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#1848 From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Mon Oct 3, 2005 7:34 am
Subject:: Centre nod to partial revival of Hindustan-Tibet Road
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Hi,

As i had mentioned in the aftermath of parechu dam
bursting, that the revival of old Hindustan-Tibet road
should be on cards to counter the happenings on NH-22/
new Hindustan Tibet road.
The Union of India has asked for the revival of the
old road. It is a welcome development. This road
development would lead to spurt in improvement of
living standards in the remote corners which were
earlier bypassed and also act as a standby road in
case of NH-22 is closed. I would further suggest that
the govt revive the road from Sarahan Bushair( 18 km
from Jeori which lies on NH22 ) onwards. Since
historically that has always been the gateway to
Kinnaur and Tibet. Moreover, they should align this
road for the development of tourist infrastucture.
This would be a fabolous addition to the already
famous toursim spot like Sangla valley and Kalpa. Let
the local people enjoy the fruits of this road
development atleat. I hope the govt keeps that in mind
while redeveloping this road.

Attached is the report.
Regards,
Tenzin
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Centre nod to partial revival of Hindustan-Tibet Road
Tribune News Service

Shimla, October 2
The Centre has agreed in principle to the proposal to
partly revive the abandoned old Hindustan-Tibet road
as an alternative road to the existing National
Highway (NH-22), the only link to the tribal Kinnaur
and Spiti areas, which has of late become highly
vulnerable to damage from floods.

A Central team, which visited the area in the wake of
Parechu Lake disaster, has given its nod to the
proposal under which a 75-km road will be constructed
from Tapri to Kiran Khad. It will be a single-lane
road at a much higher alignment than the national
highway, which runs dangerously close to the Sutlej.
Funds for the Rs 50-crore project will be provided by
the Centre under the border areas development scheme.

Starting from Tapri, the proposed road will pass
through Karcham, Peo, Pangi, Thopan ,Rarang and Kirang
Khad on the right bank before rejoining it. While
about 40 km road will be mostly aligned along the
abandoned old Hindustan-Tibet road, the rest will be
realigned to bypass very high portions. It will not
cross over the river and thus no big bridges will be
required.

The existing national highway criss-crosses the river
six times between Wangtu and Khab. Its vulnerability
was exposed during the August 2000 floods when 18
small, big bridges on the river and vast stretches of
road, about 20 km in length, were washed away.
Consequently, large parts of the tribal belt remained
cut off for almost a year. The calamity repeated early
this year when floods, caused due to the breaching of
the Parechu Lake in Tibet, washed away as many as
eight important bridges and wiped out large portions
of road.

The road will also help provide connectivity to
villages which are mostly located at higher elevations
at a safe distance from the river. There is very
little population along the banks of the river.

Another alternative road will be built to bypass the
treacherous hill terrain at Malling Nullah, which has
been constantly on slide for the past about eight
years. The road remains blocked for months together.
The 11-km road will pass through Leo on the right bank
of Spiti and rejoin the existing highway at Chango.



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#1847 From: "harshvardhan singh" <iliharsh@...>
Date:: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:59 am
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#1846 From: Varun Rattan Singh <varun_singh@...>
Date:: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:34 am
Subject:: Photos from Dharamshala !
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#1845 From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:13 am
Subject:: Lest we forget
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Everyone of you already know about him. But then this article on him is so fitting. I thought i would like to share it once more.
 

     


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The soldier who became a legend

Reportage: Archana Masih. Photographs: Rediff Archives and the Batra family. Design: Dominic Xavier, Rajesh Karkera

Lieutenant Vikram Batra knew he only had one night.

Dawn would hit Peak 5140 earlier than the rest of Jammu and Kashmir and he only had a few hours to complete his mission.

Pakistani invaders had taken positions in bunkers at a height of 17,000 feet. From their vantage point, the enemy could see the advance of the Indian troops and target them -- killing them as they climbed the steep incline.

Lieutenant Batra and Captain Sanjeev Jamwal -- both from the Kangra valley in Himachal Pradesh -- were ordered to recapture the peak in the cover of darkness on the night of June 19, 1999, about five weeks after the Kargil war began.

The operation was much too dangerous to be carried out during the day.

Aware of the enemy's advantage, Lt Batra -- who was later promoted to captain on the battlefield -- decided he would attack the enemy from the rear. He commanded his men to climb the treacherous mountain stealthily.

Peak 5140, the highest point on the Tololing Ridge, was one of the most arduous and crucial peaks in the Drass region. If it fell, it would clear the Pakistanis from that sector and pave the way for further victories.

He knew they had to win.

Captain Vikram Batra in the Drass sector

It was dark and cold. The men crawled, quietly. A wrong move could take them to their death down the rocky ridge and Batra, who had earned an instructor's grade as a commando, was determined not to lose any men.

He was deeply upset when a terrorist's bullet meant for him had struck his man behind him during his first posting in the terrorist-prone region of Sopore in Jammu and Kashmir.

'Didi, it was meant for me and I lost my man,' he had told his elder sister over the phone.

But tonight his guide was the framed motto of the Indian Military Academy, Dehra Dun, that he had brought home to Palampur, Himachal Pradesh, at the end of his training.

The safety, honor and welfare of your country come first always and everytime.

The honor, welfare and comfort of the men you command come next.

Your own ease, comfort and safety come last, always and everytime.

The motto had been molded into his heart as a Gentleman Cadet. There was no better time to live by it than now -- when India was at war and he, in his first major battle.

Durga Mata ki jai' -- their battle cry tore the night sky as 24-year-old Vikram and his men assaulted the enemy.

The bunkers were destroyed, many enemy soldiers killed and 13 J&K Rifles won a decisive victory.

All his men had made it alive.

Vikram was elated. 'Yeh Dil Maangey More' -- the Pepsi catchline those days -- he told his commander at base camp.

His words became the catchline for the Kargil war.

Vikram Batra had led a brilliant operation in one of India's toughest campaigns in mountain warfare. His men swore by him. General Ved Prakash Malik, then the Chief of the Army Staff, called to congratulate him. His triumph was being beamed from television screens across the country.

Photographs of him and his men striding the captured Pakistani gun at the base camp made it to every newspaper.

In a time of war, he became the face of the young Indian soldier who fought ferociously and died fearlessly.

His code name was Sher Shah.

The other soldier India knew with the same name had lived in the Middle Ages and was called 'The Lion King.' Sher Shah Suri was an accomplished commander who defeated the Mughal emperor Humayun and sat on the throne of Delhi for five years.

Vikram Batra was the hero of the nation. Two weeks after his conquest of 5140, people would remember him as the Lion of Kargil.

Daddy, I've captured.'

G L Batra can never forget that phone call that June morning. Vikram's voice was cracking through the satellite phone. He was talking too fast and wasn't clear at all.

For a moment, he thought his son was captured. But the school principal knew it was preposterous to think that he would be allowed to call his parents if he were a prisoner of war. Yet he was frightened and asked Vikram to speak clearly.

'Oh Daddy, I've captured the enemy's post. I'm OK, I'm OK.'

'Bete [son], I'm proud of you,' replied Mr Batra, 'may God bless you to carry on your task there.'

It was the happiest moment of his life. He had named his son 'Vikram' because the name spelled character and strength and he had lived up to it.

It was the morning of June 20, 1999. Through the previous night Vikram had commanded a daring operation and his father reveled in his accomplishment.

The capture of 5140 would finally lead to the decisive fall of Tiger Hill, and to India's eventual victory.

Nine days later, Vikram called from base camp. He was leaving for another crucial operation.

He never called again.

G L Batra in the office at the petrol pump awarded by the government in Vikram's honour

G L Batra and his wife Kamal saw glimpses of their son on television. He looked different with his beard and camouflaged jacket.

Like always, he was brimming with confidence and his spirit was soaring.

Like always, that smile never left his face.

Mrs Batra's heart had lurched when Vikram called to tell her that his unit was being sent to the Kargil front.

The last war India had fought was in 1971, three years before Vikram and his twin, Vishal, were born. He was just 24, had served in the Indian Army for only 18 months -- what if…

She quickly pushed that thought out of her mind. If all mothers were to think that their children shouldn't join the army, who would protect this vast nation?

When she heard that he had captured his first peak it was as if she had won.

She had lived most of her life in the lap of the Dhauladhar mountains in Palampur. She saw the mountains each day and knew them as invincible. Now her son was telling her that he had captured a perilous peak like the Dhauladhar, maybe even higher.

She felt proud like only a mother could be.

G L and Kamal Batra at their home in Palampur

Vikram you are going for another crucial operation, what are your thoughts at this moment?'

Mr Batra watched his son on the evening news when the television reporter questioned him at the base camp.

Over the past few days, the school principal had tried to catch a glimpse of his son after he came home every day. But that day something about Vikram left him uneasy.

'I wish the families of the deceased soldiers are looked after well by the government and society,' Vikram replied and turned his face from the camera.

