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#3020 From: Jay Warner at AT_T <jay.warner3@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:35 am
Subject:: Re: problem
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"if height increases weight also increases"  IF and ONLY IF this is how height and weight are connected - linked.

First we ask a question:  does weight depend on height?  Or, is the price of airtel linked to the price of hci?  Then we can work out a way to collect data, and test to see if the connection is actually there.  But if you don't ask that question first, the rest of it doesn't make a lot of sense.  And weight does not _always_ go up with height, any more than the ratio of two stocks always goes up.

the stock question is a bit more complicated, since it looks like the question is, "how fast in time does the ratio of the two stocks increase?"  There is an assumption there that the ratio is increasing.  We have to test for that, and maybe regression would do OK for that.  But also, the question seems to assume that the ratio is increasing over time - days.  We would have to collect the data so that we could test for that, too.  This would be a time series type regression, and it would test to see if the stock price, or ratio of prices, went up, and how quickly.

Suppose it does go up as expected.  Did the ratio go up because the price of the other stock stayed low or went down, or because the airtel price went up very fast?  Maybe we want to look at the price of just one stock - Neha would have to decide that.  Did the ratio go up because of something else that happened in the same time?  Probably.  But we have no idea what that was, or when it will do the same thing again, because we didn't use that data in the time series regression.

So unless Neha _knows_ that one stock _causes_ the ratio to change, the regression is not going to tell him when the ratio will reach 2 the next time.  A regression analysis does NOT tell you what causes things to happen.  It suggests how things relate.  It takes very careful work to determine what a real cause is.

So Neha, do your time series regression, and maybe just plain regression, but keep your wits about you.

Good luck on this problem, and cheers,
Jay
On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:48:09 PM, Tirumala B wrote:


hai neha, you can use regression models. 
 
in regression if hieght increses weight also increases, if hieght decreases weight decreses
 
so, it is Y on X......u can use this model....i think......bye

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] problem
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 4:35 AM

hi all,
i am new member of this community. i have a problem and want its solution as soon as possible. we have two companies share closing prices of each day. like for airtel and hcl. so when airtel shares increase hcl increase and vice versa. let sometimes airtel:hcl ratio is 1.5 and sometimes its 2 or somewhat. so i want to know how many days it will take to go from 1.5 to 2??? kindly suggest me some papers or study material to go for solving it.


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#3019 From: vishwesh haldavanekar <vishwesh_s_h@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:13 am
Subject:: Re: problem
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Hi Neha,
 
I dont think its a Time series problem, because in time series we use "time" to forecast a particular parameter and not vice versa.
 
Here I will say going with any Quantitative forecasting methods will not help you. There are various Qualitative Forecasting methods which you need to use.
E.g. Delphi Method or Cross impact analysis.
 
Thank you,
Vishwesh

Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...> wrote:
yea, its time series data. we have daily closing prices of 2 companies and their ratios as data. even model is been fit. but now how to go for finding number of days?

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_group] problem
To: Statisticians_group@yahoogroups.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 12:13 PM

Hi,
I guess Time Series Model will be a solution.... but depends on the available backdata.... model needs a good amount of paramiter understanding & may be complicacy(? )....

Thanks & Regards,
Subho.
 
Subhabrata Bhattacharya
Contact : +91 9725946977
             bhuttasubha@ gmail.com
 


--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 10:55 AM

hi,
no.. but the thing is we want to calculate number of days it takes to go from increased ratio 2(say) to MEAN ratio 1.5(say). regression model will only let us know value of airtel for given value of hcl or vice versa. but main question is about how many days it will take??

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Tirumala B <b.tirumala@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Tirumala B <b.tirumala@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 10:18 AM


hai neha, you can use regression models. 
 
in regression if hieght increses weight also increases, if hieght decreases weight decreses
 
so, it is Y on X......u can use this model....i think......bye

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 4:35 AM

hi all,
i am new member of this community. i have a problem and want its solution as soon as possible. we have two companies share closing prices of each day. like for airtel and hcl. so when airtel shares increase hcl increase and vice versa. let sometimes airtel:hcl ratio is 1.5 and sometimes its 2 or somewhat. so i want to know how many days it will take to go from 1.5 to 2??? kindly suggest me some papers or study material to go for solving it.


