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#1987

From: "n_kkaushik" <n_kkaushik@...>
Date:: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:38 am
Subject:: I LOVE MY SHIMLA!

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Name  Neeraj

Proffesion In india Dentist In America student plus working in a Call
Centre.

Place    USA

Passion  I WILL DIE INDIAN AND WILL ALWAYS LOVE SHIMLA WHERE EVER I AM.

MASSAGE   LIFE IS WORTH LIVING ACCEPT THE CHALLENGES AND SHOW WORLD
YOUR WORTH AND ALWAYS LOVE YOUR PARENTS.
BE SOMEONR IN YOUR OWN EYES AND NOT IN THE EYES OF WORLD.

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#1986

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:38 pm
Subject:: My Beautiful Land Himachal

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#1985

From: kant sharma <sharma_kamal2002@...>
Date:: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:07 am
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter Details

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my name:  kamal

profession:engineer

place: chandigarh


Kamal Kant Sharma

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#1984

From: "Ak" <akhilp19@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:41 pm
Subject:: Hercules MTB Himachal 2006

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Dear Friends
My name is Akhil and i'm from the team putting together MTB Himachal
2006 - The Himalayan Enduro. This event is in its second year and
would be held from 4th October, 2006 to 13th October, 2006 in the
Himalayan backcountry. Starting from Shimla,India and would end in
Manali, India. For further details visit www.mtbhimachal.com(under
updation,latest info by next week) or feel free to contact me.

MTB Himachal 2006
The Himalayan experience


Moderator's Note:

Hi Akhil.. Thanxs for posting.. Last year was a great effort.. This year lookout
for some new trails.. Like the Tikkar.. Nankhari.. Nirath trail is a good one..
Also when starting from Shilaru.. take the trail to Khalot and then onwards to
Narkanda.. This event is a great effort.. Thanx to your team...

#1983

From: Divya Sood <divyasood11@...>
Date:: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:51 am
Subject:: Details

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Name- Divya

Profession- Student

City of Residence- Chandigarh

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#1982

From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:16 pm
Subject:: Manali in a mess

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Manali in a mess
Kuldeep Chauhan

Manali is in a mess which is becoming worse every year. Hordes of tourists, health magicians from Rajsthan, sex workers, migrant traders from Chandni Chowk and pheriwalas from Jammu and Kashmir and migrant labourers and beggars from the plains and over 10,000 tourist vehicle- all pushing the carrying capacity of the town to unrepairable limits.

The tourists are taking back bitter memories of the traffic jams and the potholed roads and local residents face traffic hazards daily as the bypass roads and the two bridge projects aimed to decongest this haphazardly developed hill station have yet to see the light of day. The residents say that everybody is taking something from Manali, but nobody is contributing to save the town from death and decay.

The biggest offenders are planners and the Manali Nagar Panchayat, which have contributed to the mushroom growth in this hill station for the past 26 years. The big multi-roomed haphazard concrete monsters�hotels�have rapped this tourist town beyond repair. Now, these monsters have spread their tentacles into its surroundings: Solang valley, Nasogi, Dungri, Kanihal, Old Manali, Vashisht, Prini, Aleo and other suburban villages.

The Full Story...

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#1981

From: "Nitin" <bnityin@...>
Date:: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:29 pm
Subject:: Re: ski resort in HP

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Dear Viplav

All is not so well with the Ski Village in Kullu valley. The dieties are still divided. No doubt it will be a massive investement to the state and the locals will benefit but the project has been politicised with the BJP talking all together different tune.

I wish this project should be given a go-ahead and the Govt must look into introducing the Chanshal ranges in Rohru to the same concept. If only the Raja of Kullu would not see the whole project as his political waterloo..

Nitin

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> good or bad, Himachal govt has given its go ahead for building ski reort in Kullu.

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#1980

From: "Moderator, ShimlaHangout" <shimlahangout@...>
Date:: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:14 am
Subject:: HRTC's miracle..!!!

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Check out this time table for the HRTC A/c Volvo from Delhi to Manali. They amazingly depart from Kullu even before they arrive & they reach Manali twice!!!!