Sitting in his home, hundreds of miles away, Mr Batra read the facial expressions of his son and instantly knew what was going on in his mind.

Vikram doubted his return, Mr Batra thought.

This time, the father turned away from the television screen and broke down.

His wife asked him why he had suddenly become so sad. He did not have the courage to tell her what he felt.

At that moment he knew their son wasn't coming back.

Kamal Batra with a picture of Vikram. His cap and the Indian flag that had wrapped his body is kept in front.

The last time Vikram was home with his family in Palampur was during the Holi festival in 1999.

He had got leave for a few days and his mother pampered him with the goodies he liked best -- pakodas, home made potato chips and mango pickle.

Like the ritual he followed on each visit, he went to the Neugal Café, a Palampur eatery by the Neugal river, for a coffee and met an acquaintance who spoke about the war.

'The war has begun, who knows when you will be asked to go, you better be careful.'

'Don't worry, Vikram told him,' remembers Mr Batra, 'I'll either come back after raising the Indian flag in victory or return wrapped in it.'

Before Mr and Mrs Batra knew, Vikram's holiday was over and they were at the bus stop seeing him off. The mango pickle and potato chips were packed in his bag for him and his friends in Sopore.

His unit had received orders to move to Shahjahanpur in Uttar Pradesh but the war altered their deployment and Vikram was deputed to report for duty in Kargil on June 1, 1999.

He informed his parents, asked them not to worry and called them at least once in ten days. He made his last phone call on June 29.

He asked about everyone in the family. His elder sisters Neetudidi and Seemadidi. His twin, whom he fondly called 'Kushli.'

She was relieved to hear Vikram say: 'Mommy, ek dum fit hoon, fikar mat karna [I'm absolutely fine. Don't you worry.]

That was the last time he spoke to her.

Vikram Batra would have joined the Merchant Navy. He was to join the ship in Hong Kong. His uniform had been stitched, his tickets booked.

But he changed his mind.

A decade later, his decision would become the opening line of an Indian Oil print campaign. The public sector company paid tribute to the Kargil hero and lauded him for rejecting a lucrative career for the service of the nation.

'Sometimes an ordinary Indian can make a Rs 120,000 crore company feel humble. For every step we take, there's an inspired Indian leading the way,' read the ad copy, alongside a black-and-white etching of Captain Batra.

A framed picture of the text hangs in the petrol pump awarded in his honour to his parents. The advertising agency also sent the etching, which Mr Batra has kept carefully.

On the wall on the other side is a photo-copy of a magazine feature commemorating 'The Lives and Good Times of a Country.' Vikram heads the list of heroes.

In one entrance test for the Indian Administrative Service, says Mrs Batra, one of the questions was -- 'Name the peaks captured by Captain Vikram Batra?'

"It is very rare and our good fortune that we were given a son like him who put the country first."


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A fortnight after he became the face of the Indian soldier in the Kargil war, Vikram Batra died.

He was mortally wounded on the morning of July 8 after fighting through the night while recapturing Peak 4875. He was ill but had insisted that he was fit for the mission and completed it in a manner that put him alongside some of India's greatest military heroes.

Vikram with his men had begun a tortuous climb to strengthen the flanks of the Indian troops fighting the invaders at 16,000 feet.

The conditions were extremely tough, the climb steep. At a gradient of 80 degrees, the thick fog made the advance even more precarious.

The enemy got wind of Batra's arrival. They knew who Sher Shah was, by now his military prowess had become the stuff of legend.

Vikram with another young officer, Anuj Nayyar, fought the enemy's counter-attack ferociously.

They cleared enemy bunkers, egged their men forward, engaged in a hand-to-hand combat and forced the Pakistani retreat.

The mission was almost over when Vikram ran out of the bunker to rescue another junior officer who had injured his legs in an explosion.

"His subedar begged him not to go and said he would go instead," says his father, "but Vikram told him: 'Tu baal-bacchedar hain, hat ja peeche. [You have children, step aside]"

He lunged forward to save the young lieutenant, when a bullet pierced through his chest.

By the morning India won back Peak 4875 but lost Vikram Batra.

For his sustained display of the most conspicuous personal bravery and leadership of the highest order in the face of the enemy, he was awarded India's highest decoration in battle -- the Param Vir Chakra, posthumously

His comrade in battle, Anuj Nayyar, also died while clearing his fourth enemy bunker.

He was awarded the Maha Vir Chakra -- the nation's second highest honour.

Captain Vikram Batra's statue in the town centre in Palampur

Vikram's parents received the news of his death the same day.

No one was at home when two officers arrived at their doorstep that afternoon. When Mrs Batra, a schoolteacher, came home and her neighbours told her about the visitors -- she screamed.

Army officers would only come home if there was bad news, she thought, and prayed fervently before dialling her husband's number.

When Mr Batra reached home and saw the officers, he doubted Vikram was alive.

He told the two colonels to wait, went inside and bowed his head in the pooja room first.

When he came out, one officer stepped out, held his hand and said: 'Batrasaab, Vikram Batra is no more.'

Mr Batra collapsed.

The next day, his son's body received a hero's welcome and was cremated with full military honors.

In their sorrow, the family drew strength from Lord Rama, whose twins Luv and Kush were the inspiration for the pet names of the Batra boys.

"Our child had captured three peaks, he had taken the nation by storm and suddenly he was no more," says Kamal Batra, rivulets of tears flowing down her cheek.

"But when God gives you a mortal blow, he gives you the strength to cope with the grief. Guru Gobind Singh sacrificed four sons for the country. Maybe there was some reason why God gave me twins -- one he had marked for the country and one for me."

Captain Vikram Batra's funeral was attended by a host of dignitaries and citizens. The Chief of Army Staff visited Vikram's home and commended the young officer's courage.

'Had this kid returned from Kargil, he would be sitting at my post in 15 years,' General Malik told Mr Batra.

His father laughs heartily. The first time in the four hours we have spent talking about his son.

Vishal, Vikram's brother, had hoped his brother would be a brigadier one day. His friends would be so impressed, he thought, when he walked by Vikram's side.

Now he has lost count of the number of times Vikram has given him a chance to be proud of being his twin. It happened again recently when he was away on work in the UK. He had gone to Scotland and entered his name in a visitor's book at a tourist hot spot.

'Do you know Vikram Batra?' asked an Indian onlooker on reading his name.

"Is there any better reward than that people remember his name in a far off place like Scotland!" says Vishal, a banker, who returned from London last month.

Vikram was the family charmer. So popular that his friends, teachers -- and even the barbers in Chandigarh's Sector 17 -- remember him to this day, smiles his father.

Chandigarh was the city where Vikram went to college.

It was also where he found the girl he would have married had he lived.

Top: Mr Batra receives the Param Vir Chakra from the President of India. Below: Army Chief General V P Malik in the Batra home

Vikram had met her at university and planned to marry her when he returned from the war.

'Make it a point to meet her whenever you are in Chandigarh,' Vikram had told Vishal when he left to join the army and Vishal had kept the promise.

Five days before Vikram's death, he was in Chandigarh and she came to see him at the station.

As Vishal stepped onto the platform, she called out his name and said, 'This time make sure to marry me off.'

'Pucca,' he replied.

When the news came, Vishal could not muster the courage to speak to her. At the funeral she stood with her parents and wept quietly.

Five years after she lost the only man she loved, his cards and the stuffed teddy he gave her still adorn her cupboard.

She is a teacher now and has sworn to never marry.

Vikram's parents tried to make her change her mind but it has all been in vain.

Like all mothers, Mrs Batra had hoped that her son would be married. He would have a wife, kids and she would see the next generation.

Last year, when Vishal was getting married in Chandigarh, she missed Vikram.

He should have been a groom alongside his identical twin, she thought.

As the band played merry wedding songs, as the shehnai boded the auspicious hour -- Kamal Batra cried for the son she had lost to the country.

The Batras have framed some letters of condolence. One from a lady who lost someone most dear to her in a cruel assassination in May 1991.

'In this hour of deep grief, I only know too well how words are of so little consequence, nevertheless, I do want you to know that you and your family are in my thoughts' -- Sonia Gandhi.

The chief of army staff wrote that in Vikram's death the army had lost a dedicated and devoted officer. 'It is a personal loss to me.'

Air Chief Marshal A Y Tipnis: 'I along with all the personnel of the Indian Air Force salute him for his patriotism and devotion to duty.'

George Fernandes, defence minister: 'I hope you will bear this loss with courage and fortitude.'

Vasundhara Raje, Union minister, now Rajasthan chief minister: 'Your son has brought honour to his unit and country.'

The agony on Mrs Batra's face is heart wrenching. "The day his body was brought home, it was excruciating. No parent can see the dead body of their young son."

Mr and Mrs Batra live alone in a house which bears Vikram's nameplate in the verandah. When they feel sad they look at his pictures, remember his words, his laughter. Sometimes, they cry, it lightens their heart.

