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Re: Window thingy

>It sure does give a sort of heightened Gothic effect to the
narrative.

It's called the "pathetic fallacy". It's also stormy outside in the
Valley of Fear when McMurder is murdod and the Holmes & co get the
news.
The Sam Gamgee example is interesting, because you have Frodo and
Gandalf discussing Fell Deeds, to the counterpoint of a peaceful,
pastoral activity: Sam shearing the hedge. [or rather, NOT clipping
the hedge :-)]

> As regards the "glance out of the window," there never is a Sam
Gamgee...in short, a case.

True, it is a standard device ACD uses to introduce a case. [a man's
gotta start from somewhere] Still, it might be interesting to track
the ways in which the "scene is set" in the Canon. Oh what the Phil,
I'll just do it myself and post the results.

nb: Phil, ruler of Heck, a hell for minor offenders.




Tue Jun 8, 2004 3:20 am

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Hi, It has been interesting to see a few messages on our anniversary by the usual suspects . Welcome to the new entrants, Sridhar, hope to hear from you on the...
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Hi, Satyajit Ray says there are only about 56 (or some such) basic plots that all writers of detective fiction play around with. Two of his adventures, The...
sridhar C
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Jun 7, 2004
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... latter?!! Many, many stories in the Canon begin with an observation of conditions/ a person outside. Recall that in a Study in Scarlet, Holmes explains his...
rishiiyengar
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Hi, It's true what Rishi says about weather conditions presaging dark events. It sure does give a sort of heightened Gothic effect to the narrative. It's rare...
sridhar C
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Jun 8, 2004
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... narrative. It's called the "pathetic fallacy". It's also stormy outside in the Valley of Fear when McMurder is murdod and the Holmes & co get the news. The...
rishiiyengar
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Jun 8, 2004
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My Lancelyn Greene has a story by ACD, written for the Ediburgh University's magazine The Student. The story is called "How Watson learned the trick". It isn't...
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Jun 12, 2004
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Yes, I have read the story. It's quite amusing. I believe it was written for Queen Mary, wife of King George V. When the Queen's Doll House was created in...
manraviel
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Jun 12, 2004
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... When the Queen's Doll House was created in 1923, Actually, there are *two* stories, one called the "field Bazaar", which I was talking about, and the...
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Jun 12, 2004
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Dear all, I think Agatha Christie' s Hercule Poirot was a tribute to Holmes. What say you? sumal...
sumalsn
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Jun 10, 2004
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To: Mr. Sumal, Sir, No, I do not think that Agatha Christie had created her immortal sleuth as a tribute to Holmes. As far as the related documents are...
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Jun 10, 2004
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A PhD on Holmes! Fascinating. I'd be very interested if you could tell us the topic of your thesis. Was actually planning to post on ACD and spiritualism, but...
rishiiyengar
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Jun 10, 2004
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Yes, I agree with you Pinaki when you say that Poirot is styled more on Dupin rather than Holmes. I believe their similarities go only as far as their having a...
manraviel
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Jun 10, 2004
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I'm sorry I haven't been here for a while. Seems that there's a lot going on. I don't think Poirot was a tribute to Holmes. I've always felt as if he was more...
manraviel
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Jun 10, 2004
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Re the stress on cleanliness, I feel Poirot is perfectly right in that and that's something I appreciate in him. My own room is generally a mess. I sit down,...
sridhar C
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Jun 11, 2004
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The Belgian, in many ways, is the complete antithesis of the Englishman. Beginning with their demeanor, their mannerisms, their methods of detection, etc.,...
sridhar C
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Jun 11, 2004
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... The breaking into thoughts funda is from Edgar Allan Poe- also explicitly mentioned in the Canon. Watson expresses an admiration for Poe's detective for...
rishiiyengar
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Jun 8, 2004
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Holmes doesn't seem to have much respect for "the Granddaddy of detective fiction's" sleuth, Auguste Dupin, though. :) ... Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try...
sridhar C
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Jun 9, 2004
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... detective fiction's" sleuth, Auguste Dupin, though. :) Yup. In fact, the whole *point* of Holmes' little demonstration was to prove that Dupin's lil' trick...
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A reporter asked Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in 1894 if he had been influenced by the work of Edgar Allen Poe. The creator of Sherlock Holmes replied, “Oh,...
manraviel
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Jun 10, 2004
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... hell-bent on proving to everybody that he did not hold the same opinions as Holmes about the matter. I mean a poem...? And I agree when you said that it...
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Jun 10, 2004
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Sorry Rishi. Got mixed up there. Oh, and yes I would like to read the poem...even if its only for the horror of it. Manraviel ... was ... Dupin....
manraviel
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Jun 10, 2004
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... horror of it. It is actually a very long poem, by a chap called Arthur Guiterman, so I'll just type up the relevant stanzas. Here goes: Holmes is your hero...
rishiiyengar
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Jun 12, 2004
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... That should read CRUDE vanity....
rishiiyengar
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Jeez. ACD should just have sent him a paragraph in retort than making attempts at writing poetry. But I did especially like this stanza by Guiterman. "This,...
manraviel
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Jun 12, 2004
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He KNEW his epic poetry. Was his specialty, in fact. My copy of Humphrey Carpenter has accounts of how beautifully he used to read extracts from the Edda....
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Jun 10, 2004
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I just bought my Humphrey Carpenter. Have yet to read it though. My favourite poem is 'Lay of Nimrodel' by Legolas when the fellowship is just entering Lorien...
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