I think Penguin would go for it. Also Oxford and Rupa. Of course, it would have
to be really good. What say we all contribute a bit? Make a sort of hodge-podge?


   Sridhar

Tim Symonds <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
           Dear Sumal and members, if any of us members writes a 'sherlock
holmes'
story, which magazines in India might want to publish it?


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From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of sumalsn
Sent: 07 July 2007 06:33
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Digest Number 884

Dear Nikhil and SHians,
Yup, there is asociety which brings railway enthusiasts with
Holmesians in England.
Sumalsn


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Dear Sumal and members, if any of us members writes a 'sherlock holmes'
story, which magazines in India might want to publish it?


   _____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of sumalsn
Sent: 07 July 2007 06:33
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Digest Number 884

Dear Nikhil and SHians,
Yup, there is asociety which brings railway enthusiasts with
Holmesians in England.
Sumalsn



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Dear Nikhil and SHians,
Yup, there is asociety which brings railway enthusiasts with
Holmesians in England.
Sumalsn

In case any members are in England on Sunday August 5 there is a performance
of The Hound of the Baskervilles, taking place within one of the UK’s most
evocative castles, Bodiam Castle.  For description of the setting see
http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/w-visits/w-findaplace/w-bodiamcast
le.htm

The cost of entry is a fairly hefty Sterling £15 for adults, and you have to
bring your own folding chair, picnic and (because of the river nearby)
insect repellent!

Where would members set The Hound of the Baskervilles?




   _____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of sumalsn
Sent: 19 March 2007 13:28
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Is Sherlock Holmes alive and
well?

Dear Holmesians,
Is Sherlock Holmes alive and well. To know more about that,visit-
http://www.digitalj
<http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/33197/Sherlock_Holmes_still_alive>
ournal.com/article/33197/Sherlock_Holmes_still_alive
_and_well_in_readers_minds.
Read and comment. I wonder whether anyone of our members have written
to 221B?
Sumalsn



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What I found most vivid were the description of of his train journeys.

On 6/26/07, jeff katz <jeff_katz@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I agree with the comments below, that it is the quality of the writing
> that
> make the stories so memorable and so popular. The author uses words as a
> painter uses a brush, filling in details to make the story a portrait of
> life as it was at that time, in that place.
>
> Think of the descriptions of some clients, such as Mary Sutherland, or
> Jabez
> Wilson, or the King of Bohemia. From just a few sentences the reader can
> form an idea of their personalities and characters. Or the description of
> the poultry market in "The Blue Carbuncle." Perhaps the best is the Great
> Grimpen Mire.
>
> Any other favourites?
>
> Jeff
> >
> >________________________________________________________________________
> >
> >2.3. Re: Sherlock Holmes and his popularity
> >     Posted by: "Tim Symonds" tim.symonds@...
> >     Date: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:26 pm
> >
> >Harish makes a very good point about Conan Doyle's ability in the Canon
> to
> >keep our attention to the very end.  Is this something to do with the
> >length
> >of the stories - is it because they are quite short?
> >   _____
> >
> >From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
> >[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of
> harish
> >deep
> >Sent: 22 June 2007 15:23
> >To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
> >Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Holmes and his
> >popularity
> >
> >hi holmesians,
> >that was really a nice question by sumalsn...
> >though holmes is a literary character, he definitely occupies a place in
> >everyone's mind who reads the book with interest..that is because he is
> >portrayed to be having skills that no ordinary man would think that they
> >had
> >existed..Doyle's ability to hold the reader's attention till the very end
> >of
> >the story has made sherlock a special one..and to crown it all, sherlock
> is
> >depicted as having excellent skills that seem to be very simple yet
> >powerful
> >that make the readers to try them by their own..so because of the above
> >reasons sherlock is more popular than other detectives..
> >regards,
> >harish
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: sumalsn <no_reply@yahoogroup <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.co.in>
> >s.co.in>
> >To: SherlockHolmesSocie
> ><mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia%40yahoogroups.co.in>
> >tyofIndia@...
> >Sent: Friday, 22 June, 2007 6:11:54 PM
> >Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Holmes and his
> >popularity
> >
> >Dear Holmesians,
> >Why is Sh so popular? Why does a allegedly leterary character hold so
> >much sway on our minds? Why are not other detectives like Hercule
> >Poirot,Nero Wolfe and Miss marple nowhere as popular as Sherlock
> >Holmes? Why are we discussing the Canon so minutely?
> >Sumalsn
> >
> >
>
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Hello all,