"His loss for us is lifelong. But our son gave his life for the glory of this country. He made us proud in his death."

Captain Vikram Batra never lived here, but this is his home.

His parents moved here after his death. They know it is a home Vikram would have liked.

A board at the top of the lane points towards the house. Eight of his framed pictures adorn the walls inside; at the centre of the room hangs a framed citation that makes the hair stand on end.

The Param Vir Chakra -- India's highest award for gallantry in battle.

In a wooden frame lined with gold, the three words in red are powerful and dwarf everything and everyone.

A picture of Mr Batra receiving the award from the President hangs on the same wall. The award offered some consolation for Vikram's sacrifice, feels his father. It was reassuring to know that the country appreciated his son's exemplary valour.

When the officers handed the flag that had wrapped Captain's Batra's body and his cap to Mrs Batra, she packed them neatly in a transparent plastic sheet so that it did not get soiled.

She kept it on a table in front of his picture.

Every morning when she bows her head to god, she takes a look at Vikram too.

Today a statue of her son adorns the town centre.

Across Vikram is the statue of another soldier -- Major Somnath Sharma, India's first Param Vir Chakra winner, who also hailed from Palampur.

'I will fight to the last man and the last round,' Major Sharma said before he laid down his life evicting Pakistani raiders from Srinagar airport in 1947.

He couldn't have found a worthier successor than Captain Vikram Batra to share his space with.


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#1843 From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:48 am
Subject:: Silt in Sutlej: move to study catchment area
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Hi,
See the attached news report.

The project`s current status is closed due to flooding
like 10 days back. Even if it was running, it would
have been closed because the silt level is too high in
Sutlej. The sanctioning of the money to re-evaluate
teh silt problem is the acknowledgement of a folly  of
the supreme nature by the Govt. It means that the
project is bound to doom under present circumstances.
God forbid, if they really have to shut it down if it
is found unfeasible. The idiots designed a 10,000
crore hydel project of taxpayers money for warm sunny
days where probably they could sit next to the Sutlej,
read newspaper and eat biscuits along with tea
admiring the clean and clear blue water with no silt
flowing like some stream.
Someones head need to be rolled. 10,000 crore is no
joke and neither is Rs 27 Lakh which they will now
spend on holidaying in Himalayas. I sincerely wish
that this time they come with some concrete proposal
and not a  file saying "The project is doomed".

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http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050920/himachal.htm#1

Silt in Sutlej: move to study catchment area
Tribune News Service

Shimla, September 19
Concerned at recurring breakdown of the country’s
largest hydroelectric venture, the 1500-MW Nathpa
Jhakri project, due to excessive silt in Sutlej, the
Union Ministry of Environment has decided on a
comprehensive study to map environmental status of its
catchment.

The objective of the study is to prepare an
environmental status report of the Sutlej catchment
and to identify related issues ,besides suggesting
measures to resolve the problems. The ministry has
sanctioned Rs 27 lakh for the study to be conducted by
the state’s Environment Protection and Pollution
Control Board in collaboration with the Central
Pollution Control Board.

It is the first study of its kind to be taken up by
the Union Ministry, which plans to replicate it in
other catchments as environmental degradation has
affected most of the important rivers.

Total catchment area of the river upstream the Nathpa
dam from where the water of the river is diverted for
the project is 49,820 sq km of which 36,900 falls in
Tibet and the remaining 12,920 sq km in Himachal
Pradesh. The extent to which the river has been
affected due to the ongoing environmental degradation
could be judged from the ever-increasing level of
silt. The Nathpa Jhakri project was designed for a
maximum silt level of 5,000 ppm (parts per million) on
the basis of data as per which the silt content was
likely to exceed this limit only for four days in a
year. However, in the very first monsoon after the
project was commissioned the silt content has
surpassed the permissible limit on 53 days from June
24 to August 31.

The study will help generate authentic environment
related data which will help engineers in planning
future projects on the river. The composite view of
environmental status mapping and conservation
priorities of the catchment will also be useful to
environmental regulators to have a neutral opinion in
decision making while granting clearances to
development projects.

The user agencies such as agriculture, forest,
wildlife, Hydropower, Industry and Tourism departments
of the state will be taken into confidence while
conducting the study which will also enable the
government to evolve the strategies for conservation
of catchment and sustainable development.



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#1842 From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:06 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter: NJPC - The Sorrow of Himachal
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Hi Nityin

I would like to add on to your points. Sanjay Gandhi
Vidyut Pariyojna is indeed a technical marvel. It is a
120 MW project. The whole project is underground and
when i say underground, i mean the power house, the
control offices has been dug inside the mighty
himalayas. Water is stored in dam in Bhaba Nagar from
where it is carried on to turbines, a distance of
around 5 6 kms but with height drop of around 1,000
metres. The discharge is in Sutlej river. This project
has 3 turbines of 40 MW each. All three have been
imported and comissioned from some scandinavian
country. Last i heard, two of the turbines were out of
order and the project was only running on 1 turbine
i.e 40 MW. Since, to bring any repairs would mean
stopping the project completely.

Now some of the points as to why Sanjay Vidyut
Pariyojna is being talked with NJPC these days.
The disharge point of Sanjay Vidyut pariyojna was
originally around 30-40 feet from sutlej basin in year
1998-99. Then the terrible flash floods in sutlej of
2001 changed everything. More than 300 lives were
lost. A whole bus stop named "wangtu" which was
transit point towards Bhaba Nagar and the tunnel was
washed away. That place was the entry point to Kinnaur
and Ladhak and vistors passes used to be checked. Now
all that has been done away with. So after the
flooding the height between discharge point and sutlej
river was cut down to 15-20 feet only.  Rest was
filled with the silt brought by floods.

Now enters NJPC. When HPSEB along with Geologial
Survey Deptt of India was conducting survey for NJPC
dam site which is only one to one and half kilometer
from the discharge point of Sanjay Vidyut Pariyojna.
They blundered by calculating the dam height less by 2
metres. So what happened while executing the project
was that those 2 metres were very crucial. That cut
down the power generation of NJPC by almost half,
since the water catchment area went down!
Now if they increase the height by 2metres. The dam
would stop enough water to submerge the discharge
point  of Sanjay Vidyut Pariyojna. and water would
flood the turbines.
So naturally a  big fight ensued between NJPC and
HPSEB, since HPSEB was the loser if Sanjay Vidut
project shuts down. Finally they patched up and got
some sort of compromise formulae. After increasing the
height of the NJPC dam, now the height difference
between the sutlej and sanjay vidyut project discharge
point is around 3 to 4 feet.
Another interesting point though. While doing survey
they not only miscalculated the height of the dam but
also the silt content of the sutlej river. Silt is the
very small earth particles sutlej river brings with
it.  This silt if not filtered from the water would go
inside the turbine with water with very large force.
Imagine particles of sand hitting your face on a very
windy day when you are driving on a motorcycle.
Well thats what is happening to NJPC turbines these
days. The silt content of the dam was miscalculated so
much that the turbines have started to rust already.
Because the silt with water is damaging the turbines.
I am not aware if BHEL(Indian) turbines are doing
better than the Alstom(Swedish) turbines. But it is a
real shame. On account of silt, the dam has already
been stopped before a lot. They are trying to coat the
turbines with various special paints. Lets see how it
works now.
Already himachal has lost close to 300-400 crores of
income from NJPC. It is a real shame that the only
avenue from where Himachal earns some money is so much
in technical trouble. Lets hope Rampur Hydel project
and many others coming up dont see such kind of
mistakes.
Regards,
Tenzin

--- NITYIN <bnityin@...> wrote:

>
> A case point here I would like to mention is the
> Sanjay Vidyut Project built and operated by HPSEB at
> Bhaba Nagar which is completely underground and has
> been working fantastically. This project was a
> prelude to the one of NJPC.
>
>
>
> Though not myself a technical person but what I have
> gathered after talking to people connected with the
> project there are two main faults.. One is the
> outlet of the tunnel which is just on the river bank
> which results in the flooding of the tunnel during
> rainy season. Instead the water discharged should
> have been from height sort of a water fall. Another
> main fault is with the turbines which have been
> imported. They are not working properly. BHEL people
> did a wonderful job in setting up of the powerhouse
> but imported turbines are said to be faulty.
>
>
>
> Lastly, the tales of corruption at NJPC are
> legendry. Recently one senior official was in probe
> as he had got the job on the basis of forged
> certificates. Officers facing corruption charges
> were promoted to senior posts. There are allegations
> in acquiring land for the Rampur project where a few
> locals have been given preferential treatment. Even
> in the functions organized by NJPC, only a few local
> traders are given the contracts where the commission
> is fixed with them… The entire racket is well
> organized. There are some local influential persons
> who scout around and fix deals for the officials.
>
>
>
> Satluj basin has become a money minting goldmine for
> NJPC guys!!
>
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#1841 From: ramit kakkar <rk_merc@...>
Date:: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:31 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter: NJPC - The Sorrow of Himachal
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hi guys
over the past few days i have gone through the mails written by you on NJPC and the sorrows related to it. i am awe struck by the about of information exchanged, at the same time i am angered by the fact that all this worthy information which is so important to the common people of this country and our very own state of himachal has not found its way in the right place and at the right time.
 