And what is 24:30 on that time table? I though after 23.59 we get 00?

When will the sarkari babus get a bit more IT savy?? and stop making themselves laughing stock in front of the whole world...

http://himachal.gov.in/hrtc/rmap.asp?link=3020002

HRTC TIME TABLE
ROUTE DETAIL

DELHI TO MANALI [AC VOLVO]

Place
Arrival Departure Distance Fare (in Rs)

DELHI
-- 20:26 PM -- --

AMBALA
24:26 PM
24:30 PM
200 Kms
Rs 260 /-

CHANDIGARH
0:00 AM
0:00 AM
260 Kms
Rs 350 /-

BILASPUR
3:45 AM
3:50 AM
400 Kms
Rs 550 /-

SUNDERNAGAR
5:15 AM
5:20 AM
442 Kms
Rs 635 /-

MANDI
6:00 AM
6:50 AM
473 Kms
Rs 655 /-

KULLU
8:50 AM
8:30 AM
547 Kms
Rs 765 /-

MANALI
10:00 AM
16:00 PM
0 Kms
Rs 0 /-

MANALI
10:30 AM -- 587 Kms Rs 825 /-

(Fare is from Originating Station)

Attention: Kindly confirm with HRTC Inquiry Office User Interface by NIC-HP

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#1979

From: "abi_k123" <abi_k123@...>
Date:: Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:29 am
Subject:: how ru frds!

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frds,i have always loved nature and what can b the better place than
the great haimalays, the gadwal region and other places , shimla is
really the heart of all the natural paradises . frds , i wud like to
hear from you people many diferent aspects of that place , at present
i'm doing mba and i'm also interested in ornithology,and bird
watching , i've won a best birder award by wwwf-india, frds, there is
lot to b said .....i want to share with u many things , but my exams r
going to start on 24th of june06, im really worried i have to complete
my portion  and i'm a bit scare frds , plese give me some tips for
preparing my papers.............. i will wait for ur reply thanks , god
bles you all!         bye take care

#1978

From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Mon Jun 5, 2006 2:59 pm
Subject:: Re: Shimla - Newsletter Digest Number 668

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A very interesting piece nityin. Thnx for frowarding.

Regards,

Tenzin

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: NITYIN
Subject: Vir Sanghvi on Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs

Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs (cont.)

Counterpoint | Vir Sanghvi

June 4, 2006

... Nobody in the BJP wants the facts to get out: that the powerful PS of a man they all now claim would have been Prime Minister one day not only did cocaine but also procured cocaine for his leader�s family, hardly reflects well on the party. If the rumours about cellphone records - and the coke dealers whose numbers appear on them - are true, then this tends to confirm what we always suspected: that the crores that were illegally collected by the Safdarjung Road gang went into drinks, drugs and wild partying.

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#1977

From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Sun Jun 4, 2006 6:24 am
Subject:: Vir Sanghvi on Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs

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Pimps, fixers & tentwallahs (cont.)

Counterpoint | Vir Sanghvi

June 4, 2006

... Nobody in the BJP wants the facts to get out: that the powerful PS of a man they all now claim would have been Prime Minister one day not only did cocaine but also procured cocaine for his leader�s family, hardly reflects well on the party. If the rumours about cellphone records - and the coke dealers whose numbers appear on them - are true, then this tends to confirm what we always suspected: that the crores that were illegally collected by the Safdarjung Road gang went into drinks, drugs and wild partying.

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#1976

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Wed May 31, 2006 12:44 pm
Subject:: Take Care of Your Heart