I agree with the comments below, that it is the quality of the writing that
make the stories so memorable and so popular. The author uses words as a
painter uses a brush, filling in details to make the story a portrait of
life as it was at that time, in that place.

Think of the descriptions of some clients, such as Mary Sutherland, or Jabez
Wilson, or the King of Bohemia. From just a few sentences the reader can
form an idea of their personalities and characters. Or the description of
the poultry market in "The Blue Carbuncle." Perhaps the best is the Great
Grimpen Mire.

Any other favourites?

Jeff
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>2.3. Re: Sherlock Holmes and his popularity
>     Posted by: "Tim Symonds" tim.symonds@...
>     Date: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:26 pm
>
>Harish makes a very good point about Conan Doyle's ability in the Canon to
>keep our attention to the very end.  Is this something to do with the
>length
>of the stories - is it because they are quite short?
>   _____
>
>From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
>[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of harish
>deep
>Sent: 22 June 2007 15:23
>To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
>Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Holmes and his
>popularity
>
>hi holmesians,
>that was really a nice question by sumalsn...
>though holmes is a literary character, he definitely occupies a place in
>everyone's mind who reads the book with interest..that is because he is
>portrayed to be having skills that no ordinary man would think that they
>had
>existed..Doyle's ability to hold the reader's attention till the very end
>of
>the story has made sherlock a special one..and to crown it all, sherlock is
>depicted as having excellent skills that seem to be very simple yet
>powerful
>that make the readers to try them by their own..so because of the above
>reasons sherlock is more popular than other detectives..
>regards,
>harish
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: sumalsn <no_reply@yahoogroup <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.co.in>
>s.co.in>
>To: SherlockHolmesSocie
><mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia%40yahoogroups.co.in>
>tyofIndia@...
>Sent: Friday, 22 June, 2007 6:11:54 PM
>Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Holmes and his
>popularity
>
>Dear Holmesians,
>Why is Sh so popular? Why does a allegedly leterary character hold so
>much sway on our minds? Why are not other detectives like Hercule
>Poirot,Nero Wolfe and Miss marple nowhere as popular as Sherlock
>Holmes? Why are we discussing the Canon so minutely?
>Sumalsn
>
>

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It is interesting to note that in his real life, Doyle was immensely
concerned with what now is called foreign affairs.  For example, he
campaigned for a Channel Tunnel though this was partly to be able to move
British troops quickly to the aid of France if Germany threatened her again.
The Sherlock Holmes stories in this context seem to me to be a real escape
for Doyle from the very menacing real world which Britain confronted and was
confronted by during the last years of the Great Queen (Victoria) and the
Edwardian period leading up to the First World War.

rom: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of pinaki
roy
Sent: 23 June 2007 18:59
To: sherlockholmessocietyofindia@...
Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] On Holmes's appeal

Dear Sherlockians,

The enduring appeal of Sherlock Holmes appears to be somewhat difficult to
be verbally explained. Doyle had carefully incorporated the relevant
Victorian and Edwardian societal features in his detective to ensure his
lasting appeal to the the-then readers, and later, as a part of the English
love for their heritage, the character became well-loved. Doyle made his
detective a flawless scientist per se, and ensured that he kept himself away
from the generally uncomfortable issues of sex and outright violence. The
detective fiction writer, while creating a NATIONAL detective, incorporated
in the stories several original methods for crime detection, which ensured,
unknown to Doyle, that the adventures are still read compulsorily in the
Egyptian and Chinese police forces as texts. Holmes stories also addresses
suitably the 19th century concerns with imperialism and claim uniqueness and
insularity for the investigator. The Hercule Poirot or Father Brown stories
do not seem to
be philosophically so stretched or so encyclopaedic or exuding NATIONALISM,
and hence they are not as popular as Holmes'.

