The Speckled Band has a baboon mentioned in passing... but not central to the
story

There was another adventure in which a gypsy used a trained baboon to break into
houses (or was it a chimpanzee?)


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Tim Symonds <tim.symonds@...> wrote:
From: Tim Symonds <tim.symonds@...>
Subject: RE: [sherlock holmes society of india] You think you are A Sherlockian?
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:07 AM











             Dear Sumal, if there is a chance you might start to build a small
library of

Sherlock Holmes' books and other memorabilia, I will be happy to contribute

and post to you a very entertaining book titled 'The Pictorial History of

Sherlock Holmes', by Michael Pointer, published by WHSmith in 1991 (ISBN

0-86124 -854-6, printed in Hong Kong.



Just let me know, with an address to send it to.



Separately, a question: in which story does Conan Doyle introduce a baboon

and mistakenly locate it in India where there are no baboons?



Tim



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From: SherlockHolmesSocie tyofIndia@ yahoogroups. co.in

[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocie tyofIndia@ yahoogroups. co.in] On Behalf Of sumalsn

Sent: 19 January 2009 09:51

To: SherlockHolmesSocie tyofIndia@ yahoogroups. co.in

Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] You think you are A

Sherlockian?



Dear Anand and Holmesians,

Great Going,Anand. You have always been a great Holmesian.Welcome back

too!

Sumalsn



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Dear Sumal, if there is a chance you might start to build a small library of
Sherlock Holmes' books and other memorabilia, I will be happy to contribute
and post to you a very entertaining book titled 'The Pictorial History of
Sherlock Holmes', by Michael Pointer, published by WHSmith in 1991 (ISBN
0-86124 -854-6, printed in Hong Kong.



Just let me know, with an address to send it to.



Separately, a question: in which story does Conan Doyle introduce a baboon
and mistakenly locate it in India where there are no baboons?



Tim

   _____

From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
[mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of sumalsn
Sent: 19 January 2009 09:51
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] You think you are A
Sherlockian?



Dear Anand and Holmesians,
Great Going,Anand. You have always been a great Holmesian.Welcome back
too!
Sumalsn





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Dear Anand and Holmesians,
Great Going,Anand. You have always been a great Holmesian.Welcome back
too!
Sumalsn

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Dear Holmesians,
>  A test of how well you know your canon!.Follow this link.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/7907/holmesquiz.html

80% without googling or other help. Does that make me a Sherlockian ? :)

> Sumalsn
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



--
-Anand

There' a Holmes entry on my blog -
http://tainted-archive.blogspot.com/2009/01/observer-crime.html

You'll also find info there about my debut novel in June

GARY M. DOBBS




To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
From: abpillai@...
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:35:58 +0530
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] Re: CHARLES AUGUSTUS MILVERTON




















             It is also one of the stories where Holmes displays his

skills more suited to the other side of the law and almost

gets caught in the process...



On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:

> Dear Douglas and Holmesians,

> Welcome aboard, Douglas.I quite agree. CAM is the adventure in which

> Watson shows his affection towards  Holmes to the extent that he is

> ready to risk prosecution for him. Holmes gets engaged also,a cruel

> act to further his access in CAMs house.

> sumalsn

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>



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It is also one of the stories where Holmes displays his
skills more suited to the other side of the law and almost
gets caught in the process...

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Dear Douglas and Holmesians,
> Welcome aboard, Douglas.I quite agree. CAM is the adventure in which
> Watson shows his affection towards  Holmes to the extent that he is
> ready to risk prosecution for him. Holmes gets engaged also,a cruel
> act to further his access in CAMs house.
> sumalsn
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



--
-Anand

Hi Sherlockians,

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jinesh Balakrishnan <jineshb@...> wrote:
> Hi All,
> My two-bits on this topic (and apologies if I offend your sensibilities)...
>
> What I found in Agatha Christie's writing is that all the clues are laid out
bare, and if we read it carefully, we can actually draw conclusions and solve
the mystery ourselves - with our limited intelligences and even more limited
knowledge of English literature.
>
> Whereas in the Sherlock Holmes stories, the clues are there, but it is "one
level removed", and there is some specific technical knowledge that is needed to
make the connection.  Since we are following it from Dr.Watson's viewpoint (and
he is a layman in detecting areas, and does NOT have the breadth of knowledge of
the Master), we cannot make the connection.  So Holmes remains one level above
the audience, always.
> Classic example is:  "the curious incident of the dog in the night-time" from
the "Silver Blaze"
>                But, says Colonel Ross, "The dog did nothing in the
night-time."
>                "That," said Holmes, "was the curious incident."Even though
this is pointed out as the clue, we cant decipher it without indepth knowledge.
>
> This of course adds to the mystique of the Holmes stories, but the reader
always has to be "lead" to the solution via Holmes's explanations.
>
> So which is better?  For sheer breadth of imagination, the Master is
unchallenged.  But for systematic deduction (in an interactive manner),
Poirot/Christie seems to have an upper hand.

