Dear Sherlockians,
I am thrilled to see such a fantastic response to S achin's idea. I
will prepare my Sherlockian CV in a day or two. Keep the postman busy
sumal
I think this particular point has been discussed before.
Anyway...Houdini and ACD were great friends. They both attended many seances and
shared an interest in spiritualism. Doyle and his wife even went so far as to
hold a seance for Houdini and his wife Bess. The purpose of the seance was to
contact Houdini's dead mother. Doyle's wife claimed to have made contact, but
Houdini remained skeptical. The incident put a strain on their friendship.
They were to battle again over the Margery case. Sir Doyle was absolutely
convinced that the medium from Boston was genuine. Houdini was called in to
investigate the Margery case and soon Doyle and Houdini were exchanging angry
words in the press.
Conan Doyle was faced, with his friend Houdini, with a conjurer who could
duplicate the psychic feats of mediums. His response was not to disbelieve in
the mediums, but to attribute supernatural powers to the conjurer. "My dear
chap," Doyle wrote, "why go round the world seeking a demonstration of the
occult (Houdini visited all the famous mediums when he toured Europe) when you
are giving one all the time? Mrs. Guppy (a well-known and hugely fat medium who
was reported to have traveled by telekinesis from Highbury to Bloomsbury) could
dematerialize, and so could many folk in Holy Writ, and I do honestly believe
that you can also."
Houdini was religiously conservative, even disowning one of his brothers for
violating one of Leviticus's sectarian taboos (218-219). And when he testified
before a Congressional committee in support of an anti-fortune-telling bill, he
said:
This is positively no attack upon a religion. Please understand that
emphatically. I am not attacking a religion. . . . But this thing they call
'spiritualism,' wherein a medium intercommunicates with the dead, is a fraud
from start to finish. There are only two kinds of mediums, those who are mental
degenerates and who ought to be under observation, and those who are deliberate
cheats and frauds. I would not believe a fraudulent medium under oath; perjury
means nothing to them. . . . Millions of dollars are stolen every year in
America, and the Government [has] never paid any attention to it, because they
look upon it as a religion.
Even after Houdini's death, in a letter to Bess Houdini, Doyle reiterated his
stubborn conviction that Houdini possessed the very powers he devoted his life
to refuting, including an ability to dematerialize his body in order to pass
through solid walls (225). In doing so, he foreshadowed the parapsychologists at
George Washington University, St. Louis, who, after James Randi's "Project
Alpha" had exposed their gullibility by having them pronounce the illusions of
two youthful conjurers as genuine psychic phenomena, actually asserted that
Randi's associates really were psychics who for some reason were now pretending
to be magicians.
Manraviel
Jinesh Balakrishnan <jineshb@...> wrote:Hi Sumal,
I did some searching on Sir Arthur and spiritualism,
and got some interesting articles - refer
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/doyle.htm and
http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/doyle.htm - unfortunately
they are not very flattering on ACD
Members would definitely be aware of ACD's involvement
in the "Piltdown man" case.
Another strange thing was that ACD was friends with
Houdini the master illusionist. Their personalities
seemed to be very different - even within themselves.
ACD's main creation, The Master, used pure logic to
solve his mysteries, whereas ACD himself believed in
Spiritualism! Similarly (or contraririly) Houdini
performed the most amazing magic tricks (illusions),
but spent his life exposing fraudulent spiritualists!
Opposites attact, right?
The other thing about ACD and Houdini were some story
I had read a long time back, about a rift in their
friendship. It seems they had a bet about one of
Houdini's illusions, whether he would be able to
perform it (ACD saying he would not complete). During
the illusion (which I think involved getting locked
into a box and being dropped in the ocean), Houdini
heard some tappings once he got inside the box. So he
came out - but no-one admitted to rapping on it! This
got repeated multiple times, till he called it off -
but be blamed Sir Arthur for causing the noises (even
though he was nowhere near) So was it a real ghost
event??? who knows??? (but I would be interested if
anyone else had read this story - my memory is too bad
- after 50, everything goes downhill)
Regards,
Jinesh
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A light from the shadows shall spring
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Hi Sumal,
I did some searching on Sir Arthur and spiritualism,
and got some interesting articles - refer
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/doyle.htm and
http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/doyle.htm - unfortunately
they are not very flattering on ACD
Members would definitely be aware of ACD's involvement
in the "Piltdown man" case.
Another strange thing was that ACD was friends with
Houdini the master illusionist. Their personalities
seemed to be very different - even within themselves.
ACD's main creation, The Master, used pure logic to
solve his mysteries, whereas ACD himself believed in
Spiritualism! Similarly (or contraririly) Houdini
performed the most amazing magic tricks (illusions),
but spent his life exposing fraudulent spiritualists!
Opposites attact, right?
The other thing about ACD and Houdini were some story
I had read a long time back, about a rift in their
friendship. It seems they had a bet about one of
Houdini's illusions, whether he would be able to
perform it (ACD saying he would not complete). During
the illusion (which I think involved getting locked
into a box and being dropped in the ocean), Houdini
heard some tappings once he got inside the box. So he
came out - but no-one admitted to rapping on it! This
got repeated multiple times, till he called it off -
but be blamed Sir Arthur for causing the noises (even
though he was nowhere near) So was it a real ghost
event??? who knows??? (but I would be interested if
anyone else had read this story - my memory is too bad
- after 50, everything goes downhill)
Regards,
Jinesh
--- sumalsn <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Hi ,
> Continuing my researches to obtain an insight in to
> the personality
> of Sir Conan Doyle, I stumbled upon another strange
> aspect of his
> personality which I think most of us are familiar
> with. I am
> referring to the strange affair of the Cottingley
> fairies. It so
> happened that two girls related to each other,
> Frances Griffith and
> Elsie Wright living in Cottingley, Yorkshire
> produced stunning
> photographs of fairies playing with them.
>
> The photos showed the fairies dancing with the
> children and
> they were shown to their parents to authenticate
> their claim. These
> photos were certified to be authentic by the local
> experts and these
> photos were doing the rounds of upper class British
> Society. It
> caught the attention of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle who
> seized the
> opportunity to proclaim the reality of the existence
> of fairies. He
> being a passionate believer in spiritualism and so
> argued his thought
> regarding the photos in the Strand magazine in 1920.
> He again
> published an article on receipt of two more photo
> graphs from the
> girls.
>
> He was pilloried in the media for advocating such
> absurd ideas but he
> continued to believe in the photographs till his
> death.
>
> I think he was a man of great conviction to have
> said such a thing
> in face of such outcry and to stick to his guns
> despite personal
> attack needs some courage. Such conviction in spite
> of counter
> arguments can be seen in his creation, Sherlock
> Holmes many times.
> The most striking instance can be seen in the
> Adventure of the
> Norwood Builder. As a matter of conjecture, I think
> Sherlock Holmes
> is partly based on Sir Doyle himself apart from Dr
> Joseph Bell, of
> course. Please flood in your comments. I hope to
> see an interesting
> discussion on this
>
>
>
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Hello Mihir
I am going out looking to buy some classics this
weekend in Bangalore. I shall mostly go to Gangarams,
Higgin Bothams and the National Book House and one or
two more book shops.
Do you want me to look for this book here?
Let me know.
-Anand
--- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., Mihir Lochan
Saran <pbphpatna@v...> wrote:
>
> Dear Sherlockian Friends,
> I have asked this question earlier to this group also but was not
responded. Hence , again I am asking this to you all.
> Can anybody of you tell me where can I get " THE LIFE OF SIR ARTHUR
CONAN DOYLE" written by JOHN DICKSON CARR.
> I have tried out for this title in nearly all the bookshops in
> DELHI,NOIDA,CALCUTTA (KOLKATA),PATNA ,LUCKNOW,RANCHI,SURAT and BOMBAY
> (MUMBAI )but failed to get this. I have even tried out the second
> hand book markets in Flora Fountain (Mumbai) , College Street
> (Kolkata),Darya ganj(Delhi) and Pustak Path (Ranchi) ,Apna Bazar
> (Patna)and Aminabad (Lucknow)but failed in getting even a glimpse of
> it.
> I shall be highly obliged if any of you can tell me any source where
> I can get it from (in India).
> -Regards,
>
> Mihir Lochan Saran
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So jinesh, in a sense you are closest to the master
than all the other members of this club!
If there is anybody else who is in London, he/she
could also post his/her experiences in this matter.
I have something in common with you and Sumal in that
I am also a mallu. I have been in Bangalore for some
time so I consider myself more of a 'southie' than
a mallu.
I got to admit that I was surprised that Dr.Watson is
a female. I was not able to crack that one.
Well, one could argue that you have been helped
by the actual facts posted here rather than them
being the products of pure reasoning, but it is
could be debatable. Deduction without the facts
is more believable than the one with them, though
your comments sound more like retrospective
introspection.
We, or at least I am looking forward to your
experiences in the Great Detective's Original
Alley. (GOA).
-Anand
--- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., Jinesh
Balakrishnan <jineshb@y...> wrote:
> Hello fellow Sherlockians,
>
> I had been a member of this group for the last year or
> so - a sleeping member, which basically is what I do
> best.
>
> The recent idea by Sachin for introducing the members
> was good, but it had a slight drawback - I think I
> lost a sense of mystery about the group. Earlier, it
> used to have a sense of secrecy - like a group of
> cloaked and hooded members meeting in shady corners,
> with no-one seeing the face of the other, referring to
> each other by code names (well, the internet IS a
> shady corner, and the nicknames are pretty mysterious
> ;-) - let me have my romantic moments). I used to go
> through the various postings with great interest, and
> try to figure out the background of the members. I
> had figured that Anand was in software (mainly because
> of the technical details in his posts) and that
> Dr.Watson was female (a much earlier post mentioned
> something about Harry Potter and had female
> connotations). And that Sumal is a fundu guy, based
> in Coimbatore but basically Mallu, with a Law degree
> (this was cunningly worked out based on a syntax
> analysis of his writing, noting his penchant for
> getting others to write, and the fact that he is my
> cousin ;-). Now we know who we are ... but maybe
> secrecy was better??
>
> The main reason I came awake was the interest of the
> group in visiting the Sherlock Holmes museum at 221
> Baker Street. I have been working at 67 Baker Street
> for the last 8 months, and never ever got the time to
> visit the museum. I had been planning a very long
> time to visit, and write it up for the group. Well, I
> think I need to do that pretty soon. So hopefully I
> will be able to get some details of the current
> layout. I had walked past the doors early one morning
> (when it was shut) and the main thing I noted was a
> small notice in the window "Police Notice: Looking for
> any information about the brutal killing of a woman
> near this door... dated 1888". They really know how
> to create the atmosphere...I did not peer in too long,
> in case they booked me instead.
>
> I hope I will be able to write up the museum details
> in the very near future (and that it will do justice
> to the master).
>
> I like the BSI charter - hope we have something
> similar, especially around the toasts.