i must say that i too am not from a technical background, but as a lay man i would say that huge dams as made by NJPC do have a drastic impact on the ecology of that particular place. hydro generation of energy per se as a method may not cause harm to the ecology as thermal generation of power does. but at the same time it has its disadvantages.
 
recently i was reading an article in tehelka newspaper which talked of what is happening in the north east where hyro projects are coming up as malls are i the NCR region. it talked of the harmful impact of these projects on the ecology of the region and also its impact on the local tribe people, the area of whom is disappearing as cats are from indian forests.
 
corruption per se as a problem is as deep rooted in the indian system as one can imagine and when it comes to big money changing hands, comissions, under hand payments are a common sight. i hope that the dream to make himachal a power state may come true and i hope that it does not suffer the same fate as our aim to make himachal the fruit bowl of india did.
 
hoping for more inputs from all ends
keep up the good work
 
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#1840 From: pankaj sharma <noisee_77@...>
Date:: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:44 pm
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Hi Guys, this is good information about the project.
Can i get some photographs of this DAM from somewhere?


--- sanjay versain <s_versain@...> wrote:

> Hay, can you get me more details about this guy who
> got the job using a fake certificate and any other
> act of corruption which can be proved. Maybe I can
> do a story about it in my paper.
>
> regards,
> sanjay
>
> NITYIN <bnityin@...> wrote:
>
> A case point here I would like to mention is the
> Sanjay Vidyut Project built and operated by HPSEB at
> Bhaba Nagar which is completely underground and has
> been working fantastically. This project was a
> prelude to the one of NJPC.
>
>
>
> Though not myself a technical person but what I have
> gathered after talking to people connected with the
> project there are two main faults.. One is the
> outlet of the tunnel which is just on the river bank
> which results in the flooding of the tunnel during
> rainy season. Instead the water discharged should
> have been from height sort of a water fall. Another
> main fault is with the turbines which have been
> imported. They are not working properly. BHEL people
> did a wonderful job in setting up of the powerhouse
> but imported turbines are said to be faulty.
>
>
>
> Lastly, the tales of corruption at NJPC are
> legendry. Recently one senior official was in probe
> as he had got the job on the basis of forged
> certificates. Officers facing corruption charges
> were promoted to senior posts. There are allegations
> in acquiring land for the Rampur project where a few
> locals have been given preferential treatment. Even
> in the functions organized by NJPC, only a few local
> traders are given the contracts where the commission
> is fixed with them… The entire racket is well
> organized. There are some local influential persons
> who scout around and fix deals for the officials.
>
>
>
> Satluj basin has become a money minting goldmine for
> NJPC guys!!
>
>
>
>
>
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#1839 From: HARSHVARDHAN SINGH <iliharsh@...>
Date:: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:30 pm
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sorry man I cant give you the info but I will try to get   this info it will take some time as on of my friend is working in there  



sanjay versain <s_versain@...> wrote:
Hay, can you get me more details about this guy who got the job using a fake certificate and any other act of corruption which can be proved. Maybe I can do a story about it in my paper.
 
regards,
sanjay

NITYIN <bnityin@...> wrote:

A case point here I would like to mention is the Sanjay Vidyut Project built and operated by HPSEB at Bhaba Nagar which is completely underground and has been working fantastically. This project was a prelude to the one of NJPC.

 

Though not myself a technical person but what I have gathered after talking to people connected with the project there are two main faults.. One is the outlet of the tunnel which is just on the river bank which results in the flooding of the tunnel during rainy season. Instead the water discharged should have been from height sort of a water fall. Another main fault is with the turbines which have been imported. They are not working properly. BHEL people did a wonderful job in setting up of the powerhouse but imported turbines are said to be faulty.

 

Lastly, the tales of corruption at NJPC are legendry. Recently one senior official was in probe as he had got the job on the basis of forged certificates. Officers facing corruption charges were promoted to senior posts. There are allegations in acquiring land for the Rampur project where a few locals have been given preferential treatment. Even in the functions organized by NJPC, only a few local traders are given the contracts where the commission is fixed with them… The entire racket is well organized. There are some local influential persons who scout around and fix deals for the officials.

 

Satluj basin has become a money minting goldmine for NJPC guys!!

 


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#1838 From: sanjay versain <s_versain@...>
Date:: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:52 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter: NJPC - The Sorrow of Himachal
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Hay, can you get me more details about this guy who got the job using a fake certificate and any other act of corruption which can be proved. Maybe I can do a story about it in my paper.
 
regards,
sanjay

NITYIN <bnityin@...> wrote:

A case point here I would like to mention is the Sanjay Vidyut Project built and operated by HPSEB at Bhaba Nagar which is completely underground and has been working fantastically. This project was a prelude to the one of NJPC.

 

Though not myself a technical person but what I have gathered after talking to people connected with the project there are two main faults.. One is the outlet of the tunnel which is just on the river bank which results in the flooding of the tunnel during rainy season. Instead the water discharged should have been from height sort of a water fall. Another main fault is with the turbines which have been imported. They are not working properly. BHEL people did a wonderful job in setting up of the powerhouse but imported turbines are said to be faulty.

 

Lastly, the tales of corruption at NJPC are legendry. Recently one senior official was in probe as he had got the job on the basis of forged certificates. Officers facing corruption charges were promoted to senior posts. There are allegations in acquiring land for the Rampur project where a few locals have been given preferential treatment. Even in the functions organized by NJPC, only a few local traders are given the contracts where the commission is fixed with them… The entire racket is well organized. There are some local influential persons who scout around and fix deals for the officials.

 

Satluj basin has become a money minting goldmine for NJPC guys!!

 


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#1837 From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:48 am
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter: NJPC - The Sorrow of Himachal
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A case point here I would like to mention is the Sanjay Vidyut Project built and operated by HPSEB at Bhaba Nagar which is completely underground and has been working fantastically. This project was a prelude to the one of NJPC.

 

Though not myself a technical person but what I have gathered after talking to people connected with the project there are two main faults.. One is the outlet of the tunnel which is just on the river bank which results in the flooding of the tunnel during rainy season. Instead the water discharged should have been from height sort of a water fall. Another main fault is with the turbines which have been imported. They are not working properly. BHEL people did a wonderful job in setting up of the powerhouse but imported turbines are said to be faulty.

 

Lastly, the tales of corruption at NJPC are legendry. Recently one senior official was in probe as he had got the job on the basis of forged certificates. Officers facing corruption charges were promoted to senior posts. There are allegations in acquiring land for the Rampur project where a few locals have been given preferential treatment. Even in the functions organized by NJPC, only a few local traders are given the contracts where the commission is fixed with them… The entire racket is well organized. There are some local influential persons who scout around and fix deals for the officials.

 

Satluj basin has become a money minting goldmine for NJPC guys!!

 


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#1836 From: HARSHVARDHAN SINGH <iliharsh@...>
Date:: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:42 am
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter NJPC Flooding-Generation likely stopped for 2 months
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Hi people,

 I must tell you people the NJPC is the biggest lost to the country as there is a lot of problems right of now

1. Location of the project is under review         

2. The principle plan of the project is under review  

As you may know it is unable to give power as it is semi   under water

3. NJPC people have eaten half on money which World Bank has given to them as e.g.

 1 to 2 lakes was spend in ever small celebrate

4. all turbines in the project are out of working capacity as the project itself is not older then 1 years old and on average the age of the turbines is over the age of 6 to 7 years …/funny thing is the Indian turbines which was taken from BHEL is all working but all imported thing are not working this all meant there has been a very big case of hanky-panky 

as power project is very important in my setae ^himachal^ as the state  is going to be a power state in due years its help people to enrolment them for a working class .

plus it is the main place from the state get a handsome chunk of money . it is very much said that only government projects are  always absent to place themselves in a good way .



Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...> wrote:

Hi Sanjay
I thought i would like to mentione few pointers
regarding NJPC. This project is a gem in its final
technical execution. No two thoughts about that. I
have seen the thing shape up in front of my eyes.
Since i grew up there. The dam has always been from
the start bogged with numerous controversies.
Intially HPSEB(Himachal Pradesh State Electricty
Board) was supposed to build this dam. The  paper dam
as i would call it then was built only on huge tonnes
of papers and finally when CBI raided them. Huge cash
was found to be misplaced by te concerned officials. I
remember local legends as how "sone ki eent" i.e
bricks of golds were found in the toilets of corrupt
HPSEB officers. Heads were rolled.
There after the state govt. found that it is beyond
its capability in financial and technical terms to
execute this project. A very true assessment.
Afterwards the prject was given to a joint centre
state venture named NJPC with 75:25 equity stake. With
generous world bank support.
Some of the issues that raked up like cancellation of
loans by world bank, miscalculation of the dam height
by 2 metre which almost threatned to cut power
generation by half are nicely covered in this link.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmintdev/73/73ap02.htm

The final cost of the NJPC project was around 10,000
crores and not 50,000 crores. I dont think India can
afford a 50,000 crore project and such mega projects
are prone to environmental issues.