My own observations are similar. I always thought of Poirot as a "ladies
man", a competent, but a somewhat pompous and self conscious
man, trying to be too prim and proper with respect to his dress and
the way he looks. But I have never given Agatha Christie's work.
the same respect as that of Doyle's. To me her works appear to
be "Coffee table detective fiction" as opposed to the sheer mastery
of Doyle's works.

I consider "Murder on the Orient Express" to be one of her better
and interesting work. It is a case where there is a murder on a
train and everyone in the train is actually involved in it. Poirot
seem to spend too much time analyzing the frills of ladies
dresses and expressions of men than in looking at the actual
evidence and clearing the crime. The crime is solved at the end,
but I had the feeling that Holmes would have solved it in
half the time, thereby making the Novel a short story!

The apparent irony as someone pointed out is that the
evidence is all there, laid threadbare for you the reader,
so if you are smart enough to follow the threads, you
can solve the crime before Poirot does.  Whereas the Canon
stories are actually told in second person (from the view
point of Watson), the Poirot stories are in third person,
where the reader is brought more closer to the crime
and hence has more information and freedom in
making his deductions.

The style of story telling in the Canon where it is from
the point of view of Watson who is perpetually kept in the
dark, with the reader, makes them more compulsive
reading and increases the mystery element.

However it is important to note that some of the classics
of the Canon ("The Hound") has Watson playing a more
lead role than Holmes, but still manages to hang on to
the mystery till the end and even afterwards. So the
quality of the Canon is not just due to its unique
way of presenting the stories, but also in the way
Doyle develops his characters and builds the story.

>
> Regards,
> Jinesh
>

Regards

--Anand

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Tim Symonds
<tim.symonds@...> wrote:
> Dear Sumal, it would be great if you might prepare a series of talks on the
> Canon and why you and the Society are so keen on Conan Doyle's work.  This
> series could be offered to India's radio stations and would definitely
> enthuse listeners and possibly increase membership substantially.

As always this is a great suggestion by Tim. I think we should discuss
some of the more creative suggestions by Tim and see how they
can be pursued.

As regards to discussions on the Canon, my "canon fire" was re-lit
by that link on the Hound. Perhaps we can have more discussions on
interesting by hidden sub-plots in the stories and novels on the Canon ?
My belief is that the Hound itself has numerous sub-plots worthy
of discussion.

>
>
>
> Any thoughts!
>
>
>
> As always
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>  _____
>
> From: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
> [mailto:SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...] On Behalf Of sumalsn
> Sent: 27 December 2008 15:29
> To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
> Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] The year that was
>
>
>
> Dear Holmesians,
> I suppose this year 2008 was a very mediocre year for our society since
> the participation level had gone down drastically. I think the sole
> high point of this year was the publication of Dr Pinaki's book. I hope
> 2009 would be a very productive year with Guy Ritchie's movie to look
> forward to
> Sumalsn
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



--
-Anand

Hi Sherlockians,

   It is no wonder that the Hound is one of the Victorian era
classics that is still being studied by scholars even to this
day. The Hound is one of the most unique of detective
thrillers. It features the unique combination of,

   1. An inhuman, almost diabolic criminal agent.
   2. A unique setting featuring the irresistible "Return of the heir" theme.
   3. A unique set of characters, all appearing to be involved
       and detached from the crime at the same time.
   4. A crime investigation where the principal investigator is absent
       from the scene.
   5. Where the investigator makes an anonymous entry to the scene
      and is almost mistaken for the criminal himself ("Man on the Tor").
   6. Where the investigator seems to make so many mistakes
       one after the other, but still manages to keep track of the crime thread.
   7. Where the actual criminal agent at first appears as the innocent
      neighbour.
   8. Where the sister turns out to be actually the wife.
   9. Where two women are exploited for their connivance in the crime,
       one by fear, the other by both love and fear and assurances of security.
  10. Where an old fairy tale actually turns out to be horror in the
present tense
        and the victim almost puts himself to death while others applaud.