>
> I am also envious of Sachin's acronym for God's Own
> Abode... will think up something for Kerala
>
> Regards,
> Jinesh
>
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Hello fellow Sherlockians,
I had been a member of this group for the last year or
so - a sleeping member, which basically is what I do
best.
The recent idea by Sachin for introducing the members
was good, but it had a slight drawback - I think I
lost a sense of mystery about the group. Earlier, it
used to have a sense of secrecy - like a group of
cloaked and hooded members meeting in shady corners,
with no-one seeing the face of the other, referring to
each other by code names (well, the internet IS a
shady corner, and the nicknames are pretty mysterious
;-) - let me have my romantic moments). I used to go
through the various postings with great interest, and
try to figure out the background of the members. I
had figured that Anand was in software (mainly because
of the technical details in his posts) and that
Dr.Watson was female (a much earlier post mentioned
something about Harry Potter and had female
connotations). And that Sumal is a fundu guy, based
in Coimbatore but basically Mallu, with a Law degree
(this was cunningly worked out based on a syntax
analysis of his writing, noting his penchant for
getting others to write, and the fact that he is my
cousin ;-). Now we know who we are ... but maybe
secrecy was better??
The main reason I came awake was the interest of the
group in visiting the Sherlock Holmes museum at 221
Baker Street. I have been working at 67 Baker Street
for the last 8 months, and never ever got the time to
visit the museum. I had been planning a very long
time to visit, and write it up for the group. Well, I
think I need to do that pretty soon. So hopefully I
will be able to get some details of the current
layout. I had walked past the doors early one morning
(when it was shut) and the main thing I noted was a
small notice in the window "Police Notice: Looking for
any information about the brutal killing of a woman
near this door... dated 1888". They really know how
to create the atmosphere...I did not peer in too long,
in case they booked me instead.
I hope I will be able to write up the museum details
in the very near future (and that it will do justice
to the master).
I like the BSI charter - hope we have something
similar, especially around the toasts.
I am also envious of Sachin's acronym for God's Own
Abode... will think up something for Kerala
Regards,
Jinesh
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By Jove! The messages are really flowing! Keep up the good work
folks!
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:15:34 -0000
> From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 188
>
> I think you gave yourself a low rating Balaji. Perhaps
> you did not read the description completely.
>
> You are a number '5' if you have written a Holmes pastiche
> already. Considering that standard, I will put you as number
> '5' i.e a Holmes Master.
>
> I think you should repost your introduction giving yourself
> a number 5.
Sorry, Anand! Once, in my teens, when I started reading Holmes,
I fancied myself to be as good as Holmes. Now, I know better. I
rated myself 3 because of what Holmes says in FOUR - "The chief
proof of man's real greatness lies in his *perception* of his
own smallness." (Emphasis added)
Note that this is *not* humility. I just know that Holmes and
Holmes alone is the Master!
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That's something 'I' have in common with you Sachin. Now that I think about it,
my first exposure of Holmes was also in Marathi and coincidences of
coincidences, also in my Aunt's house. I'd gone to visit her for the summer in
Kolhapur and for the lack of anything better to do I started skimming a book of
some translated stories, including Hound of Baskervilles, Dancing men and Red
Headed league. No need to say I had a summer to remember. That would be the year
1997, exactly a decade after your first encounter with the master.
Manraviel
Secondly also realized that the first exposure
to Holmes was in Marathi. Was at some aunts place
during the summer holidays of '87, had nothing to do
and there was this marathi magazine which had a
translated version of A study in scarlet.
"...From the ashes a fire shall be woken
A light from the shadows shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that was broken
The crownless again shall be king"
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Hi !
Anand, your comments bring back a quite few
memories. Firstly, I guess we have a common experience
of reading a Holmes story on the day prior to the exam
to relax. That is precisely what I used to do before
my exams too, coincidentally Engg. But another 'exam
eve' favourite used to be J.D. Salinger's The catcher
in the rye, just 5 pages were enough to knock you. Of
course no exams these days but for last couple of
months watching Holmes episodes on DVD before
sleeping.
Secondly also realized that the first exposure
to Holmes was in Marathi. Was at some aunts place
during the summer holidays of '87, had nothing to do
and there was this marathi magazine which had a
translated version of A study in scarlet. The
Doordarshan series was in the next year I guess.
Your Holmes rating is indeed amusing.
Unfortunately can't classify myself into one coz all 5
are partially applicable. And yes, some day, like all
of us hope to, will make a pilgrimage to Baker street.
In the memorabilia, you can also count photographs of
present day 221 B Baker street and a book The world of
Sherlock Holmes by Martin Fido.
A friend got me a keychain and some books from a SH
museum. She just struck a conversation with the owner
and he asked her whether she was buying this stuff for
a 'Indian' friend. She asked him how he guessed and he
said it is usually Indians who are crazy about Holmes.
This happened in London, interesting isn't it ?
By the way did you'll see University challenge
on BBC a couple of weeks back ? There were 4 questions
on Prof. Moriarty. Which mathematical treatise did he
write, who was his second in command, what title did
Holmes give him and can't remember the 4th one. (thats
not the question silly !)
Lastly, I wish our friends would delete non
relevent portions before "replying" to a mail, else
the same thing gets repeated over and over again as in
the last digest(189).
Sachin
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I think you gave yourself a low rating Balaji. Perhaps
you did not read the description completely.
You are a number '5' if you have written a Holmes pastiche
already. Considering that standard, I will put you as number
'5' i.e a Holmes Master.
I think you should repost your introduction giving yourself
a number 5.
-Anand
--- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., Balaji
Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji@y...> wrote:
> Here's my intro:
>
> > 1. Name: Balaji Narasimhan
> > 2. Age/Sex: 31/Male
> > 3. Location: Bangalore
> > 4. Profession: Writer
> > 5. Hobbies (optional): Holmes, Holmes and Holmes!
> > 6. Holmes Memorabilia possessed(optional): None
> > 7. Holmesian Rating (1-5) (optional): 3
> > 8. Other passions (optional and please dont say 'sex' ;-) ):
> Will eating do? :-)
>
>
>
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Well, well... as the Master is fond of saying, "the game is
afoot!"
Nice to see that a little humorous rating system from me
has evoked responses. Thanks also goes to sachin who
evoked the idea.
Mark, dont take the number '50' in the literal sense. It
just indicates that you have read the canon at least 5 times.
(The multiplier 10 is an exaggeration factory you may presume.)
I forgot to add when i became a Holmesian. It should have been
since class VI when i got a copy of the 'The yellow Face' in
malayalam from my brother who got it as prize during the annual
school day competitions. This means i have been a holmesian
for about 20 years.
I also figured that i am quite lacking in Holmes memorabilia.
I am planning of enriching my Holmes and ACD collection in
times to come.
Talking about myself, I have indeed read the canon 50 times
or more. Now how come i have read the canon at least 50 times...? It
was a habit of mine to read a short story in the Canon on the
day before any exam during my engineering studies. I used to
finish the day with this ritual. It used to help me to be alert
and also relaxed for the next day's exam I remember. My friends
considered it a bit eccentric since they used to wonder how this
guy could be so relaxed before the exams that he is reading
Sherlock Holmes! But for me it was and still is one of the best
ways to relax after a hard day's work.
Cheers
-Anand
--- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., Manraviel
<watsonjh2002@y...> wrote:
> No offence taken.
>
> You do have a lot of Holmes memorablia. I do own a professor Gerard
book and the "the stories of medical life by ACD but I too am not
much of a fan of his works, no matter how much more "serious" he
might have thought they had been than SH. We still truly love
Sherlock Holmes.
>
> And the idea for enacting some part of the canon is not a bad idea.
Knowing a thing or two about theatre and acting, I can be a bit of
help too. Lets hope something like this finally materialises. And I
won't mind an excuse to come to Goa.
>
> Manraviel
>
> sachin <sachingoa@y...> wrote:
>
> Well glad that our friends have already started
> responding to the idea. Here goes mine....
>
>
> 1. Name: Sachin
>
> 2. Age/Sex : 30, male (just to clear doubts, if any)
>
> 3. Location: Goa (Gods Own Abode)
>
> 4. Profession: Software Engineer (weekdays), Radio
> Jockey (weekends), Freelance journalist (anytime)
>
> 5. Other passions equivalent to Holmes: Pink Floyd
>
> 6. Hobbies: Reading (anything from Mirza Ghalib to J.D
> Salinger) writing, films, music (Bhimsen Joshi to
> Led Zep) and unravelling the perplexities of life.
>
> 7. Holmes Memorabilia possessed: Books - 2 copies of
> the 56 short and 4 long stories, Illustrated Weekly
> edition which had ACD's unpublished Holmes story whose
> manuscript was found in India (Bangalore, around
> '88-'89 ?), The mandala of SH, quiz books and a mini
> book of SH quotations. Books lost - A quest for SH
> (ACD's bio by Owen Dudley Edwards) and the two books
> by Adrian Conan Doyle. (No offence meant Manraviel,
> but a girl who had no interest in Holmes borrowed it
> and lost it !) A Holmes keychain, a visiting card
> which says 'Sherlock Holmes Consulting detective. My
> most prized possesion: 15 episodes of the Granada TV
> Series of SH starring Jeremy Brett, the quintessential
> Holmes.
>
> 8. Been a Holmesian for 16 years: Since 1988, bought
> the book after watching the Tele series on good old
> Doordarshan.
>
> 9. Holmesian Rating (1-5) (optional) Hmmmm.. thats a
> difficult one. More of a Holmes fan than a ACD fan, if
> you know what I mean. May not know all of the trivia
> by heart but would certainly get sleepless nights if I
> miss some Holmes news, documentry etc. As friend put
> it " Nowadays I read Holmes to find out what else
> happened " So I guess somewhere closer to 3 (am not
> sure what are 4 & 5 all about)
>
>
> Thats all for the Bio. I think we should
> have a annual gathering of the society. Call NDTV,
> Times of India etc. etc to cover it and that will be a
> big boost for the society. Remember, it made the
> headlines on BBC news when the SH society of London
> enacted Holmes death, in full victorian costume at the
> Reichenbach falls in Switzerland. Knowing a thing or
> two about the media, they would love such things and
> Goa is not bad venue for the same.
>
> Sachin
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No offence taken.
You do have a lot of Holmes memorablia. I do own a professor Gerard book and the
"the stories of medical life by ACD but I too am not much of a fan of his works,
no matter how much more "serious" he might have thought they had been than SH.
We still truly love Sherlock Holmes.
And the idea for enacting some part of the canon is not a bad idea. Knowing a
thing or two about theatre and acting, I can be a bit of help too. Lets hope
something like this finally materialises. And I won't mind an excuse to come to
Goa.
Manraviel
sachin <sachingoa@...> wrote:
Well glad that our friends have already started
responding to the idea. Here goes mine....
1. Name: Sachin
2. Age/Sex : 30, male (just to clear doubts, if any)
3. Location: Goa (Gods Own Abode)
4. Profession: Software Engineer (weekdays), Radio
Jockey (weekends), Freelance journalist (anytime)
5. Other passions equivalent to Holmes: Pink Floyd
6. Hobbies: Reading (anything from Mirza Ghalib to J.D
Salinger) writing, films, music (Bhimsen Joshi to
Led Zep) and unravelling the perplexities of life.
