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For the sake of continuing the discussion here is an excelent article on the issue...

Himachal for Himachalis?

#2002

From: "Nitin" <bnityin@...>
Date:: Sat Jul 1, 2006 6:36 am
Subject:: The ugly face of industralisation

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Foul play in DFO's murder

After the murders in Chamba where involovment of a officials of Construction companies is being reported here is another story of DFO, Nalagarh being found dead as he had not cleared the file for setting up of Hero Honda plant at Baddi where forest land with 8000 trees are being given to the company...

#2001

From: virender thakur <dearviren@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:36 am
Subject:: BBC E-mail: India bus crash 'claims 17 lives'

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virender thakur saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.

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shimla bus accident !!!!

** India bus crash 'claims 17 lives' **
At least 17 people are killed in a passenger bus crash in the northern Indian
state of Himachal Pradesh, police say.
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/5132650.stm >


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#2000

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:55 pm
Subject:: few things to remember

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"The army is now like Cinderella getting all the love
and attention but it won't be long before all is forgotten and it starts
receiving step-motherly treatment again."
Anuradha Mathur, 56 APO (India Today, July 26, 1999. Letters.)

"My soldierly instincts tell me that we must remain alert."
Gen. V P Malik, during the pullout operation by Pakistan, in an interview to CNN.

"After 65 years of being here, I have to prove my loyalty
to Thackeray."
Dilip Kumar, on being provoked by the Shiv Sena chief's demand to
return the Nishan-e-imtiaz award to Pakistan.

"The good news about Kargil is it united our nation;
the bad news is we lost young, brave soldiers;
the ugly part is the enemy refuses to accept its dead."
Maj. Gen. (Retd.) S P Makkar (India Today, August 2, 1999. Letters.)

"What strikes me is that one the one hand, both countries
are basically boasting about their success -- for domestic consumption.
And for the outside world, both say
they have been victims of aggression."
Stephen Cohen of the Brookings Institute in Washington DC, on the post-Kagil
situation in India and Pakistan.

"It appears to be a typographical error
but we express our sincere regrets."
Army spokesman Col. Shruti Kant, playing down the incident of the military
erroneously declaring Grenadier Y S Yadav dead and awarding him
a PVC posthumously.

"The enemy is such that it can't call its own men its own,
and it thus cannot be trusted."
Ge. V P Malik, Army Chief, saying that the war in Kargil was not yet over.

"A politician's smile is sinister, reflecting
his inner motives. But the soldier's is a tired yet contended one,
showing he has done his job."
Aravind Gowda from Bangalore in India Today, August 9, 1999.

"Go and kill a few more Pakastanis."
Nana Patekar, actor, asking Capt. S Jadhav in Drass to lose some weight
by killing the enemy.

"The difference between 1965, 1971 and now
is television. Leaders get on TV and say the most ridiculous things."
KPS Gill, former chief of Punjab police, about politicians
speaking on the Kargil war, in The Indian Express.

"Well, Islamabad has won the toss -- Delhi will dictate the rest of the match."
India Today editorial, June 7, 1999.

"I am sure our jawans at the front
must have been really overjoyed."
LK Advani, Home Minister, after India beat pakistan in the
Super Six encounter of the World Cup in cricket.

"I did not realize that the Lahore road would lead to Kargil."
AB Vajpayee, PM, asking why Pak had not raised doubts about
the LOC during his trip.

"Pakistan understands the language of bullets,
not peace and friendship."
Farooq Abdullah, J&K chief minister.

"I will not hesitate to send all my three sons to the front."
Santosh kanwar, widow of Kargil hero Mangej Singh.

"Why should I cry? Everyone dying there is my son."
Malti, mother of maj. R Adhikari, who died in Kargil.

"My contribution is nothing compared to what
the jawans are going through."
Rangarao V Pawar, who donated the Rs 5 lakh he had saved for
his daughter's wedding, to the disabled soldier's fund.

