Dear Holmesians,
We have just passed 07 years of existence on May 28 2008. We must be
one of the oldest  active societies existing on the Net. It has been
only due to the sustained participation of all the members that has
contributed to our success. we hope to cross many such milestones in
future too!
Sumalsn

Dear SHians,

   I doubt if I'll be able to choose a best seeing as how I find it difficult to
say which author/book is my favorite. There have been people whom I've heard
saying that a few stories in the Canon sound lame, though they are never able to
point one out. For me it's always the thrill of the chase, as it is with the
Great Detective. No matter how big or small a case I've always enjoyed following
Holmes' footsteps like a very naive Watson. Although, I must admit, that the
"Case of the two similar intros to an adventure" (which has been discussed
before) was where I had a sense of deja vu to the point where the second case
began taking a different turn.

   But if cornered I'll have to go with Anand and say the "Five Orange Pips"
through the same reasoning. And though not an intro, the beginning portions of
the second half of "A Study in Scarlet" (Country of Saints?) were not as
interesting as the first half. Perhaps it was simply meant to be read as a sort
of addendum, filled as it was with so many historical facts and inaccuracies.
But then, I was never very fond of History.


   Sridhar

Sambit Mukherjee <sambit96@...> wrote:
           Study in a Scarlet for me

----- Original Message ----
From: pramod shetty <getpramod1@...>
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:18:49 PM
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Best introduction to Sherlock
Holmes

Well the story which introduced me to Sherlock Holmes and Canon writing skillls
was ' The Hound of Baskerville' ....truly a genius and great story in
itself...the testimony to it greatness is the number of movies made on this
story alone ...of all the stories...I think this story must have been read by
most people in this whole world and fascinated by this story.

After reading this story.....i just went into search through library for other
Sherlock Stories...and have read most or should i say all of the stories..i am a
complete fan of Sherlock Holmes and suggest all my friends to read his
stories..if not already read by them........ ......... So according to me ' The
Hound of Baskerville' is the best introduction to Sherlock Holmes.

Regards,
Pramod

Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@gmail. com> wrote:
I was baptised in the canon through a short story collection
not very aptly titled "Yellow Face", since it contained 5 stories
one of which was "The Yellow Face". The other stories were
"Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax", "Five Orange Pips"
and "Adventure of Cardboard Box".

I still recall how my imagination was ignited by the last two stories,
more by "Five Orange Pips" than the other, because it had
a reference to an actual organization and the criminals had an
aura surrounding them, since they were never spotted in the act.
The way Holmes approached the case by working back from the
sea ports was classic.

For this reason my favorite introductory story is "Five Orange Pips".

--Anand

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@yahoogroup s.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Holmesians,
> Which is the Adventure Of sherlock Holmes would you think is the best
> introduction to the Canon?
> My vote goes to the " Red Headed League and Speckled band"
> Sumalsn
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
-Anand

ALWAYS YOUR,

PRAMOD SHETTY

Criticize the Performance, Not the Performer
Work your way for a Cause & Not for Applause
Live your Life to Express & not Impress
Bcoz, Life is simply Beautiful... ..

So Always Be happy

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Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.

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Study in a Scarlet for me



----- Original Message ----
From: pramod shetty <getpramod1@...>
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:18:49 PM
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Best introduction to Sherlock
Holmes


Well the story which introduced me to Sherlock Holmes and Canon writing skillls
was ' The Hound of Baskerville' ....truly a genius and great story in
itself...the testimony to it greatness is the number of movies made on this
story alone ...of all the stories...I think this story must have been read by
most people in this whole world and fascinated by this story.

After reading this story.....i just went into search through library for other
Sherlock Stories...and have read most or should i say all of the stories..i am a
complete fan of Sherlock Holmes and suggest all my friends to read his
stories..if not already read by them........ ......... So according to me ' The
Hound of Baskerville' is the best introduction to Sherlock Holmes.

Regards,
Pramod

Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@gmail. com> wrote:
I was baptised in the canon through a short story collection
not very aptly titled "Yellow Face", since it contained 5 stories
one of which was "The Yellow Face". The other stories were
"Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax", "Five Orange Pips"
and "Adventure of Cardboard Box".

I still recall how my imagination was ignited by the last two stories,
more by "Five Orange Pips" than the other, because it had
a reference to an actual organization and the criminals had an
aura surrounding them, since they were never spotted in the act.
The way Holmes approached the case by working back from the
sea ports was classic.