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What are the five thumb rules for a layman to take care of his heart?
Dr Devi Shetty:
1. Diet - Less of carbohydrate, more of protein, less oil
2. Exercise - Half an hour's walk, at least five days a week; avoid lifts and avoid sitting for a longtime
3. Quit smoking
4. Control weight
5. Control blood pressure and sugar
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Is eating non-veg food (fish) good for the heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: No
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It's still a grave shock to hear that some apparently healthy person gets a cardiac arrest. How do we understand it in perspective?
Dr Devi Shetty: This is called silent attack; that is why we recommend everyone past the age of 30 to undergo routine health checkups.
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Are heart diseases hereditary?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes
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What are the ways in which the heart is stressed? What practices do you suggest to de-stress?
Dr Devi Shetty: Change your attitude towards life. Do not look for perfection in everything in life.
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Is walking better than jogging or is more intensive exercise required to keep a healthy heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: Walking is better than jogging since jogging leads to early fatigue and injury to joints
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You have done so much for the poor and needy. What has inspired you to do so?
Dr Devi Shetty: Mother Theresa, who was my patient.
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Can people with low blood pressure suffer heart diseases?
Dr Devi Shetty: Extremely rare
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Does cholesterol accumulates right from an early age (I'm currently only 22) or do you have to worry about it only after you are above 30 years of age?
Dr Devi Shetty: Cholesterol accumulates from childhood.
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How do irregular eating habits affect the heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: You tend to eat junk food when the habits are irregular and your body's enzyme release for digestion gets confused.
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How can I control cholesterol content without using medicines?
Dr Devi Shetty: Control diet, walk and eat walnut.
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Can yoga prevent heart ailments?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yoga helps.
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Which is the best and worst food for the heart?
Dr Devi Shetty: Best food is fruits worst are oil.
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Which oil is better - gingili, groundnut, sunflower, saffola, olive?
Dr Devi Shetty: All oils are bad; the so-called best oil company has the largest marketing budget.
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What is the routine checkup one should go through? Is there any specific test?
Dr Devi Shetty: Routine blood test to ensure sugar, cholesterol is ok. Check BP, Treadmill test after an echo.
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How different was it in treating Noor Fatima, the little kid from Pakistan?
Dr Devi Shetty: It was extremely difficult, Because of the media attention. As far as the medical treatment is concerned, she is like any other child
with a complex heart problem.
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What are the first aid steps to be taken on a heart attack?
Dr Devi Shetty: Help the person into a sleeping position, put an aspirin tablet under the tongue with a sorbitrate tablet if available, and rush him
to a coronary care unit since the maximum casualty takes place within the first hour.
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How do you differentiate between pain caused by a heart attack and that caused due to gastric trouble?
Dr Devi Shetty: Extremely difficult without ECG.
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What is the main cause of a steep increase in heart problems amongst youngsters? I see people of about 30-40 yrs of age having heart attacks and serious
heart problems.
Dr Devi Shetty: Increased awareness has increased incidents. Also, edentary lifestyles, smoking, junk food, lack of exercise in a country where people are genetically three times more vulnerable for heart attacks than Europeans and Americans.
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Is it possible for a person to have BP outside the normal range of 120/80 and yet be perfectly healthy?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes.
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Marriages within close relatives can lead to heart problems for the child. Is it true?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes, co-sanguinity leads to congenital abnormalities and you may not have a software engineer as a child
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Many of us have an irregular daily routine and many a times we have to stay late nights in office. Does this affect our heart? What precautions would you recommend?
Dr Devi Shetty: When you are young, nature protects you against all these irregularities. However, as you grow older, respect the biological clock.
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Will taking anti-hypertensive drugs cause some other complications (short / long term)?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes, most drugs have some side effects. However, modern anti-hypertensive drugs are extremely safe.
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Will consuming more coffee/tea lead to heart attacks?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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Are asthma patients more prone to heart disease?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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How would you define junk food?
Dr Devi Shetty: Fried food like Kentucky, McDonalds, samosas, and even masala dosas.
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You mentioned that Indians are three times more vulnerable. What is the reason for this, as Europeans and Americans also eat a lot of junk food?
Dr Devi Shetty: Every race is vulnerable to some disease and unfortunately, Indians are vulnerable for the most expensive disease.
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Does consuming bananas help reduce hypertension?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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Can a person help himself during a heart attack (Because we see a lot of forwarded emails on this)?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes. Lie down comfortably and put an aspirin tablet of any description under the tongue and ask someone to take you to the nearest coronary
care unit without any delay and do not wait for the ambulance since most of the time, the ambulance does not turn up.
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Do, in any way, low white blood cells and low hemoglobin count lead to heart problems?
Dr Devi Shetty: No. But it is ideal to have normal hemoglobin level to increase your exercise capacity.
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Sometimes, due to the hectic schedule we are not able to exercise. So, does walking while doing daily chores at home or climbing the stairs in the house, work as a substitute for exercise?
Dr Devi Shetty: Certainly. Avoid sitting continuously for more than half an hour and even the act of getting out of the chair and going to another chair and sitting helps a lot.
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Is there a relation between heart problems and blood sugar?
Dr Devi Shetty: Yes. A strong relationship since diabetics are more vulnerable to heart attacks than non-diabetics.
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What are the things one needs to take care of after a heart operation?
Dr Devi Shetty: Diet, exercise, drugs on time. Control cholesterol, BP, weight.
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Are people working on night shifts more vulnerable to heart disease when compared to day shift workers?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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What are the modern anti-hypertensive drugs?
Dr Devi Shetty: There are hundreds of drugs and your doctor will chose the right combination for your problem, but my suggestion is to avoid the drugs and
go for natural ways of controlling blood pressure by walk, diet to reduce weight and changing attitudes towards lifestyles.
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Does dispirin or similar headache pills increase the risk of heart attacks?
Dr Devi Shetty: No.
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Why is the rate of heart attacks more in men than in women?
Dr Devi Shetty: Nature protects women till the age of 45.
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How can one keep the heart in a good condition?
Dr Devi Shetty: Eat a healthy diet, avoid junk food, exercise everyday, do not smoke and, go for a health checkup if you are past the age of 30 for at least once in two yrs. And work very hard...
Enjoy.....Life..........