"When two countries are fighting it's veru hard to go out
and play on the cricket field."
Sachin tendulkar, cricketer.

"It is time our forces were allowed to cross the LOC
and liberate Pak-occupied Kashmir."
Kalyan Singh, Uttar pradesh CM.

"If Pakistan wants this to end in the battlefield, then it will go on."
George fernandes, defence minister, on the options before India
to end the war in Kargil.

"Hope the 'lest we forget' tribute to heroes
isn't turned into a 'best we forget' one by our leaders and babus after the war."
Wg. Cdr. SC Kapoor in India Today, Letters, July 12, 1999.

"Win the skirmish.
Win the battle.
Win the war."
An advt. slogan adopted by India Today.

"Mission Accomplished.
Let every Indian,
No matter who,
No matter where,
Take a pledge on this,
The 53rd Independence day,
To do his or her duty,
To the fullest,
To his or her family,
To society at large,
And to our great nation..."
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#1998

From: "Viplav Khoda" <khoda_viplav@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:45 am
Subject:: sad news

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more than 10 people died in an road accident in shimla.
most of them were on their daily commute to their offices and colleges.

its high time, insidents like these keep on happening very regularly.
Govt should see that speed rules are followed and drivers have propper
driving skills, now days it has become very easy to get license.
i think those driving commercial vechicals shouls me given special
traning and should also me subject of tests regularly.

#1997

From: viren singh <dearviren@...>
Date:: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:39 am
Subject:: I LOVE MY INDIA

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yes mr bagga i really apparciate you :0)

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#1996

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:33 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter I LOVE MY SHIMLA!

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hi abhishek

i think you should change either your view or way of expression. the word punjab really hurt me. i am agree with you that tourists are creating lots of problems in Himachal. but our state govt and we people are also failed to maintain the beauty of Himachal and playing major role to spoil the himachal's beauty . I still remember lots of people in my neighbourhood in my home city ( in Himachal ) had habit to dump garbage on rodsides instead of putting in garbage canns. also there is no recycle unit to get rid of garbage in proper manner so municipality dump the city's garbage in beautiful surrounding jungles. and it happen in almost every city and village they are not outsiders so what you says about them ? you can't stop people to get settle there like the same way nobody can stop you to settle in any other state like Punjab.

i am living in canada rigth now. born in punjab and belongs to punjabi family but moved in himachal when i was in 4th class. my father was supplier of water pumps, Diesel Engines and other mechanical goods to IPH & local farmers when i was not even born. hamirpur was just like a village that time and it was not even connected properly with roads. via Una was the best connecting road to hamirpur but still buses had to passes through Khads to get to Hamirpur.

but my father was hard working enough to keep supply continue to deptt. and villagers even in bad weather and seasons. he had to walk many kms to fix water supply schemes in interior locations. i don't wannt to go in detail but the one thing would like to mention that IPH incouraged my father to open branch office in hamirpur so that they could be in touch with my father in case of emergengy for spareparts. there was no other supplier that time. later on we moved in himachal i got my education in hamachal till graduation. i was founder member of HP Adventure Sports Association and also i was memebr and started few other socities in Hamirpur. i consider my self more himachal. i love it like a crazy. but even after spending more than 20 years of my life people used to call us punjabi and didn't accepted us. my father spend whole life in himachal but people liek you nerver accepted us and considers us outsiders, no matter how important role my father played there. most of the old water supply schemes in distt. hamirpur are started by my father.

