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Hi Sumal,

The link did not work... do we have any alternate route to reach the desired
site/page.

regards,


Manish Kohli
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: sumalsn
   To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
   Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:03 PM
   Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Homes Restaurant in
Mumbai


   Dear Holmesians,
   We had a discussion on the existence of 221B. Many of us may not be
   able to go there but we can always visit the Sherlock Holmes
   Restaurant in Bombay.
   The link is given below,
   http://hotels.indiantravelportal.com/mytravel/cgi/query.asp?
   cid=3qUHmpg%3D&ft=ihot





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Dear Holmesians and Sri,
  You might recall that we had some interesting discussions on the
Sherlock Holmes Society of Madras, now sadly defunct. I had happened
to find a link to the news story published in Hindu which I had
earlier posated in the society . So for those who had missed it out
the firdt time , here it goes,

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/2001/10/29/stories/13291285.htm.

  I should say that Dr Krishna murthi looks slightly odd wearing the
deerstalker cap , a trench coat and a sandal.
Sumalsn

Dear Holmesians and Tim,
  It would not be as difficult a task as we think it to be. Remember,
HRF Keating had created Inspector Ghote series of books set in Bombay
without ever setting foot in India, what to speak of Bombay.
  I think with the help of a map of a city , it must be fairly possible
to create an impression of being familiar with a city one has never
visited at all.
  Sumalsn

Dear Holmesians,
  We had a discussion on the existence of 221B. Many of us may not be
able to go there but we can always visit the Sherlock Holmes
Restaurant in Bombay.
  The link is given below,
http://hotels.indiantravelportal.com/mytravel/cgi/query.asp?
cid=3qUHmpg%3D&ft=ihot

Dear Holmesians,
  I happened to watch SH on History Channel last tuesday. They were
showing " The Solitary Cyclist". Surprisingly , though the show was
faithful to the text, towards the end of the programme , they showed
SH closing a chest of drawers which had a syringe kept in it. As far
as I remember, SH does not drug himself in that adventure. It must be
a case of artistic liberty taken by the producer. What say you,
Holmesians.
  Sumalsn

Talking about animals, I guess most of them have the "homing instinct",
especially the birds (homing pigeons?!). One sense more than us humans.


   Sridhar

Tim <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
           Yes, it was a really clever piece by ACD for Holmes to call out the
names of
streets despite being in a closed carriage. There have been many examples
of people being kidnapped and either blindfolded or pushed into the
boot/trunk of a car/automobile and later they were able to tell the police
certain things, mostly sounds they had heard during the journey. I have
read that cats taken in the boot/trunk of a car for many miles and released
in terra incognita work their way home - sometimes a year later - because
they have memorised the smells.


_____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of jeff
katz
Sent: 13 December 2006 02:13
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: RE: [sherlock holmes society of india] Digest Number 729

quick answer is, he didn't! I think it was Owen Edwards, in his excellent
biography of ACD "The Quest for Sherlock Holmes: A Biographical Study of
Arthur Conan Doyle," who shows that Doyle based his descriptions of London
streets on his memories of Edinburgh.

Holmes shows an excellent sense of location - in "The Sign of Four," while
being driven in a closed carriage to visit the home of Mr Sholto, Holmes is
able to recite the street names as they pass, based on his memory of the
twists and turns.

Best wishes,
Jeff

>__________________________________________________________
>
>1.1. Re: Hi
> Posted by: "Tim" tim.symonds@ <mailto:tim.symonds%40shevolution.com>
shevolution.com
> Date: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:20 pm
>
>
>Just thinking, ACD was not a Londoner and may not have visited London from
>faraway Scotland until he was an adult. How did he set about making sure
>the street directions for Holmes and Watson were correct (assuming they
>were
>correct)? Did Holmes ever refer to a street guide? I believe he referred
>to the famous railway timetables which he had learnt by heart.
>
>

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Yes, it was a really clever piece by ACD for Holmes to call out the names of
streets despite being in a closed carriage.  There have been many examples
of people being kidnapped and either blindfolded or pushed into the
boot/trunk of a car/automobile and later they were able to tell the police
certain things, mostly sounds they had heard during the journey.  I have
read that cats taken in the boot/trunk of a car for many miles and released
in terra incognita work their way home - sometimes a year later - because
they have memorised the smells.