For this reason my favorite introductory story is "Five Orange Pips".

--Anand

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@yahoogroup s.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Holmesians,
> Which is the Adventure Of sherlock Holmes would you think is the best
> introduction to the Canon?
> My vote goes to the " Red Headed League and Speckled band"
> Sumalsn
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
-Anand

ALWAYS YOUR,


PRAMOD SHETTY

Criticize the Performance, Not the Performer
Work your way for a Cause & Not for Applause
Live your Life to Express & not Impress
Bcoz, Life is simply Beautiful... ..

So Always Be happy

------------ --------- --------- ---
Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.

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Well the story which introduced me to Sherlock Holmes and Canon writing skillls
was ' The Hound of Baskerville'....truly a genius and great story in
itself...the testimony to it greatness is the number of movies made on this
story alone ...of all the stories...I think this story must have been read by
most people in this whole world and fascinated by this story.

   After reading this story.....i just went into search through library for other
Sherlock Stories...and have read most or should i say all of the stories..i am a
complete fan of Sherlock Holmes and suggest all my friends to read his
stories..if not already read by them.................So according to me ' The
Hound of Baskerville' is the best introduction to Sherlock Holmes.

   Regards,
   Pramod

Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@...> wrote:
           I was baptised in the canon through a short story collection
not very aptly titled "Yellow Face", since it contained 5 stories
one of which was "The Yellow Face". The other stories were
"Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax", "Five Orange Pips"
and "Adventure of Cardboard Box".

I still recall how my imagination was ignited by the last two stories,
more by "Five Orange Pips" than the other, because it had
a reference to an actual organization and the criminals had an
aura surrounding them, since they were never spotted in the act.
The way Holmes approached the case by working back from the
sea ports was classic.

For this reason my favorite introductory story is "Five Orange Pips".

--Anand

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Dear Holmesians,
> Which is the Adventure Of sherlock Holmes would you think is the best
> introduction to the Canon?
> My vote goes to the " Red Headed League and Speckled band"
> Sumalsn
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
-Anand





ALWAYS YOUR,


   PRAMOD SHETTY

   Criticize the Performance,Not the Performer
Work your way for a Cause & Not for Applause
Live your Life to Express & not Impress
Bcoz, Life is simply Beautiful.....

So Always Be happy



---------------------------------
  Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it,  we have it.

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My vote goes for Silver Blaze. If that doesn't capture your imagination, nothing
will.

Sagnik.

Love Thy Cosmos.

--- On Fri, 23/5/08, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@...> wrote:
From: Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@...>
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Best introduction to Sherlock
Holmes
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Date: Friday, 23 May, 2008, 6:18 PM











             I was baptised in the canon through a short story collection

not very aptly titled "Yellow Face", since it contained 5 stories

one of which was "The Yellow Face".  The other stories were

"Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax", "Five Orange Pips"

and "Adventure of Cardboard Box".



I still recall how my imagination was ignited by the last two stories,

more by "Five Orange Pips" than the other, because it had

a reference to an actual organization and the criminals had an

aura surrounding them, since they were never spotted in the act.

The way Holmes approached the case by working back from the

sea ports was classic.



For this reason my favorite introductory story is "Five Orange Pips".



--Anand



On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@yahoogroup s.co.in>
wrote:

> Dear Holmesians,

> Which is the Adventure Of sherlock Holmes would you think is the best

> introduction to the Canon?

> My vote goes to the " Red Headed League and Speckled band"

> Sumalsn

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>



--

-Anand

























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I was baptised in the canon through a short story collection
not very aptly titled "Yellow Face", since it contained 5 stories
one of which was "The Yellow Face".  The other stories were
"Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax", "Five Orange Pips"
and "Adventure of Cardboard Box".

I still recall how my imagination was ignited by the last two stories,
more by "Five Orange Pips" than the other, because it had
a reference to an actual organization and the criminals had an
aura surrounding them, since they were never spotted in the act.
The way Holmes approached the case by working back from the
sea ports was classic.

For this reason my favorite introductory story is "Five Orange Pips".