now i am living in canada for many years but nobody ever asked form me that which country i am from. i want to go back and get settle in India and in himachal only not in punjab as i spent my life in himachal so feel close to himachal. even though most of my himachali friends are working and settled in punjab, chandigarh and delhi. don't you think punjab should be saved from outsiders like himachalis and bihari too ? i don't think so b'coz my mind is not dirty like others. moreover we live in a free country where anybody can move anywhere within country. but it hurts to me when i meet sick people like you. instead of blaming to outsides we himachalis should improve ourself 1st. if we could open recycle unit and follow home/building constructions bylaws we can save himachal. so stop blaming outsiders and get your brain fix 1st. after a long time i heard this outsiders word but even then i consider myself himachali and sick minded people like you can't change my identity. i don't like to yell at people and quite by nature but when meet people like you i can't stop myself. looks that you are not in himachal rigth now, may be you lives in abroad. how you feel if even after spending most of live in a diff. state of country you are considered as outsider of may be f.........indian ( i know how the descrimination level in UK is ) ?

i don't think dirty mind people like you shoould be given any plateform to express their sick opnion. so request everybody to bycott you and should be removed from the group otherwise i may have to think myself to cancell my subscription.

take care

abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...> wrote:

      hi friends,

                        abhishek here n hoping u all are fine.

   just to be clear one thing as mr. bagga asked!   outsiders, means people from others states like punjab etc. day by day showing their willingness to settle here.

so, in future it can be a great curse for himachali culture and environment.

with luv

abhishek

hi abhishek

i am agree with you we should save our himachal.

can you psl explain what does outsiders means ?

Rohit

abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...> wrote:

NAME                 ABHISHEK

PROFESSION     STUDENT(in jalandhar)

HOMELAND        HIMACHAL(SHIMLA)



hii to all himachali friends,

   plz save himachal from outsiders.

                                                         only we himachalis can do this!

    with luv

   abhishek

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#1995

From: viren singh <dearviren@...>
Date:: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:54 am
Subject:: I LOVE MY!(INDIA)

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mr abhishek think about our great india not regional,
i am also himachali , one thing i would like to say
you when you are outside your country you think your
are indian, not hiamchali or punjabi...so be loyal to
india and try to terminate this block of memory of
this regionalism and castism.
hope india is future in coming years, we have make it
great.
--- abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...> wrote:

> NAME                 ABHISHEK
>   PROFESSION     STUDENT(in jalandhar)
>   HOMELAND        HIMACHAL(SHIMLA)
>
>
>   hii  to all himachali friends,
>      plz save himachal from outsiders.
>
>       only we himachalis can do this!
>       with luv
>      abhishek
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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#1994

From: abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...>
Date:: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:02 am
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter I LOVE MY SHIMLA!

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hi friends,

abhishek here n hoping u all are fine.

just to be clear one thing as mr. bagga asked! outsiders, means people from others states like punjab etc. day by day showing their willingness to settle here.

so, in future it can be a great curse for himachali culture and environment.

with luv

abhishek

hi abhishek

i am agree with you we should save our himachal.

can you psl explain what does outsiders means ?

Rohit

abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...> wrote:

NAME                 ABHISHEK

PROFESSION     STUDENT(in jalandhar)

HOMELAND        HIMACHAL(SHIMLA)



hii to all himachali friends,

   plz save himachal from outsiders.

                                                         only we himachalis can do this!

    with luv

   abhishek

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#1993

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:42 am
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter I LOVE MY SHIMLA!

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hi abhishek

i am agree with you we should save our himachal.

can you psl explain what does outsiders means ?

Rohit

abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...> wrote:

NAME                 ABHISHEK

PROFESSION     STUDENT(in jalandhar)

HOMELAND        HIMACHAL(SHIMLA)



hii to all himachali friends,

   plz save himachal from outsiders.

                                                         only we himachalis can do this!

    with luv

   abhishek

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#1992

From: abhishek vaid <sheki_sheki2002@...>
Date:: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:24 am
Subject:: I LOVE MY SHIMLA!