All said, NJPC is a welcome change to upper himachal.
What is desired is that the locals should be  given
more participation in the project through job
generation, scholarships for the local childrens,
building of good schools(NJPC did build a Delhi Public
School for its own staff), building up hospitals,
colleges. They have the infrastructure to put all that
in place and the money too.

NJPC is now going to execute Rampur Hydel project.
This project would involve boring of another head race
tunnel from Jhakri(the existing end point of NJPC
tunnel) to the power generation units near Rampur. The
project 400 MW in size is again huge.
Lets hope the mistakes of the past are not repeated.
And that the people of the region would benefit this
time atleast.

--- sanjay versain <s_versain@...> wrote:

> It is sad that the most embitious power project the
> country has build after independence is facing
> problems without even having started properly. I
> remember having visited the project as a journalism
> student while it was under construction. For me it
> was the greatest engineering marvel and it still is.
> What sadened me at that time was the amout of
> distruction being carried out to carve tunnels,
> roads, etc. In my next visit I found that everything
> had changed with very little signs of earth-removing
> activities. But I knew the hills on which I was
> standing were now empty housing huge machinery or
> carrying huge quantity of Satluj water. Still,
> everything seemed OK as the site itself had been
> beautified to a great extent.
> But today I realise it is not too easy to tame
> nature, whatever the effort, in this case more than
> Rs 50,000 crore rupees......
>
> Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...> wrote:
> Nathpa flooding: govt orders inquiry
> Rakesh Lohumi
> Tribune News Service
>
> Shimla, September 11
> Exactly a week after the underground power house of
> the 1500-MW Nathpa-Jhakri project was submerged due
> to
> bursting of labyrinth pipe the Government of India
> has
> ordered an inquiry into the incident.
>
> The inquiry will be conducted by a five-member
> committee of experts headed by the Chairman of the
> Central Electricity Authority. The committee will
> ascertain the causes responsible for the bursting of
> the pipe of the fourth generating unit, which led to
> backflow of water from tail pool into the power
> house
> on September 4. It will also pinpoint lapses, if
> any,
> and suggest corrective measures. The committee has
> been asked to submit its report within a month.
>
> Mr D.N. Padhy, Special Secretary, Union Ministry of
> Power, who has been camping at Jhakri for the past
> three days, held detailed talks with the management
> of
> the Sutlej Jal Vidyut Nigam. He underlined the need
> to
> bring the project back on the rails and resuming
> generation at the earliest.
>
> However, sources in the nigam said that the project
> could remain shut down for the next two months. The
> power house was still under 13 m of water and so far
> even the extent of damage to machinery could not be
> ascertained. The exact position would be known only
> after dewatering of the power house. The power
> supply
> unit, the battery unit and the control panel would
> have to be put in place again. The damaged labyrinth
> pipe and other damaged parts of turbines would also
> have to be replaced. All this would require time.
>
> The loss on account of loss of generation during the
> current financial year had touched Rs 450 crore till
> yesterday. As things stand at the moment, the
> project
> may not achieve even 50 per cent of the annual
> target
> of generating 6,950 million units and the total loss
> could touch Rs 800 crore.
>
> Meanwhile, the dewatering gained some momentum with
> the nigam pressing seven pumps, four in the tail
> pool
> and three inside the power house, to speed up
> operation. Water was being pumped out at 250 litres
> per second and more pumps were being deployed to
> achieve a pumping rate of 500 litres per second to
> complete the dewatering in the next six days.
>
> The nigam is in touch with Bharat Heavy Electrical
> Limited (BHEL), which supplied the generating units,
> so that repairs could be undertaken as soon as water
> is pumped out. Any delay could lead to rusting of
> machinery and it could be rendered irreparable.
>
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#1835 From: sanjay versain <s_versain@...>
Date:: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:02 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter NJPC Flooding-Generation likely stopped for 2 months
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HI,
 
I personally beleive big hydro projects do disturb the local ecology besides being potential disaster zones - both man-made and natural. I would prefer every village tapping the stream flowing nearby to meet their energy needs. And even if big projects have to be built, that should be done to benifit the locals first and then the outside world. Himachal is still not getting its due share from the NJPC projects and so is the case with other projects. i have visited a number of small and large projects throughout the state and could not see much change in the local economy. I wonder what happened to the govt's resolve to encourage people's cooperatives to produce power in Himachal. I hope it still happens. The fault lies with us common himachalis too - we don't have the guts to come together for a cause I suppose. So let's prey to the almighty that nothing goes wrong.........
 
regards,
sanjay


Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...> wrote:

Hi Sanjay
I thought i would like to mentione few pointers
regarding NJPC. This project is a gem in its final
technical execution. No two thoughts about that. I
have seen the thing shape up in front of my eyes.
Since i grew up there. The dam has always been from
the start bogged with numerous controversies.
Intially HPSEB(Himachal Pradesh State Electricty
Board) was supposed to build this dam. The  paper dam
as i would call it then was built only on huge tonnes
of papers and finally when CBI raided them. Huge cash
was found to be misplaced by te concerned officials. I
remember local legends as how "sone ki eent" i.e
bricks of golds were found in the toilets of corrupt
HPSEB officers. Heads were rolled.
There after the state govt. found that it is beyond
its capability in financial and technical terms to
execute this project. A very true assessment.
Afterwards the prject was given to a joint centre
state venture named NJPC with 75:25 equity stake. With
generous world bank support.
Some of the issues that raked up like cancellation of
loans by world bank, miscalculation of the dam height
by 2 metre which almost threatned to cut power
generation by half are nicely covered in this link.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmintdev/73/73ap02.htm

The final cost of the NJPC project was around 10,000
crores and not 50,000 crores. I dont think India can
afford a 50,000 crore project and such mega projects
are prone to environmental issues.

All said, NJPC is a welcome change to upper himachal.
What is desired is that the locals should be  given
more participation in the project through job
generation, scholarships for the local childrens,
building of good schools(NJPC did build a Delhi Public
School for its own staff), building up hospitals,
colleges. They have the infrastructure to put all that
in place and the money too.

NJPC is now going to execute Rampur Hydel project.
This project would involve boring of another head race
tunnel from Jhakri(the existing end point of NJPC
tunnel) to the power generation units near Rampur. The
project 400 MW in size is again huge.
Lets hope the mistakes of the past are not repeated.
And that the people of the region would benefit this
time atleast.

--- sanjay versain <s_versain@...> wrote:

> It is sad that the most embitious power project the
> country has build after independence is facing
> problems without even having started properly. I
> remember having visited the project as a journalism
> student while it was under construction. For me it
> was the greatest engineering marvel and it still is.
> What sadened me at that time was the amout of
> distruction being carried out to carve tunnels,
> roads, etc. In my next visit I found that everything
> had changed with very little signs of earth-removing
> activities. But I knew the hills on which I was
> standing were now empty housing huge machinery or
> carrying huge quantity of Satluj water. Still,
> everything seemed OK as the site itself had been
> beautified to a great extent.
> But today I realise it is not too easy to tame
> nature, whatever the effort, in this case more than
> Rs 50,000 crore rupees......
>
> Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...> wrote:
> Nathpa flooding: govt orders inquiry
> Rakesh Lohumi
> Tribune News Service
>
> Shimla, September 11
> Exactly a week after the underground power house of
> the 1500-MW Nathpa-Jhakri project was submerged due
> to
> bursting of labyrinth pipe the Government of India
> has
> ordered an inquiry into the incident.
>
> The inquiry will be conducted by a five-member
> committee of experts headed by the Chairman of the
> Central Electricity Authority. The committee will
> ascertain the causes responsible for the bursting of
> the pipe of the fourth generating unit, which led to
> backflow of water from tail pool into the power
> house
> on September 4. It will also pinpoint lapses, if
> any,
> and suggest corrective measures. The committee has
> been asked to submit its report within a month.
>
> Mr D.N. Padhy, Special Secretary, Union Ministry of
> Power, who has been camping at Jhakri for the past
> three days, held detailed talks with the management
> of
> the Sutlej Jal Vidyut Nigam. He underlined the need
> to
> bring the project back on the rails and resuming
> generation at the earliest.
>
> However, sources in the nigam said that the project
> could remain shut down for the next two months. The
> power house was still under 13 m of water and so far
> even the extent of damage to machinery could not be
> ascertained. The exact position would be known only
> after dewatering of the power house. The power
> supply
> unit, the battery unit and the control panel would
> have to be put in place again. The damaged labyrinth
> pipe and other damaged parts of turbines would also
> have to be replaced. All this would require time.
>
> The loss on account of loss of generation during the
> current financial year had touched Rs 450 crore till
> yesterday. As things stand at the moment, the
> project
> may not achieve even 50 per cent of the annual
> target
> of generating 6,950 million units and the total loss
> could touch Rs 800 crore.
>
> Meanwhile, the dewatering gained some momentum with
> the nigam pressing seven pumps, four in the tail
> pool
> and three inside the power house, to speed up
> operation. Water was being pumped out at 250 litres
> per second and more pumps were being deployed to
> achieve a pumping rate of 500 litres per second to
> complete the dewatering in the next six days.
>
> The nigam is in touch with Bharat Heavy Electrical
> Limited (BHEL), which supplied the generating units,
> so that repairs could be undertaken as soon as water
> is pumped out. Any delay could lead to rusting of
> machinery and it could be rendered irreparable.
>
>
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#1834 From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:18 am
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter NJPC Flooding-Generation likely stopped for 2 months
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Hi Sanjay
I thought i would like to mentione few pointers
regarding NJPC. This project is a gem in its final
technical execution. No two thoughts about that. I
have seen the thing shape up in front of my eyes.
Since i grew up there. The dam has always been from
the start bogged with numerous controversies.
Intially HPSEB(Himachal Pradesh State Electricty
Board) was supposed to build this dam. The  paper dam
as i would call it then was built only on huge tonnes
of papers and finally when CBI raided them. Huge cash
was found to be misplaced by te concerned officials. I
remember local legends as how "sone ki eent" i.e
bricks of golds were found in the toilets of corrupt
HPSEB officers. Heads were rolled.
There after the state govt. found that it is beyond
its capability in financial and technical terms to
execute this project. A very true assessment.
Afterwards the prject was given to a joint centre
state venture named NJPC with 75:25 equity stake. With
generous world bank support.
Some of the issues that raked up like cancellation of
loans by world bank, miscalculation of the dam height
by 2 metre which almost threatned to cut power
generation by half are nicely covered in this link.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmintdev/\
73/73ap02.htm