   _____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of jeff
katz
Sent: 13 December 2006 02:13
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: RE: [sherlock holmes society of india] Digest Number 729

quick answer is, he didn't! I think it was Owen Edwards, in his excellent
biography of ACD "The Quest for Sherlock Holmes: A Biographical Study of
Arthur Conan Doyle," who shows that Doyle based his descriptions of London
streets on his memories of Edinburgh.

Holmes shows an excellent sense of location - in "The Sign of Four," while
being driven in a closed carriage to visit the home of Mr Sholto, Holmes is
able to recite the street names as they pass, based on his memory of the
twists and turns.

Best wishes,
Jeff

>__________________________________________________________
>
>1.1. Re: Hi
> Posted by: "Tim" tim.symonds@ <mailto:tim.symonds%40shevolution.com>
shevolution.com
> Date: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:20 pm
>
>
>Just thinking, ACD was not a Londoner and may not have visited London from
>faraway Scotland until he was an adult. How did he set about making sure
>the street directions for Holmes and Watson were correct (assuming they
>were
>correct)? Did Holmes ever refer to a street guide? I believe he referred
>to the famous railway timetables which he had learnt by heart.
>
>

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quick answer is, he didn't! I think it was Owen Edwards, in his excellent
biography of ACD "The Quest for Sherlock Holmes: A Biographical Study of
Arthur Conan Doyle," who shows that Doyle based his descriptions of London
streets on his memories of Edinburgh.

Holmes shows an excellent sense of location - in "The Sign of Four," while
being driven in a closed carriage to visit the home of Mr Sholto, Holmes is
able to recite the street names as they pass, based on his memory of the
twists and turns.

Best wishes,
Jeff

>________________________________________________________________________
>
>1.1. Re: Hi
>     Posted by: "Tim" tim.symonds@...
>     Date: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:20 pm
>
>
>Just thinking, ACD was not a Londoner and may not have visited London from
>faraway Scotland until he was an adult.  How did he set about making sure
>the street directions for Holmes and Watson were correct (assuming they
>were
>correct)?  Did Holmes ever refer to a street guide?  I believe he referred
>to the famous railway timetables which he had learnt by heart.
>
>

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--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@..., "Nikhil Prasad
Ojha" <npojha@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Sherlockians:
>
> As far as I know - and I have only been there once - it was always
a real
> address. I could be mistaken, though. What I do remember thinking
is that
> the memorabilia shop is exactly where Holmes would've had
apprehended
> Colonol Sebastian Moran (the old *shikari* or the second most
dangerous man
> in London) in The Adventure of the Empty House.
>
> best regards,
> Nikhil
>
> On 12/12/06, Vidya Subramanian <subramanianvidya@...> wrote:
> >
> > Really?? 221B DOES NOT exist??? But I was somehow always under the
> > impression that it was a real address..the one that has now been
converted
> > into the museum... And that was what my friend said too...
> >
> > On 12/12/06, Tim <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >   I haven't passed 221b Baker Street recently but there used to
be a
> > shop
> > > right opposite it with all sorts of Sherlock
Holmes' 'memorabilia' for
> > > sale
> > > - deer-stalkers for example.
> > > The front of 221b Baker Street is unexceptional to the eye and
I often
> > > found
> > > people from overseas staring at their maps in the vicinity,
trying to
> > > figure
> > > out just where the building is. 221b of course was a number
that did not
> > > exist.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> > Vidya.
> >
> >
221 Baker st is currently a building site - part of Abbey National -
wether there was a 'B' i'll try and find out - the Sherlock Holmes
Museum is a few doors away -the memorabilia shop opposite has just
closed down -

tony (in London)

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Dear Sherlockians:

As far as I know - and I have only been there once - it was always a real
address. I could be mistaken, though. What I do remember thinking is that
the memorabilia shop is exactly where Holmes would've had apprehended
Colonol Sebastian Moran (the old *shikari* or the second most dangerous man
in London) in The Adventure of the Empty House.

best regards,
Nikhil

On 12/12/06, Vidya Subramanian <subramanianvidya@...> wrote:
>
> Really?? 221B DOES NOT exist??? But I was somehow always under the
> impression that it was a real address..the one that has now been converted
> into the museum... And that was what my friend said too...
>
> On 12/12/06, Tim <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
> >
> >   I haven't passed 221b Baker Street recently but there used to be a
> shop
> > right opposite it with all sorts of Sherlock Holmes' 'memorabilia' for
> > sale
> > - deer-stalkers for example.
> > The front of 221b Baker Street is unexceptional to the eye and I often
> > found
> > people from overseas staring at their maps in the vicinity, trying to
> > figure
> > out just where the building is. 221b of course was a number that did not
> > exist.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Vidya.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Really?? 221B DOES NOT exist??? But I was somehow always under the
impression that it was a real address..the one that has now been converted
into the museum... And that was what my friend said too...

