the bishop post his publication helped him to manage
majority of votes from 'Almayar'. He has regular
writers for his Deepam . He supports who ever he wants
and ridicules who ever he does not like.Our beloved HH
Mathews II bawa thirumeni was a victim Any way he
expelled from seminary because of his 'active' work
As I mentioned earlier he led a 'cocus' in old
seminary and got support from some of the other
faculties especially from a senior member who reached
to top rank of the administration. In the same time
some thing was happening in Angamaly diocese. HH
Mathews II bawa thirumeni took strong decissions and
you all aware of these things. But in the initial days
of HH Didimos I Bawa Thirumeni , Fr. Jonh moved to
Angamaly diocese as the vicar of one church . Then
slowly moved to Trikkunathu Seminary and now the full
incharge of it. Without a 'GOD FATHER' how he could
manage it ?
We all know that he is preist in Ankamaly diocese. He
could not manage his berth in Managing committee from
there. He has been selected (NOMIANTED ???) form
UK-CANADA diocesse. Is it possible for others ? I dont
know the rules and regulations regarding this but for
him it is easy because of his 'GOD FATHER'.
As a member of clergy , how he could edit a yellow
periodical ? The answer is easy . ' God Fafther ' .
If you have a Godfather and he strong enough then you
could manage to do all these things ?
Ninety percentage I believe that he will appear as a
metropolitan candidate . Will he be a nominated
candiadte of Holy Synod ? It is a million dollar
question. Wait and see
PS : Every body is well aware of the role of our old
seminary. Most of the people in our church respects
and love Fr. Dr. KM George and Fr. TJ Joshua. And
George Achen is an outstanding personality and he is
the IOCs repesentation to intellectual patforms. But
3-4 years back there was an article in 'KERALA SABDAM'
(Sorry I could not remember the date) against our
seminary and especially Georgeachen. Strong
allegations were there against achen. But every body
who knows it was a ' manipulated' one . But whose
brain was behind it ?
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U r explained the real situation of angamali now.
only god can do some thing there. we can pray for that. No good or
dedicated leaders for us. No vision at all. No dream at all from the
bishops or priests side. We got lot of good orders from different
court. No machinery for doing to impliment that. No bisop for us to
take in care for that. No legal cell. Lot of valuable records in
aluva seminari. We dont know to utalise it.
We have leaders what u tell in this. They look after their own
business. We dont have a good church lover bishop like vattassery
Now our situation is very very bad. No body to help us. No political
or social leader to help us.
There is a small grop of people working for our church in angamali.
right now they will not get any good support from kottayam. Everybody
know our bavas situation. He is not well do all these. Instead of him
two three secretary hadling all these with their own interest. They
have their own interst with the angamali. If they actually like our
church they can do better better things now. I can suggest lot of
thins needed for angamali.
1 Appoint H G Youhanan Mar Milithious as Metrapolitha
2 Change Rev Fr M O JOhn from that position. He is not a good leader
for doing any thing in church. That he proved in Kottyam Seminari and
thrikkunneth seminari on Jan26.
3 Impliment different court ordes through a good legal sell.
4 Co Ordinate all people through good leadership.
5 Active functioning of youth movement.
6 Ordinate 15 new priests. Now shortage is there.
7 Give suit against all churches which is not supporting us.
8 Give first priority to the case.
9 Support all churches what ever they required.
10 Make sure that to get at least 100 people when ever reqd.
The above all we can done through only a good visionalbel leadership
We can pray for that
--- In MORM@..., "joicethottackad"
> Election of office bearers to key positions of Malankara Sabha
> association has been done.
> Can we begin to expect some visionary changes beginning to take
> in the Church especially beginning with Angamaly Diocese. This most
> crucial Diocese which is facing extreme challenges is pathetically
> left without a full time Bishop.
> HH of Blessed memory Mathews II Bawa had extreme concern and an
> outgoing love for Northern Dioceses where the Church has been facing
> extreme challenges. HH once cut short his visit abroad when
> Varghese was martyred and made it a point to visit his family very
> often. I understand that his family is now left in the lurch.
> Recently I read in the news media that a group of Orthodox Vishwasa
> samrakshana samithi members from a Church in Kottapady near
> Kothamangalam en masse joined the dissidents in the presence of
> Shresta Catholicose Thomas I. I do not know if it is 'stage
> However, if the Church is really serious to face these emerging
> challenges the leadership should begin taking concrete steps in this
> direction. This should be done taking into confidence the honourable
> Bishops from these dioceses and not by hoisting Bishops or Priests
> are less accepted or less influential with lay faithful in these
> I would have been very happy and it would have been a blessed step
> Niyuktha Bawa HG Paulose Mor Milithiose had visited Muvattupuzha
> Aramana of the Bishop of Kandanadu East Diocese, which is my parent
> diocese, and shown solidarity with him and encouraged him after the
> Kathiparathadom judgement was pronounced in Malankara Orthodox
> Church's favour. This is inspite of the fact that HG visited that
> few times after that. HH Didimos I Bawa had the extreme courtesy to
> that when Church faced some challenges there, soon after taking over
> as Catholicose. HH 's health does not however permit to travel
> HG Dr.Yuhanon Mor Milithiose would have been the right choice as
> Bishop and if HG has become unacceptable to a certain selfish
> interests can't the mantle of Bishop be given to HG Dr.Thomas Mor
> Athanasius of Kandanad East Diocese if HG agrees. I do not think
> anyone in Angamaly Diocese really has anything against HG. A local
> Bishop has better familiarity and access to local officials,
> leaders and local politicians and can be more effective in
> Thrikkunnathu Seminary like incidents.