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#1975

From: "Viplav Khoda" <khoda_viplav@...>
Date:: Tue May 30, 2006 4:45 pm
Subject:: ski resort in HP

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good or bad, Himachal govt has given its go ahead for building ski reort in Kullu. U might remember some time last year there was a 'maha adalat' of 'devta' in kullu which rejected any such plans

more HERE (little slow loading link)

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#1974

From: RBagga <rbaggaca@...>
Date:: Fri May 26, 2006 6:50 pm
Subject:: Recognising Diwali by mainstream peoples of USA THROUGH DIWALI Stamps Issue.....

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Dear Friends,

If Diwali is part of your family and community cultural heritage from times immemorial and if you feel in your heart and soul that Diwali should be known and recognized by the mainstream peoples of USA the kindly inform the USPS so....as explained below....

Diwali is an important Indian festival, and USPS (US Postal Service) is considering issuing stamps for this occasion. USPS has stamps for other festivals too like Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Eid, and Chinese New Year. To do this, USPS needs 500,000 signatures to have a stamp release, and so far 280,000+ people have signed the petition. Please go to the site below and if you agree with the cause kindly support the release of the Diwali stamp.

HYPERLINK

http://www.petitiononline.com/diwali03/

Thanks you......

Also, kindly forward widely to others who would support this. One does not need to be of Indian origin or resident in USA to sign the petition. So let's get the Diwali stamp issued!

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Subject: FW: Recognising Diwali by mainstream peoples of USA THROUGH DIWALI Stamps Issue.....

Please seek support from all your friends and other contacts.

Dear Friends,

If Diwali is part of your family and community cultural heritage from times immemorial and if you feel in your heart and soul that Diwali should be known and recognized by the mainstream peoples of USA the kindly inform the USPS so....as explained below....

Diwali is an important Indian festival, and USPS (US Postal Service) is considering issuing stamps for this occasion. USPS has stamps for other festivals too like Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Eid, and Chinese New Year. To do this, USPS needs 500,000 signatures to have a stamp release, and so far 280,000+ people have signed the petition. Please go to the site below and if you agree with the cause kindly support the release of the Diwali stamp.

HYPERLINK

http://www.petitiononline.com/diwali03/

Thanks you......

Also, kindly forward widely to others who would support this. One does not need to be of Indian origin or resident in USA to sign the petition. So let's get the Diwali stamp issued!
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#1973

From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Sat May 13, 2006 4:10 am
Subject:: Organic farming is the only way for the apple farmers

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Organic farming is the only way for the apple farmers of Himachal Pradesh to make an impact in the global market as their output has been dropping due to the use of chemical fertiliser.