The final cost of the NJPC project was around 10,000
crores and not 50,000 crores. I dont think India can
afford a 50,000 crore project and such mega projects
are prone to environmental issues.

All said, NJPC is a welcome change to upper himachal.
What is desired is that the locals should be  given
more participation in the project through job
generation, scholarships for the local childrens,
building of good schools(NJPC did build a Delhi Public
School for its own staff), building up hospitals,
colleges. They have the infrastructure to put all that
in place and the money too.

NJPC is now going to execute Rampur Hydel project.
This project would involve boring of another head race
tunnel from Jhakri(the existing end point of NJPC
tunnel) to the power generation units near Rampur. The
project 400 MW in size is again huge.
Lets hope the mistakes of the past are not repeated.
And that the people of the region would benefit this
time atleast.

--- sanjay versain <s_versain@...> wrote:

> It is sad that the most embitious power project the
> country has build after independence is facing
> problems without even having started properly. I
> remember having visited the project as a journalism
> student while it was under construction. For me it
> was the greatest engineering marvel and it still is.
> What sadened me at that time was the amout of
> distruction being carried out to carve tunnels,
> roads, etc. In my next visit I found that everything
> had changed with very little signs of earth-removing
> activities. But I knew the hills on which I was
> standing were now empty housing huge machinery or
> carrying huge quantity of Satluj water. Still,
> everything seemed OK as the site itself had been
> beautified to a great extent.
> But today I realise it is not too easy to tame
> nature, whatever the effort, in this case more than
> Rs 50,000 crore rupees......
>
> Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...> wrote:
> Nathpa flooding: govt orders inquiry
> Rakesh Lohumi
> Tribune News Service
>
> Shimla, September 11
> Exactly a week after the underground power house of
> the 1500-MW Nathpa-Jhakri project was submerged due
> to
> bursting of labyrinth pipe the Government of India
> has
> ordered an inquiry into the incident.
>
> The inquiry will be conducted by a five-member
> committee of experts headed by the Chairman of the
> Central Electricity Authority. The committee will
> ascertain the causes responsible for the bursting of
> the pipe of the fourth generating unit, which led to
> backflow of water from tail pool into the power
> house
> on September 4. It will also pinpoint lapses, if
> any,
> and suggest corrective measures. The committee has
> been asked to submit its report within a month.
>
> Mr D.N. Padhy, Special Secretary, Union Ministry of
> Power, who has been camping at Jhakri for the past
> three days, held detailed talks with the management
> of
> the Sutlej Jal Vidyut Nigam. He underlined the need
> to
> bring the project back on the rails and resuming
> generation at the earliest.
>
> However, sources in the nigam said that the project
> could remain shut down for the next two months. The
> power house was still under 13 m of water and so far
> even the extent of damage to machinery could not be
> ascertained. The exact position would be known only
> after dewatering of the power house. The power
> supply
> unit, the battery unit and the control panel would
> have to be put in place again. The damaged labyrinth
> pipe and other damaged parts of turbines would also
> have to be replaced. All this would require time.
>
> The loss on account of loss of generation during the
> current financial year had touched Rs 450 crore till
> yesterday. As things stand at the moment, the
> project
> may not achieve even 50 per cent of the annual
> target
> of generating 6,950 million units and the total loss
> could touch Rs 800 crore.
>
> Meanwhile, the dewatering gained some momentum with
> the nigam pressing seven pumps, four in the tail
> pool
> and three inside the power house, to speed up
> operation. Water was being pumped out at 250 litres
> per second and more pumps were being deployed to
> achieve a pumping rate of 500 litres per second to
> complete the dewatering in the next six days.
>
> The nigam is in touch with Bharat Heavy Electrical
> Limited (BHEL), which supplied the generating units,
> so that repairs could be undertaken as soon as water
> is pumped out. Any delay could lead to rusting of
> machinery and it could be rendered irreparable.
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#1833 From: sanjay versain <s_versain@...>
Date:: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:39 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter NJPC Flooding-Generation likely stopped for 2 months
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It is sad that the most embitious power project the country has build after independence is facing problems without even having started properly. I remember having visited the project as a journalism student while it was under construction. For me it was the greatest engineering marvel and it still is. What sadened me at that time was the amout of distruction being carried out to carve tunnels, roads, etc. In my next visit I found that everything had changed with very little signs of earth-removing activities. But I knew the hills on which I was standing were now empty housing huge machinery or carrying huge quantity of Satluj water. Still, everything seemed OK as the site itself had been beautified to a great extent.
But today I realise it is not too easy to tame nature, whatever the effort, in this case more than Rs 50,000 crore rupees...... 

Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...> wrote:
Nathpa flooding: govt orders inquiry
Rakesh Lohumi
Tribune News Service

Shimla, September 11
Exactly a week after the underground power house of
the 1500-MW Nathpa-Jhakri project was submerged due to
bursting of labyrinth pipe the Government of India has
ordered an inquiry into the incident.

The inquiry will be conducted by a five-member
committee of experts headed by the Chairman of the
Central Electricity Authority. The committee will
ascertain the causes responsible for the bursting of
the pipe of the fourth generating unit, which led to
backflow of water from tail pool into the power house
on September 4. It will also pinpoint lapses, if any,
and suggest corrective measures. The committee has
been asked to submit its report within a month.

Mr D.N. Padhy, Special Secretary, Union Ministry of
Power, who has been camping at Jhakri for the past
three days, held detailed talks with the management of
the Sutlej Jal Vidyut Nigam. He underlined the need to
bring the project back on the rails and resuming
generation at the earliest.

However, sources in the nigam said that the project
could remain shut down for the next two months. The
power house was still under 13 m of water and so far
even the extent of damage to machinery could not be
ascertained. The exact position would be known only
after dewatering of the power house. The power supply
unit, the battery unit and the control panel would
have to be put in place again. The damaged labyrinth
pipe and other damaged parts of turbines would also
have to be replaced. All this would require time.

The loss on account of loss of generation during the
current financial year had touched Rs 450 crore till
yesterday. As things stand at the moment, the project
may not achieve even 50 per cent of the annual target
of generating 6,950 million units and the total loss
could touch Rs 800 crore.

Meanwhile, the dewatering gained some momentum with
the nigam pressing seven pumps, four in the tail pool
and three inside the power house, to speed up
operation. Water was being pumped out at 250 litres
per second and more pumps were being deployed to
achieve a pumping rate of 500 litres per second to
complete the dewatering in the next six days.

The nigam is in touch with Bharat Heavy Electrical
Limited (BHEL), which supplied the generating units,
so that repairs could be undertaken as soon as water
is pumped out. Any delay could lead to rusting of
machinery and it could be rendered irreparable.


           
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#1832 From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:10 am
Subject:: NJPC Flooding-Generation likely stopped for 2 months
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Nathpa flooding: govt orders inquiry
Rakesh Lohumi
Tribune News Service

Shimla, September 11
Exactly a week after the underground power house of
the 1500-MW Nathpa-Jhakri project was submerged due to
bursting of labyrinth pipe the Government of India has
ordered an inquiry into the incident.