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#3018 From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:00 am
Subject:: Re: problem
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yea, its time series data. we have daily closing prices of 2 companies and their ratios as data. even model is been fit. but now how to go for finding number of days?

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@...> wrote:
From: subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@...>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_group] problem
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 12:13 PM

Hi,
I guess Time Series Model will be a solution.... but depends on the available backdata.... model needs a good amount of paramiter understanding & may be complicacy(? )....

Thanks & Regards,
Subho.
 
Subhabrata Bhattacharya
Contact : +91 9725946977
             bhuttasubha@ gmail.com
 


--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 10:55 AM

hi,
no.. but the thing is we want to calculate number of days it takes to go from increased ratio 2(say) to MEAN ratio 1.5(say). regression model will only let us know value of airtel for given value of hcl or vice versa. but main question is about how many days it will take??

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Tirumala B <b.tirumala@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Tirumala B <b.tirumala@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 10:18 AM


hai neha, you can use regression models. 
 
in regression if hieght increses weight also increases, if hieght decreases weight decreses
 
so, it is Y on X......u can use this model....i think......bye

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 4:35 AM

hi all,
i am new member of this community. i have a problem and want its solution as soon as possible. we have two companies share closing prices of each day. like for airtel and hcl. so when airtel shares increase hcl increase and vice versa. let sometimes airtel:hcl ratio is 1.5 and sometimes its 2 or somewhat. so i want to know how many days it will take to go from 1.5 to 2??? kindly suggest me some papers or study material to go for solving it.


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#3017 From: subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:43 am
Subject:: Re: problem
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Hi,
I guess Time Series Model will be a solution....but depends on the available backdata....model needs a good amount of paramiter understanding & may be complicacy(?)....

Thanks & Regards,
Subho.
 
Subhabrata Bhattacharya
Contact : +91 9725946977
             bhuttasubha@...
 


--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_group] problem
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 10:55 AM

hi,
no.. but the thing is we want to calculate number of days it takes to go from increased ratio 2(say) to MEAN ratio 1.5(say). regression model will only let us know value of airtel for given value of hcl or vice versa. but main question is about how many days it will take??

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Tirumala B <b.tirumala@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Tirumala B <b.tirumala@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 10:18 AM


hai neha, you can use regression models. 
 
in regression if hieght increses weight also increases, if hieght decreases weight decreses
 
so, it is Y on X......u can use this model....i think......bye

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 4:35 AM

hi all,
i am new member of this community. i have a problem and want its solution as soon as possible. we have two companies share closing prices of each day. like for airtel and hcl. so when airtel shares increase hcl increase and vice versa. let sometimes airtel:hcl ratio is 1.5 and sometimes its 2 or somewhat. so i want to know how many days it will take to go from 1.5 to 2??? kindly suggest me some papers or study material to go for solving it.


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#3016 From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:25 am
Subject:: Re: problem
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hi,
no.. but the thing is we want to calculate number of days it takes to go from increased ratio 2(say) to MEAN ratio 1.5(say). regression model will only let us know value of airtel for given value of hcl or vice versa. but main question is about how many days it will take??

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Tirumala B <b.tirumala@...> wrote:
From: Tirumala B <b.tirumala@...>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_group] problem
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 10:18 AM


hai neha, you can use regression models. 
 
in regression if hieght increses weight also increases, if hieght decreases weight decreses
 
so, it is Y on X......u can use this model....i think......bye

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [Statisticians_ group] problem
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 4:35 AM

hi all,
i am new member of this community. i have a problem and want its solution as soon as possible. we have two companies share closing prices of each day. like for airtel and hcl. so when airtel shares increase hcl increase and vice versa. let sometimes airtel:hcl ratio is 1.5 and sometimes its 2 or somewhat. so i want to know how many days it will take to go from 1.5 to 2??? kindly suggest me some papers or study material to go for solving it.