In fact, the story is amazing with its unique plot and the
characters involved. It has so many twists and turns and
examples of human cunning and vile.

But one aspect which have never occurred to me is the
apparent mistakes by Holmes. Indeed there are quite many of them,
and this article highlights them so as to question the final
deduction by the Master.

Also, it seems correct that Doyle had purposely presented Holmes
  in such poor light in the story by making him absent from the scene
for long, making him appear as part of the evil forces ("Man on the Tor"),
making him look stupid (Holmes dancing and jumping around after
discovering that the dead body was Selden's, not that of the Baskerville),
and making him look plotting and cruel (by asking Sir Henry to walk the path
from Stapleton's house back to Baskervile Hall) and finally making
him look incompetent and flippant because he fails to catch the
criminal and can't answer Dr. Watson's question to the motive - "I fear
you ask too much  when you expect me to solve it. The past and the
present are within the field of my inquiry, but what a man may do in
the future is a hard question to answer".

So, the question is did Doyle have a subplot in the story which
has not been unraveled so far ? Did he purposefully make Holmes
look incompetent because as the Bayard claims, he disliked bringing
Holmes back from the dead and was taking "revenge" upon the
character he created ?

It is a very fascinating angle. Even if we never find answer to that
question, it further cements the place of the "Hound" as the most
intriguing and thrilling detective novel ever written so far, and
perhaps the only one which still remains unsolved.

Thanks a lot for the link. It is something not to be missed.

--Anand

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:41 AM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Dear Holmesians,
>  Read this very interesting link.
> http://calitreview.com/1799
> Discuss, please!
> Sumalsn
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



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-Anand

Hi Sumal,

      I think it is important to discuss the suggestions given by
Tim and James in more detail to see where it leads to.

     I recently joined a local book society in Bangalore, where
occasionally they bring in teachers from schools who narrate
stories to kids (ranging from ages 6-12) from classics, and also
from the recently popular series like the Harry Potter. These
sessions are short (1-2) hours and pre-announced so parents
can drop in with their kids on the announced dates and be
part of the activity.

     I could envision a similar activity for stories in the Cannon,
where kids (I guess more boys than girls are attracted to the
Canon) would listen to select stories from the Canon and perhaps
take part in play acting some of them. Of course, many stories
in the Canon are violent and has elements of crime, so the story
telling should be for kids above a certain age, say those attending
high school (ages 11 and up) in India.

  As the other two members mentioned, a special interest
society like this is in the danger of running out of ideas to
discuss and we perhaps need more than just digital bytes
to carry us in to the next decade.

Wishing everyone a very belated new year 2009...

Regards,

--Anand

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Dear James and Holmesians,
> I could'nt agree with you more.However, I think it is also because
> activity in a group seems to be confined to a select few and is not as
> broad based as it should be.Fresh minds can bring in better ideas
> which can be discussed by all.
> Sumalsn
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



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-Anand

Dear Fellow Members,

In regard to the interesting message about a physical location
possibility for the SHSI.

Where would it be?  Agra, Trichy,  Pondicherry?  Chennai?

Rental? Purchase?  Cost?  Size?

A sponsor?  or contributions?  A Fundraiser?

A money generating scheme, a group effort for a book? magazine?

Sell advertising ?

Many possibilities.....

If you are serious, then let us narrow it down to something realistic
and attainable.

Personally, I like the idea and I think it can be done, however it
will take planning and co ordination and some elbow grease.

I am keen to follow this idea and see where it goes.

Best wishes to all.

James27Word

Dear Pinaki and Holmesians,
I agree . We should think beyond being merely an internet group.I
propose that we have a convention in near future and try to get
enough media coverage also. A good way  to start would be to get
ourselves covered by Times of India who cover unusual groups every
sunday.
Sumalsn

--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@..., sumalsn
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Douglas and Holmesians,
> I am happy to see that you like this site. This society has been
> successful because  of members like you, who have contributed their
> time and knowledge to further the Canonical knowledge. Keep posting
> Sumalsn
>

Dear Sumalsn,

Thanks so much for your kind comments, and yes, I certainly will keep
posting comments to this great site.

Kindest Regards,
Douglas Paul

Toowoomba
Queensland
Australia

Dear Douglas and Holmesians,
I am happy to see that you like this site. This society has been
successful because  of members like you, who have contributed their
time and knowledge to further the Canonical knowledge. Keep posting
Sumalsn

Dear Sherlockians,
 
It is a great news that the members of our society are increasing day by day.
But, sadly, we are yet largely an internet-group. I have appealed to you before
too...and now I repeat, do not you think it is high time that we had an office
or something like that or at least a congregational place? What do the other
Sherlockians have to say about this?
 