The inquiry will be conducted by a five-member
committee of experts headed by the Chairman of the
Central Electricity Authority. The committee will
ascertain the causes responsible for the bursting of
the pipe of the fourth generating unit, which led to
backflow of water from tail pool into the power house
on September 4. It will also pinpoint lapses, if any,
and suggest corrective measures. The committee has
been asked to submit its report within a month.

Mr D.N. Padhy, Special Secretary, Union Ministry of
Power, who has been camping at Jhakri for the past
three days, held detailed talks with the management of
the Sutlej Jal Vidyut Nigam. He underlined the need to
bring the project back on the rails and resuming
generation at the earliest.

However, sources in the nigam said that the project
could remain shut down for the next two months. The
power house was still under 13 m of water and so far
even the extent of damage to machinery could not be
ascertained. The exact position would be known only
after dewatering of the power house. The power supply
unit, the battery unit and the control panel would
have to be put in place again. The damaged labyrinth
pipe and other damaged parts of turbines would also
have to be replaced. All this would require time.

The loss on account of loss of generation during the
current financial year had touched Rs 450 crore till
yesterday. As things stand at the moment, the project
may not achieve even 50 per cent of the annual target
of generating 6,950 million units and the total loss
could touch Rs 800 crore.

Meanwhile, the dewatering gained some momentum with
the nigam pressing seven pumps, four in the tail pool
and three inside the power house, to speed up
operation. Water was being pumped out at 250 litres
per second and more pumps were being deployed to
achieve a pumping rate of 500 litres per second to
complete the dewatering in the next six days.

The nigam is in touch with Bharat Heavy Electrical
Limited (BHEL), which supplied the generating units,
so that repairs could be undertaken as soon as water
is pumped out. Any delay could lead to rusting of
machinery and it could be rendered irreparable.



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Date:: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:30 am
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#1830 From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:21 am
Subject:: 2 days before bridge opened, tragedy struck
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‘Material failure’ behind bridge collapse
Army confirms 34 deaths

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050910/main3.htm

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2 days before bridge opened, tragedy struck
Ajay Banerjee
Tribune News Service

Lt-Col Amardeep Rana
Lt-Col Amardeep Rana

Chandigarh, September 9
About a month ago, a column of 200 men of the Army led by Lt-Col Amardeep Rana, moved out of Zirakpur, 7 km from here, to reconstruct bridges on the crucial National Highway 22 (Hindustan - Tibet road). Their families and friends could not have imagined that 30 men, including Colonel Rana, would meet a watery grave in the Sutlej while carrying out the arduous task.

After sending their equipment in trucks to Kinnaur, these men had been busy building the bridges, working under trying circumstances while risking their lives to reopen the road that is vital for defence and also the economy of the area. On September 10, the first bridge at Kharo was to be opened to light traffic. Just 48 hours before its opening, the bridge collapsed yesterday killing the men. The bridge, if completed, would have restored vehicular traffic on the road between Reckong Peo (the district headquarters of Kinnaur) and Pooh. Three days ago, this correspondent spoke to the authorities in Himachal Pradesh about progress on reconstructing the road links that had been damaged during the floods in the last week of June. Officials said Colonel Rana would be in a better position to speak on the matter and provide more details. On September 7, less than 24 hours before his death, the Colonel spoke to The Tribune and sounded confident of completing the bridges in accordance with the schedule. Being an Army man he was cautious while talking to the media. “I cannot give you all details but things should go as per schedule,” he said.

Men of the Army busy making the bridge that collapsed in Kinnaur on Thursday
Men of the Army busy making the bridge that collapsed in Kinnaur on Thursday. This photograph was taken on September 3. Lt-Col Amardeep Rana is second from right (facing the camera).

Since the plan was to do a story on the latest condition of the roads in Kinnaur, photographs were procured of the ongoing work. Tragedy struck yesterday morning. The same day a news item detailing the latest on the roads in Kinnaur was being prepared but was held back when news filtered in that the bridge had collapsed. After the tragedy, the photographs were enlarged on the computer to read the name tags of the officers and identify them.

The risk in building these bridges can be gauged from the fact that death stares one in the face. One wrong step and it means a drop into the swirling Sutlej below. In these areas of Kinnaur - bordering Tibet - the river cuts through sheer rock and runs through deep gorges where no one ventures. The river has a depth of more than 20 ft and flows furiously through this rocky terrain. Workers have to be perched at difficult locations virtually overhanging the river when they carry out their work.

In the past the Army has successfully built Bailey bridges in this remote Himalayan region.

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#1829 From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Fri Sep 9, 2005 12:14 pm
Subject:: New Orleans vs Mumbai
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Couldn’t' stop making this comparison for two recent calamity.....


inches of rain in new orleans due to hurricane katrina... 18
inches of rain in mumbai (July 27th).... 37.1

population of new orleans... 484,674
population of mumbai.... 12,622,500

deaths in new orleans within 48 hours of katrina...100
deaths in mumbai within 48hours of rain.. 37.

number of people to be evacuated in new orleans... entire city..wohh
number of people evacuated in mumbai...10,000

Cases of shooting and violence in new orleans...Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in mumbai.. NONE

Time taken for US army to reach new orleans... 48hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach mumbai...12hours

status 48hours later...new orleans is still waiting for relief, army and electricty
status 48hours later..mumbai is back on its feet and is business is as usual

USA...world's most developed nation
India...third world country..

oopss...did i get the last fact wrong???


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#1828 From: Sepel <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Fri Sep 9, 2005 3:13 am
Subject:: 33 Armymen feared dead in HP bridge collapse
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My heartfelt condolences to the families of the brave
soldiers who are no more. It is real unfortunate that
such luck befallen these brave men who were trying to
piece together the life of people in the remotest of
indian corner.
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Families wait as 33 Armymen feared dead in HP bridge
collapse
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CHANDIGARH, SHIMLA, SEPTEMBER 8: Hope shines through
Manreet’s tears. ‘‘Is he alright? Do you have any news
about my husband?’’ The dinner is laid on the table
but no one’s eating. ‘‘I will eat only after I hear
from Amardeep,’’ says Manreet’s mother-in-law.

At the Chandigarh home of Lt Col Amardeep Singh, one
of the 33 Army personnel swept away by the Sutlej
after the bridge they were working on collapsed today
at Kharo in Himachal’s Kinnaur district, the family
can only wait.

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Only five Armymen managed to swim to safety. By
evening, the Himachal government confirmed 20 deaths
but was unable to explain what led to the collapse of
the bridge.

Sumit Khimta, Kinnaur’s sub-divisional magistrate,
told The Indian Express over phone from Reckong Peo
that ‘‘chances of finding survivors are nil, the
bridge simply crumbled.’’ He, however, put the number
of personnel lost at 23. ‘‘Only those working at the
two ends of the bridge managed to make it to the
banks.’’

The bridge, crucial for strategic road communications
with Pooh, was nearing completion. The bridges at
Kharo, Akpa and Khab were among the dozen bridges
destroyed by the flash floods in Kinnaur two months
ago. The Army’s 18 Engineers had sent a contingent of
some 40 jawans to build a Bailey bridge at Kharo three
weeks ago.

‘‘The iron bridge was tested beforehand. But we are
told that the supporting pillars crumbled and the
entire bridge gave way,’’ said a jawan at Zirakpur,
the regiment station on Chandigarh’s outskirts.

He had just received a call from a fellow jawan’s
family in Kerala. ‘‘My friend is no more but how can I
tell them,’’ he said. Only one of the missing jawan’s
wife lives in the family quarters in Zirakpur, but she
too has not been told anything.

Sources in the Army said many of the bodies recovered
this evening had turned blue and were beyond
recognition. ‘‘We cannot inform the families until we
are sure of their identities,’’ an officer said.