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NAME ABHISHEK

PROFESSION STUDENT(in jalandhar)

HOMELAND HIMACHAL(SHIMLA)

hii to all himachali friends,

plz save himachal from outsiders.

only we himachalis can do this!

with luv

abhishek

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#1991

From: "nareshguptajee" <ibc@...>
Date:: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:06 am
Subject:: shimla-the beautiful gem

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Since,My college days,ist time in OCT,1971 I had visited the Shimla, at
that time it was a very peacful place of living.
Since than I came regularly after 3-4 years.
Recently I had again visited Shimla in Feb,2006, a nos.of chanes have
been find.
It is still worth of living in the Valley.
Please take some govt.assistance in civic amenties. On circular roa, a
nos.of pot-holes are there on the Road.Some Rallings are missing.

More on the next visit.

#1990

From: "viren thakur" <dearviren@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:42 am
Subject:: hi freindz

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hi to all
i really miss the days when i use to visit shimla univeristy cmapus
and company callled Freshfield Communications,i really miss the
beautiful lanscape of my shimla
some time i compare my beautiful town of  spain to shimla with my
freinds here in madrid just to refresh my memories.
just expression !!!!!!!!!!!

#1989

From: "kaushal k. garg" <newkota_2000@...>
Date:: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:54 am
Subject:: my information as below

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Name--- Kaushal k. garg

Profession---- private job

city---- kota (rajasthan)

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#1988

From: "Viplav Khoda" <khoda_viplav@...>
Date:: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:34 am
Subject:: Bones in Gaiety Theatre

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this site has reported workers found bones at Gaiety Theatre

here link to the news

#1987

From: "n_kkaushik" <n_kkaushik@...>
Date:: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:38 am
Subject:: I LOVE MY SHIMLA!

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Name  Neeraj

Proffesion In india Dentist In America student plus working in a Call
Centre.

Place    USA

Passion  I WILL DIE INDIAN AND WILL ALWAYS LOVE SHIMLA WHERE EVER I AM.

MASSAGE   LIFE IS WORTH LIVING ACCEPT THE CHALLENGES AND SHOW WORLD
YOUR WORTH AND ALWAYS LOVE YOUR PARENTS.
BE SOMEONR IN YOUR OWN EYES AND NOT IN THE EYES OF WORLD.

#1986

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:38 pm
Subject:: My Beautiful Land Himachal

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#1985

From: kant sharma <sharma_kamal2002@...>
Date:: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:07 am
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter Details

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my name:  kamal

profession:engineer

place: chandigarh


Kamal Kant Sharma

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#1984

From: "Ak" <akhilp19@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:41 pm
Subject:: Hercules MTB Himachal 2006

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Dear Friends
My name is Akhil and i'm from the team putting together MTB Himachal
2006 - The Himalayan Enduro. This event is in its second year and
would be held from 4th October, 2006 to 13th October, 2006 in the
Himalayan backcountry. Starting from Shimla,India and would end in
Manali, India. For further details visit www.mtbhimachal.com(under
updation,latest info by next week) or feel free to contact me.

MTB Himachal 2006
The Himalayan experience


Moderator's Note:

Hi Akhil.. Thanxs for posting.. Last year was a great effort.. This year lookout
for some new trails.. Like the Tikkar.. Nankhari.. Nirath trail is a good one..
Also when starting from Shilaru.. take the trail to Khalot and then onwards to
Narkanda.. This event is a great effort.. Thanx to your team...

#1983

From: Divya Sood <divyasood11@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:51 am
Subject:: Details

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Name- Divya

Profession- Student

City of Residence- Chandigarh

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#1982

From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:16 pm
Subject:: Manali in a mess

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Manali in a mess
Kuldeep Chauhan

Manali is in a mess which is becoming worse every year. Hordes of tourists, health magicians from Rajsthan, sex workers, migrant traders from Chandni Chowk and pheriwalas from Jammu and Kashmir and migrant labourers and beggars from the plains and over 10,000 tourist vehicle- all pushing the carrying capacity of the town to unrepairable limits.