--Anand


On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Dear Holmesians,
> Which is the Adventure Of sherlock Holmes would you think is the best
> introduction to the Canon?
> My vote goes to the " Red Headed League and Speckled band"
> Sumalsn
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



--
-Anand

Dear Holmesians,
Which is the Adventure Of sherlock Holmes would you think is the best
introduction to the Canon?
My vote goes to the " Red Headed League and Speckled band"
Sumalsn

You forgot Edgar Allen Poe, the American writer who created Dupin.
Though Dupin never enjoyed the popularity and longevity of Holmes,
Poe literally created the detective fiction genre with this character in
1841 with "Murders in the Rue Morge".

Doyle is surely impressed by Poe and we can see this in "Scarlet", with
the reference to Dupin though Holmes disparages Dupin as an "inferior
fellow".

"Now, in my opinion, Dupin was a very inferior fellow. That trick of
his of breaking in on his friends' thoughts with an apropos remark
  after a quarter of an hour's silence is really very showy and superficial.
He had some analytical genius, no doubt; but he was by no means
such a phenomenon as Poe appeared to imagine."

Interestingly, this is exactly what Holmes does when he
silently traces Watson's thoughts regarding the preposterous
nature of wars  in "The adventure of the cardboard box".

--Anand

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Tim Symonds
<tim.symonds@...> wrote:
> In the American context, two writers of detective fiction who spring to mind
> who created memorable characters are  Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammet,
> Chandler publishing from the late 1930s to the mid-60s, and Hammet from
> about 1929.
>
>
>
> They both came to prominence through the pulp magazines.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



--
-Anand

In the American context, two writers of detective fiction who spring to mind
who created memorable characters are  Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammet,
Chandler publishing from the late 1930s to the mid-60s, and Hammet from
about 1929.



They both came to prominence through the pulp magazines.



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Dear Holmesians,
Why is that only fictional characters created by British writers get
iconic status- Sherlock Holmes, James Bond , Miss Marple &Hercule
Poirot etc. One will be hardpressed to quote a fictional detective
created by a non British writer who has had an iconic status though
Rex Stout and Philip Marlowe comes somewhat near. what are your
opinions on this?
sumalsn

Hello,

There's a current series of S Holmes radio plays at Imagination Theater
http://jimfrenchproductions.com/zc137m/index.php?main_page=page&id=2&chapter=0

They have two ongoing series of Sherlock Holmes, "The Classic Adventures of
Sherlock Holmes" (based on the original stories) and "The Further Adventures of
Sherlock Holmes" (new stories). Every week they post a new poduction. Available
now are "THE FURTHER ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES - How Watson Learned the
Trick" based on the short sketch by Conan Doyle, and "RAFFLES THE GENTLEMAN
THIEF - A Change of Direction" based on the story written by EW Hornung, Conan
Doyle's sister's husband.

Best wishes,

Jeff


________________________________________________________________________
1.1. Re: old sherlock radio shows...
Posted by: "sundar_the_real_kid" no_reply@... sundar_the_real_kid
Date: Thu May 8, 2008 11:49 pm

hye thanks nathray.. ok guys that is all?? no one seen this topic
yet... come on i want more reviews fromu guys


--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@..., Soumendra Nath
Ray  wrote:
>
> sundar,
>
> this is a real find... thanks a lot!
>
> SSS
>
>
> --- sundar_the_real_kid
> wrote:
>
>> hey guys this is my first time i am sending mail to
>> u groupies...
>>
>> i got some old sherlock Holmes old radio sows way
>> before 1960's i
>> guess i am not sure
>
<>
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hye thanks nathray.. ok guys that is all?? no one seen this topic
yet... come on i want more reviews fromu guys


--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@..., Soumendra Nath
Ray <somsparks@...> wrote:
>
> sundar,
>
> this is a real find... thanks a lot!
>
> SSS
>
>
> --- sundar_the_real_kid <no_reply@...>
> wrote:
>
> > hey guys this is my first time i am sending mail to
> > u groupies...
> >
> > i got some old sherlock Holmes old radio sows way
> > before 1960's i
> > guess i am not sure
> >
> > i don't know how to give u.. though i uploaded it
> > rapidshare to give u
> > guys... here r the links..  give ur thoughts abt
> > it...
> >
> > its a rare find plz tel me abt it
> >
> > sample
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/40480078/sh-sample.rar
> >
> > files:
> >
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40552698/sh.otr.part1.rar
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40555338/sh.otr.part2.rar
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40557915/sh.otr.part3.rar
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40560670/sh.otr.part4.rar
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40563165/sh.otr.part5.rar
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40565946/sh.otr.part6.rar
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40568017/sh.otr.part7.rar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Dear Holmesians,
I welcome you to the Society. Please introduce yourselves.
Sumalsn

Dear Holmesians,
  I remember seeing an ad for Sherlock Holmes Movies by the Music today
group in the India Today magazine. Anyone having more detials on that
Sumalsn

sundar,

this is a real find... thanks a lot!