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#3015 From: Tirumala B <b.tirumala@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:48 am
Subject:: Re: problem
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hai neha, you can use regression models. 
 
in regression if hieght increses weight also increases, if hieght decreases weight decreses
 
so, it is Y on X......u can use this model....i think......bye

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...> wrote:
From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] problem
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 4:35 AM

hi all,
i am new member of this community. i have a problem and want its solution as soon as possible. we have two companies share closing prices of each day. like for airtel and hcl. so when airtel shares increase hcl increase and vice versa. let sometimes airtel:hcl ratio is 1.5 and sometimes its 2 or somewhat. so i want to know how many days it will take to go from 1.5 to 2??? kindly suggest me some papers or study material to go for solving it.


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#3014 From: Neha Mehra <nehamehra13@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:35 am
Subject:: problem
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hi all,
i am new member of this community. i have a problem and want its solution as soon as possible. we have two companies share closing prices of each day. like for airtel and hcl. so when airtel shares increase hcl increase and vice versa. let sometimes airtel:hcl ratio is 1.5 and sometimes its 2 or somewhat. so i want to know how many days it will take to go from 1.5 to 2??? kindly suggest me some papers or study material to go for solving it.


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#3013 From: wahyu yuda <wahjuda@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:21 am
Subject:: Re: this is not a joke
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i agree with the moderator please back to basic

wahjuda

--- Nishant Jain <nishantjain18@...> wrote:

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> code is a matter of
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>
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> **
> *Moderators - Please !
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>
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>
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > **
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> > * can't use/sell it either. *
> > **
>
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#3012 From: "Nishant Jain" <nishantjain18@...>
Date:: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:34 pm
Subject:: Re: this is not a joke
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Guys... Please get this information confirmed before you rely on them... coz i doubt a few points like :-
1) ATM PIN thing - I am not sure if this really works, coz i heard this before as well and tried to confirm with my bank, there was no positive response from them,
2) Stolen Phone - Firstly, erasing the mobile phone code is a matter of seconds. Secondly, only your operator will monitor it on their network (that too you cannot very be sure of). It can still be easily used on some other network.
 
Above all... I suppose this group is meant for a different purpose and I find such mails irrelevant on this group.
Probably you'll find some other groups on yahoo if you are seeking or trying to convey such messages.
 
Moderators - Please !

 
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:31 AM, santosh adivi <asnv_santosh@...> wrote:

Hi Mr. Gowri,
 
You have given a tremendous things. Especially the recharge of the mobile is very useful.
Thanks for your great idea's and Creating awareness of such things are appreciable.
 
Regards,
Santosh Adivi  

--- On Sun, 16/11/08, mahasampath gowri <gowri_3788@...> wrote:
From: mahasampath gowri <gowri_3788@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] this is not a joke
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Date: Sunday, 16 November, 2008, 7:49 AM

This Is Not A Joke! 

4 THINGS YOU PROBABLY NEVER KNEW
 YOUR MOBILE PHONE COULD DO
 
There are a few things that can be
 done in times of grave emergencies.
 
 Your mobile phone can actually be a
life saver or an emergency tool for survival.
 
 Check out the things that you can do with it:
 
FIRST
Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for  Mobile  is 112.
 
 If you find yourself out of the coverage area of
  your mobile; network and there is an emergency,
 dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing
 network to establish the emergency number for you,
 and interestingly this number 112 can be dialled
 even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
 
SECOND
 Have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry?
This may come in handy someday.
Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your
 keys in the car and the spare keys are at home,
 call someone at home on their mobile phone
 from your cell phone.
 
Hold your cell phone about a foot from
 your car door and have the person
 at your home press the unlock button,
 holding it near the mobile phone on their end.
 
 Your car will unlock.
 
Saves someone from having to
drive your keys to you.
 
 Distance is no object.
 You could be hundreds of miles away,
 and if you can reach someone who has
the other 'remote' for your car, you can
 unlock the doors (or the trunk).

Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and
it unlocked our car over a mobile phone!'
 
 
THIRD
Hidden  Battery  Power
Imagine your mobile battery is very low.
 To activate, press the keys *3370#
 Your mobile will restart with this reserve and the
 instrument will show a 50% increase in battery.
 