(Pinaki Roy)






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Dear Holmesians,

Mr. Doyle obviously did a great job with Holmes imbuing him almost superhuman
qualities of logical deduction and composure under fire, but really burns the
stories into the readers mind is the atmospheric writing of Mr. Doyle (remember
the creepy moor).  He incorporates this elements of this without fail in his
each and every story.  I know its criminal to compare Mr. Holmes with any
fictional detective, but at the other extreme of scale is Hieronymous (Harry)
Bosch who almost always gets in trouble with his superiors (while Holmes has
none), but what he lacks in grace makes up for his uncanny ability to do the
right thing at the right time.




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Dear Sherlockians,

   The enduring appeal of Sherlock Holmes appears to be somewhat difficult to be
verbally explained. Doyle had carefully incorporated the relevant Victorian and
Edwardian societal features in his detective to ensure his lasting appeal to the
the-then readers, and later, as a part of the English love for their heritage,
the character became well-loved. Doyle made his detective a flawless scientist
per se, and ensured that he kept himself away from the generally uncomfortable
issues of sex and outright violence. The detective fiction writer, while
creating a NATIONAL detective, incorporated in the stories several original
methods for crime detection, which ensured, unknown to Doyle, that the
adventures are still read compulsorily in the Egyptian and Chinese police forces
as texts. Holmes stories also addresses suitably the 19th century concerns with
imperialism and claim uniqueness and insularity for the investigator. The
Hercule Poirot or Father Brown stories do not seem to
  be philosophically so stretched or so encyclopaedic or exuding NATIONALISM, and
hence they are not as popular as Holmes'.

   (Pinaki Roy)


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Dear Sumal and SHians,

   Holmes was the first detective to whom I was introduced when I was 7 or
thereabouts. It was the serials which attracted me and my mom's strange
statement that they could be scary (she was probably thinking of the Hound).
Secondly, Holmes was everything I aspired to be at that age - tall, intelligent,
and strong (I remember the scene where he straightens out the poker bent by
ummm, you know, the guy...tip of my tongue - Moran?). Later, I added another
quality (very, very desirable to me), that of logical deduction, which
unfortunately is still beyond my grasp.

   I was introduced to Poirot and Miss Marple at age 16 or thereabouts and to
Dupin much later. Dupin was, like Holmes mentions somewhere, quite slow for me.
Besides, not much can be gleaned about his personal habits from what I have
remember from the 2-3 stories I've read.

   Hercule Poirot, of course, is quite another story. I'm getting prematurely
bald, but my head is not egg shaped. Neither do I have a moustache. I'm fond of
symmetry and neatness, but not as mad as he is. Frankly, I don't have many grey
cells to talk about.

   So, why is Holmes my favorite? Well, it must be kinda like first love, I
guess.


   Sridhar.

sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
           Dear Holmesians,
Why is Sh so popular? Why does a allegedly leterary character hold so
much sway on our minds? Why are not other detectives like Hercule
Poirot,Nero Wolfe and Miss marple nowhere as popular as Sherlock
Holmes? Why are we discussing the Canon so minutely?
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I agree. Besides, he was of the opinion, wasn't he, that there's nothing new
under the sun...it's all be done before? Take the "heist" movies for example.
The Sting, Out of Sight, Goodfellas, Heist, Ocean's 11, etc. etc... they all
deal with the same thing - robbery/con or a series of simultaneous cons. All
that varies is the amount of money stolen.