The tourists are taking back bitter memories of the traffic jams and the potholed roads and local residents face traffic hazards daily as the bypass roads and the two bridge projects aimed to decongest this haphazardly developed hill station have yet to see the light of day. The residents say that everybody is taking something from Manali, but nobody is contributing to save the town from death and decay.

The biggest offenders are planners and the Manali Nagar Panchayat, which have contributed to the mushroom growth in this hill station for the past 26 years. The big multi-roomed haphazard concrete monsters�hotels�have rapped this tourist town beyond repair. Now, these monsters have spread their tentacles into its surroundings: Solang valley, Nasogi, Dungri, Kanihal, Old Manali, Vashisht, Prini, Aleo and other suburban villages.

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#1981

From: "Nitin" <bnityin@...>
Date:: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:29 pm
Subject:: Re: ski resort in HP

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Dear Viplav

All is not so well with the Ski Village in Kullu valley. The dieties are still divided. No doubt it will be a massive investement to the state and the locals will benefit but the project has been politicised with the BJP talking all together different tune.

I wish this project should be given a go-ahead and the Govt must look into introducing the Chanshal ranges in Rohru to the same concept. If only the Raja of Kullu would not see the whole project as his political waterloo..

Nitin

--- In Shimlahangout@..., "Viplav Khoda" <khoda_viplav@y...> wrote:
>
>
> good or bad, Himachal govt has given its go ahead for building ski reort in Kullu.

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#1980

From: "Moderator, ShimlaHangout" <shimlahangout@...>
Date:: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:14 am
Subject:: HRTC's miracle..!!!

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Check out this time table for the HRTC A/c Volvo from Delhi to Manali. They amazingly depart from Kullu even before they arrive & they reach Manali twice!!!!

And what is 24:30 on that time table? I though after 23.59 we get 00?

When will the sarkari babus get a bit more IT savy?? and stop making themselves laughing stock in front of the whole world...

http://himachal.gov.in/hrtc/rmap.asp?link=3020002

HRTC TIME TABLE
ROUTE DETAIL

DELHI TO MANALI [AC VOLVO]

Place
Arrival Departure Distance Fare (in Rs)

DELHI
-- 20:26 PM -- --

AMBALA
24:26 PM
24:30 PM
200 Kms
Rs 260 /-

CHANDIGARH
0:00 AM
0:00 AM
260 Kms
Rs 350 /-

BILASPUR
3:45 AM
3:50 AM
400 Kms
Rs 550 /-

SUNDERNAGAR
5:15 AM
5:20 AM
442 Kms
Rs 635 /-

MANDI
6:00 AM
6:50 AM
473 Kms
Rs 655 /-

KULLU
8:50 AM
8:30 AM
547 Kms
Rs 765 /-

MANALI
10:00 AM
16:00 PM
0 Kms
Rs 0 /-

MANALI
10:30 AM -- 587 Kms Rs 825 /-

(Fare is from Originating Station)

Attention: Kindly confirm with HRTC Inquiry Office User Interface by NIC-HP

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#1979

From: "abi_k123" <abi_k123@...>
Date:: Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:29 am
Subject:: how ru frds!

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frds,i have always loved nature and what can b the better place than
the great haimalays, the gadwal region and other places , shimla is
really the heart of all the natural paradises . frds , i wud like to
hear from you people many diferent aspects of that place , at present
i'm doing mba and i'm also interested in ornithology,and bird
watching , i've won a best birder award by wwwf-india, frds, there is
lot to b said .....i want to share with u many things , but my exams r
going to start on 24th of june06, im really worried i have to complete
my portion  and i'm a bit scare frds , plese give me some tips for
preparing my papers.............. i will wait for ur reply thanks , god
bles you all!         bye take care

#1978

From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Mon Jun 5, 2006 2:59 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter Digest Number 668

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A very interesting piece nityin. Thnx for frowarding.

Regards,

Tenzin

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: NITYIN
Subject: Vir Sanghvi on Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs

Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs (cont.)