So says a team of Swiss and Indian experts who have just ended their field trip to the hill state to raise awareness about the need for adopting organic farming.

Apple is the main cash crop of Himachal Pradesh and, along with neighbouring Jammu and Kashmir and Uttaranchal, the state accounts for almost the entire apple production of the country.

But the Indian apple is not able to compete with the best in the international market as its quality is far behind the fruit grown by organic methods particularly in countries like Switzerland.

"The heavy use of chemical fertiliser and pesticide by Himachal apple farmers has degraded the soil of the orchards and damaged the ecosystem. Because of that the inputs have been going up, but the output has been dropping steadily for farmers," said Samuel B. Moser, a Swiss expert.

"The pattern is the same in Jammu and Kashmir and Uttaranchal as well," Moser added.

"During our weeklong awareness campaign we surprisingly found 80 farmers already practising organic farming on the orchards with good results. But this is only a microscopic minority," said Tej Pratap Singh, executive director of the International Competency Centre for Organic Farming in Bangalore.

"Actually the advantage of adopting organic farming is twofold as it reduces cost and raises production," Singh said.

"Even though the state government has done little to promote and manufacture organic fertiliser, farmers can take the initiative and produce organic manure on their farms," said Singh.

The experts said the Indian apple must be produced organically instead of chemically on a large scale in order to compete in the international market.

This would not only fetch higher returns but help in greatly restoring the eco-system damaged due to the use of harmful chemical fertiliser and pesticide.

"China, the world's largest producer of apples, has already started producing the fruit with the help of organic farming in a big way as it is more in demand in the international market. So must India," said Singh.

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#1971

From: "Moderator, ShimlaHangout" <shimlahangout@...>
Date:: Mon May 1, 2006 5:20 am
Subject:: Take care!

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OK! Bye then. Nice being with you. Take care, huh?�

�It was great talking to you and catching up. Now you�d better keep in touch. Bye sweetie, take care!�

�Dear Mom, this is just a short mail to tell you that I�m doing fine here. Couldn�t catch up with you earlier but I�ll be more in touch now. Bye. Love you. Take care!�

This �take care� business bamboozles me. Take care of what? Everyone is always advising everyone else to take care. So am I to take care to lock the gate after they have left? Or am I to take care to dust my shoes on the doormat before I enter my house? Or must I take care to modulate my voice to an acceptable level when I speak to the servant?

Perhaps it�s all about appearance! I should be taking care to wear clean and ironed clothes or should I take care to brush my teeth before I go to bed? Aha! Got it. I�ve got to take care to groom my pet dog. Or maybe, I should take care to cover the milk pateela.

I was finally a bit irritated with this phrase after I�d been asked 18 times that day to �take care, haan!�. I demanded of the last �take carers� just what it was that I was supposed to be taking care of?

�It�s just a phrase� they replied. �Why get so hassled about it? Just chill yaar!�

CHILL! That�s another one of those phrases! Chill what? Chill the milk? Chill the coke? Chill the water? Its funny how all these �phrases� just leave you dangling midair. What do they mean? Where do they come from? How come the world is using them with impunity with nobody challenging them?

I decided to enquire of one of my friend in the Department of English in Panjab University. Surely the academia was concerned about this insouciant use of phrases that left you floundering for meaning.

�Oh, yes. One has noticed the use of such new-age phrases among the metropolitan English speakers,� said she �But why let it disturb you? Let it go. Enjoy!�

Oh! Does it ever end? Enjoy? Enjoy what? Enjoy a movie? Enjoy a walk? Enjoy some golguppas at the chaatwalas? How could such unqualified �phrases� have acquired such significance in the Queen�s language?

I finally convinced myself that I shouldn�t react so strongly at what were after all only �signing off� phrases which started as being �different� for most users. Too bad they are getting so overused and as such, clich�d and dull, dull, dull.

Guess I�ve got to be happy with that. Ciao then. Be seeing you. Till then, chill, enjoy and do take care, haan?