   Sridhar
PS: I just happened to watch these movies in the past month almost
consecutively...

pinaki roy <monkaroy@...> wrote:
           Dear Sherlockians,

I am afraid I am running a bit late, but in response to Sumal's suggestion
regarding Holmes's attachment to the seven percent SOLUTION, it may be mentioned
that during the 1890s, even until the 1920s, cocaine was internationally not
considered to be an illegal drug. As the detective needed to focus 'intensely'
on certain topics during his investigation, cocaine, by making him somewhat
oblivious to the surroundings and daily petty happenings, helped him to
concentrate.

I have this probably wierd idea that Holmes's fondness for implements for
bruglary and his interest in the modus operandi of several anti-social
activities were instrumental in giving him the most precise ideas about how
criminals in similar situation would have worked.

Pinaki


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Harish makes a very good point about Conan Doyle's ability in the Canon to
keep our attention to the very end.  Is this something to do with the length
of the stories - is it because they are quite short?
   _____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of harish
deep
Sent: 22 June 2007 15:23
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Holmes and his
popularity

hi holmesians,
that was really a nice question by sumalsn...
though holmes is a literary character, he definitely occupies a place in
everyone's mind who reads the book with interest..that is because he is
portrayed to be having skills that no ordinary man would think that they had
existed..Doyle's ability to hold the reader's attention till the very end of
the story has made sherlock a special one..and to crown it all, sherlock is
depicted as having excellent skills that seem to be very simple yet powerful
that make the readers to try them by their own..so because of the above
reasons sherlock is more popular than other detectives..
regards,
harish

----- Original Message ----
From: sumalsn <no_reply@yahoogroup <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.co.in>
s.co.in>
To: SherlockHolmesSocie
<mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia%40yahoogroups.co.in>
tyofIndia@...
Sent: Friday, 22 June, 2007 6:11:54 PM
Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Holmes and his
popularity

Dear Holmesians,
Why is Sh so popular? Why does a allegedly leterary character hold so
much sway on our minds? Why are not other detectives like Hercule
Poirot,Nero Wolfe and Miss marple nowhere as popular as Sherlock
Holmes? Why are we discussing the Canon so minutely?
Sumalsn


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As members may know, while there isn't a museum of Arthur Conan Doyle
memorabilia in or near Crowborough where he lived for many years (at
Windlesham Manor, now a residential home for the elderly), there is a statue
of ACD in the town - see  http://www.crowboroughtc.co.uk/

There is a group keeping his memory alive - see
http://www.crowborough.info/conandoyleestablishment.htm

Perhaps they could advise the Sherlock Holmes Society of India in holding a
Sherlock Holmes Festival in, say, Mumbai?



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hi holmesians,
that was really a nice question by sumalsn...
though holmes is a literary character, he definitely occupies a place in
everyone's mind who reads the book with interest..that is because he is
portrayed to be having skills that no ordinary man would think that they had
existed..Doyle's ability to hold the reader's attention till the very end of the
story has made sherlock a special one..and to crown it all, sherlock is depicted
as having excellent skills that seem to be very simple yet powerful that make
the readers to try them by their own..so because of the above reasons sherlock
is more popular than other detectives..
regards,
harish



----- Original Message ----
From: sumalsn <no_reply@...>
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Sent: Friday, 22 June, 2007 6:11:54 PM
Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Sherlock Holmes and his popularity

Dear Holmesians,
Why is Sh so popular? Why does a allegedly leterary character hold so
much sway on our minds? Why are not other detectives like Hercule
Poirot,Nero Wolfe and Miss marple nowhere as popular as Sherlock
Holmes? Why are we discussing the Canon so minutely?
Sumalsn






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Dear Holmesians,
  I suppose the Society is slowly slipping into lethargy! Can we get in
as much of activity as possible?
Sumalsn

Dear Holmesians,
Why is Sh so popular? Why does a allegedly leterary character hold so
much sway on our minds? Why are not other detectives like Hercule
Poirot,Nero Wolfe and Miss marple nowhere as popular as Sherlock
Holmes? Why are we discussing the Canon so minutely?
Sumalsn