Do we not need to write about it in newspapers, journals or magazines?
 
Also, for your kind information, my book, "The Manichean Investigators: A
Post-colonial and Cultural Rereading of the Sherlock Holmes and Byomkesh Bakshi
Stories" (New Delhi: Sarup and Sons, 2008), has become available on net - at
Googlebooks.
 
Pinaki Roy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From:
 
Pinaki Roy, Ph.D.,
Lecturer in English,
Malda College,
Rabindra Avenue, Rathbari More,
Post Office + District: Malda - 732 101,
West Bengal, India




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Dear Fellow Sherlock Holmes fans on the Sherlock Holmes Society of
India,

I have only very recently joined this site and I think it's just
brilliant. Already I've had some great replies to the couple of
messages I've posted and I thank you very much.

The Brain Power of the Sherlock Holmes fans on this site is
phenomenal and I believe that we must keep this brilliant site going
indefinitely.

If there's anything that I can do to help keep this wonderful site
going, please let me know.

This is the best Sherlock Holmes discussion site that I've seen on
the Internet, having look at numerous Sherlock Holmes sites from all
over the world.

Congratulations to the creators, moderators and members of this site,
of which I feel very honoured to be in, and keep up the great work.

It really is a great relief to find, and be part of, such a brilliant
Sherlock Holmes discussion site as this.

Take care.

Kindest Regards,

Most Sincerely,
Douglas Paul

Toowoomba
Queensland
Australia

For me, CAM is special because this is one of the best illustrations where
even the cold, logical self of Holmes gives precedence to some sort of
emotional layers - acknowledging that there's some sort of stuff
(blackmailing) which fall outside of his "moral code".Nikhil



On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:

> Dear Douglas and Holmesians,
> Welcome aboard, Douglas.I quite agree. CAM is the adventure in which
> Watson shows his affection towards  Holmes to the extent that he is
> ready to risk prosecution for him. Holmes gets engaged also,a cruel
> act to further his access in CAMs house.
> sumalsn
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Dear Douglas and Holmesians,
Welcome aboard, Douglas.I quite agree. CAM is the adventure in which
Watson shows his affection towards  Holmes to the extent that he is
ready to risk prosecution for him. Holmes gets engaged also,a cruel
act to further his access in CAMs house.
sumalsn

I believe that the story Charles Augustus Milverton is one of the
best Sherlock Holmes stories that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote.
Although not an enourmous amount of actual Detective work occurs, and
although the plot is not a complex one, I found the characterisation
and the storytelling technique to be most engaging. It's also good,
too, of course, to see such a nasty character as Charles Milverton
get his just desserts.

Did anyone see the 1992 Granada Television movie length version of
this story, called THE MASTER BLACKMAILER, starring Robert Hardy as
Charles Augustus Milverton and the late, great Jeremy Brett as
Sherlock Holmes?

If so, what did you think of this television production compared to
the original Conan Doyle story?

Personally, I thought that Jeremy Brett and Robert Hardy were just
brilliant!!!!!

I look forward to any discussion on this matter.

Kind Regards,
Douglas Paul

Australia

And a belated New Year 2009 wishes to all from me.
 
 
Sridhar


--- On Thu, 1/1/09, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:

From: sumalsn <no_reply@...>
Subject: Re: [sherlock holmes society of india] The year that will be
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 10:16 PM






Dear Holmesians,
Here's wishing all of you a very happy new year!
sumalsn


















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Hello Douglas,

Welcome. We're all looking forward to exchange our knowledge. If you
have any thoughts about Holmesian studies, post them.

--- In SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...,
"douglas.paul69" <bunnybats@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fellow Sherlock Holmes Fans.
>
> I feel honoured to be part of THE SHERLOCK HOLMES SOCIETY OF INDIA.
>
> I look forward to having some good discussions about Sherlock
Holmes.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Douglas Paul
>
> Toowoomba
> Queensland
> Australia
>

Hello Fellow Sherlock Holmes Fans.

I feel honoured to be part of THE SHERLOCK HOLMES SOCIETY OF INDIA.

I look forward to having some good discussions about Sherlock Holmes.