Take care
by Aradhika

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#1970

From: "Moderator, ShimlaHangout" <shimlahangout@...>
Date:: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:10 am
Subject:: Re: Pesticide / Chandigarh musings

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Was away for more than a week due to some pressing matter at Chandigarh...

Yes Tenzin.. absolutely true... there is a pesticide for everything and whoever said.. "an apple a day.. keeps a doctor away" must be turning upside down in the grave.. :-))

Apple farming is on the downslide and the average crop is getting lesser and lesser each year. Other than the traditional apple growing belts, new orchards have not come up other than the Karsog Valley. Karsog Valley is going to be the next apple belt of Himachal Pradesh.

Ten years down the line the older apple belt will be finished. No new plantation has succeeded in this area. People will have to look for alternatives and move towards other stone fruits. The economics of farming has gone very high. Small farmers in the area I live, are now moving to collective farming to share costs. These farmers are selling produce directly to cold store chains right in there farms to save on packaging and transportation costs.

The biggest problem with farming is there is no proper mechanism of selling. A farmer is at the complete mercy of the arthiya and has to accept whatever is offered. The rates offered when compared to the input cost is minimal.. Labor inputs have sky rocketed since the disturbance in Nepal..

Talking of the Vision-2015, the Govt. doesn't have a vison for tomorrow morning, what to speak of 2015. The babus and the netas will chip in only when they get scent of the money.. The packaging box being manufactured by the Govt costs more after the subsidy than the one being sold by Zirakpur based manufacturers right at your doorstep and the quality is a notch higher. The Govt should bring in a white paper on the subsidy offered on agriculture till date... That would be the mother of all scandels!!!

Moving to another topic, I was in Chandigarh for a week... The temprature has shot up and coming from 9,500 feet in the hills it was brutal on my body to take up all the heat for a couple of days.. I did noticed a very pecular thing on the roads. Almost every vehicle waived by the traffic police for checking bears HP registration number.. In a weeks time my papers were checked almost 20 times, to speak off!!! I found the cops pounding on HP numbers with the famous cheeky grin.. asking for papers of all sorts

.... reminds me my days in Mumbai when the Pandu would never stop my bike on a single entry road with no sign and another pandu standing on the other end.. asking for money... aiilla.. but then they never discriminated on any particular state number vehicles... They beleived in One India, and would collect money from all MH, GJ, MP, AP numbers.. :-))

Comparatively moving out on Chandigarh roads had become pain as in a day twice or thrice my papers would get checked.. Has it happened with other guys? Would like to hear more stories and see if something could be done to avoid this harrasment..

Coming back to 9500 feet has always been welcome.. There is still chill in the breeze.. the flowers are all pink.. the water as fresh as ever and no pandus in over 20 km in the area...

Thanks for reading all along

Regards

Nitin

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Date:: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:34 am
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#1967

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Date:: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:31 pm
Subject:: Re: spiti unleasehed.....

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#1966

From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:42 pm
Subject:: Re: Pesticide trade may be privatised

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Private or Govt pesticides. It is finally the farmers who need more awareness. i will talk more about apples since i know more abt that.

While there are some farmers who just wont use pesticides and let their crop go black and brown. There are others who would just use anything which comes to market.

Even without govt pesticdes, private pesticides are in the market for ages now. Govt pesticdes are never in stock when one needs them most. Now if one goes to private shop, there is just pesticide for everything. For making leaves greener, for making falling of leaves stop, for making apples redder, for making them small and sometimes large in size, for dropping extra apple buds in flowering stage, pesticides to remove weed around the ground, You name it and there is pesticide for everything.

I have seen all of them doing brisk sale. Sometimes to the peril of apple crop. A small farmer goes to the shop and seeing these fancy pesticudes, they come back buying something different from what they went to buy.

With the near absoulte surety of cheap chinese apple flooding the indian market in near time. I am not sure how Himachali apples will face the middle class indian market. Already American, New Zeland and Australian apple is giving sleepless nights and has snatched high end market from Kinnaur Apples. And they compete mostly in organic apples category. Our himachali apples cant even be exported because most of them would be too toxic with pesticides.