Dear Pinaki and Holmesians,
Yes, I think Sherlock Holmes minute knowledge of the criminal mind
hepled him to anticipate what a criminal mind would think at that
stage.An early example of Psycho-profiling, so to say!
Sumalsn

Dear Sherlockians,

                 I am afraid I am running a bit late, but in response to Sumal's
suggestion regarding Holmes's attachment to the seven percent SOLUTION, it may
be mentioned that during the 1890s, even until the 1920s, cocaine was
internationally not considered to be an illegal drug. As the detective needed to
focus 'intensely' on certain topics during his investigation, cocaine, by making
him somewhat oblivious to the surroundings and daily petty happenings, helped
him to concentrate.

   I have this probably wierd idea that Holmes's fondness for implements for
bruglary and his interest in the modus operandi of several anti-social
activities were instrumental in giving him the most precise ideas about how
criminals in similar situation would have worked.

   Pinaki


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Dear Tim and other SHians,

   Though I don't think it is mentioned anywhere in the Canon, I guess the usual
burglar kit would generally include a jemmy, a file, a jack, picks, a hammer, a
pry bar, and a bunch of keys. Since SH was not a regular burglar, he might have
had at least 3 or 4 of the above items in his kit.


   Sridhar

Tim Symonds <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
           Yes, absolutely right. I wonder just which tools Holmes carried around
in
the burgling kit! Are there instances in the Canon where he used a specific
tool?
_____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of Tanmoy
Ghosh
Sent: 08 June 2007 11:50
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Holmes as burglar

Hello Everybody....i suppose this is the first time that i am contributing
to this interesting communication ........

Well the answer is ...." The adventures of Charles Augustus Milverton "...
and the balance part of the statement is like this --- "..........This is
the chance of my lifetime in that direction. See here!"

Tim Symonds <tim.symonds@ <mailto:tim.symonds%40shevolution.com>
shevolution.com> wrote:
Question: in which story did Holmes say "You know, Watson, I don't mind
confessing to you that I have always had the idea I would have made a highly
efficient criminal" ?

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Dear James and other SHians,

   It does sound like another conspiracy/da Vinci code kind of nutcase theory.

   But then again, when a certain Dutchman came out with his Aliens theory (with
debatable proof), it was instantly boo-hooed by one half and supported and
accepted by another half of the populace... and is still doing the rounds. And,
like James says, ACD was quite brilliant despite his eccentricities. I'd say
it's an interesting thought.


   Sridhar

james27word <james27word@...> wrote:
           Hello Fellow SHSI members....

In a recent thread concerning Holmes as possibly possessing ample
skills to "burgle" at will with impunity. A Master Magician of the
first order could not compete with the Great Detective. Most
certainly the issues of "could he " ...should rather be addressed
to the issue........."did he" ?

Well, if Lestrade and others at the yard gave Holmes inside
information on the latest skills and developements of the criminal
happenings locally(who was teaching who?)......of course along with
information from street children (BSI)....well....with his keen
mind.....he would have the upper hand in any criminal endeavour he
would undertake...

Could Holmes have easily set up certain criminals to exact vigilante
justice....or even just to eliminate the competition?? The more I
read between the lines the more I suspect that the Great Detective
was not a double agent for the law...or even a triple
agent.......but something more....

If what we know of Holmes so far, in relation to the Canon and
accepting the literal presentation of the stories......then
logically we need to ask why Holmes allowed himself to "partake" of
the 7 percent solution? It does not ring true....a man that
intelligent and creative, with ability to construct elaborate traps
and analyze the near impossible........would he ...really....resort
to the solution...or.............is this another blind...a
misdirection to the reader to insure that Holmes is perceived as
vulnerable in a specific arena. There is no certain hard proof
the "solution" he used was actually the "real" thing. Another blind
and misdirection perhaps.