This reserve will get charged when 
 you charge your mobile next time.
 
FOURTH
How to disable a
STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number,
 key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 #
 
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen.
 
This number is unique to your handset.
 
 Write it down and keep it somewhere safe.
 
 When your phone get stolen, you can phone
your service provider and give them this code.
 
 They will then be able to block your handset
 so even if the thief changes the SIM card,
 your phone will be totally useless.
 
 You probably won't get your phone back,
 but at least you know that whoever stole it
 can't use/sell it either.
 
If everybody does this, there would be
no point in people stealing mobile phones.

ATM - PIN Number Reversal - Good to Know

If you should ever be forced by a robber to
withdraw money from an ATM machine, you can
 notify the police by entering your PIN # in reverse.
 
 For example, if your pin number is 1234,
then you would put in 4321.
 
The ATM system recognizes that your PIN number is
backwards from the ATM card you placed in the machine.
 
 The machine will still give you the money you requested,
 but unknown to the robber, the police will be
 immediately dispatched to the location.
 
This information was recently broadcast on CTV by Crime Stoppers
 however it is seldom used because people just don't know about it.
 Please pass this along to everyone.

This is the kind of information people don't mind
receiving, so pass it on to your family and friends





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#3011 From: santosh adivi <asnv_santosh@...>
Date:: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:01 am
Subject:: Re: this is not a joke
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Hi Mr. Gowri,
 
You have given a tremendous things. Especially the recharge of the mobile is very useful.
Thanks for your great idea's and Creating awareness of such things are appreciable.
 
Regards,
Santosh Adivi  

--- On Sun, 16/11/08, mahasampath gowri <gowri_3788@...> wrote:
From: mahasampath gowri <gowri_3788@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] this is not a joke
To: "alagiri samy" <samy_alagiri@...>, "aravind" <gsaravind@...>, "arun kodi" <kodiias@...>, "banu" <banu_yanika@...>, "barani daran" <bluebharun_777@...>, "bavya 16" <zri29@...>, "chandru sathya" <chandruvellore@...>, "chandru sekar" <chandruvellore@...>, "chennai kavitha" <kavijay_88@...>, "chennai hari" <bharish94@...>, "divya" <divya_visakam@...>, "divya microbiology" <divya_sastarn@...>, "divya microbiology" <divyapsgcas@...>, "esha raffie b" <esha_raffie@...>, "ezhil prabu" <ezhil_09@...>, "groups" <Statisticians_group@...>, "groups" <desi_pardesi@yahoogroups.com>, "grps" <BlueDanube@yahoogroups.com>, "Guru Aravind" <aurobind2k@...>, "ismail ismail" <ismail.iota@...>, "iswarya" <iswarya2110@...>, "jaya" <jai_jaya6@...>, "kamala veni" <kamalaveni.29@...>, "karthi karthi" <fskarthi@...>, "kirthi" <kirthi_psg@...>, "kiruthika sk" <kiruthika.sk@...>, "kousiy" <kousi217@...>, "lavanya" <vinithasai@...>, "lokanayaki" <logi116@...>, "mahesh kumar" <osm.warner@...>, "naga mani" <najas777@...>, "nagamani" <najas777@...>, "namkha wangmo" <namkhabell_88@...>, "ponneeswari" <ponneeswari@...>, "Prabhakaran Nagarathinam" <first_reminder@...>, "pradeep psgcas" <praderahuul1@...>, "radhika radhika" <annavarapuradhika2003@...>, "S.Raju Natesh" <raju_natesh@...>, "senior rajeshwari" <raji_ramya025@...>, "senior ramya" <statswathiramya@...>, "shobana 5bio" <shobana5bio@...>, "shobana" <shobana5bio@...>, "stat link" <statlink@...>, "suresh sattakkal" <suresh.sattakkal@...>, "Thanigaivel Thirumalai" <thanigai_02@...>, "vanitha" <vanithamanipm@...>
Date: Sunday, 16 November, 2008, 7:49 AM

This Is Not A Joke! 