SSS


--- sundar_the_real_kid <no_reply@...>
wrote:

> hey guys this is my first time i am sending mail to
> u groupies...
>
> i got some old sherlock Holmes old radio sows way
> before 1960's i
> guess i am not sure
>
> i don't know how to give u.. though i uploaded it
> rapidshare to give u
> guys... here r the links..  give ur thoughts abt
> it...
>
> its a rare find plz tel me abt it
>
> sample
> http://rapidshare.com/files/40480078/sh-sample.rar
>
> files:
>
>
http://rapidshare.com/files/40552698/sh.otr.part1.rar
>
http://rapidshare.com/files/40555338/sh.otr.part2.rar
>
http://rapidshare.com/files/40557915/sh.otr.part3.rar
>
http://rapidshare.com/files/40560670/sh.otr.part4.rar
>
http://rapidshare.com/files/40563165/sh.otr.part5.rar
>
http://rapidshare.com/files/40565946/sh.otr.part6.rar
>
http://rapidshare.com/files/40568017/sh.otr.part7.rar
>
>
>
>
>
>



      
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hey guys this is my first time i am sending mail to u groupies...

i got some old sherlock Holmes old radio sows way before 1960's i
guess i am not sure

i don't know how to give u.. though i uploaded it rapidshare to give u
guys... here r the links..  give ur thoughts abt it...

its a rare find plz tel me abt it

sample
http://rapidshare.com/files/40480078/sh-sample.rar

files:

http://rapidshare.com/files/40552698/sh.otr.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/40555338/sh.otr.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/40557915/sh.otr.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/40560670/sh.otr.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/40563165/sh.otr.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/40565946/sh.otr.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/40568017/sh.otr.part7.rar

I have been glancing through a curious book titled 'The World Of Sherlock
Holmes' by Michael Harrison, published by Frederick Muller Limited (ISBN 0
584 10334 4) which purports to fill in all the various and many gaps about
Holmes' ancestry, what he did during the missing years etc. The copy I have
was withdrawn from East Sussex Country Library back in 1990 and I found it
at a second-hand book-store in East Sussex.   Harrison also published other
works, including 'In The Footsteps Of Sherlock Holmes'.

I don't know what postage costs in India but if it is not costly, perhaps
the Society ought to create its own Lending Library, available to readers
and students.  Books in the UK such as the above are widely available at
second-hand bookshops for as little as 50 cents US.

   _____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of
thasleem_sabith
Sent: 26 April 2008 06:37
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Re: Old Holmes Movies at the
Internet Archive



--- In SherlockHolmesSocie
<mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia%40yahoogroups.co.in>
tyofIndia@..., "Anand
Balachandran Pillai" <abpillai@...> wrote:
>
> The Internet Archive (IA) has a collection of old, copyright-expired
> movies which includes some Sherlock Holmes movies.
>
> A search on the site yielded 26 results, among which there are
> a few gems.
>
> http://www.archive.
<http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=sherlock%20holmes%20AND%25>
org/search.php?query=sherlock%20holmes%20AND%
20mediatype%3Amovies
>
> --Anand
>
its great yaar. i really wanted to see all old holmes movies. thank
you. by the way which place u belongs to? i mean are u frm kerala?





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--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@..., "Anand
Balachandran Pillai" <abpillai@...> wrote:
>
> The Internet Archive (IA) has a collection of old, copyright-expired
> movies which includes some Sherlock Holmes movies.
>
> A search on the site yielded 26 results, among which there are
> a few gems.
>
> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=sherlock%20holmes%20AND%
20mediatype%3Amovies
>
> --Anand
>
  its great yaar. i really wanted to see all old holmes movies. thank
you. by the way which place u belongs to? i mean are u frm kerala?

I agree 100%.Cant put Harry Potter in the rung of Holmes.