Kind Regards,

Douglas Paul

Toowoomba
Queensland
Australia

check out this Holmes influenced western

http://tainted-archive.blogspot.com/2009/01/wild-west-news-roundup.html

GARY M. DOBBS



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Hi All,
My two-bits on this topic (and apologies if I offend your sensibilities)...

What I found in Agatha Christie's writing is that all the clues are laid out
bare, and if we read it carefully, we can actually draw conclusions and solve
the mystery ourselves - with our limited intelligences and even more limited
knowledge of English literature.

Whereas in the Sherlock Holmes stories, the clues are there, but it is "one
level removed", and there is some specific technical knowledge that is needed to
make the connection.  Since we are following it from Dr.Watson's viewpoint (and
he is a layman in detecting areas, and does NOT have the breadth of knowledge of
the Master), we cannot make the connection.  So Holmes remains one level above
the audience, always. 
Classic example is:  "the curious incident of the dog in the night-time" from
the "Silver Blaze"
               But, says Colonel Ross, "The dog did nothing in the night-time."
               "That," said Holmes, "was the curious incident."Even though this
is pointed out as the clue, we cant decipher it without indepth knowledge.

This of course adds to the mystique of the Holmes stories, but the reader always
has to be "lead" to the solution via Holmes's explanations.

So which is better?  For sheer breadth of imagination, the Master is
unchallenged.  But for systematic deduction (in an interactive manner),
Poirot/Christie seems to have an upper hand.

Regards,
Jinesh

--- On Sun, 1/4/09, salvadesswaran_ps <salvadesswaran_ps@...> wrote:
From: salvadesswaran_ps <salvadesswaran_ps@...>
Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] Re: Sherlock Holmes Vs Hercule
Poirot
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:42 PM











             I too have read Agatha Christie a lot. Her works are quite
intriguing,

but when it somes to characters, even her own Miss Marple and Tom and

Tuppence, the secret adversary pair are better than Hercule Poirot.

And he's no competition for Holmes. He simply does not appeal to one's

senses as a detective, but maybe he's a little too showy as you said.

When it comes to the kind of thinking and theorising that is needed

for any detective, fictional or real life, Holmes possesses in

abundance. Also he seems to have uncanny knowledge of many things such

as chemicals, tobacco stains and ash, and music. These make him a lot

more appealing to my senses and those of may people the world over.

So my verdict: Holmes wins hands down over all of Christie's

characters combined.





























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I too have read Agatha Christie a lot. Her works are quite intriguing,
but when it somes to characters, even her own Miss Marple and Tom and
Tuppence, the secret adversary pair are better than Hercule Poirot.
And he's no competition for Holmes. He simply does not appeal to one's
senses as a detective, but maybe he's a little too showy as you said.
When it comes to the kind of thinking and theorising that is needed
for any detective, fictional or real life, Holmes possesses in
abundance. Also he seems to have uncanny knowledge of many things such
as chemicals, tobacco stains and ash, and music. These make him a lot
more appealing to my senses and those of may people the world over.
So my verdict: Holmes wins hands down over all of Christie's
characters combined.

Guys please post views regarding who is better is it Poirot or
Holmes.I read recently Poirot and was quite impressed by this
detective but he has his own ways but he is to pompous.But what do you
think guys?Please post.

To All Members SHSI

I wish all of you the best fortune in this new year.

   Although I have not posted in awhile, I do certainly read the latest

posts here.

  Sherlock wrong ?   I hope not !      Although.....well......sometimes
he is not exactly right......he is never wrong.


   A thoughtful reminder from Twain..........on his observation of a
gunfight victim in the Old West.........

   except for being dead, the man was in remarkably good condition.....


Sincerely

James27Word

I saw the following on-line.  Perhaps the Society's HQ in India might start
up a lending library for schools and others?:




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Dear Holmesians,
Here's wishing all of you a very happy new year!
sumalsn

I would like to take this opportunity to wish all us Holmesians a Prosperous
and Happy New Year 2009. Here's to a more productive year with more new and
actively participating members.
 
 
Sridhar

--- On Sat, 12/27/08, sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:

From: sumalsn <no_reply@...>
Subject: [sherlock holmes society of india] The year that was
To: SherlockHolmesSocietyofIndia@...
Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 8:58 PM






Dear Holmesians,
I suppose this year 2008 was a very mediocre year for our society since
the participation level had gone down drastically. I think the sole
high point of this year was the publication of Dr Pinaki's book. I hope
2009 would be a very productive year with Guy Ritchie's movie to look
forward to
Sumalsn


















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