4 THINGS YOU PROBABLY NEVER KNEW
 YOUR MOBILE PHONE COULD DO
 
There are a few things that can be
 done in times of grave emergencies.
 
 Your mobile phone can actually be a
life saver or an emergency tool for survival.
 
 Check out the things that you can do with it:
 
FIRST
Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for  Mobile  is 112.
 
 If you find yourself out of the coverage area of
  your mobile; network and there is an emergency,
 dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing
 network to establish the emergency number for you,
 and interestingly this number 112 can be dialled
 even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
 
SECOND
 Have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry?
This may come in handy someday.
Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your
 keys in the car and the spare keys are at home,
 call someone at home on their mobile phone
 from your cell phone.
 
Hold your cell phone about a foot from
 your car door and have the person
 at your home press the unlock button,
 holding it near the mobile phone on their end.
 
 Your car will unlock.
 
Saves someone from having to
drive your keys to you.
 
 Distance is no object.
 You could be hundreds of miles away,
 and if you can reach someone who has
the other 'remote' for your car, you can
 unlock the doors (or the trunk).

Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and
it unlocked our car over a mobile phone!'
 
 
THIRD
Hidden  Battery  Power
Imagine your mobile battery is very low.
 To activate, press the keys *3370#
 Your mobile will restart with this reserve and the
 instrument will show a 50% increase in battery.
 
This reserve will get charged when 
 you charge your mobile next time.
 
FOURTH
How to disable a
STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number,
 key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 #
 
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen.
 
This number is unique to your handset.
 
 Write it down and keep it somewhere safe.
 
 When your phone get stolen, you can phone
your service provider and give them this code.
 
 They will then be able to block your handset
 so even if the thief changes the SIM card,
 your phone will be totally useless.
 
 You probably won't get your phone back,
 but at least you know that whoever stole it
 can't use/sell it either.
 
If everybody does this, there would be
no point in people stealing mobile phones.

ATM - PIN Number Reversal - Good to Know

If you should ever be forced by a robber to
withdraw money from an ATM machine, you can
 notify the police by entering your PIN # in reverse.
 
 For example, if your pin number is 1234,
then you would put in 4321.
 
The ATM system recognizes that your PIN number is
backwards from the ATM card you placed in the machine.
 
 The machine will still give you the money you requested,
 but unknown to the robber, the police will be
 immediately dispatched to the location.
 
This information was recently broadcast on CTV by Crime Stoppers
 however it is seldom used because people just don't know about it.
 Please pass this along to everyone.

This is the kind of information people don't mind
receiving, so pass it on to your family and friends





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#3010 From: mahasampath gowri <gowri_3788@...>
Date:: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:19 am
Subject:: this is not a joke
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This Is Not A Joke! 

4 THINGS YOU PROBABLY NEVER KNEW
 YOUR MOBILE PHONE COULD DO
 
There are a few things that can be
 done in times of grave emergencies.
 
 Your mobile phone can actually be a
life saver or an emergency tool for survival.
 
 Check out the things that you can do with it:
 
FIRST
Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for  Mobile  is 112.
 
 If you find yourself out of the coverage area of
  your mobile; network and there is an emergency,
 dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing
 network to establish the emergency number for you,
 and interestingly this number 112 can be dialled
 even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.
 
SECOND
 Have you locked your keys in the car?
Does your car have remote keyless entry?
This may come in handy someday.
Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your
 keys in the car and the spare keys are at home,
 call someone at home on their mobile phone
 from your cell phone.
 
Hold your cell phone about a foot from
 your car door and have the person
 at your home press the unlock button,
 holding it near the mobile phone on their end.
 
 Your car will unlock.
 
Saves someone from having to
drive your keys to you.
 
 Distance is no object.
 You could be hundreds of miles away,
 and if you can reach someone who has
the other 'remote' for your car, you can
 unlock the doors (or the trunk).

Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and
it unlocked our car over a mobile phone!'
 
 
THIRD
Hidden  Battery  Power
Imagine your mobile battery is very low.
 To activate, press the keys *3370#
 Your mobile will restart with this reserve and the
 instrument will show a 50% increase in battery.
 