Regards
Sujoy



----- Original Message ----
From: Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@...>
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:59:09 AM
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Re: Sherlock Holmes Vs Harry
potter

I would agree with you on this 100%. I also want to point out that it is wrong
to suggest that the Fantasy genre to which Harry Potter belongs does not
provide any kind of mental stimulation. I haven't read any Potter books and
don't plan to read one too, but I get a feeling that the rich
characters portrayed
in these stories along with their supreme flights of fantasy and imagination
mixed with magical abilities is a potent heady mix for youngsters and teenagers
and young adults. A potter may not excite the left analytical brain
like a Holmes,
but surely it does excite the right hemisphere which is the seat of
visual thoughts
and imagination.

It is one thing to suggest that the Canon is superior in detective fiction to
anything ever written to which I would agree whole-heartedly but it is
hypocritical to suggest that other genres of fiction and literature are
worthless in comparison.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, sumant30 <sumant30@yahoo. co.in> wrote:

> >
> I think canon doyle is still famous for sherlock as well as as his
> other works such as the "Lost World".But your point is good one but i
> would like to state that Harry potter is for a age group of 10-15
> while adults like us like to read sometimes to read Harry Potter but
> we are sure to get bored with it as it is not having any mental
> stimulation to it so we are attracted to conan and sherlock and i
> think you can read sherlock whatever age you have it gives you a
> mental stimulus which Harry Potter never can.

--
-Anand




      
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The link on Google for the feature and photo on Conan Doyle in the Arctic is
http://www.leigh-smith.org/552.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*



All the best



Tim

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From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of Anand
Balachandran Pillai
Sent: 23 April 2008 07:18
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Ben Leigh Smith and Conan
Doyle



Hi Tim,

I think the group removes attachments including images. Could you please
upload these to the file section ? I don't think anyone got the images
in this email.

Regards

--Anand

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Tim Symonds
<tim.symonds@ <mailto:tim.symonds%40shevolution.com> shevolution.com> wrote:
> I was visiting a family near my home in East Sussex yesterday descended
> from the Leigh Smith family, and the subject of Conan Doyle came up.
> Apparently he went to the Arctic with Ben Leigh Smith, a famous Victorian
> explorer, and they lost their ship in the Arctic and spent six months in
the
> dark, before managing to get home. In the photo below ACD is third from
> left, clearly very young.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> On board the EIRA in 1880 by courtesy of Arthur Credland Hull Museums
>
>
>
>
> On July 11 1880 the Eira is on her way to the Arctic when she meets up
with
> two other Peterhead ships, the Hope and the Eclipse. The meeting is
recorded
> in this historic photograph taken on the aft deck of the Eira. From left
to
> right are: David Gray at the helm (Capt. Eclipse), Benjamin Leigh-Smith
> (Capt./owner Eira), Arthur Conan Doyle (Surgeon Hope), John Gray (Capt.
> Hope), Dr.Walker and Dr.Neale, and William Lofley (ice master Eira) right
at
> the stern. Conan Doyle was then an undergraduate at Edinburgh University
and
> his Arctic experiences on board the Hope lead to his taking up the pen as
> the spiritual father of Sherlock Holmes and publishing "The captain of the
> Polestar" in 1883.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
-Anand





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The Internet Archive (IA) has a collection of old, copyright-expired
movies which includes some Sherlock Holmes movies.

A search on the site yielded 26 results, among which there are
a few gems.

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=sherlock%20holmes%20AND%20mediatype%3Amo\
vies

--Anand

I would agree with you on this 100%. I also want to point out that it is wrong
to suggest that the Fantasy genre to which Harry Potter belongs does not
provide any kind of mental stimulation. I haven't read any Potter books and
don't plan to read one too, but I get a feeling that the rich
characters portrayed
in these stories along with their supreme flights of fantasy and imagination
mixed with magical abilities is a potent heady mix for youngsters and teenagers
and young adults. A potter may not excite the left analytical brain
like a Holmes,
but surely it does excite the right hemisphere which is the seat of
visual thoughts
and imagination.

It is one thing to suggest that the Canon is superior in detective fiction to
anything ever written to which I would agree whole-heartedly but it is
hypocritical to suggest that other genres of fiction and literature are
worthless in comparison.




On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, sumant30 <sumant30@...> wrote:

>  >
>  I think canon doyle is still famous for sherlock as well as as his
>  other works such as the "Lost World".But your point is good one but i
>  would like to state that Harry potter is for a age group of 10-15
>  while adults like us like to read sometimes to read Harry Potter but
>  we are sure to get bored with it as it is not having any mental
>  stimulation to it so we are attracted to conan and sherlock and i
>  think you can read sherlock whatever age you have it gives you a
>  mental stimulus which Harry Potter never can.