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#1827 From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Thu Sep 8, 2005 7:24 am
Subject:: Can you beat this Resume??
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RESUME

EDUCATION /Qualification:

Stood first in BA (Hons), Economics, Panjab University, Chandigarh,
1952; Stood first in MA (Economics), Panjab University, Chandigarh,
1954; Wright's Prize for distinguished performance at St John's College,
Cambridge, 1955 and 1957; Wrenbury scholar, University of Cambridge,
1957; DPhil (Oxford), DLitt (Honoris Causa); PhD thesis on India's
export competitiveness

OCCUPATION /Teaching Experience:

Professor (Senior lecturer, Economics, 1957-59;
Reader, Economics, 1959-63;
Professor, Economics, Panjab University, Chandigarh, 1963-65; Professor,
International Trade, Delhi School of Economics,University of Delhi,
1969-71; Honorary professor Can , Jawaharlal Nehru University,New Delhi,
1976 and Delhi School of Economics, University of Delhi,1996 and Civil
Servant

WORK EXPERIENCE/ POSITIONS:

1971-72: Economic advisor, ministry of foreign trade

1972-76: Chief economic advisor, ministry of finance

1976-80: Director, Reserve Bank of India; Director, Industrial
Development Bank of India; Alternate governor for India, Board of
governors, Asian Development Bank; Alternate governor for India, Board
of governors, IBRD

November 1976 - April 1980: Secretary, ministry of finance (Department
of economic affairs); Member, finance, Atomic Energy Commission; Member,
finance, Space Commission

April 1980 - September 15, 1982: Member-secretary, Planning Commission

1980-83: Chairman, India Committee of the Indo-Japan joint study
committee September 16, 1982 - January 14, 1985: Governor, Reserve Bank
of India

1982-85: Alternate Governor for India, Board of governors,
International Monetary Fund

1983-84: Member, economic advisory council to the Prime Minister

1985: President, Indian Economic Association

January 15, 1985 - July 31, 1987: Deputy Chairman, Planning Commission

August 1, 1987 - November 10, 1990: Secretary-general and commissioner,
south commission, Geneva

December 10, 1990 - March 14, 1991: Advisor to the Prime Minister on
economic affairs

March 15, 1991 - June 20, 1991: Chairman, UGC

June 21, 1991 - May 15, 1996: Union finance minister

October 1991: Elected to Rajya Sabha from Assam on Congress ticket

June 1995: Re-elected to Rajya Sabha

1996 onwards: Member, Consultative Committee for the ministry of finance

August 1, 1996 - December 4, 1997: Chairman, Parliamentary standing
committee on commerce

March 21, 1998 onwards: Leader of the Opposition, Rajya Sabha

June 5, 1998 onwards: Member, com mittee on finance

August 13, 1998 onwards: Member, committee on rules

Aug 1998-2001: Member, committee of privileges 2000 onwards: Member,
executive committee, Indian parliamentary group

June 2001: Re-elected to Rajya Sabha

Aug 2001 onwards: Member, general purposes committee

BOOKS:

India's Export Trends and Prospects for Self-Sustained Growth -Clarendon
Press, Oxford University, 1964; also published a large number of
articles in various economic journals.

OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS:

Adam Smith Prize, University of Cambridge, 1956

Padma Vibhushan, 1987

Euro money Award, Finance Minister of the Year, 1993;

Asia money Award, Finance Minister of the Year for Asia, 1993 and 1994

INTERNATIONAL ASSIGNMENTS:

1966: E conomic Affairs Officer

1966-69: Chief, financing for trade section, UNCTAD

1972-74: Deputy for India in IMF Committee of Twenty on International
Monetary Reform

1977-79: Indian delegation to Aid-India Consortium Meetings

1980-82: Indo-Soviet joint planning group meeting

1982: Indo-Soviet monitoring group meeting

1993: Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting Cyprus 1993: Human
Rights World Conference, Vienna

RECREATION:

Gymkhana Club, New Delhi; Life Member, India International Centre, New
Delhi


DOB: September 26, 1932

Place of Birth: Gah (West Punjab)

Father: S. Gurmukh Singh

Mother: Mrs Amrit Kaur

Married on: September 14, 1958

Wife: Mrs Gursharan Kaur

Children: Three daughters

                              

                                   Name: Dr Manmohan Singh


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#1826 From: "ask me ...???" <titugrack@...>
Date:: Wed Sep 7, 2005 4:02 pm
Subject:: Re: Hi buddy..........
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--- In Shimlahangout@..., Hitesh Pal
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> Hi Hitesh,
             its nice to hear frm U. I'm frm Rampur Bushahr basically
from kotgarh.I'm working with ESRI Delhi, here in Surat on a GIS
consignment for devloping a GIS software for Gujarat Gas exploration
and Transmission network.
              Hey wat abt.U...  yeah my real name is Mahender.
tell som abt. urself

thanx& rgds
titugrack


hi TituGrack,
>                 iam Hitesh, from the same place. Hey
> how come u reached Gujrat......?
>                            Iam also a shimlaite, and
> presently studing in Pune. Read ure mail...i don't
> have any idea about the floods  uwere tal;kin gabout.
>                  U r from which place of
> Himachal?wahts ure real name? ure schoolin?
> ................Do let me know yaart........
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#1824 From: abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...>
Date:: Mon Sep 5, 2005 11:08 am
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hii  dear friends there is no need to worry about floods, n etc. i m also frm shimla n doing my graduation in punjab missin shimla very much so sharing with u
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#1823 From: Hitesh Pal <seavoyager1in@...>
Date:: Mon Sep 5, 2005 10:15 am
Subject:: Hi buddy..........
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hi TituGrack,
                 iam Hitesh, from the same place. Hey
how come u reached Gujrat......?
                            Iam also a shimlaite, and
presently studing in Pune. Read ure mail...i don't
have any idea about the floods  uwere tal;kin gabout.
                  U r from which place of
Himachal?wahts ure real name? ure schoolin?
................Do let me know yaart........
                               bye,
                                      with regards,
                                          Hitesh.

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#1822 From: "ask me ...???" <titugrack@...>
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Subject:: Hi all
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Hi all there . This is TituGrack a GIS engineer from Surat as i was
very worried abt. floods & its victims in upper himachal and i also
belong to that part of Hills and i'm missing the Hills too.its gr8 to
share all moments thru groups like this.

#1821 From: Vipin Mittal <mittalvipin@...>
Date:: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:48 am
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#1820 From: "Nitin" <bnityin@...>
Date:: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:39 pm
Subject:: Stuck At The Midnight Hour ....
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Independence—as an idea, a state of being, lived reality—means
nothing to the majority in India. The majority that does not ask for
or get anything in return.......
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?
fodname=20050822&fname=KInvisible+India&sid=1

For Ambedkar, Muslims were not the worst victims of the Hindu
society. They had a better deal compared to the untouchables...
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?
fodname=20050822&fname=DAnand+Teltumbde+%28F%29&sid=1

Hate has become respectable now. But Savarkar and Jinnah had
understood this maxim long ago...
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?
fodname=20050822&fname=CAshish+Nandy+%28F%29&sid=1

At this point in history, for the Indian PM to publicly and
officially declare himself an apologist for the British Empire is
pretty devastating. After a few cautious caveats in his speech,
Manmohan Singh thanked British Imperialism for everything India is
today. Ironically, at the top of his list was all the machinery of
repression put in place by a colonial regime—the bureaucracy, the
judiciary, the police, Rule of Law. He then went on to express
gratitude for the gift of the English language—the language that
separates India's elite from its fellow countrymen and binds its
imagination to the western world. Macaulay couldn't have asked for a
more dedicated disciple.  http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?
fodname=20050822&fname=IInterview+Arundhati&sid=1

In the great Amar Chitra Katha of the national imagination,
Partition is an archetypal tale of tragic heroes and scheming
villains, men who make sacrifices and others who betray. In this
story, Partition was a cataclysm visited upon the course of India's
destined history—those who brought it about were always others,
conspiring leaders and impassioned mobs, who together diverted us
from our path to freedom. The responsibility for Partition did not
lie with us, but with them... http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?
fodname=20050822&fname=AKhilnani+%28F%29&sid=1

#1819 From: ROHIT BAGGA <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Tue Aug 9, 2005 4:03 am
Subject:: Fwd: Bank ATM's Converted to Steal IDs of Bank Customers - BEWARE
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Divjot Singh <divjot.s@...> wrote:
Subject: Bank ATM's Converted to Steal IDs of Bank Customers - BEWARE
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 09:30:33 +0530
From: "Divjot Singh" <divjot.s@...>
To: <rbaggaca@...>,
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Bank ATM's Converted to Steal IDs of Bank Customers

A team of organized criminals are installing equipment on legitimate bank ATM's in at least 2 regions to steal both the ATM card number and the PIN. The team sits nearby in a car receiving the information transmitted wirelessly over weekends and evenings from equipment they install on the front of the ATM (see photos). If you see an attachment like this, do not use the ATM and report it immediately to the bank using the phone on the front of the ATM.

The equipment used to capture your ATM card number and PIN are cleverly disguised to look like normal ATM equipment. A "skimmer" is mounted to the front of the normal ATM card slot that reads the ATM card number and transmits it to the criminals sitting in a nearby car.

At the same time, a wireless camera is disguised to look like a leaflet holder and is mounted in a position to view ATM PIN entries.

The thieves copy the cards and use the PIN numbers to withdraw thousands from many accounts in a very short time directly from the bank ATM.



Equipment being installed on front of existing bank card slot.





The equipment as it appears installed over the normal ATM bank slot.





The PIN reading camera being installed on the ATM is housed in an innocent looking leaflet enclosure.



The camera shown installed and ready to capture PIN's by looking down on the keypad as you enter your PIN

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#1818 From: Avneet Patyal <avneet0023@...>
Date:: Mon Aug 8, 2005 5:42 am
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