This reserve will get charged when 
 you charge your mobile next time.
 
FOURTH
How to disable a
STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number,
 key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 #
 
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen.
 
This number is unique to your handset.
 
 Write it down and keep it somewhere safe.
 
 When your phone get stolen, you can phone
your service provider and give them this code.
 
 They will then be able to block your handset
 so even if the thief changes the SIM card,
 your phone will be totally useless.
 
 You probably won't get your phone back,
 but at least you know that whoever stole it
 can't use/sell it either.
 
If everybody does this, there would be
no point in people stealing mobile phones.

ATM - PIN Number Reversal - Good to Know

If you should ever be forced by a robber to
withdraw money from an ATM machine, you can
 notify the police by entering your PIN # in reverse.
 
 For example, if your pin number is 1234,
then you would put in 4321.
 
The ATM system recognizes that your PIN number is
backwards from the ATM card you placed in the machine.
 
 The machine will still give you the money you requested,
 but unknown to the robber, the police will be
 immediately dispatched to the location.
 
This information was recently broadcast on CTV by Crime Stoppers
 however it is seldom used because people just don't know about it.
 Please pass this along to everyone.

This is the kind of information people don't mind
receiving, so pass it on to your family and friends





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#3009 From: "getlearn_bma" <education_us@...>
Date:: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:42 pm
Subject:: Online Learning
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Online Learning
Online education has been majorly adopted by the students of the distant countries with the help of the internet technology.
PhD Degree
Online MBA Program
Online IT Degree
USMLE
University Of Maryland
Online Accounting Degree


#3007 From: shubhadeep ghosh <shubhadeep.stat@...>
Date:: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:56 am
Subject:: Re: Job Openings in SAS
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Hi,
    Me Shubhadeep Ghosh,working as a"Senior Research Fellow" in Central Inland Fisheries Research Institute, Barrackpore(West Bengal), India.I am attaching my cv and hope to get necessary steps.

Regards
Shubhadeep Ghosh

--- On Sun, 9/11/08, subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@...> wrote:
From: subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@...>
Subject: Re: [Statisticians_group] Job Openings in SAS
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 6:48 PM

Here I am attaching my updated CV.
Currently I am working in AC Nielsen, a leading Market Research Company.
 
Prior to this I was in ISI,kolkata as a project assistant.
I have total of 14 months of experiance.

Thanks & Regards,
Subho.
 
Subhabrata Bhattacharya
Contact : +91 9725946977
             bhuttasubha@ gmail.com
 


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From: diksha_67 <diksha@mancerconsul ting.com>
Subject: [Statisticians_ group] Job Openings in SAS
To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 21 October, 2008, 2:44 PM

Hi All!!

We have some very exciting job openings as SAS analyst and Modelling.
People with atleast 1 Yr of experince can be considered.

Interested candidated can mail me their Updated Resume at
diksha@mancerconsul ting.com OR can contact me at 91-9718635331.



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#3006 From: subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@...>
Date:: Sun Nov 9, 2008 1:18 pm
Subject:: Re: Job Openings in SAS
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Here I am attaching my updated CV.
Currently I am working in AC Nielsen, a leading Market Research Company.
 
Prior to this I was in ISI,kolkata as a project assistant.
I have total of 14 months of experiance.

Thanks & Regards,
Subho.
 
Subhabrata Bhattacharya
Contact : +91 9725946977
             bhuttasubha@...
 


--- On Tue, 21/10/08, diksha_67 <diksha@...> wrote:
From: diksha_67 <diksha@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] Job Openings in SAS
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Tuesday, 21 October, 2008, 2:44 PM

Hi All!!

We have some very exciting job openings as SAS analyst and Modelling.
People with atleast 1 Yr of experince can be considered.

Interested candidated can mail me their Updated Resume at
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#3005 From: subhabrata bhattacharya <bhutta_subha@...>
Date:: Sun Nov 9, 2008 1:06 pm
Subject:: Re: Job Openings Asst Manager Analytics
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Here I am attaching my updated CV.
Please go through it to recomend to any of your clients.
 
Currently I am working in a leading Market Research Company, AC Nielsen.