--
-Anand

Hi Tim,

        I think the group removes attachments including images. Could you please
upload these to the file section ? I don't think anyone got the images
in this email.

Regards

--Anand

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Tim Symonds
<tim.symonds@...> wrote:
>  I was visiting a family near my home in East Sussex yesterday descended
>  from the Leigh Smith family, and the subject of Conan Doyle came up.
>  Apparently he went to the Arctic with Ben Leigh Smith, a famous Victorian
>  explorer, and they lost their ship in the Arctic and spent six months in the
>  dark, before managing to get home.  In the photo below ACD is third from
>  left, clearly very young.
>
>
>
>  Tim
>
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  --------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>  On board the EIRA in 1880   by courtesy of Arthur Credland Hull  Museums
>
>
>
>
>  On July 11 1880 the Eira is on her way to the Arctic when she meets up with
>  two other Peterhead ships, the Hope and the Eclipse. The meeting is recorded
>  in this historic photograph taken on the aft deck of the Eira. From left to
>  right are: David Gray at the helm (Capt. Eclipse), Benjamin Leigh-Smith
>  (Capt./owner Eira),  Arthur Conan Doyle (Surgeon Hope), John Gray (Capt.
>  Hope), Dr.Walker and Dr.Neale, and William Lofley (ice master Eira) right at
>  the stern. Conan Doyle was then an undergraduate at Edinburgh University and
>  his Arctic experiences on board the Hope lead to his taking up the pen as
>  the spiritual father of Sherlock Holmes and publishing "The captain of the
>  Polestar" in 1883.
>
>
>
>
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>



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-Anand

I was visiting a family near my home in East Sussex yesterday descended
from the Leigh Smith family, and the subject of Conan Doyle came up.
Apparently he went to the Arctic with Ben Leigh Smith, a famous Victorian
explorer, and they lost their ship in the Arctic and spent six months in the
dark, before managing to get home.  In the photo below ACD is third from
left, clearly very young.



Tim

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------





On board the EIRA in 1880   by courtesy of Arthur Credland Hull  Museums




On July 11 1880 the Eira is on her way to the Arctic when she meets up with
two other Peterhead ships, the Hope and the Eclipse. The meeting is recorded
in this historic photograph taken on the aft deck of the Eira. From left to
right are: David Gray at the helm (Capt. Eclipse), Benjamin Leigh-Smith
(Capt./owner Eira),  Arthur Conan Doyle (Surgeon Hope), John Gray (Capt.
Hope), Dr.Walker and Dr.Neale, and William Lofley (ice master Eira) right at
the stern. Conan Doyle was then an undergraduate at Edinburgh University and
his Arctic experiences on board the Hope lead to his taking up the pen as
the spiritual father of Sherlock Holmes and publishing "The captain of the
Polestar" in 1883.