7. Holmes Memorabilia possessed: Books - 2 copies of
the 56 short and 4 long stories, Illustrated Weekly
edition which had ACD's unpublished Holmes story whose
manuscript was found in India (Bangalore, around
'88-'89 ?), The mandala of SH, quiz books and a mini
book of SH quotations. Books lost - A quest for SH
(ACD's bio by Owen Dudley Edwards) and the two books
by Adrian Conan Doyle. (No offence meant Manraviel,
but a girl who had no interest in Holmes borrowed it
and lost it !) A Holmes keychain, a visiting card
which says 'Sherlock Holmes Consulting detective. My
most prized possesion: 15 episodes of the Granada TV
Series of SH starring Jeremy Brett, the quintessential
Holmes.
8. Been a Holmesian for 16 years: Since 1988, bought
the book after watching the Tele series on good old
Doordarshan.
9. Holmesian Rating (1-5) (optional) Hmmmm.. thats a
difficult one. More of a Holmes fan than a ACD fan, if
you know what I mean. May not know all of the trivia
by heart but would certainly get sleepless nights if I
miss some Holmes news, documentry etc. As friend put
it " Nowadays I read Holmes to find out what else
happened " So I guess somewhere closer to 3 (am not
sure what are 4 & 5 all about)
Thats all for the Bio. I think we should
have a annual gathering of the society. Call NDTV,
Times of India etc. etc to cover it and that will be a
big boost for the society. Remember, it made the
headlines on BBC news when the SH society of London
enacted Holmes death, in full victorian costume at the
Reichenbach falls in Switzerland. Knowing a thing or
two about the media, they would love such things and
Goa is not bad venue for the same.
Sachin
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Well glad that our friends have already started
responding to the idea. Here goes mine....
1. Name: Sachin
2. Age/Sex : 30, male (just to clear doubts, if any)
3. Location: Goa (Gods Own Abode)
4. Profession: Software Engineer (weekdays), Radio
Jockey (weekends), Freelance journalist (anytime)
5. Other passions equivalent to Holmes: Pink Floyd
6. Hobbies: Reading (anything from Mirza Ghalib to J.D
Salinger) writing, films, music (Bhimsen Joshi to
Led Zep) and unravelling the perplexities of life.
7. Holmes Memorabilia possessed: Books - 2 copies of
the 56 short and 4 long stories, Illustrated Weekly
edition which had ACD's unpublished Holmes story whose
manuscript was found in India (Bangalore, around
'88-'89 ?), The mandala of SH, quiz books and a mini
book of SH quotations. Books lost - A quest for SH
(ACD's bio by Owen Dudley Edwards) and the two books
by Adrian Conan Doyle. (No offence meant Manraviel,
but a girl who had no interest in Holmes borrowed it
and lost it !) A Holmes keychain, a visiting card
which says 'Sherlock Holmes Consulting detective. My
most prized possesion: 15 episodes of the Granada TV
Series of SH starring Jeremy Brett, the quintessential
Holmes.
8. Been a Holmesian for 16 years: Since 1988, bought
the book after watching the Tele series on good old
Doordarshan.
9. Holmesian Rating (1-5) (optional) Hmmmm.. thats a
difficult one. More of a Holmes fan than a ACD fan, if
you know what I mean. May not know all of the trivia
by heart but would certainly get sleepless nights if I
miss some Holmes news, documentry etc. As friend put
it " Nowadays I read Holmes to find out what else
happened " So I guess somewhere closer to 3 (am not
sure what are 4 & 5 all about)
Thats all for the Bio. I think we should
have a annual gathering of the society. Call NDTV,
Times of India etc. etc to cover it and that will be a
big boost for the society. Remember, it made the
headlines on BBC news when the SH society of London
enacted Holmes death, in full victorian costume at the
Reichenbach falls in Switzerland. Knowing a thing or
two about the media, they would love such things and
Goa is not bad venue for the same.
Sachin
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In this system of rating, yes, I too am a four.
Manraviel
Anand Balachandran Pillai <anandpillai6@...> wrote:
I should have added more 'tags' for my
Holmesian rating. Here goes.
Rating Holmesian Tag
0 Holmes non-starter
1 Holmes Rookie
2 Holmes Enthusiast
3 Holmes Addict
4 Holmes Wizard
5 Holmes Master
6 Holmes himself
7 Arthur Conan Doyle
Well the ratings 0,6 and 7 does not apply
to any members here i think :-)
-Anand
"...From the ashes a fire shall be woken
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The crownless again shall be king"
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As for rating I'd give myself a 3. Reading the canon 50 times is a little too
rich even for my blood.
Manraviel
The rating according to me goes from 1-5 with 1 being
the minimal Holmesian to 5 being the complete Holmesian.
1 ... Familiar with Holmes & ACD, Has read most of the works.
Interested in Holmesian movies.
2 ... Read the whole canon and othe stories by ACD. Familiar
with othe pastiches and the history of Holmes and ACD.
3 .... Read the whole canon at least 50 times. Sleeps with a copy
of one of the volumes of the Canon by the bedside. Wizard
of Holmes trivia. Does not miss discovery channel documentaries
and short films on Holmes or ACD. Considers it a personal loss
when Holmesian films or documentaries on TV
--- sherlockholmessocietyofindia@... wrote:
> There are 2 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: hi
> From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> 2. (unknown)
> From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:41:54 -0000
> From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> Subject: Re: hi
>
> Hi Sumal
>
> These things take time. Let me first make a charter. It should
> be humerous, light-hearted and relating to the canon also. Anyway I
> suggest a dead-line of June-July for the formation of the society
> in Bangalore.
>
> We need a physical address where the society will have its office.
> I dont know how one goes about these things. Can we have it in
> somebodys house ?
>
> Suggestions welcome. And I will post the charter ,sufficiently
> Indianised for our comfort, here pretty soon.
>
> -Anand
>
> --- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., sumalsn
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Dear members,
> > we have 'nt got anything from the Bangaloreans yet . Anand ,
> what's
> > happening?
> > sumal
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:44:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
> Subject: (unknown)
>
> Hi all,
> Have been a member of the society for quite some
> time now but obviously not a very active one. Some
> good suggestions have been coming lately, not to
> mention the interesting bye laws of the society sent
> by Anand.z
> Bangloreans are indeed lucky because there are a
> few guys there but I guess people living in other
> cities may not have enough members to muster a 'local'
> club. That also brings the question out of the 30 odd
> members that we have, am not sure that everybody knows
> who is from where. For instance, it is unlikely that
> you know from which city I am sending this message,
> unless of course you are good at tracing IP addresses.
> So I think it is about time we had a proper
> introductory session, not only for the purpose of
> identifing cities but otherwise too. It could be on
> the following lines, modifications are welcome :
>
> Name:
>
> Age :
> (Not mandatory, especially for females, if there are
> any.)
>
> Place:
>
> Profession:
>
> Hobbies:
>
> Other passions equivalent to Holmes:
>
> Holmes Memrobilia possesed (books, videos.....
> anything) :
>
> Been a Holmesian for_______ years (comments as to
> how,when why)
>
> If this format is generally approved, we should
> set the ball rolling.
>
>
> Sachin
>
> P.S. Just realized that my id more than gives away the
> name of the city I am from so no need to get into IP
> addresses ! There is this instance (not sure how true
> it is) where a man identified Arthur Conan Doyle at a
> railway station. ACD was impressed and asked him how
> did he deduce it. The man said
> " Well, your name is written on the suitcase that you
> are carrying"
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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A light from the shadows shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that was broken
The crownless again shall be king"
---J R R Tolkein
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I should have added more 'tags' for my
Holmesian rating. Here goes.
Rating Holmesian Tag
0 Holmes non-starter
1 Holmes Rookie
2 Holmes Enthusiast
3 Holmes Addict
4 Holmes Wizard
5 Holmes Master
6 Holmes himself
7 Arthur Conan Doyle
Well the ratings 0,6 and 7 does not apply
to any members here i think :-)
-Anand
> --- Anand Balachandran Pillai <anandpillai6@...> wrote:
> > I agree with this idea. I think that the following information
> > is sufficient.
> >
> > 1. Name
> > 2. Age/Sex
> > 3. Location/Native of
> > 4. Profession
> > 5. Hobbies (optional)
> > 6. Holmes Memorabilia possessed(optional)
> > 7. Holmesian Rating (1-5) (optional)
> > 8. Other passions (optional and please dont say 'sex' ;-) )
> > 9. Holmesian Plans (optional)
> >
> > The Holmesian rating is a rating that you can give yourself
> > depending on how much the Master has influenced your thinking,
> > talking, lifestyle, reading and method of solving problems in
> > life.
> >
> > The rating according to me goes from 1-5 with 1 being
> > the minimal Holmesian to 5 being the complete Holmesian.
> >
> > 1 ... Familiar with Holmes & ACD, Has read most of the works.
> > Interested in Holmesian movies.
> >
> > 2 ... Read the whole canon and some other works by ACD. Familiar
> > with othe pastiches and the history of Holmes and ACD.
> >
> > 3 .... Read the whole canon at least 50 times. Sleeps with a copy
> > of one of the volumes of the Canon by the bedside. Wizard
> > of Holmes trivia. Does not miss discovery channel
> > documentaries
> > and short films on Holmes or ACD. Considers it a personal
> loss
> >
> > when Holmesian films or documentaries on TV is missed. Tries
> > to collect more Holmes memorabilia. Has bought the whole
> canon
> > at
> > least 2 times so far. Keeps looking for Holmes memorabilia
> > in bookshops and auction centers.
> >
> > 4 ... Holmes wizard. Knows most of the canon inside out. Considers
> > "221 B Baker Street" as a place of pilgrimage. Has plans to
> > visit it sometime in the future or has visited at least
> once
> > already. Is familiar with "Jack the Ripper" and the actual
> > story behind the "Hound". Says "Hercule who" when asked
> about
> > Agatha Chirstie's famous detective. Thinks that Perry Mason
> > is
> > stone worker. Addicted to coffee.
> >
> > Can recite the 56 short stories and four novels and
> > all the major characters in them given 20 minutes. Thinking
> > of writing a Holmes pastiche or has already written one.
> > Tries to apply the "science of deduction" to impress
> friends
> > and colleagues and generally gets ridiculed by them. Sleeps
> > with a copy of the canon or one of its volumes by the
> > bedside.
> >
> > 5 ... Holmes Master. He is the ultimate Holmesian on earth. He
> > has already written a Holmes pastiche which is comparable to
> > the originals. Walks with a victorian aura around him.
> > Lives most of the time in the 19th century foggy London in
> his
> > dreams. Is able to solve problems that confound detectives
> > by sitting on his armchair. Has counted all the steps in the
> > stair that leads up to his house. Identifies that the
> milkman
> > has visited, by interpreting the footprint on his doorstep
> > (and
> > also the small splash of milk). When goes out with friends
> > for dine out his favorite past time is to deduce the
> > professions of people sitting around the other tables and
> > generally succeeds in that.