Will we all forever take at face value the reports and impressions
of the good Doctor...........although several stories are in the
first person. It leaves a considerable amount of literary license to
be acceptable.....if we never question the motivations and control
of the Mind of the Great Detective.

Many reasons and excuses have been proposed for his
behaviour........from ADD to mild epilepsy to bi-polar disorder to
many other variations to answer for the basic lack of continuity and
logic he so desperately tried to present as his MO.

Although some members may disagree, I feel that one reason ACD may
have been so reticent to continue the Canon is that it was becoming
more and more difficult to disguise and maintain the true essence
of his creation..........his possibly greatly misunderstood creation.

In reading popular "fiction".... people are at liberty to choose
their own level of reality in the stories....as we accept the
illusion of the certainty of 1895 in permanent residence somewhere
sometime someplace in someones mind......as ACD knew in
advance....his creation would have immortality.......and a man as
cunning as ACD, and as educated...knew that sooner or later someone
or somegroup....would unravel his twists and hidden stories behind
the Canon.............in short............someday people would know
the truth about Holmes and the Canon.

I just have a suspicion..... there may be another view on the Canon
that ACD intended from the very start........but along the
way....the very select few who did figure "it" out....were sworn to
secrecy.

I propose this possibility...........that there exists(or used to
exist) a secret organization or affiliation of ACD
afficianados......who have found the secret TRUTH in the
Canon...........I think others may have heard this at sometime or
another.............although it seems very far fetched..........it
clears up nearly all the questions and at the same time provides
answers and does pique the curiousity of the true detectives....

I am still reading more on the earlier Canon
organizations......which go back over a hundred years. Illuminating
yet very curiously odd at times, possibly the Apocryphal tales and
Monographs by well known Canon students.....may provide a suitable
direction to pursue..........maybe another member has considered
advancing a similiar theory.... also.... I would very much like to
hear from them.

Respectfully,

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Welcome to SHSOI, Archana. Tell us about yourself and how you got interested in
Sherlock Holmes.


   Sridhar

archana sreelatha <achu_talks@...> wrote:
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Hello Fellow SHSI members....


In a recent thread concerning Holmes as possibly  possessing ample
skills to "burgle" at will with impunity. A Master Magician of the
first order could not compete with the Great Detective. Most
certainly the issues of "could he "    ...should rather be addressed
to the issue........."did he"   ?

Well, if Lestrade and others at the yard gave Holmes inside
information on the latest skills and developements of the criminal
happenings locally(who was teaching who?)......of course along with
information from street children (BSI)....well....with his keen
mind.....he would have the upper hand in any criminal endeavour he
would undertake...

Could Holmes have easily set up certain criminals to exact vigilante
justice....or even just to eliminate the competition??  The more I
read between the lines the more I suspect that the Great Detective
was not a double agent for the law...or even a triple
agent.......but something more....

If what we know of Holmes so far, in relation to the Canon and
accepting the literal presentation of the stories......then
logically we need to ask why Holmes allowed himself to "partake" of
the 7 percent solution? It does not ring true....a man that
intelligent and creative, with ability to construct elaborate traps
and analyze the near impossible........would he ...really....resort
to the solution...or.............is this another blind...a
misdirection to the reader to insure that Holmes is perceived as
vulnerable in a specific arena. There is no certain hard proof
the "solution" he used was actually the "real" thing. Another blind
and misdirection perhaps.

Will we all forever take at face value the  reports and impressions
of the good Doctor...........although several stories are in the
first person. It leaves a considerable amount of literary license to
be acceptable.....if we never question the motivations and control
of the Mind of the Great Detective.

Many reasons and excuses have been proposed for his
behaviour........from ADD to mild epilepsy to bi-polar disorder to
many other variations to answer for the basic lack of continuity and
logic he so desperately tried to present as his MO.

Although some members may disagree, I feel that one reason ACD may
have been so reticent to continue the Canon is that it was becoming
more and more difficult to disguise and maintain the true essence
of his creation..........his possibly greatly misunderstood creation.