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--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@..., "Anand
Balachandran Pillai" <abpillai@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>    A character like Sherlock Holmes is never going to go entirely out
> of the general
> public memory for many years to come. Still the fact is that the
> character is now
> more than a century old, and he is one of the relics of the Victorian
> era. You cannot
> think of Holmes and Watson without thinking about Victorian England.
>
>  The stories of Holmes still hold fascination to many people. The way
> the stories
> are crafted, enthusiasts of detective fiction always find something
> new even after
> reading the stories many times. That is a feature of classics such
as the Canon.
> In that way Holmes is unique and irreplacable.
>
>   Still the point raised by Sumal was how much the current and new
generation is
> going to read and get inspired by the Canon. It is more of a question
> of exposure
> to it, rather than getting inspired by it after reading it. I can
> surely imagine my
> son reading the "Hound" end to end with tremendous interest. The
fact is that
> with today's literature and reading closely tied to cinema and
> multimedia in general,
> young generation are more likely to get exposed to and attracted by
popular
> culture heroes such as Harry Potter or a Spiderman.
>
>  The Canon is no light reading. It takes some serious effort and
interest to
> read the stories, understand them and appreciate them. I remember
that my first
> Canon story was titled "The Yellow Face". It was a Malayalam
translation of
> 5 selected short stories from the Canon, one of which was the "The
Yellow Face".
> The book was won as a prize by my elder brother for some competition
in school.
> I devoured every word of it, got inspired and then made all efforts to
> get stories
> from the Canon. Since those days parents did not have enough money
to afford
> extra books, I made to do with borrowings mostly from the school
library which
> contained almost the entire collection.
>
>  With a stretch of imagination, is it possible that a school today
> will give away
> such a book as prize to a student ? They are more likely to give
away a Harry
> Potter or such.
>
>  In the future, a Sherlockian is going to be more and more of a rare
creature,
> unless societies such as ours do something to popularize the Canon among
> the new generation.
>
>   Perhaps the best thing which could happen for the Canon is for a
master
> writer like A.C.D to write a series of spectacular pastiches on
Holmes (not just
> one, but a collection) which sells so well that the character is
revived in
> general popular imagination. But I wonder if it will ever happen
that a writer
> of A.C.D's caliber would emerge anytime or whether there the publishers
> perceive any actual market to support such an effort, even if that
unlikely
> event happens.
>
>      The Canon will definitely survive the years, and will always
have a strong
> loyal following such as us, but as years go on, it is going to be a
> more and more
> niche following.
>
> Regarde
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:24 AM, sridhar C <cs_gollum@...> wrote:
> > Dear Holmesians,
> >
> >   I guess the very fact that there are so many fans of Sherlock
Holmes already existing all over the world and that we acknowledge him
as "the Master" sleuth proves that he has a tremendous fan base
already existing. Also the fact that pastiches are still being written
across the globe regarding his adventures and still being read by
millions. Children dig mysteries (at least the ones I knew in my
childhood did!), so I don't think it will take much for Holmes to
become a household name.
> >
> >
> >   Sridhar
> >
> >
> >  sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> >           Dear Holmesians,
> >  Will the Master be able to engage the attention of this generation
> >  which is obssessed with Harry Potter? Can he work his magic as he did
> >  to all the preceding generations including us?
> >  Sumalsn
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> --
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>
I think canon doyle is still famous for sherlock as well as as his
other works such as the "Lost World".But your point is good one but i
would like to state that Harry potter is for a age group of 10-15
while adults like us like to read sometimes to read Harry Potter but
we are sure to get bored with it as it is not having any mental
stimulation to it so we are attracted to conan and sherlock and i
think you can read sherlock whatever age you have it gives you a
mental stimulus which Harry Potter never can.

Hi

    A character like Sherlock Holmes is never going to go entirely out
of the general
public memory for many years to come. Still the fact is that the
character is now
more than a century old, and he is one of the relics of the Victorian
era. You cannot
think of Holmes and Watson without thinking about Victorian England.

  The stories of Holmes still hold fascination to many people. The way
the stories
are crafted, enthusiasts of detective fiction always find something
new even after
reading the stories many times. That is a feature of classics such as the Canon.
In that way Holmes is unique and irreplacable.

   Still the point raised by Sumal was how much the current and new generation is
going to read and get inspired by the Canon. It is more of a question
of exposure
to it, rather than getting inspired by it after reading it. I can
surely imagine my
son reading the "Hound" end to end with tremendous interest. The fact is that
with today's literature and reading closely tied to cinema and
multimedia in general,
young generation are more likely to get exposed to and attracted by popular
culture heroes such as Harry Potter or a Spiderman.

  The Canon is no light reading. It takes some serious effort and interest to
read the stories, understand them and appreciate them. I remember that my first
Canon story was titled "The Yellow Face". It was a Malayalam translation of
5 selected short stories from the Canon, one of which was the "The Yellow Face".
The book was won as a prize by my elder brother for some competition in school.
I devoured every word of it, got inspired and then made all efforts to
get stories
from the Canon. Since those days parents did not have enough money to afford
extra books, I made to do with borrowings mostly from the school library which
contained almost the entire collection.

  With a stretch of imagination, is it possible that a school today
will give away
such a book as prize to a student ? They are more likely to give away a Harry
Potter or such.

  In the future, a Sherlockian is going to be more and more of a rare creature,
unless societies such as ours do something to popularize the Canon among
the new generation.

   Perhaps the best thing which could happen for the Canon is for a master
writer like A.C.D to write a series of spectacular pastiches on Holmes (not just
one, but a collection) which sells so well that the character is revived in
general popular imagination. But I wonder if it will ever happen that a writer
of A.C.D's caliber would emerge anytime or whether there the publishers
perceive any actual market to support such an effort, even if that unlikely
event happens.