> >
> > Well, I guess that was amusing.
> >
> > According to this, here is my holmesian data.
> >
> > Name: Anand B Pillai
> > Age/Sex: 28/M
> > Location: Bangalore
> > Native of: Kochi, Kerala
> > Profession: Software Developer/Technology Consultant
> > Hobbies: Music, movies, travelling, reading, table tennis
> > Holmes Memorabilia: 2 copies of the canon, Reprint of the
> > original holmes stories that came in
> > "The Strand" with oriignal artwork by
> > Sidney Paget.
> >
> > Holmesian Rating: 4
> > Other Passions: Technology/Software, Movies (English),
> > Trivia Collection, Cooking, Travel.
> >
> > Holmesian Plans: Hopes to visit 221B Baker Street and
> > Sherlock Holmes Society of London one day.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > -Anand
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- sherlockholmessocietyofindia@... wrote:
> > > There are 2 messages in this issue.
> > >
> > > Topics in this digest:
> > >
> > > 1. Re: hi
> > > From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> > > 2. (unknown)
> > > From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:41:54 -0000
> > > From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> > > Subject: Re: hi
> > >
> > > Hi Sumal
> > >
> > > These things take time. Let me first make a charter. It should
> > > be humerous, light-hearted and relating to the canon also. Anyway
> I
> > > suggest a dead-line of June-July for the formation of the society
> > > in Bangalore.
> > >
> > > We need a physical address where the society will have its
> > office.
> > > I dont know how one goes about these things. Can we have it in
> > > somebodys house ?
> > >
> > > Suggestions welcome. And I will post the charter ,sufficiently
> > > Indianised for our comfort, here pretty soon.
> > >
> > > -Anand
> > >
> > > --- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., sumalsn
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > Dear members,
> > > > we have 'nt got anything from the Bangaloreans yet . Anand ,
> > > what's
> > > > happening?
> > > > sumal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:44:34 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
> > > Subject: (unknown)
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Have been a member of the society for quite some
> > > time now but obviously not a very active one. Some
> > > good suggestions have been coming lately, not to
> > > mention the interesting bye laws of the society sent
> > > by Anand.z
> > > Bangloreans are indeed lucky because there are a
> > > few guys there but I guess people living in other
> > > cities may not have enough members to muster a 'local'
> > > club. That also brings the question out of the 30 odd
> > > members that we have, am not sure that everybody knows
> > > who is from where. For instance, it is unlikely that
> > > you know from which city I am sending this message,
> > > unless of course you are good at tracing IP addresses.
> > > So I think it is about time we had a proper
> > > introductory session, not only for the purpose of
> > > identifing cities but otherwise too. It could be on
> > > the following lines, modifications are welcome :
> > >
> > > Name:
> > >
> > > Age :
> > > (Not mandatory, especially for females, if there are
> > > any.)
> > >
> > > Place:
> > >
> > > Profession:
> > >
> > > Hobbies:
> > >
> > > Other passions equivalent to Holmes:
> > >
> > > Holmes Memrobilia possesed (books, videos.....
> > > anything) :
> > >
> > > Been a Holmesian for_______ years (comments as to
> > > how,when why)
> > >
> > > If this format is generally approved, we should
> > > set the ball rolling.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sachin
> > >
> > > P.S. Just realized that my id more than gives away the
> > > name of the city I am from so no need to get into IP
> > > addresses ! There is this instance (not sure how true
> > > it is) where a man identified Arthur Conan Doyle at a
> > > railway station. ACD was impressed and asked him how
> > > did he deduce it. The man said
> > > " Well, your name is written on the suitcase that you
> > > are carrying"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > >
> >
>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I agree with this idea. I think that the following information
is sufficient.
1. Name
2. Age/Sex
3. Location/Native of
4. Profession
5. Hobbies (optional)
6. Holmes Memorabilia possessed(optional)
7. Holmesian Rating (1-5) (optional)
8. Other passions (optional and please dont say 'sex' ;-) )
9. Holmesian Plans (optional)
The Holmesian rating is a rating that you can give yourself
depending on how much the Master has influenced your thinking,
talking, lifestyle, reading and method of solving problems in
life.
The rating according to me goes from 1-5 with 1 being
the minimal Holmesian to 5 being the complete Holmesian.
1 ... Familiar with Holmes & ACD, Has read most of the works.
Interested in Holmesian movies.
2 ... Read the whole canon and some other works by ACD. Familiar
with othe pastiches and the history of Holmes and ACD.
3 .... Read the whole canon at least 50 times. Sleeps with a copy
of one of the volumes of the Canon by the bedside. Wizard
of Holmes trivia. Does not miss discovery channel documentaries
and short films on Holmes or ACD. Considers it a personal loss
when Holmesian films or documentaries on TV is missed. Tries
to collect more Holmes memorabilia. Has bought the whole canon
at
least 2 times so far. Keeps looking for Holmes memorabilia
in bookshops and auction centers.
4 ... Holmes wizard. Knows most of the canon inside out. Considers
"221 B Baker Street" as a place of pilgrimage. Has plans to
visit it sometime in the future or has visited at least once
already. Is familiar with "Jack the Ripper" and the actual
story behind the "Hound". Says "Hercule who" when asked about
Agatha Chirstie's famous detective. Thinks that Perry Mason is
stone worker. Addicted to coffee.
Can recite the 56 short stories and four novels and
all the major characters in them given 20 minutes. Thinking
of writing a Holmes pastiche or has already written one.
Tries to apply the "science of deduction" to impress friends
and colleagues and generally gets ridiculed by them. Sleeps
with a copy of the canon or one of its volumes by the bedside.
5 ... Holmes Master. He is the ultimate Holmesian on earth. He
has already written a Holmes pastiche which is comparable to
the originals. Walks with a victorian aura around him.
Lives most of the time in the 19th century foggy London in his
dreams. Is able to solve problems that confound detectives
by sitting on his armchair. Has counted all the steps in the
stair that leads up to his house. Identifies that the milkman
has visited, by interpreting the footprint on his doorstep (and
also the small splash of milk). When goes out with friends
for dine out his favorite past time is to deduce the
professions of people sitting around the other tables and
generally succeeds in that.
Well, I guess that was amusing.
According to this, here is my holmesian data.
Name: Anand B Pillai
Age/Sex: 28/M
Location: Bangalore
Native of: Kochi, Kerala
Profession: Software Developer/Technology Consultant
Hobbies: Music, movies, travelling, reading, table tennis
Holmes Memorabilia: 2 copies of the canon, Reprint of the
original holmes stories that came in
"The Strand" with oriignal artwork by
Sidney Paget.
Holmesian Rating: 4
Other Passions: Technology/Software, Movies (English),
Trivia Collection, Cooking, Travel.
Holmesian Plans: Hopes to visit 221B Baker Street and
Sherlock Holmes Society of London one day.
Cheers
-Anand
--- sherlockholmessocietyofindia@... wrote:
> There are 2 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: hi
> From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> 2. (unknown)
> From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:41:54 -0000
> From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> Subject: Re: hi
>
> Hi Sumal
>
> These things take time. Let me first make a charter. It should
> be humerous, light-hearted and relating to the canon also. Anyway I
> suggest a dead-line of June-July for the formation of the society
> in Bangalore.
>
> We need a physical address where the society will have its office.
> I dont know how one goes about these things. Can we have it in
> somebodys house ?
>
> Suggestions welcome. And I will post the charter ,sufficiently
> Indianised for our comfort, here pretty soon.
>
> -Anand
>
> --- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., sumalsn
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Dear members,
> > we have 'nt got anything from the Bangaloreans yet . Anand ,
> what's
> > happening?
> > sumal
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:44:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
> Subject: (unknown)
>
> Hi all,
> Have been a member of the society for quite some
> time now but obviously not a very active one. Some
> good suggestions have been coming lately, not to
> mention the interesting bye laws of the society sent
> by Anand.z
> Bangloreans are indeed lucky because there are a
> few guys there but I guess people living in other
> cities may not have enough members to muster a 'local'
> club. That also brings the question out of the 30 odd
> members that we have, am not sure that everybody knows
> who is from where. For instance, it is unlikely that
> you know from which city I am sending this message,
> unless of course you are good at tracing IP addresses.
> So I think it is about time we had a proper
> introductory session, not only for the purpose of
> identifing cities but otherwise too. It could be on
> the following lines, modifications are welcome :
>
> Name:
>
> Age :
> (Not mandatory, especially for females, if there are
> any.)
>
> Place:
>
> Profession:
>
> Hobbies:
>
> Other passions equivalent to Holmes:
>
> Holmes Memrobilia possesed (books, videos.....
> anything) :
>
> Been a Holmesian for_______ years (comments as to
> how,when why)
>
> If this format is generally approved, we should
> set the ball rolling.
>
>
> Sachin
>
> P.S. Just realized that my id more than gives away the
> name of the city I am from so no need to get into IP
> addresses ! There is this instance (not sure how true
> it is) where a man identified Arthur Conan Doyle at a
> railway station. ACD was impressed and asked him how
> did he deduce it. The man said
> " Well, your name is written on the suitcase that you
> are carrying"
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I agree with this idea. I think that the following information
is sufficient.
1. Name
2. Age/Sex
3. Location
4. Profession
5. Hobbies (optional)
6. Holmes Memorabilia possessed(optional)
7. Holmesian Rating (1-5) (optional)
8. Other passions (optional and please dont say 'sex' ;-) )
The Holmesian rating is a rating that you can give yourself
depending on how much the Master has influenced your thinking,
talking, lifestyle, reading and method of solving problems in
life.
The rating according to me goes from 1-5 with 1 being
the minimal Holmesian to 5 being the complete Holmesian.
1 ... Familiar with Holmes & ACD, Has read most of the works.
Interested in Holmesian movies.
2 ... Read the whole canon and othe stories by ACD. Familiar
with othe pastiches and the history of Holmes and ACD.
3 .... Read the whole canon at least 50 times. Sleeps with a copy
of one of the volumes of the Canon by the bedside. Wizard
of Holmes trivia. Does not miss discovery channel documentaries
and short films on Holmes or ACD. Considers it a personal loss
when Holmesian films or documentaries on TV
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> 1. Re: hi
> From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> 2. (unknown)
> From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
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> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:41:54 -0000
> From: "anandpillai6" <anandpillai6@...>
> Subject: Re: hi
>
> Hi Sumal
>
> These things take time. Let me first make a charter. It should
> be humerous, light-hearted and relating to the canon also. Anyway I
> suggest a dead-line of June-July for the formation of the society
> in Bangalore.
>
> We need a physical address where the society will have its office.
> I dont know how one goes about these things. Can we have it in
> somebodys house ?
>
> Suggestions welcome. And I will post the charter ,sufficiently
> Indianised for our comfort, here pretty soon.
>
> -Anand
>
> --- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., sumalsn
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Dear members,
> > we have 'nt got anything from the Bangaloreans yet . Anand ,
> what's
> > happening?
