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Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Which is the best SH story?

Errata to previous post :)

> The second type is where Holmes is already on to something and
> Watson (and hence the reader) is involved in it halfway (Milverton,
> , either very much towards the conclusion of it ("The Dying Detective",
> "The Mazarin Stone" , "Empty House" etc). Personally, I do not have
> much affinity towards them since the reader is not present the final
> bits of the case and is not fully involved in the unraveling of it.

Read as...

" The second type is where Holmes is already on to something and
Watson (and hence the reader) is involved in it either halfway (Milverton)
or very much towards the conclusion of it ("The Dying Detective",
"The Mazarin Stone" , "Empty House" etc). Personally, I do not have
much affinity towards them since the reader is presented only the final
bits of the case and is not fully involved in the unraveling of it."

--Anand

On Dec 4, 2007 3:41 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@...> wrote:
> Doyle has used several approaches in presenting a story to the reader.
>
> The most common one is where Holmes and Watson are in it from
> beginning to end, along with the reader also, from the point the adventure
> is defined (which typically involves narration by the client) to the point
> where it is solved (or not). These kind of stories are the best of breed of
> the canon according to me. Examples - All the four novels, the Speckled Band,
> the Dancing Men...
>
> The second type is where Holmes is already on to something and
> Watson (and hence the reader) is involved in it halfway (Milverton,
> , either very much towards the conclusion of it ("The Dying Detective",
> "The Mazarin Stone" , "Empty House" etc). Personally, I do not have
> much affinity towards them since the reader is not present the final
> bits of the case and is not fully involved in the unraveling of it.
>
> The third type is where Holmes and/or Watson do not have a lot to do
> and come right at the fag end of a case. They typically have a lot of
flashback
> (Veiled Lodger, Red Circle) which culminates in a final scene involving
> some quick action, but not much deduction.
>
> The fourth type are historical recounts of Holmes, either presented to
> Watson as the listener ("Gloria Scott", "Musgrave Ritual" etc) or directly
> to the reader in first person (There is only one such as far as I can
> recall - the Lion's Mane). Though they do not occur in the present tense
> of the story, they still are good enough to capture the attention of the
reader,
> since the story is almost presented like it is unraveling in the
> present ("Gloria
> Scott" is the best example).
>
> And of course, "Final Problem" is in a league of its own, since it does not
> fall in any of these broad categories since it is almost a biographical story
> of Holmes himself and his battle with Moriarty, as presented by Watson to the
> reader.
>
> I have found that of these, the most brilliant and best stories are those in
> which Watson is very much involved, either in a lot of the investigation
itself,
> or right from the beginning of the puzzle. I guess this is a psychological
> thing, since the readers experience the story vicariously through Watson
> and sometimes identify themselves with him. The ones in which Watson
> is either last into the game or is not present at all are the most dull.
>
> There are also those stories which promise a lot either with their title
> or their initial presentation but fails to live up to it at the end. I would
add
> "Sussex Vampire", "Copper Beeches" etc to it.
>
> Of course, this is not the only factor in trying to find out which is the best
> story in the canon, but one of the most important ones, I feel. And the
> best story is going to vary with reader perception and personal choice.
> For example, the brilliance in detection demonstrated by Holmes is a
> very important factor.
>
> Thus according to me the best stories would be "The Hound", "The Sign of
Four",
> "Speckled Band", "Dancing Men", "Silver Blaze", "Bruce Partington Plans" and
> "Lady Frances Carfax".
>
> Also worth mentioning are "Golden Pince-Nez" (demonstrating brilliant
reasoning
> and very effective use of cigar ash) , "Beryl Coronet" , "Resident Patient",
> "Thor Bridge" (My list seems to be growing more than what I initially
> had in mind...!)
>
> By the same measure, according to me the most dull ones are "Crooked Man",
> "Mazarin Stone", "Blue Carbuncle", "Three Gables", "Yellow Face", "Missing
> three quarter", "Engineer's Thumb", "Wisteria Lodge", "Stockbroker's Clerk"
etc.
>
> --Anand
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 8:17 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> > Dear Holmesians,
> > What about The adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton?
> > Sumalsn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
> >
> >
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>
>
> --
> -Anand
>



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-Anand



Tue Dec 4, 2007 10:17 am

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Dear Holmesians, Which is the story in the Canon you consider the best in terms of its plotting, description and end? Give your reasons too Sumalsn...
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My vote is with the author's first choice: Speckled band. Nikhil ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Not in the top league but the interesting angle on The Adventure of the Greek Interpreter is how nearly redundant Sherlock Holmes is, in this story. The ending...
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Dear Holmesians, What about The adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton? Sumalsn...
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Doyle has used several approaches in presenting a story to the reader. The most common one is where Holmes and Watson are in it from beginning to end, along...
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Errata to previous post :) ... Read as... " The second type is where Holmes is already on to something and Watson (and hence the reader) is involved in it...
Anand Balachandran Pi...
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Dear Anand and Holmesians, Great analysis of the Canon.I agree with you completely. Sumalsn...
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Accordinto me the sign of four is the best story...
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Hello Friends, According to me, the best SH story is 'The Valley of Death' ...it have great story and one of suspense, thrilling experience i ever had while...
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