On 12/12/06, Tim <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
>
>   I haven't passed 221b Baker Street recently but there used to be a shop
> right opposite it with all sorts of Sherlock Holmes' 'memorabilia' for
> sale
> - deer-stalkers for example.
> The front of 221b Baker Street is unexceptional to the eye and I often
> found
> people from overseas staring at their maps in the vicinity, trying to
> figure
> out just where the building is. 221b of course was a number that did not
> exist.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Sincerely,
Vidya.


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I haven't passed 221b Baker Street recently but there used to be a shop
right opposite it with all sorts of Sherlock Holmes' 'memorabilia' for sale
- deer-stalkers for example.
The front of 221b Baker Street is unexceptional to the eye and I often found
people from overseas staring at their maps in the vicinity, trying to figure
out just where the building is.  221b of course was a number that did not
exist.


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Hey!

A friend if mine just returned from London and bought me a fridge magnet
from the SH Museum at 221B, Baker Street. And she got me a visiting card
that says "Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective". And it has a signature on
it! So cool!! I love it!

I just had to tell somebody....

Cheers!
Vidya.


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I have noticed that this group was afflicted for a short while by
the ever growing internet blight (adolescent children on computers).
Really nothing much can be done because as long as the net is open
to all, we get all these people that don't contribute anything
serious, they need to go elsewhere for their captive audience. My
instinct says this is a phenominae highly similiar to that of some
ham radio operators of early years. Command over distance and
anyonymous grandstanding, a hallmark of a disturbed personality. It
is almost to the point of...... a study like the Great Detective
would have displayed in examining an interesting specimen.  In this
case someone posting childish or desperate links in an effort to
make money...or be noticed...or to be heard.........actually an
attempted escape from reality to the temporary security of the ether
realms of a nebulous and tentative imaginary world. Sort of the
Walter Mitty effect.

I had greatly enjoyed the previous hints and guess for the stories
of the Canon. I was a bit chagrined mine was not that interesting. I
can only say that it was one of the few stories written in the first
person by Holmes and stimulated my further research into Naval
Architecture of the 1890 era.
I will cease and desist in my posting of such dull inclusions,
leaving this realm to the youthful and energetic.

Many many posts back, I had questioned the general membership if
there was any interest in producing a limited Podcast radio show of
Sherlock Holmes, a short story written for the net and by and for
the SHSI. There are several sites that have free downloads of the
old radio shows with famous actors. As we progress in this group,
the bar is always raised and we each grow and progress in some way.

No more rambles for now....

I have said too much.

Always....

James27Word

P.S.  I have since vacated my Hollywood apartment and am now back in
Las Vegas for those who have asked.........my script did not sell,
not even an option.............oh well

Just thinking, ACD was not a Londoner and may not have visited London from
faraway Scotland until he was an adult.  How did he set about making sure
the street directions for Holmes and Watson were correct (assuming they were
correct)?  Did Holmes ever refer to a street guide?  I believe he referred
to the famous railway timetables which he had learnt by heart.


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http://www.hindu.com/2006/12/08/stories/2006120803840200.htm

I'm sure most members are aware by now that the "Adventures of
Sherlock Holmes" tv series starring Jeremy Brett will be broadcast on
the History Channel. Here is an article that appeared in the press.
Perhaps one of the members might contact the newspaper with
information of the society?

Best wishes,

Jeff

Good that unwanted piece of sh** has been thrown out.
Also overjoyed that people are following the trend set by me of
calling members as Holmesians.
Hope all of you like that.

Thanks Sumal.....the air is cleaner now.

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Dear Holmesians,
  I really do not believe in censorship but it seems that guys like
Ashok need to be moderated before they wreak havoc on the Society.
Reluctantly, I have withdrawn priveleges that he can post on the
Society.He left me with no other option.
  sumalsn

Maybe someone could advise him on how to start his own yahoogroup.

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of Vidya
Subramanian
Sent: 08 December 2006 11:33
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: Re :Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Re: Refrain from
posting frivolous messages

I second that, Sridhar. Moderator, please do something.....

Vidya.