Thanks & Regards,
Subho.
 
Subhabrata Bhattacharya
Contact : +91 9725946977
             bhuttasubha@...
 


--- On Wed, 5/11/08, diksha_67 <diksha@...> wrote:
From: diksha_67 <diksha@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] Job Openings Asst Manager Analytics
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 7:10 PM

Hi All..

We have very exciting Job Openings as Asst Manager Analytics with our
client in Mumbai and NCR.

Qualification:

Post Graduate in Quantitative subjects(Eco, OR, Maths, Stats)
Hands on experience on SAS(MUST).

Experience Required:

Minimum of 2 Yrs.

Interested Candidates please mail your Resume at
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#3003 From: mahasampath gowri <gowri_3788@...>
Date:: Sun Nov 9, 2008 3:25 am
Subject:: Re: Can someone help me with these questions?
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1. Are perfectly associated
3. –1 … +1
4. All of the above
5. Gamma
hi these answers are somewat correct.  if anything wrong pls send me the correct answer with reasons



--- On Sat, 8/11/08, stephen_playford <gozonuts@...> wrote:
From: stephen_playford <gozonuts@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] Can someone help me with these questions?
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 10:02 PM

Review questions that I wasn't able to get answers to. I would like
to know if I did them correctly or not, please help.

1) If a distribution of the scores of one variable changes
across the categories of another variable, the variables

1. Are associated to some extent
2. Are indicators of the same concept
3. Have a cause and effect relationship
4. Are perfectly associated

2) Conventionally, each column of a bivariate table represents:

1. The highest scores of each variable
2. A category of the independent variable (X)
3. A category of the dependent variable (Y)
4. The lowest scores on each variable

3) For variables measured at the nominal level, measures of
association will have a lower limit of ________ and an upper limit
of ________

1. 0 … 100
2. –1 … +1
3. 0 … 1
4. 1 … 0

4) Cramer's V is

1. Used for tables that are larger than 2x2
2. Based on chi square
3. Easy to calculate
4. All of the above

5) For a 3x3 table, the appropriate chi square measure of
association would be

1. Cramer's V
2. Phi
3. Lambda
4. Gamma



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#3001 From: "mohammad_d_amar" <mohammad_d_amar@...>
Date:: Sat Nov 8, 2008 6:57 am
Subject:: hello
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hi
i am msc in biostatistics
if this is posible i need some technical and director information for
reach to success in this course
please guid me
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#3000 From: Jay Warner at AT_T <jay.warner3@...>
Date:: Fri Nov 7, 2008 4:58 pm
Subject:: Re: Re: standard deviation
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[Side note:

Whitehead declension:

_My_ study has a large dataset, and so reaches strong conclusions.
_Your_ study has a moderate dataset, with questions on the conclusions.
_His (or her)_ study uses a small dataset, and so reaches unsupported conclusions.

If 'large' is your only criterion for validity, you haven't paid enough attention to the logic of the analysis.

Now back to work.]

Cheers,
Jay
On Nov 7, 2008, at 2:02:17 AM, KAUSHIK BHATTACHARJEE wrote:

It really does not matter if N is large.... (However large is a vauge word...changes  from one study to another ....)

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#2999 From: "Nishant Jain" <nishantjain18@...>
Date:: Fri Nov 7, 2008 2:45 pm
Subject:: Re: Customer Satisfaction Survey Analysis
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Yes Ravi, SEM is a very good option. I would suggest to use AMOS for SEM, it is very user friendly and provides good model building tools.
 
Of course you can repeat the process on monthly basis. For that may I suggest you to determine some kind of overall satisfaction score on the basis of all the respondents' data. Then you can see whether that score is going up or down. Also, for finding out the critical variables (or process areas), you can track down the changes in score for each process and prioritize them as you want.
 
Nishant

 
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, vishwesh haldavanekar <vishwesh_s_h@...> wrote:

Hi Ravi,
 
there are several other analysis which you can do on this data such as SEM.
 