Counterpoint | Vir Sanghvi

June 4, 2006

... Nobody in the BJP wants the facts to get out: that the powerful PS of a man they all now claim would have been Prime Minister one day not only did cocaine but also procured cocaine for his leader�s family, hardly reflects well on the party. If the rumours about cellphone records - and the coke dealers whose numbers appear on them - are true, then this tends to confirm what we always suspected: that the crores that were illegally collected by the Safdarjung Road gang went into drinks, drugs and wild partying.

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#1977

From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Sun Jun 4, 2006 6:24 am
Subject:: Vir Sanghvi on Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs

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Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs (cont.)

Counterpoint | Vir Sanghvi

June 4, 2006

... Nobody in the BJP wants the facts to get out: that the powerful PS of a man they all now claim would have been Prime Minister one day not only did cocaine but also procured cocaine for his leader�s family, hardly reflects well on the party. If the rumours about cellphone records - and the coke dealers whose numbers appear on them - are true, then this tends to confirm what we always suspected: that the crores that were illegally collected by the Safdarjung Road gang went into drinks, drugs and wild partying.

The Full Story: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1712532,00300001.htm

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#1976

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Wed May 31, 2006 12:44 pm
Subject:: Take Care of Your Heart

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What are the five thumb rules for a layman to take care of his heart?
Dr Devi Shetty:
1. Diet - Less of carbohydrate, more of protein, less oil
2. Exercise - Half an hour's walk, at least five days a week; avoid lifts and avoid sitting for a longtime
3. Quit smoking
4. Control weight
5. Control blood pressure and sugar
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Is eating non-veg food (fish) good for the heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: No
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It's still a grave shock to hear that some apparently healthy person gets a cardiac arrest. How do we understand it in perspective?
Dr Devi Shetty: This is called silent attack; that is why we recommend everyone past the age of 30 to undergo routine health checkups.
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Are heart diseases hereditary?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes
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What are the ways in which the heart is stressed? What practices do you suggest to de-stress?
Dr Devi Shetty: Change your attitude towards life. Do not look for perfection in everything in life.
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Is walking better than jogging or is more intensive exercise required to keep a healthy heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: Walking is better than jogging since jogging leads to early fatigue and injury to joints
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You have done so much for the poor and needy. What has inspired you to do so?
Dr Devi Shetty: Mother Theresa, who was my patient.
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Can people with low blood pressure suffer heart diseases?
Dr Devi Shetty: Extremely rare
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Does cholesterol accumulates right from an early age (I'm currently only 22) or do you have to worry about it only after you are above 30 years of age?
Dr Devi Shetty: Cholesterol accumulates from childhood.
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How do irregular eating habits affect the heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: You tend to eat junk food when the habits are irregular and your body's enzyme release for digestion gets confused.
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How can I control cholesterol content without using medicines?
Dr Devi Shetty: Control diet, walk and eat walnut.
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Can yoga prevent heart ailments?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yoga helps.
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Which is the best and worst food for the heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: Best food is fruits worst are oil.
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Which oil is better - gingili, groundnut, sunflower, saffola, olive?
Dr Devi Shetty: All oils are bad; the so-called best oil company has the largest marketing budget.
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What is the routine checkup one should go through? Is there any specific test?
Dr Devi Shetty: Routine blood test to ensure sugar, cholesterol is ok. Check BP, Treadmill test after an echo.
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How different was it in treating Noor Fatima, the little kid from Pakistan?
Dr Devi Shetty: It was extremely difficult, Because of the media attention. As far as the medical treatment is concerned, she is like any other child
with a complex heart problem.
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What are the first aid steps to be taken on a heart attack?
Dr Devi Shetty: Help the person into a sleeping position, put an aspirin tablet under the tongue with a sorbitrate tablet if available, and rush him
to a coronary care unit since the maximum casualty takes place within the first hour.
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How do you differentiate between pain caused by a heart attack and that caused due to gastric trouble?
Dr Devi Shetty: Extremely difficult without ECG.