> > sumal
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:44:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: sachin <sachingoa@...>
> Subject: (unknown)
>
> Hi all,
> Have been a member of the society for quite some
> time now but obviously not a very active one. Some
> good suggestions have been coming lately, not to
> mention the interesting bye laws of the society sent
> by Anand.z
> Bangloreans are indeed lucky because there are a
> few guys there but I guess people living in other
> cities may not have enough members to muster a 'local'
> club. That also brings the question out of the 30 odd
> members that we have, am not sure that everybody knows
> who is from where. For instance, it is unlikely that
> you know from which city I am sending this message,
> unless of course you are good at tracing IP addresses.
> So I think it is about time we had a proper
> introductory session, not only for the purpose of
> identifing cities but otherwise too. It could be on
> the following lines, modifications are welcome :
>
> Name:
>
> Age :
> (Not mandatory, especially for females, if there are
> any.)
>
> Place:
>
> Profession:
>
> Hobbies:
>
> Other passions equivalent to Holmes:
>
> Holmes Memrobilia possesed (books, videos.....
> anything) :
>
> Been a Holmesian for_______ years (comments as to
> how,when why)
>
> If this format is generally approved, we should
> set the ball rolling.
>
>
> Sachin
>
> P.S. Just realized that my id more than gives away the
> name of the city I am from so no need to get into IP
> addresses ! There is this instance (not sure how true
> it is) where a man identified Arthur Conan Doyle at a
> railway station. ACD was impressed and asked him how
> did he deduce it. The man said
> " Well, your name is written on the suitcase that you
> are carrying"
>
>
>
>
>
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I think its a very good Idea Sachin. And by the way its good to finally hear
from an inactive member. None of us have ever had a formal intro of sorts...this
would enable us to know each other better and also other inactive members can do
the same, if earlier they had been too shy to join in the discssions.
Name: Manraviel
Age : 19 and yes, I'm a female
(Not mandatory, especially for females, if there are
any.)
Place: Vashi, New Mumbai
Profession: Student, writer and amateur theatre artist
Hobbies: Reading, writing, watching movies.
Other passions equivalent to Holmes: JRR Tolkein's works.
Holmes Memrobilia possesed (books, videos.....
anything) : Two copies of the canon, Return of Sherlock Holmes, The Mandala of
Sherlock Holmes, Young Sherlock Holmes, Ghost of Sherlock Holmes,Sherlock Holmes
Puzzles, More Sherlock Holmes Puzzles and a book of the Comic strip The Comic
Adventures of Holmes and Watson. (all books)
Been a Holmesian for 8 years (comments as to
how,when why): I was hooked on to Holmes when first I had enough money to buy
the canon. And as to why, well, no one who reads the canon with interest can
resist being a fan. Right?
There is this instance (not sure how true
it is) where a man identified Arthur Conan Doyle at a
railway station. ACD was impressed and asked him how
did he deduce it. The man said
" Well, your name is written on the suitcase that you
are carrying"
--I didn't know this. It's pretty funny and ironic don't you think?
"...From the ashes a fire shall be woken
A light from the shadows shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that was broken
The crownless again shall be king"
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Hi all,
Have been a member of the society for quite some
time now but obviously not a very active one. Some
good suggestions have been coming lately, not to
mention the interesting bye laws of the society sent
by Anand.z
Bangloreans are indeed lucky because there are a
few guys there but I guess people living in other
cities may not have enough members to muster a 'local'
club. That also brings the question out of the 30 odd
members that we have, am not sure that everybody knows
who is from where. For instance, it is unlikely that
you know from which city I am sending this message,
unless of course you are good at tracing IP addresses.
So I think it is about time we had a proper
introductory session, not only for the purpose of
identifing cities but otherwise too. It could be on
the following lines, modifications are welcome :
Name:
Age :
(Not mandatory, especially for females, if there are
any.)
Place:
Profession:
Hobbies:
Other passions equivalent to Holmes:
Holmes Memrobilia possesed (books, videos.....
anything) :
Been a Holmesian for_______ years (comments as to
how,when why)
If this format is generally approved, we should
set the ball rolling.
Sachin
P.S. Just realized that my id more than gives away the
name of the city I am from so no need to get into IP
addresses ! There is this instance (not sure how true
it is) where a man identified Arthur Conan Doyle at a
railway station. ACD was impressed and asked him how
did he deduce it. The man said
" Well, your name is written on the suitcase that you
are carrying"
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Hi Sumal
These things take time. Let me first make a charter. It should
be humerous, light-hearted and relating to the canon also. Anyway I
suggest a dead-line of June-July for the formation of the society
in Bangalore.
We need a physical address where the society will have its office.
I dont know how one goes about these things. Can we have it in
somebodys house ?
Suggestions welcome. And I will post the charter ,sufficiently
Indianised for our comfort, here pretty soon.
-Anand
--- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., sumalsn
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Dear members,
> we have 'nt got anything from the Bangaloreans yet . Anand , what's
> happening?
> sumal
Sri asked for a discussion. Mark has in fact
given a pageful which is worth for a theses
on the topic "Firearms in the Holmes Canon".
Great going Mark!
-Anand
--- In sherlockholmessocietyofindia@..., Manraviel
<watsonjh2002@y...> wrote:
> References to Firearms other than in "The Musgrave Ritual" in the canon.
>
> "A Study in Scarlet".
>
> Holmes to Watson: "Have you any arms?" "I have my old service
revolver and a few cartridges." "You had better clean it and load it.
He will be a desperate man; and though I shall take him unawares, it
is as well to be ready for anything." I went to the bedroom and
followed his advice. When I returned with the pistol, the table had
been cleared, and Holmes was engaged in his favorite occupation of
scraping upon his violin. "The plot thickens," he said, as I entered;...."
>
> "The Adventure of the Speckled Band."
> "We shall call a cab and drive to Waterloo. I should be very
obliged if you would slip your revolver into your pocket. An Eley's
No. 2 is an excellent argument with gentlemen who can twist steel
pokers into knots."
> "I took out my revolver and laid it on the corner of the
table. Holmes had brought up a long thin cane, and this he placed upon
the bed beside him. By it he laid the box of matches and the stump of
a candle. Then he turned down the lamp, and we were left in darkness."
>
>
> "The Red Headed League."
>
> The reference to Watson's revolver comes after Watson and Holmes
agree to meet that evening at Baker Street at 10:00 PM.
>
> "Very Well. And, I say, Doctor, there may be some little
danger, so kindly put your army revolver in your pocket." He waved his
hand, turned on his heel, and disappeared in an instant among the crowd."
>
> "If they fire, Watson, have no compunction about shooting them
down." I placed my revolver, cocked, upon the top of the wooden case
behind which I crouched. Holmes shot the slide across the front oh his
lantern, and left us in pitch darkness-such an absolute darkness as I
have never before experienced…"we must be silent and wait."
>
> "The light flashed upon the barrel of a revolver, but Holmes's
hunting crop came down upon the man's wrist, and the pistol clinked
upon the stone floor."
>
> . "The Adventure of the Dying Detective".
>
> " Mrs. Hudson, the landlady of Sherlock Holmes, was a long
suffering woman. Not only was her first floor flat invaded at all
hours by throngs of singular and often undesirable characters, but her
remarkable lodger showed an eccentricity and irregularity in his life
which must have sorely tried her patience. His incredible untidiness,
his addiction to music at strange hours, his occasional revolver
practice within doors, his weird and often malodorous scientific
experiments, and the atmosphere of violence and danger which hung
around him made him the very worst tenant in London."
>
> "Finally, in my aimless perambulation, I came to the
mantlepiece. A litter of pipes, tobacco-pouches, syringes, penknives,
revolver-cartridges, and other debris was scattered over it."
>
> "The Greek Interpreter."
>
> "Excellent!" said Sherlock Holmes. "Send the boy for a
four-wheeler, and we shall be off at once." He opened the table-drawer
as he spoke, and I noticed that he slipped his revolver into his
pocket. "Yes," said he, in answer to my glance, "I should say from
what we have heard that we are dealing with a particularly dangerous
gang."
>
> "The Sign of the Four"
>
> "Are you all ready? Then we had better go down, for it is a
little past the hour." I picked up my hat and my heaviest stick, but I
observed that Holmes took his revolver from his drawer and slipped it
into his pocket. It was clear that he thought that our night's work
might be a serious one."
>
> "You have not a pistol, have you? "I have my stick" "It is
just possible that we may need something of the sort if we get to
their lair. Jonathan I shall leave to you, but if the other turns
nasty I shall shoot him dead" He took out his revolver as he spoke,
and having loaded two of the chambers, he put it back into the right
hand pocket of his jacket. We had during this time been following the
guidance of Toby (tracking dog) down the half rural villa lined roads
which lead to the Metropolis."
>
> "One bumper, said he, to the success of our little expedition.
And now it is high time we were off. Have you a pistol, Watson?". " I
have my old service revolver in my desk. You had best take it, then.
It is well to be prepared. I see that the cab is at the door."
>
> "Holmes had already drawn his revolver, and I whipped out mine
at the sight of this savage, distorted creature. He was wrapped in
some sort of a dark ulster or blanket, which left only his face
exposed; but that face was enough to give a man a sleepless night.
Never have I seen features so deeply marked with all bestiality and
cruelty. His small eyes glowed and burned with a sombre light, and his
thick lips were writhed back from his teeth, which grinned and
chattered at us with half animal fury. Fire if he raises his hand,
said Holmes quietly….It was well that we had so clear a view of him.
Even as we looked he plucked out from under his covering a short,
round piece of wood, like a school-ruler, and clapped it to his lips.
Our pistols rang out together. He whirled round, threw up his arms,
and, with a kind of choking cough, fell sideways into the stream. I
caught one glimpse of his venomous, menacing eyes amid the white swirl
of the waters."
>
> "The Hound of Baskervilles"
>
> Holmes speaking to Watson states: "You have arms, I suppose?
Yes, I thought it as well to take them. Most certainly. Keep your
revolver near you night and day, and never relax your precautions."
>
> "I will come, said I. Then get your revolver and put on your
boots. The sooner we start the better, as the fellow may put out his
light and be off."
>
> Watson comments: "There was our man running with great speed
down the other side, springing over the stones in his way with the
activity of a mountain goat. A lucky long shot of my revolver might
have crippled him, but I had brought it only to defend myself if
attacked and not to shoot an unarmed man who was running away..."
>
> "If this man were inside it I should find out from his own
lips, at the point of my revolver if necessary, who he was and why he
had dogged us so long."
>
> "I closed my hand upon the butt of my revolver and, walking
swiftly up to the door, I looked in. The place was empty."
>
> "And then at last I heard him. Far away came the sharp clink
of a boot striking upon a stone. Then another and yet another, coming
nearer and nearer. I shrank back into the darkest corner and cocked
the pistol in my pocket, determined not to discover myself until I had
an opportunity of seeing something of the stranger." "Holmes? I
cried - Holmes! "Come out," said he, "and please be careful with the
revolver."