Someohow now its time for himachal govt to come up with a whitepaper on APPLE 2015. Where do they see Himachal Apple in 10 years time and how they plan to do it. Just simply letting farmers let lose with pesticide is not the answer. Finally what we will end up blowing away is our Apple crop.

Regards

Tenzin

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:16:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: NITYIN
Subject: Pesticide trade may be privatised

Here is some good news for the farmers in the state as the Govt is considering to move away from the pesticide trade. There have been complaints of companies even pushing expired pesticides by repacking and selling through the Govt agencies causing heavy losses to the farmers. Procuring and selling of pesticides had become a money making racket for some of the employees in the Govt.. Also since after signing of the MOU with the Central Govt, the state Govt is in no position to sell this garbage in the name of subsidy to the farmers..

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From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:16 am
Subject:: Pesticide trade may be privatised

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Here is some good news for the farmers in the state as the Govt is considering to move away from the pesticide trade. There have been complaints of companies even pushing expired pesticides by repacking and selling through the Govt agencies causing heavy losses to the farmers. Procuring and selling of pesticides had become a money making racket for some of the employees in the Govt.. Also since after signing of the MOU with the Central Govt, the state Govt is in no position to sell this garbage in the name of subsidy to the farmers..

Check out the full story..

Pesticide trade may be privatised
Tribune News Service

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Date:: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:27 am
Subject:: "Pls Read it, It's very Important"

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#1963

From: Tenzin <tenzin_iitb@...>
Date:: Sun Apr 9, 2006 7:54 pm
Subject:: Re: Spammers on cellphone!!!!!!!

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Hi Nityin

I think it is really unfortunate and disturbing to go through this.

I ll suggest that you ask him to meet you. And tender in written an apology saying he is sorry and he means it. And next time if he does that again. You will turn him to police. If he wants his mother to be there, fine enough. The mothers are awalys sensible and this will make sure such sort of unruly behaviour doesnt happen.

Thing is if he is sorry and he means it. He would not repeat the behaviour. But if he takes it that you are not taking things seriously and you are easily forgiving. Then this thing might possibly happen again.

Reporting to police as an FIR would only make police act on it. But that would also means all sort of hassles for you too. You know how it is. Best way is to resolve it amicably yet firmly.

Regards

Tenzin

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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: NITYIN
Subject: Spammers on cellphone!!!!!!!

Hi folks

Some guys have been calling my wife on her cellfone and speaking all kind of trash for the past one month..... I did a little detective work and have traced down the number which is from a different district... Today I talked to the guy and he was literally crying and begged not to report to him to the police as he claimed he was a student...

These chaps have made our lives hell for the past one month... Today even his mother asked not to report the matter to the police... but what about our lives when we were listneing to all the trash for entire month... Shall I report to the matter to the Police or the guy is trying to save his skin....??

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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:48:14 -0000
From: "viplav"
Subject: Re: Spammers on cellphone!!!!!!!

hi Nityin,

this is really sad that youth of our county try these kinds of thing
to get some kick out of it. May be the real reason is that that guy
is a dunb, or y else someone call on a cell phone when whole world
knows that the called person gets the nmber flashed on his screa.

Reporting to the police might not help, as police in our beloved
country is never intrested in solving any thing. Maybe only thing
that you can do is to tell that guy that you know some big shot
police officee in his area and that should frighten him.

on the other hand during my school days i had also given some
cranked calls, but thank god caller id or cell phones were not
available at that time.
lucky me

regards
viplav k
--- In Shimlahangout@..., NITYIN wrote:
>
> Hi folks
>
> Some guys have been calling my wife on her cellfone and speaking
all kind of trash for the past one month..... I did a little
detective work and have traced down the number which is from a
different district... Today I talked to the guy and he was literally
crying and begged not to report to him to the police as he claimed
he was a student...
>
> These chaps have made our lives hell for the past one month...
Today even his mother asked not to report the matter to the
police... but what about our lives when we were listneing to all the
trash for entire month... Shall I report to the matter to the Police
or the guy is trying to save his skin....??
>
>
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#1962

From: "viplav" <khoda_viplav@...>
Date:: Sat Apr 8, 2006 6:48 pm
Subject:: Re: Spammers on cellphone!!!!!!!