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What is the main cause of a steep increase in heart problems amongst youngsters? I see people of about 30-40 yrs of age having heart attacks and serious
heart problems.
Dr Devi Shetty: Increased awareness has increased incidents. Also, edentary lifestyles, smoking, junk food, lack of exercise in a country where people are genetically three times more vulnerable for heart attacks than Europeans and Americans.
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Is it possible for a person to have BP outside the normal range of 120/80 and yet be perfectly healthy?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes.
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Marriages within close relatives can lead to heart problems for the child. Is it true?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes, co-sanguinity leads to congenital abnormalities and you may not have a software engineer as a child
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Many of us have an irregular daily routine and many a times we have to stay late nights in office. Does this affect our heart? What precautions would you recommend?
Dr Devi Shetty: When you are young, nature protects you against all these irregularities. However, as you grow older, respect the biological clock.
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Will taking anti-hypertensive drugs cause some other complications (short / long term)?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes, most drugs have some side effects. However, modern anti-hypertensive drugs are extremely safe.
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Will consuming more coffee/tea lead to heart attacks?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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Are asthma patients more prone to heart disease?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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How would you define junk food?
Dr Devi Shetty: Fried food like Kentucky, McDonalds, samosas, and even masala dosas.
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You mentioned that Indians are three times more vulnerable. What is the reason for this, as Europeans and Americans also eat a lot of junk food?
Dr Devi Shetty: Every race is vulnerable to some disease and unfortunately, Indians are vulnerable for the most expensive disease.
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Does consuming bananas help reduce hypertension?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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Can a person help himself during a heart attack (Because we see a lot of forwarded emails on this)?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes. Lie down comfortably and put an aspirin tablet of any description under the tongue and ask someone to take you to the nearest coronary
care unit without any delay and do not wait for the ambulance since most of the time, the ambulance does not turn up.
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Do, in any way, low white blood cells and low hemoglobin count lead to heart problems?
Dr Devi Shetty: No. But it is ideal to have normal hemoglobin level to increase your exercise capacity.
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Sometimes, due to the hectic schedule we are not able to exercise. So, does walking while doing daily chores at home or climbing the stairs in the house, work as a substitute for exercise?
Dr Devi Shetty: Certainly. Avoid sitting continuously for more than half an hour and even the act of getting out of the chair and going to another chair and sitting helps a lot.
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Is there a relation between heart problems and blood sugar?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes. A strong relationship since diabetics are more vulnerable to heart attacks than non-diabetics.
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What are the things one needs to take care of after a heart operation?
Dr Devi Shetty: Diet, exercise, drugs on time. Control cholesterol, BP, weight.
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Are people working on night shifts more vulnerable to heart disease when compared to day shift workers?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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What are the modern anti-hypertensive drugs?
Dr Devi Shetty: There are hundreds of drugs and your doctor will chose the right combination for your problem, but my suggestion is to avoid the drugs and
go for natural ways of controlling blood pressure by walk, diet to reduce weight and changing attitudes towards lifestyles.
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Does dispirin or similar headache pills increase the risk of heart attacks?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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Why is the rate of heart attacks more in men than in women?
Dr Devi Shetty: Nature protects women till the age of 45.
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How can one keep the heart in a good condition?
Dr Devi Shetty: Eat a healthy diet, avoid junk food, exercise everyday, do not smoke and, go for a health checkup if you are past the age of 30 for at least once in two yrs. And work very hard...
Enjoy.....Life..........

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#1975

From: "Viplav Khoda" <khoda_viplav@...>
Date:: Tue May 30, 2006 4:45 pm
Subject:: ski resort in HP

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good or bad, Himachal govt has given its go ahead for building ski reort in Kullu. U might remember some time last year there was a 'maha adalat' of 'devta' in kullu which rejected any such plans

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#1974

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Fri May 26, 2006 6:50 pm
Subject:: Recognising Diwali by mainstream peoples of USA THROUGH DIWALI Stamps Issue.....