>
> "Hist! " cried Holmes, and I heard the sharp click of a
cocking pistol. "Look out! It's coming!…I spring to my feet, my inert
hand grasping my pistol, my mind paralysed by the dreadful shape which
had sprung out upon us from the shadows of the fog….then Holmes and I
both fired together, and the creature gave a hideous howl, which
showed that one at least had hit him. He did not pause, however, but
bounded onwards…"..."But the next instant Holmes had emptied five
barrels of his revolver in the creature's flank". With a last howl of
agony and a vicious snap in the air, it rolled upon its back, four
feet pawing furiously, and then fell limp upon its side. I stooped,
panting, and pressed my pistol to the dreadful, shimmering head, but
it was useless to press the trigger. The giant hound was dead."
>
> "A faint moaning and rustling came from within. Holmes struck
the door just over the lock with the flat of his foot and it flew
open. Pistol in hand, we all three rushed into the room..."
>
> "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches".
>
> "I should not be very much surprised if this were he whose
step I hear now upon the stair. I think, Watson, that it would be well
for you to have your pistol ready." The words were hardly out of his
mouth before a man appeared at the door or the room, a very fat and
burly man with a heavy stick in his hand."
>
> "He turned and clattered down the stairs as hard as he could
go. He's gone for the dog!" cried Miss Hunter. "I have my revolver,"
said I. Better close the front door," cried Holmes, and we all rushed
down the stairs together."
>
> "There was the huge famished brute, its black muzzle buried in
Rucastle's throat, while he writhed and screamed on the ground.
Running up, I blew its brains out, and it fell over with its keen
white teeth still meeting in the great creases of his neck."
>
> "The Adventure of the Beryl Coronet".
>
> "But when I gave him every particular that had occurred, he
tried to bluster, and took down a life-preserver from the wall. I knew
my man, however, and I clapped a pistol to his head before he could
strike. Then he became a little more reasonable."
>
> "The Final Problem."
>
> "He peered at me with great curiosity in his puckered eyes.
"You have less frontal development than I should have expected,' said
he at last. "It is a dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the
pocket of one's dressing-gown." The fact is that upon his entrance I
had instantly recognized the extreme personal danger in which I lay.
The only conceivable escape for him lay in silencing my tongue. In an
instant I had slipped the revolver from the drawer into my pocket, and
was covering him through the cloth. At his remark I drew the weapon
out and laid it cocked upon the table. He still smiled and blinked but
there was something about his eyes which made me feel very glad that I
had it there. "You evidently don't know me", said he. "on the
contrary", I answered, "I think it is fairly evident that I do. Pray
take a chair. I can spare you five minutes if you have anything to
say." : all that I have to say has already crossed your mind," said
he…He clapped his hand into his
> pocket, and I raised the pistol from the table. But he merely drew
out memorandum book in which he had scribbled some dates."
>
> "The Adventure of the Empty House"
>
> "It was indeed like old times when, at that hour, I found
myself seated beside him in a hansom, my revolver in my pocket, and
the thrill of adventure in my heart...."
>
> "Holmes crouched back against the wall, and I did the same, my
hand closing upon the handle of my revolver. Peering through the
gloom, I saw the vague outline of a man, a shade blacker than the
blackness of the open door..."
>
> "For an instant he was rigid and motionless. Then his finger
tightened on the trigger. There was a strange, loud whiz and a long
silvery tinkle of broken glass. At that instant Holmes sprang like a
tiger on to the marksman's back, and hurled him flat upon his face. He
was up again in a moment, and with convulsive strength he seized
Holmes by the throat, but I struck him on the head with the butt of my
revolver, and he dropped again upon the floor."
>
> This story also discusses "the famous air gun of Von Herder"
used by Colonel Moran. ("he bent forward and threw all his weight and
strength upon some lever, with the result that there came a long,
whirling, grinding noise, ending once more in a powerful click. He
straightened himself then, and I saw that what he held in his hand was
a sort of gun, with a curiously misshapen butt. He opened it at the
breech, put something in, and snapped the breech-lock…picked up the
powerful air gun from the floor,…An admirable and unique weapon, said
he, noiseless and of tremendous power, I knew Von Herder, the blind
German mechanic, who constructed it to the order of the late Professor
Moriarty.")
>
> "The Adventure of the Solitary Cyclist".
>
> "It was the severity of Holmes's manner and the fact that he
slipped a revolver into his pocket before leaving our rooms which
impressed me with the feeling that tragedy might prove to lurk behind
this curious train of events."
>
> "The old man, still clad in his surplice, burst into such a
string of foul oaths as I have never heard, and pulled out a revolver
of his own, but, before he could raise it, he was looking down the
barrel of Holmes's weapon. Enough of this, said my friend coldly. Drop
that pistol! Watson, pick it up! Hold it to his head. Thank you. You,
Carruthers, give me that revolver. We'll have no more violence. Come,
hand it over! Who are you, then? My name is Sherlock Holmes. Good Lord!"
>
> "The Adventure of Black Peter".
>
> "I rather fancy that he is on the stair, said Holmes,
serenely. I think Watson, that you would do well to put that revolver
where you can reach it. He rose and laid a written paper upon a
side-table. Now we are ready, said he."
>
> "he would have very quickly overpowered my friend had Hopkins
and I not rushed to his rescue. Only when I pressed the cold muzzle of
the revolver to his temple did he at last understand that resistance
was vain. We lashed his ankles with cord, and rose breathless from
the struggle.".
>
> . "The Adventure of the Bruce Partington Plans."
>
> "At last, shortly after nine o'clock there arrived a messenger
with a note: "Am dining at Goldini's Restaurant, Gloucester Road,
Kensington. Please come at once and join me there. Bring with you a
jemmy, a dark lantern, a chisel and a revolver. - S.H." It was nice
equipment for a respectable citizen to carry through the dim,
fog-draped streets. I stowed them all discreetly away in my overcoat,
and drove straight to the address given. There sat my friend at a
little round table near the door of the garish Italian restaurant."
>
> . "The Adventure of the Dancing Men"
>
> "I think, gentlemen, said Holmes, quietly, that we had best take up
our position behind the door. Every precaution is necessary when
dealing with such a fellow. You will need your handcuffs, Inspector.
You can leave the talking to me. We waited in silence for a minute -
one of those minutes which one can never forget. Then the door opened
and the man stepped in. In an instant Holmes clapped a pistol to his
head, and Martin slipped the handcuffs over his wrists."
>
> "The Adventure of the Six Napoleons."
>
> "No doubt the object of our journey was to catch him in the
very act, and I could not but admire the cunning with which my friend
had inserted a wrong clue in the evening paper so as to give the
fellow the idea that he could continue his scheme with impunity. I was
not surprised when Holmes suggested that I should take my revolver
with me. He had himself picked up the loaded hunting-crop which was
his favourite weapon. A four wheeler was at the door at eleven, and in
it we drove to a spot at the other side of Hammersmith Bridge."
>
> "The Problem of Thor Bridge"
>
>
>
> "Watson, said he, I have some recollection that you go armed upon
these excursions of ours. It was as well for him that I did so, for he
took little care for his own safety when his mind was once absorbed by
a problem, so that more than once my revolver had been a good friend
in need. I reminded him of the fact. Yes, yes, I am a little absent
minded in such matters. But have you your revolver on you? I produced
it from my hip-pocket, a short, handy, but very serviceable little
weapon. He undid the catch, shook out the cartridges, and examined it
with care. It's heavy - remarkably heavy, said he. Yes, it is a solid
bit of work. He mused over it for a minute. Do you know, Watson, said
he, I believe your revolver is going to have a very intimate
connection with the mystery which we are investigating....And the test
will depend upon the conduct of this little weapon. One cartridge out.
Now we will replace the other five and put on the safety catch. So!
That increases the weight and makes
> it a better reproduction..."
>
> "The Adventure of the Priory School"
>
> "Suddenly, however, we heard a step behind us, and there was
the landlord, his heavy eyebrows drawn down over his savage eyes, his
swarthy features convulsed with passion. He held a short metal-headed
stick in his hand, and he advanced in so menacing a fashion that I was
right glad to feel the revolver in my pocket. "You infernal spies!"
the man cried. "What are you doing there?" "Why, Mr. Reuben Hayes,"
said Holmes coolly, "one might think that you were afraid of our
finding something out."
>
> "The Adventure of the Three Garridebs".
>
>
>
> "And the next link? Well we must go now and look for that." He took
a revolver from the drawer and handed it to me. "I have my old
favourite with me. If our Wild West friend tries to live up to his
nickname, we must be ready for him."
>
>
>
> "Clearly our moment had come. Holmes touched my wrist as a
signal, and together we stole across to the open trap-door. Gently as
we moved, however, the old floor must have creaked under our feet, for
the head of our American, peering anxiously round, emerged suddenly
from the open space. His face turned upon us with a glare of baffled
rage, which gradually softened into a rather shamefaced grin as he
realized that two pistols were pointed at his head. Well, well! Said
he, coolly, as he scrambled to the surface. I guess you have been one
too many for me, Mr. Holmes. Saw through my game, I suppose, and
played me for a sucker from the first. Well, sir, I hand it to you;
you have me beat and - In an instant he had whisked out a revolver
from his breast and had fired two shots. I felt a sudden hot sear as
if a red-hot iron had been pressed to my thigh. There was a crash as
Holmes pistol came down on the man's head. I had a vision of him
sprawling upon the floor with blood running
> down his face while Holmes rummaged him for weapons...."
>
> "The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax."
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> "I mean to find her," said Sherlock Holmes. "I'm going through
this house till I do find her." "Where is your warrant?" Holmes half
drew a revolver from his pocket. "This will have to serve till a
better one comes." "Why, you are a common burglar.: "So you might
describe me," said Holmes, cheerfully. "My companion is also a
dangerous ruffian. And together we are going through your house." Our
opponent opened the door."
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> "The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone".
>
> "With a single spring Holmes had leaped from the dummy's chair and
had grasped the precious jewel. He held it now in one hand, while his
other pointed a revolver at the Count's head. The two villains
staggered back in utter amazement. Before they had recovered Holmes
had pressed the electric bell."
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References to Firearms other than in "The Musgrave Ritual" in the canon.
"A Study in Scarlet".
Holmes to Watson: "Have you any arms?" "I have my old service revolver and a
few cartridges." "You had better clean it and load it. He will be a desperate
man; and though I shall take him unawares, it is as well to be ready for
anything." I went to the bedroom and followed his advice. When I returned with
the pistol, the table had been cleared, and Holmes was engaged in his favorite
occupation of scraping upon his violin. "The plot thickens," he said, as I
entered;...."
"The Adventure of the Speckled Band."
"We shall call a cab and drive to Waterloo. I should be very obliged if
you would slip your revolver into your pocket. An Eley's No. 2 is an excellent
argument with gentlemen who can twist steel pokers into knots."
"I took out my revolver and laid it on the corner of the table. Holmes had
brought up a long thin cane, and this he placed upon the bed beside him. By it
he laid the box of matches and the stump of a candle. Then he turned down the
lamp, and we were left in darkness."