> Our Church seem to be loosing its vision as a whole and
> attitude' and many of the Bishops, who seem to matter, appears to be
> only interested in having their own projects and confine themselves
> their Dioceses. A Church hierarchy that embodies the wisdom and
> encompassing love of late Mathews II Bawa Thirumeni seem to be
> I 'really miss' someone like HH of Blessed memory Mathews II Bawa in
> his healthy days as the Head of our Church. HH had a real broad
> for the Church and had very really taken into heart the pulse of
> feelings and concerns of believers from Northern Dioceses.
> May the good Lord sent His pervading Spirit into the leadership of
> Church so that the more privileged and well positioned section of
> hierarchy do not fail to foget to lift up the less placed and more
> challenged who had placed confidence and trust in HH late Mathews II
> Bawa Thirumeni of Blessed memory who had tirelessly and endearingly
> worked for Church unity.
> Dr.Vinu Thomas, Dubai
> (From ICON Forum)
Fr. Dr. O. Thomas resigned from Managing Committee...
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The three-days Episcopal Holy Synod of MJSCC concluded on Wednesday,
23rd May 2007.
The Jacobite Church Episcopal Synod yesterday welcomed the mediation
efforts of Rev. Dr. Samuel Kobia, the General Secretary of World
Council of Churches, in the Malankara Church dispute. It also
welcomed the peace initiatives of the Kerala Government and hoped
for a just solution to the century old dispute through peaceful
The Holy Episcopal Synod authorized a sub-committee comprising its
Secretary H.E. Joseph Mor Gregorios, H.E. Thomas Mor Themotheos, H.
E. Mathews Mor Ivanios , Church Lay Secretary Thambu George Thukalan
and Lay Trustee George Mathew Thekkethalakkal, for conducting
necessary negotiations, whenever it is required.
The Holy Synod also took the following decisions:
1- Each and every parish should keep aside 10% of its income for
2- A sub-committee is formed to implement uniformity in the
liturgies in the Church.
3- A commission is formed to study and report its recommendations
for the formation of Idukki diocese.
4- H. E. Dr. Joseph Mor Gregorios is re-selected as the Holy
Episcopal Synod Secretary.
5- To make necessary arrangements for the proposed visit of H.H.
Moran Mor Ignatius Zakka I Iwas, Patriarch of Antioch & All the East
in 2008, and to conduct the Golden Jubilee of priesthood of the
Catholicose H.B. Aboon Mor Baselius Thomas I, during HH's visit.
The three-days Episcopal Synod and Metropolitan retreat conducted at
Puthencruz Patriarchal Centre, concluded on Wednesday, 23rd May.
Seventeen Metropolitans of the Jacobite Church participated in the
SOCM News Bureau - Kochi
Dr. Fr. M.O. John is good in writing and public stage and a part of the
public felt that Achen is capable to lead a diocese. But the Bishops
of the MOSC, the majority of the Priests who are contemporaries of
Achen,the Orthodox believers who are actievely participating in church
matters and Fr. M.O. John himself knows that he is not enough to become
a Bishop of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church.
We already experienced the after effect of the Thrikunnathu seminary
within a short period after he took the charge of the seminary. I am
humbly requisting to John Achen please do not try to contest for the
post of a Bishop of the MOSC one more time as it may loose the
popularity. People are not tolerated to keep quite while watching the
games of the street politics in church.
Charly V. Padanilam, Texas.
Fr. Dr. O. Thomas resigned from the Managing
Committee (See the report in M TV &
Mangalam daily dated 25th May 2007 ) .
It is a calculated move and drama. We all know that
Fr. Thomas lost in the last election and then
nominated to managing committe. See he is not an
elected member but a nominated member.Nomination has
been done by HH Didimos Bawa Thirumeni. Actually Bawa
thirumeni is taking rest and his private secratary Fr.
Sabu Kuriakkose played a big role in the
nominations.It is crystal clear that Fr. Thomas gave
his conscent to the post. Then why he gave the
resignation later ?
If you go through the nomination list you can find
another name Fr. T. C. John. Both Fr. John and Fr. O.
Thomas are from same place cheppad and both are
members of same parish( St. George valiapallyy
Cheppad). There are two groups in Mavelikkara
diocese. One Groups HQ is Haripad Mission Center. This
group was against the formation of mavelikkara
diocese. Both Fr. Thomas and Fr. John are very much
active with Haripad mission center.Both got berth in
MC as nominated members. It is very much surprising
.At least we can say that Fr. Thomas is the prev.
trustee and a senior faculty in Old Seminary. He is
good in writing and good in platforms. But how Fr. TC
John managed it ? Who helped ? Is there any criteria
to nominate somebody to Managing comittee ?? As an
ordinary almayan I want dedicated, god fearing
personalities come to the managing comittee.
Especially when we nominate some body the criteria
should be tough and the process should not be done
through back doors.
Fr. Thomas resigned from the Manging committe. But
people are there to represnt Fr. Thomas in Managing
Similarly another 'faction leader' Rt. Rev. P.C
Yohannon Rambachan also found berth in Managing
committe as a ' nominated member.' Another member of
clergy is playing all his dirty politicks to become
the member of Holy synod. Now he is belongs to
Angamaly diocese but elected to MC ( Nominated ???)
from UK- CANADA.
It is sad to know that Fr. Dr. Mathew Baby has been
Please remember that in the old days of Late HH
Mathews Bawa Thirumeni, so many people critisized him
. Now are you happy with the things happening in our
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In kalpetta at least, both churches are united in grief. Please look
up the new indian express report.