In reading popular "fiction".... people are at liberty to choose
their own level of reality in the stories....as we accept the
illusion of the certainty of 1895 in permanent residence somewhere
sometime someplace in someones mind......as ACD knew in
advance....his creation would have immortality.......and a man as
cunning as ACD, and as educated...knew that sooner or later someone
or somegroup....would unravel his twists and hidden stories behind
the Canon.............in short............someday people would know
the truth about Holmes and the Canon.

I just have a suspicion.....  there may be another view on the Canon
that ACD intended from the very start........but along the
way....the very select few who did figure "it" out....were sworn to
secrecy.

  I propose this possibility...........that there exists(or used to
exist) a secret organization or affiliation of ACD
afficianados......who have found the secret TRUTH in the
Canon...........I think others may have heard this at sometime or
another.............although it seems very far fetched..........it
clears up nearly all the questions and at the same time provides
answers and does pique the curiousity of the true detectives....

I am still reading more on the earlier Canon
organizations......which go back over a hundred years.  Illuminating
yet very curiously odd at times, possibly the Apocryphal tales and
Monographs by well known Canon students.....may provide a suitable
direction to pursue..........maybe another member has considered
advancing a similiar theory.... also.... I would very much like to
hear from them.

Respectfully,

James27Word

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I wonder how ACD's research into material for his novels affected his
Sherlock Holmes' stories or vice-versa?  For example, he published 'Rodney
Stone' in 1896, described as a 'pre-Regency mystery'.




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Dear Tim and SHians,
I think he asked Dr Watson to make a silk mask too!
Sumalsn

Yes, absolutely right.  I wonder just which tools Holmes carried around in
the burgling kit!  Are there instances in the Canon where he used a specific
tool?
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From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of Tanmoy
Ghosh
Sent: 08 June 2007 11:50
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Holmes as burglar

Hello Everybody....i suppose this is the first time that i am contributing
to this interesting communication ........

Well the answer is ...." The adventures of Charles Augustus Milverton "...
and the balance part of the statement is like this --- "..........This is
the chance of my lifetime in that direction. See here!"

Tim Symonds <tim.symonds@ <mailto:tim.symonds%40shevolution.com>
shevolution.com> wrote:
Question: in which story did Holmes say "You know, Watson, I don't mind
confessing to you that I have always had the idea I would have made a highly
efficient criminal" ?

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Hello Everybody....i suppose this is the first time that i am contributing to
this interesting communication ........

   Well the answer is ...." The adventures of Charles Augustus Milverton "... and
the balance part of the statement is like this  --- "..........This is the
chance of my lifetime in that direction. See here!"

Tim Symonds <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
           Question: in which story did Holmes say "You know, Watson, I don't
mind
confessing to you that I have always had the idea I would have made a highly
efficient criminal" ?

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Question: in which story did Holmes say "You know, Watson, I don't mind
confessing to you that I have always had the idea I would have made a highly
efficient criminal" ?


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Dear James and Shians,
I think PG Wodehouse propogated this idea too!
Sumalsn

Salutations Fellow SHSI members,



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a radical view, irreverent yet vaguely appreciative.........not quite
what I would call a typical blog. was Moriarty the true genius and
facilitator for our Great Detective? What better shield than to front a
super consulting detective to divert attention from the real crimes and
functions occuring in society. Was SH simply a foil and puppet (highly
developed of course) for those who held true power over right and
wrong.....and selected the shortest route to power and money? Are we
still focused on the oblique happenings in the world because someone
wants our attention elsewhere than where it could help society. ???
Did Moriarty hold sway over the press? Did Moriarty have an inside man
in the Yard ? Was Mrs. Hudson in the clutches of a Moriarty alumni???
Was Moriarty truely persona non grata in the upper reaches of the hoi
poloi......the great grand exalted high falutin head hoochie doochie???

I Remain as Always,

At Your Service............

James27Word