"The Red Headed League."
The reference to Watson’s revolver comes after Watson and Holmes agree to meet
that evening at Baker Street at 10:00 PM.
"Very Well. And, I say, Doctor, there may be some little danger, so kindly
put your army revolver in your pocket.” He waved his hand, turned on his heel,
and disappeared in an instant among the crowd."
"If they fire, Watson, have no compunction about shooting them down.” I
placed my revolver, cocked, upon the top of the wooden case behind which I
crouched. Holmes shot the slide across the front oh his lantern, and left us in
pitch darkness-such an absolute darkness as I have never before experienced…”we
must be silent and wait."
"The light flashed upon the barrel of a revolver, but Holmes's hunting
crop came down upon the man's wrist, and the pistol clinked upon the stone
floor."
. "The Adventure of the Dying Detective".
" Mrs. Hudson, the landlady of Sherlock Holmes, was a long suffering woman.
Not only was her first floor flat invaded at all hours by throngs of singular
and often undesirable characters, but her remarkable lodger showed an
eccentricity and irregularity in his life which must have sorely tried her
patience. His incredible untidiness, his addiction to music at strange hours,
his occasional revolver practice within doors, his weird and often malodorous
scientific experiments, and the atmosphere of violence and danger which hung
around him made him the very worst tenant in London."
"Finally, in my aimless perambulation, I came to the mantlepiece. A litter
of pipes, tobacco-pouches, syringes, penknives, revolver-cartridges, and other
debris was scattered over it."
“The Greek Interpreter.”
“Excellent!” said Sherlock Holmes. “Send the boy for a four-wheeler, and we
shall be off at once.” He opened the table-drawer as he spoke, and I noticed
that he slipped his revolver into his pocket. “Yes,” said he, in answer to my
glance, “I should say from what we have heard that we are dealing with a
particularly dangerous gang.”
"The Sign of the Four"
"Are you all ready? Then we had better go down, for it is a little past
the hour.” I picked up my hat and my heaviest stick, but I observed that Holmes
took his revolver from his drawer and slipped it into his pocket. It was clear
that he thought that our night’s work might be a serious one."
"You have not a pistol, have you? "I have my stick" "It is just possible
that we may need something of the sort if we get to their lair. Jonathan I shall
leave to you, but if the other turns nasty I shall shoot him dead" He took out
his revolver as he spoke, and having loaded two of the chambers, he put it back
into the right hand pocket of his jacket. We had during this time been following
the guidance of Toby (tracking dog) down the half rural villa lined roads which
lead to the Metropolis."
"One bumper, said he, to the success of our little expedition. And now it
is high time we were off. Have you a pistol, Watson?". " I have my old service
revolver in my desk. You had best take it, then. It is well to be prepared. I
see that the cab is at the door."
"Holmes had already drawn his revolver, and I whipped out mine at the
sight of this savage, distorted creature. He was wrapped in some sort of a dark
ulster or blanket, which left only his face exposed; but that face was enough to
give a man a sleepless night. Never have I seen features so deeply marked with
all bestiality and cruelty. His small eyes glowed and burned with a sombre
light, and his thick lips were writhed back from his teeth, which grinned and
chattered at us with half animal fury. Fire if he raises his hand, said Holmes
quietly….It was well that we had so clear a view of him. Even as we looked he
plucked out from under his covering a short, round piece of wood, like a
school-ruler, and clapped it to his lips. Our pistols rang out together. He
whirled round, threw up his arms, and, with a kind of choking cough, fell
sideways into the stream. I caught one glimpse of his venomous, menacing eyes
amid the white swirl of the waters."
"The Hound of Baskervilles"
Holmes speaking to Watson states: "You have arms, I suppose? Yes, I
thought it as well to take them. Most certainly. Keep your revolver near you
night and day, and never relax your precautions.”
“I will come, said I. Then get your revolver and put on your boots. The
sooner we start the better, as the fellow may put out his light and be off."
Watson comments: "There was our man running with great speed down the
other side, springing over the stones in his way with the activity of a mountain
goat. A lucky long shot of my revolver might have crippled him, but I had
brought it only to defend myself if attacked and not to shoot an unarmed man who
was running away..."
"If this man were inside it I should find out from his own lips, at the
point of my revolver if necessary, who he was and why he had dogged us so long."
"I closed my hand upon the butt of my revolver and, walking swiftly up to
the door, I looked in. The place was empty.”
“And then at last I heard him. Far away came the sharp clink of a boot
striking upon a stone. Then another and yet another, coming nearer and nearer. I
shrank back into the darkest corner and cocked the pistol in my pocket,
determined not to discover myself until I had an opportunity of seeing something
of the stranger." “Holmes? I cried - Holmes! "Come out," said he, "and please
be careful with the revolver."
"Hist! " cried Holmes, and I heard the sharp click of a cocking pistol.
"Look out! It's coming!…I spring to my feet, my inert hand grasping my pistol,
my mind paralysed by the dreadful shape which had sprung out upon us from the
shadows of the fog….then Holmes and I both fired together, and the creature gave
a hideous howl, which showed that one at least had hit him. He did not pause,
however, but bounded onwards…"..."But the next instant Holmes had emptied five
barrels of his revolver in the creature's flank". With a last howl of agony and
a vicious snap in the air, it rolled upon its back, four feet pawing furiously,
and then fell limp upon its side. I stooped, panting, and pressed my pistol to
the dreadful, shimmering head, but it was useless to press the trigger. The
giant hound was dead."
"A faint moaning and rustling came from within. Holmes struck the door
just over the lock with the flat of his foot and it flew open. Pistol in hand,
we all three rushed into the room..."
"The Adventure of the Copper Beeches".
"I should not be very much surprised if this were he whose step I hear now
upon the stair. I think, Watson, that it would be well for you to have your
pistol ready." The words were hardly out of his mouth before a man appeared at
the door or the room, a very fat and burly man with a heavy stick in his hand."
"He turned and clattered down the stairs as hard as he could go. He's gone
for the dog!" cried Miss Hunter. "I have my revolver," said I. Better close the
front door," cried Holmes, and we all rushed down the stairs together."
"There was the huge famished brute, its black muzzle buried in Rucastle's
throat, while he writhed and screamed on the ground. Running up, I blew its
brains out, and it fell over with its keen white teeth still meeting in the
great creases of his neck."
“The Adventure of the Beryl Coronet”.
“But when I gave him every particular that had occurred, he tried to
bluster, and took down a life-preserver from the wall. I knew my man, however,
and I clapped a pistol to his head before he could strike. Then he became a
little more reasonable.”
“The Final Problem.”
“He peered at me with great curiosity in his puckered eyes. “You have less
frontal development than I should have expected,’ said he at last. “It is a
dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the pocket of one’s dressing-gown.”
The fact is that upon his entrance I had instantly recognized the extreme
personal danger in which I lay. The only conceivable escape for him lay in
silencing my tongue. In an instant I had slipped the revolver from the drawer
into my pocket, and was covering him through the cloth. At his remark I drew the
weapon out and laid it cocked upon the table. He still smiled and blinked but
there was something about his eyes which made me feel very glad that I had it
there. “You evidently don’t know me”, said he. “on the contrary”, I answered, “I
think it is fairly evident that I do. Pray take a chair. I can spare you five
minutes if you have anything to say.” : all that I have to say has already
crossed your mind,” said he…He clapped his hand into his
pocket, and I raised the pistol from the table. But he merely drew out
memorandum book in which he had scribbled some dates.”
"The Adventure of the Empty House"
"It was indeed like old times when, at that hour, I found myself seated
beside him in a hansom, my revolver in my pocket, and the thrill of adventure in
my heart...."
"Holmes crouched back against the wall, and I did the same, my hand
closing upon the handle of my revolver. Peering through the gloom, I saw the
vague outline of a man, a shade blacker than the blackness of the open door..."
"For an instant he was rigid and motionless. Then his finger tightened on
the trigger. There was a strange, loud whiz and a long silvery tinkle of broken
glass. At that instant Holmes sprang like a tiger on to the marksman’s back, and
hurled him flat upon his face. He was up again in a moment, and with convulsive
strength he seized Holmes by the throat, but I struck him on the head with the
butt of my revolver, and he dropped again upon the floor."
This story also discusses "the famous air gun of Von Herder" used by
Colonel Moran. (“he bent forward and threw all his weight and strength upon
some lever, with the result that there came a long, whirling, grinding noise,
ending once more in a powerful click. He straightened himself then, and I saw
that what he held in his hand was a sort of gun, with a curiously misshapen
butt. He opened it at the breech, put something in, and snapped the
breech-lock…picked up the powerful air gun from the floor,…An admirable and
unique weapon, said he, noiseless and of tremendous power, I knew Von Herder,
the blind German mechanic, who constructed it to the order of the late Professor
Moriarty.”)
“The Adventure of the Solitary Cyclist”.
“It was the severity of Holmes’s manner and the fact that he slipped a
revolver into his pocket before leaving our rooms which impressed me with the
feeling that tragedy might prove to lurk behind this curious train of events.”
“The old man, still clad in his surplice, burst into such a string of foul
oaths as I have never heard, and pulled out a revolver of his own, but, before
he could raise it, he was looking down the barrel of Holmes’s weapon. Enough of
this, said my friend coldly. Drop that pistol! Watson, pick it up! Hold it to
his head. Thank you. You, Carruthers, give me that revolver. We’ll have no more
violence. Come, hand it over! Who are you, then? My name is Sherlock Holmes.
Good Lord!”
"The Adventure of Black Peter".
"I rather fancy that he is on the stair, said Holmes, serenely. I think
Watson, that you would do well to put that revolver where you can reach it. He
rose and laid a written paper upon a side-table. Now we are ready, said he."
"he would have very quickly overpowered my friend had Hopkins and I not
rushed to his rescue. Only when I pressed the cold muzzle of the revolver to his
temple did he at last understand that resistance was vain. We lashed his ankles
with cord, and rose breathless from the struggle.".
. “The Adventure of the Bruce Partington Plans.”
“At last, shortly after nine o’clock there arrived a messenger with a note:
“Am dining at Goldini’s Restaurant, Gloucester Road, Kensington. Please come at
once and join me there. Bring with you a jemmy, a dark lantern, a chisel and a
revolver. - S.H.” It was nice equipment for a respectable citizen to carry
through the dim, fog-draped streets. I stowed them all discreetly away in my
overcoat, and drove straight to the address given. There sat my friend at a
little round table near the door of the garish Italian restaurant.”
. "The Adventure of the Dancing Men"
"I think, gentlemen, said Holmes, quietly, that we had best take up our
position behind the door. Every precaution is necessary when dealing with such a
fellow. You will need your handcuffs, Inspector. You can leave the talking to
me. We waited in silence for a minute - one of those minutes which one can never
forget. Then the door opened and the man stepped in. In an instant Holmes
clapped a pistol to his head, and Martin slipped the handcuffs over his wrists."