      The Canon will definitely survive the years, and will always have a strong
loyal following such as us, but as years go on, it is going to be a
more and more
niche following.

Regarde



On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:24 AM, sridhar C <cs_gollum@...> wrote:
> Dear Holmesians,
>
>   I guess the very fact that there are so many fans of Sherlock Holmes already
existing all over the world and that we acknowledge him as "the Master" sleuth
proves that he has a tremendous fan base already existing. Also the fact that
pastiches are still being written across the globe regarding his adventures and
still being read by millions. Children dig mysteries (at least the ones I knew
in my childhood did!), so I don't think it will take much for Holmes to become a
household name.
>
>
>   Sridhar
>
>
>  sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
>           Dear Holmesians,
>  Will the Master be able to engage the attention of this generation
>  which is obssessed with Harry Potter? Can he work his magic as he did
>  to all the preceding generations including us?
>  Sumalsn
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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>



--
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Dear Holmesians,

   I guess the very fact that there are so many fans of Sherlock Holmes already
existing all over the world and that we acknowledge him as "the Master" sleuth
proves that he has a tremendous fan base already existing. Also the fact that
pastiches are still being written across the globe regarding his adventures and
still being read by millions. Children dig mysteries (at least the ones I knew
in my childhood did!), so I don't think it will take much for Holmes to become a
household name.


   Sridhar

sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
           Dear Holmesians,
Will the Master be able to engage the attention of this generation
which is obssessed with Harry Potter? Can he work his magic as he did
to all the preceding generations including us?
Sumalsn





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Dear Holmesians,
Will the Master be able to engage the attention of this generation
which is obssessed with Harry Potter? Can he work his magic as he did
to all the preceding generations including us?
Sumalsn

Dear Anand and Holmesians,
I think even the names of those Charles augustus milverton had
blackmailed may come out!
Sumalsn

Hi Sherlockians,

The other night I was reading "Problem of Thor Bridge" before going to bed .
It starts with a reminiscence of old cases and a mention of the tin-dispatch box
  containing records of cases where Watson collaborated with Holmes.

"Somewhere in the vaults of the bank of Cox and Co., at Charing Cross,
there is a travel-worn and battered tin dispatchbox with my name, John
H. Watson, M. D., Late Indian Army, painted upon the lid. It is
crammed with papers, nearly all of which are records of cases to
illustrate the curious problems which Mr. Sherlock Holmes had at
various times to examine. Some, and not the least interesting, were
complete failures, and as such will hardly bear narrating, since no
final explanation is forthcoming. A problem without a solution may
interest the student, but can hardly fail to annoy the casual reader.
Among these unfinished tales is that of Mr. James Phillimore, who,
stepping back into his own house to get his umbrella, was never more
seen in this world. No less remarkable is that of the cutter Alicia,
which sailed one spring morning into a small patch of mist from where
she never again emerged, nor was anything further ever heard of
herself and her crew. A third case worthy of note is that of Isadora
Persano, the well-known journalist and duellist, who was found stark
staring mad with a match box in front of him which contained a
remarkable worm said to be unknown to science. Apart from these
unfathomed cases, there are some which involve the secrets of private
families to an extent which would mean consternation in many exalted
quarters if it were thought possible that they might find their way
into print. I need not say that such a breach of confidence is
unthinkable, and that these records will be separated and destroyed
now that my friend has time to turn his energies to the matter...."

This led me to think... What if the tin-dispatch box was ever stolen
from the bank ?
Which families it might implicate ? Since Holmes was entrusted with
secrets (sometimes
classified state secrets as in cases of "Second Stain" etc), the box
might have been
an object of attraction for political burglars/spies employed by enemy
states since
it could  have been used as a weapon for blackmail or to extract
political mileage
or even for espionage.

I wonder why A.C.D never thought about writing a story where the box or select
papers contained within it was stolen under high drama ? Won't it have made for
some excellent reading ? Just imagine details of cases like "Second Stain" or
"Illustrious Client" or "Scandal in Bohemia" coming out before they
were intended
to be published ?

Has any of the pastiche authors written any story with this theme ? I could not
help thinking that if written, this would be perhaps result in a
brilliant Sherlockian
pastiche.

Anyone for it :)  ?

Regards

--Anand