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Dear Friends,

If Diwali is part of your family and community cultural heritage from times immemorial and if you feel in your heart and soul that Diwali should be known and recognized by the mainstream peoples of USA the kindly inform the USPS so....as explained below....

Diwali is an important Indian festival, and USPS (US Postal Service) is considering issuing stamps for this occasion. USPS has stamps for other festivals too like Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Eid, and Chinese New Year. To do this, USPS needs 500,000 signatures to have a stamp release, and so far 280,000+ people have signed the petition. Please go to the site below and if you agree with the cause kindly support the release of the Diwali stamp.

HYPERLINK

http://www.petitiononline.com/diwali03/

Thanks you......

Also, kindly forward widely to others who would support this. One does not need to be of Indian origin or resident in USA to sign the petition. So let's get the Diwali stamp issued!

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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 06:35:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Fwd:Recognising Diwali by mainstream peoples of USA THROUGH DIWALI Stamps Issue.....
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Subject: FW: Recognising Diwali by mainstream peoples of USA THROUGH DIWALI Stamps Issue.....

Please seek support from all your friends and other contacts.

Dear Friends,

If Diwali is part of your family and community cultural heritage from times immemorial and if you feel in your heart and soul that Diwali should be known and recognized by the mainstream peoples of USA the kindly inform the USPS so....as explained below....

Diwali is an important Indian festival, and USPS (US Postal Service) is considering issuing stamps for this occasion. USPS has stamps for other festivals too like Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Eid, and Chinese New Year. To do this, USPS needs 500,000 signatures to have a stamp release, and so far 280,000+ people have signed the petition. Please go to the site below and if you agree with the cause kindly support the release of the Diwali stamp.

HYPERLINK

http://www.petitiononline.com/diwali03/

Thanks you......

Also, kindly forward widely to others who would support this. One does not need to be of Indian origin or resident in USA to sign the petition. So let's get the Diwali stamp issued!
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#1973

From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Sat May 13, 2006 4:10 am
Subject:: Organic farming is the only way for the apple farmers

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Organic farming is the only way for the apple farmers of Himachal Pradesh to make an impact in the global market as their output has been dropping due to the use of chemical fertiliser.

So says a team of Swiss and Indian experts who have just ended their field trip to the hill state to raise awareness about the need for adopting organic farming.

Apple is the main cash crop of Himachal Pradesh and, along with neighbouring Jammu and Kashmir and Uttaranchal, the state accounts for almost the entire apple production of the country.

But the Indian apple is not able to compete with the best in the international market as its quality is far behind the fruit grown by organic methods particularly in countries like Switzerland.

"The heavy use of chemical fertiliser and pesticide by Himachal apple farmers has degraded the soil of the orchards and damaged the ecosystem. Because of that the inputs have been going up, but the output has been dropping steadily for farmers," said Samuel B. Moser, a Swiss expert.

"The pattern is the same in Jammu and Kashmir and Uttaranchal as well," Moser added.

"During our weeklong awareness campaign we surprisingly found 80 farmers already practising organic farming on the orchards with good results. But this is only a microscopic minority," said Tej Pratap Singh, executive director of the International Competency Centre for Organic Farming in Bangalore.

"Actually the advantage of adopting organic farming is twofold as it reduces cost and raises production," Singh said.

"Even though the state government has done little to promote and manufacture organic fertiliser, farmers can take the initiative and produce organic manure on their farms," said Singh.

The experts said the Indian apple must be produced organically instead of chemically on a large scale in order to compete in the international market.

This would not only fetch higher returns but help in greatly restoring the eco-system damaged due to the use of harmful chemical fertiliser and pesticide.

"China, the world's largest producer of apples, has already started producing the fruit with the help of organic farming in a big way as it is more in demand in the international market. So must India," said Singh.

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