“The Adventure of the Six Napoleons.”
“No doubt the object of our journey was to catch him in the very act, and I
could not but admire the cunning with which my friend had inserted a wrong clue
in the evening paper so as to give the fellow the idea that he could continue
his scheme with impunity. I was not surprised when Holmes suggested that I
should take my revolver with me. He had himself picked up the loaded
hunting-crop which was his favourite weapon. A four wheeler was at the door at
eleven, and in it we drove to a spot at the other side of Hammersmith Bridge.”
"The Problem of Thor Bridge"
"Watson, said he, I have some recollection that you go armed upon these
excursions of ours. It was as well for him that I did so, for he took little
care for his own safety when his mind was once absorbed by a problem, so that
more than once my revolver had been a good friend in need. I reminded him of the
fact. Yes, yes, I am a little absent minded in such matters. But have you your
revolver on you? I produced it from my hip-pocket, a short, handy, but very
serviceable little weapon. He undid the catch, shook out the cartridges, and
examined it with care. It’s heavy - remarkably heavy, said he. Yes, it is a
solid bit of work. He mused over it for a minute. Do you know, Watson, said he,
I believe your revolver is going to have a very intimate connection with the
mystery which we are investigating....And the test will depend upon the conduct
of this little weapon. One cartridge out. Now we will replace the other five and
put on the safety catch. So! That increases the weight and makes
it a better reproduction..."
“The Adventure of the Priory School”
“Suddenly, however, we heard a step behind us, and there was the landlord,
his heavy eyebrows drawn down over his savage eyes, his swarthy features
convulsed with passion. He held a short metal-headed stick in his hand, and he
advanced in so menacing a fashion that I was right glad to feel the revolver in
my pocket. “You infernal spies!” the man cried. “What are you doing there?”
“Why, Mr. Reuben Hayes,” said Holmes coolly, “one might think that you were
afraid of our finding something out.”
"The Adventure of the Three Garridebs".
"And the next link? Well we must go now and look for that." He took a revolver
from the drawer and handed it to me. "I have my old favourite with me. If our
Wild West friend tries to live up to his nickname, we must be ready for him."
"Clearly our moment had come. Holmes touched my wrist as a signal, and
together we stole across to the open trap-door. Gently as we moved, however, the
old floor must have creaked under our feet, for the head of our American,
peering anxiously round, emerged suddenly from the open space. His face turned
upon us with a glare of baffled rage, which gradually softened into a rather
shamefaced grin as he realized that two pistols were pointed at his head. Well,
well! Said he, coolly, as he scrambled to the surface. I guess you have been one
too many for me, Mr. Holmes. Saw through my game, I suppose, and played me for a
sucker from the first. Well, sir, I hand it to you; you have me beat and - In an
instant he had whisked out a revolver from his breast and had fired two shots. I
felt a sudden hot sear as if a red-hot iron had been pressed to my thigh. There
was a crash as Holmes pistol came down on the man's head. I had a vision of him
sprawling upon the floor with blood running
down his face while Holmes rummaged him for weapons...."
“The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax.”
“I mean to find her,” said Sherlock Holmes. “I’m going through this house
till I do find her.” “Where is your warrant?” Holmes half drew a revolver from
his pocket. “This will have to serve till a better one comes.” “Why, you are a
common burglar.: “So you might describe me,” said Holmes, cheerfully. “My
companion is also a dangerous ruffian. And together we are going through your
house.” Our opponent opened the door.”
"The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone".
"With a single spring Holmes had leaped from the dummy's chair and had grasped
the precious jewel. He held it now in one hand, while his other pointed a
revolver at the Count's head. The two villains staggered back in utter
amazement. Before they had recovered Holmes had pressed the electric bell."
PHEWW!!!
Let me know if I missed anything.
Manraviel
"...From the ashes a fire shall be woken
A light from the shadows shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that was broken
The crownless again shall be king"
---J R R Tolkein
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Yes, indeed. It was in all the paper all across India. Here's some detailed
info.
Dame Jean Conan Doyle, the last surviving child of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, died
in November 1997. She owned a number of her father's original handwritten
manuscripts, and her estate put up six of these for sale to benefit various
charities. The sale was held at Christie's King Street auction house in London
on 19 November 2003. Two of the six manuscripts sold.
List of Manuscripts and Prices Realized
The following manuscripts were offered for sale.
Lot 49: "A Duet with an Occasional Chorus" (1899)
- Approx. 220 pages; 1 reproduction from an interior page (large and
readable)
- Sold for £35,850 including 19.5% buyers premium, no VAT
Lot 50: "A Glimpse of the Army" (1900)
- 13 pages
- Sold for £4,182.50 including 19.5% buyers premium, plus 17.5% VAT on
the buyer's premium
Lot 51: "Brigadier Gerard at Waterloo" (1902)
- Includes the paired short stories "The Adventure of the Forest Inn"
and "The Adventure of the Nine Prussian Horsemen"
- 79 pages; 2 reproductions.
- 1 reproduction of an interior page from "The Adventure of the Forest
Inn" (medium-sized and readable)
- 1 reproduction of the opening page from "The Adventure of the Nine
Prussian Horsemen" (medium-sized, partially obscured)
- Unsold
Lot 52: "How Brigadier Gerard lost his ear" (1902)
- 42 pages; 1 reproduction from the opening page (medium-sized, readable
but possibly cropped)
- Unsold
Lot 53: "Ypres, September 1915" (1915)
- A poem; 3.5 pages; 1 reproduction with Lot 54 of a stanza (large and
readable)
- Unsold
Lot 54: "The Maracot Deep" (1927)
- 143 leaves; 1 reproduction from the opening page (medium-sized and
fairly readable)
- Unsold
The Drummer <drummerbonham@...> wrote:
Hi All,
This is for all the bangalore based members of our
society - did u read an article that appeared in
today's TOI about the manuscripts being got, which
were written by the Master's creator? These
manuscripts are going to be auctioned by Christie's
shortly.
Cheers,
Ravi.
"...From the ashes a fire shall be woken
A light from the shadows shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that was broken
The crownless again shall be king"
---J R R Tolkein
Yahoo! India Promos: Win a trip for 2 to Britain. Click here.
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Hi All,
This is for all the bangalore based members of our
society - did u read an article that appeared in
today's TOI about the manuscripts being got, which
were written by the Master's creator? These
manuscripts are going to be auctioned by Christie's
shortly.
Cheers,
Ravi.
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>
> Topics in this digest:
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> 1. Re: Digest Number 182
> From: Balaji Narasimhan
> <sherlockbalaji@...>
> 2. Re: Firearms
> From: Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <anandpillai6@...>
> 3. Re: Film " Sherlock " on HBO
> From: sumalsn
> 4. Re: Firearms
> From: sumalsn
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:19:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: Balaji Narasimhan
> <sherlockbalaji@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 182
>
> Anand,
>
> > I am copying here the relevant portions of the
> charter of the
> > BSI, the Baker Street Irregulars of Newyork.
>
> Sounds good. Serious yet funny! Maybe, we could
> formulate our
> own laws based on this.
>
>
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> From: Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <anandpillai6@...>
> Subject: Re: Firearms
>
> There are many instances but some of these come
> to mind prominently.
>
> First is the air-gun that Colonel Moran uses in the
> attempted murder of Holmes, and in the actual murder
> of Ronald Adair. The gun was made by Von Herder, the
> blind German gun-mechanic.
>
> The second is the gun used in the attempted murder
> of John Douglas of Manor house in the "Valley of
> Fear".
> The gun ended up taking the life of the murderer
> himself.
> The two triggers were wired to give maximum
> explosive
> charge. Also the gun barrel was sawed so as to fire
> at close range.
>
> Another one is the missing gun in the "Thor Bridge",
> the one of an identical pair used by Mrs. Neil
> Gibson
> to falsely indict Mrs. Dunbar as her murderer.
> Whereas
> in fact she managed to make the gun disappear by
> tying a large stone to the end of a string and tying
> the other end on to the gun. She hid the other gun
> in Miss Dunbar's wardrobe so as to make her appear
> as the killer.
>
> I also recall the pointblank firing that ended
> up killing Charles Augustus Milverton in his
> own house. The gun used was a small pistol,
> which could be carried in hand and good enough
> only at close range. The actual perpetrator of the
> murder is a mysterious lady. I still havent figured
> out who she is to this day.
>
> That is all I can recall right now.
>
> -Anand
>
>
> --- sherlockholmessocietyofindia@...
> wrote:
> > There are 3 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Charter of the BSI
> > From: Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <anandpillai6@...>
> > 2. Firearms
> > From: Srifx
> > 3. Firearms
> > From: Srifx
> >
> >
> >
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 04:42:16 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <anandpillai6@...>
> > Subject: Charter of the BSI
> >
> > I am copying here the relevant portions of the
> charter of the
> > BSI, the Baker Street Irregulars of Newyork.
> >
> > """
> > Written by Elmer Davis, the BSI Constitution reads
> as follows:
> > Article I
> > The name of the society shall be the Baker Street
> Irregulars.
> > Article II
> > Its purpose shall be the study of the Sacred
> Writings.
> > Article III
> > All persons shall be eligible for membership who
> pass an examination
> > in
> > the Sacred Writings set by officer of the society,
> and who are
> > considered otherwise suitable.
> > Article IV
> > The officers shall be: a Gasogene, a Tantalus, and
> a Commissionaire.
> > The duties of the Gasogene shall be those commonly
> performed by a
> > President.
> > The duties of the Tantalus shall be those commonly
> performed by a
> > Secretary.
> > The duties of the Commissionaire shall be to
> telephone down for ice,
> > White Rock, and whatever else may be required and
> available; to
> > conduct
> > all negotiations with waiters; and to assess the
> members pro rata for
> > the cost of same.
> >
> > The BSI Buy-laws are just as curious as their
> constitution:
> > 1. An annual meeting shall be held on January
> 6th, at which the
> > canonical toasts shall be drunk; after which the
> members shall drink
> > at
> > will.
> > 2. The current round shall be bought by any
> member who fails to
> > identify, by title of story and context, and
> quotation from the
> > Sacred
> > Writings submitted by any other member.
> > Qualification A. If two or more members fail so
> to identify, a round
> > shall be bought by each of those so failing.
> > Qualification B. If the submitter of the
> quotation, upon challenge,
> > fails to identify it correctly, he shall buy the
> round.
> > 3. Special meetings may be called at any time or
> any place by any
> > one
> > of three members, two of whom shall constitute a
> quorum.
> > Qualification A. If said two people are of
> opposite sexes, they
> > shall
> > use care in selecting the place of meeting, to
> avoid
> > misinterpretation
> > (or interpretation either, for that matter).
> > 4. All other business shall be left for the
> monthly meetings.
>
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dear holmesians,
I agree with your panning of the movie. Dr watson was reduced to a
caricature but pluse of the film include their ability to capture the
atmosphere of Victorian london and a chilling potrayal of Prof
Moriarty. The film was horrible due to an apology of The master and
incorrect potrayal of all the characters of the canon
sumal
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