On 08/12/06, Sridhar <cs_gollum@yahoo. <mailto:cs_gollum%40yahoo.com> com>
wrote:
>
> Requests don't seem to be working. The guy obviously needs to be thrown
> out on his ear.
>
> Sridhar
>
> --- In SherlockHolmesSocie
<mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia%40yahoogroups.co.in>
tyofIndia@...<SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia%40yahoogroups.co.in
>,
> "swati goswami"
> <swatigoswami03@...> wrote:
> >
> > We are not interested in the links and any of the information posted
> by Mr. Ashok Kumar.So please stop sending in these messages as we
> instantly delete your mails now.We will block you Mr. Ashok Kumar.Swati
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

--
Sincerely,
Vidya.

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I second that, Sridhar. Moderator, please do something.....

Vidya.

On 08/12/06, Sridhar <cs_gollum@...> wrote:
>
>   Requests don't seem to be working. The guy obviously needs to be thrown
> out on his ear.
>
> Sridhar
>
> --- In
SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...<SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia%40ya\
hoogroups.co.in>,
> "swati goswami"
> <swatigoswami03@...> wrote:
> >
> > We are not interested in the links and any of the information posted
> by Mr. Ashok Kumar.So please stop sending in these messages as we
> instantly delete your mails now.We will block you Mr. Ashok Kumar.Swati
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Sincerely,
Vidya.


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Requests don't seem to be working. The guy obviously needs to be thrown
out on his ear.


Sridhar

--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@..., "swati  goswami"
<swatigoswami03@...> wrote:
>
> We are not interested in the links and any of the information posted
by Mr. Ashok Kumar.So please stop sending in these messages as we
instantly delete your mails now.We will block you Mr. Ashok Kumar.Swati
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

We are not interested in the links and any of the information posted by Mr.
Ashok Kumar.So please stop sending in these messages as we instantly delete your
mails now.We will block you Mr. Ashok Kumar.Swati

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Will the moderator please take steps to remove Mr Ashok Kumar from the
mailing list? He has been bombarding the society with utterly irrelevant
messages.

Ratul

On 07/12/06, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>   Dear Ashok,
> Please refrain from posting such messages which do not concern
> Sherlock Holmes. This is a serious site which discuss things
> Sherlockian.
> I am deleting the messages you have posted earlier.
> Sumalsn
>
>
>


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Dear Ashok,
  Please refrain from posting such messages which do not concern
Sherlock Holmes. This is a serious site which discuss things
Sherlockian.
  I am deleting the messages you have posted earlier.
  Sumalsn

Hi Group,

This is Ravi Rao, and I (re)joined the group just now. In my earlier
avataar, I used to be a member of this group, and used to identify
myself as drummerbonham. Strangely, Yahoo chucked my email id out, and
I ceased to get messages from the group .. it got lonely in the wild
.. and now it feels great to be back again.

Looking forward to read and digest all the interesting messages posted
by the members, especially Dr. Pinaki, Sumal et al

BTW, for members in India, do watch "The History Channel" on the 12th
of December at 9 PM .. Mr. Jeremy Brett is back to play the character
he personified to a T .. the inimitable "Sherlock Holmes"

Happy viewing ..

Cheers,
Ravi.

Dear Srinath and Holmesians,
  Welcome aboard. Please introduce yourself and tell us how you came to
know about this Society. Let us hope History Channel keeps its word
and actually telecast the series. Happy viewing!
Sumalsn

Dear Tim and Holmesians,
  Yes, That is a great idea. It is my fervent hope that with the efflux
of time, that will happen. In fact, I tried to start a society where I
live with little success. You see, it is very difficult to track like
minded persons unless there is a organisation existing. The Internet
is one place where it is easy to find fellow Sherlockians.
Sumalsn

Dear Sri and Holmesians,
  Sri, I think you missed out a great opportunity, I guess to meet a
great Sherlockian.
  Nevertheless, the address of the SHS of Madras was 33, Easr Mada
Street, T. Nagar. Madras - 600017.
  I had corresponded with them on a few occassions. Must be around 1993-
94, after which the correspendence come to an abrupt end since there
were no replies forthcoming . It is a pity about that. I still retain
copies of that letters though DR Krishnaswamy never revealed his
identity to me. He replied his letters as Sherlock Holmes,no less.
   The Hindu had carried a feature on Dr Krishnaswamy some three -four
years back. Let me see whether a google serach would yield any results.
  Sumalsn