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hi Nityin,

this is really sad that youth of our county try these kinds of thing
to get some kick out of it. May be the real reason is that that guy
is a dunb, or y else someone call on a cell phone when whole world
knows that the called person gets the nmber flashed on his screa.

Reporting to the police might not help, as police in our beloved
country is never intrested in solving any thing. Maybe only thing
that you can do is to tell that guy that you know some big shot
police officee in his area and that should frighten him.

on the other hand during my school days i had also given some
cranked calls, but thank god caller id or cell phones were not
available at that time.
lucky me

regards
viplav k
--- In Shimlahangout@..., NITYIN <bnityin@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi folks
>
>   Some guys have been calling my wife on her cellfone and speaking
all kind of trash for the past one month..... I did a little
detective work and have traced down the number which is from a
different district... Today I talked to the guy and he was literally
crying and begged not to report to him to the police as he claimed
he was a student...
>
>   These chaps have made our lives hell for the past one month...
Today even his mother asked not to report the matter to the
police... but what about our lives when we were listneing to all the
trash for entire month... Shall I report to the matter to the Police
or the guy is trying to save his skin....??
>
>
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#1961

From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Sat Apr 8, 2006 6:24 pm
Subject:: Spammers on cellphone!!!!!!!

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Hi folks

Some guys have been calling my wife on her cellfone and speaking all kind of trash for the past one month..... I did a little detective work and have traced down the number which is from a different district... Today I talked to the guy and he was literally crying and begged not to report to him to the police as he claimed he was a student...

These chaps have made our lives hell for the past one month... Today even his mother asked not to report the matter to the police... but what about our lives when we were listneing to all the trash for entire month... Shall I report to the matter to the Police or the guy is trying to save his skin....??

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From: NITYIN <bnityin@...>
Date:: Sat Apr 8, 2006 7:42 am
Subject:: CAG pulls up HP Govt

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Failure to achieve target set by 11th Finance Commission

The latest report of the CAG presented in the House today revealed that the fiscal liabilities almost doubled from Rs 8,621 crore in 2000-01 to Rs 16,533 in 2004-05 and the annual interest liability shot up from Rs 597 crore to Rs 1,641 crore over the period.

The average growth rate of interest payment came to 21.08 per cent. In addition, the state had given guarantees, which stood at Rs 4,751 crore. The government could not maintain the minimum cash balance with the Reserve Bank of India and obtained ways and means advances of Rs 1,579 crore on 93 days and overdraft of Rs 320 crore on 27 days.

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Date:: Thu Apr 6, 2006 8:27 am
Subject:: A tale of two Indias

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A gated development for the subcontinent's super-rich ... and a funeral for a cotton farmer, forced into suicide because of spiralling poverty. India's economic growth is dazzling but, in the new, globalised era, its inequalities are becoming even more polarised, discovers Randeep Ramesh

A blue-suited Boris Becker strokes his chin, shakes his head and speaks into the lens. "No, no. I'm sorry, I can't think of any place I like to live in as much as this place." Flanked by wooden, Swiss-style chalets and manicured, verdant lawns the former Wimbledon champion then saunters off, presumably to find his place. The advert, which has been shown repeatedly on Indian television screens for the past month, promotes the impression that Becker wants to live the rest of his life in the shadow of the Sahyadri Hills, an oasis of greenery in the dust of the Indian state of Maharashtra.

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#1958

From: "zep1983" <vineet83@...>
Date:: Wed Apr 5, 2006 8:40 am
Subject:: pics frm recent simla trip

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took some time off amidst the hectic semester schedule and visited
parents last week. the weather wasnt a typical late-march one, but the
entire scene wud be a treat for eyes fter the drizzles. my nokia 6670
did a wonderful job in jotting down every bit of it ...

http://www.ee.iitb.ac.in/uma/~vineetk/1/
(some of the zoomed ones may appear a little hazy ... the rest r okay)

rgds,
vineet

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I've been inclined to believe it never would

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