Thank you,
 
Vishwesh


Ravi Shankar <ravi.analytics@...> wrote:
Hello all,

I have some customer satisfaction survey data wherein customers have rated metrics such as on-time delivery,product quality, price paid etc on a scale of 1-7 (1 being least satisfied,7 being very satisfied). Based on these independent variables they have also rated their likelihood of repurchase, likelihood of referring stores to a friend,overall satisfaction on the same scale.

I have conducted Ordered logistic regression and came up with most significant variables and also the odds ratios. I repeated this to measure 3 dependent variables as 3 separate regression analysis.

I would like to know if I could go deeper and further analyze this data(given the fact that all the information is ordinal). Can any of you think of any other analysis that could be insightful?

 Also, can I repeat this process on a monthly basis to measure customer satisfaction? (with new survey responses and say that so and so variables have been crucial for this month etc?)

Please let me know.

Thanks
Ravi

 


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#2998 From: KAUSHIK BHATTACHARJEE <kabonline07@...>
Date:: Fri Nov 7, 2008 8:02 am
Subject:: Re: Re: standard deviation
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Assuming N is the sample size, N-1 is only to ensure unbiasedness property of the statistic 'sample variance' for the corresponding parameter"population variance'--that  is what I recall....
It really does not matter if N is large.... (However large is a vauge word...changes  from one study to another ....)

Kaushik Bhattacharjee
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ICFAI Business School,Hyderabad
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Contact No.9396677684

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@...> wrote:
From: moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] Re: standard deviation
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 7:30 PM

Scott,

Someone reminded me of the max likelihood estimation.. .its N-1 to
make the equation unbiased so as to avoid underestimating the std. I
understood that...The rational that its there to compensate for
sample size is news to me. The equation works for large samples as
well. Not sure if I follow your logic aside from the fact that
mathematically agree with you....a smaller N will give you a bigger
fraction.... but I do not believe that is enough of an explanation. If
that were the case why chose 'N-1' . But thank you for taking the
time to respond.-Amy

--- In Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in, Scott <bigmagumba@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Amy,
>  
> It's in the equation to help compensate for sample sizes.
>  
> For example, if your sample size is huge, subtracting 1 from N
won't cause the standard deviation to be much different than simply N.
>  
> However, if your sample size is small, subtracting 1 from N will
cause your standard deviation to be larger.  And the smaller the
sample size, the larger it will be.
>  
> Make sense?
>  
> Regards!
>  
> Scott
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@ ...>
> Subject: [Statisticians_ group] standard deviation
> To: Statisticians_ group@yahoogroup s.co.in
> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:11 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey people,
>
> I have a question does anyone remember the logic behind the
denominator
> (N-1) for standard deviation? I need a simpliest terms explanation.
> Thanks.
>
> -Amy
>



#2997 From: vishwesh haldavanekar <vishwesh_s_h@...>
Date:: Fri Nov 7, 2008 5:31 am
Subject:: Re: Customer Satisfaction Survey Analysis
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Hi Ravi,
 
there are several other analysis which you can do on this data such as SEM.
 
Thank you,
 
Vishwesh

Ravi Shankar <ravi.analytics@...> wrote:
Hello all,

I have some customer satisfaction survey data wherein customers have rated metrics such as on-time delivery,product quality, price paid etc on a scale of 1-7 (1 being least satisfied,7 being very satisfied). Based on these independent variables they have also rated their likelihood of repurchase, likelihood of referring stores to a friend,overall satisfaction on the same scale.

I have conducted Ordered logistic regression and came up with most significant variables and also the odds ratios. I repeated this to measure 3 dependent variables as 3 separate regression analysis.

I would like to know if I could go deeper and further analyze this data(given the fact that all the information is ordinal). Can any of you think of any other analysis that could be insightful?

 Also, can I repeat this process on a monthly basis to measure customer satisfaction? (with new survey responses and say that so and so variables have been crucial for this month etc?)

Please let me know.

Thanks
Ravi

 


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#2996 From: "Ravi Shankar" <ravi.analytics@...>
Date:: Fri Nov 7, 2008 5:19 am
Subject:: Customer Satisfaction Survey Analysis
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Hello all,

I have some customer satisfaction survey data wherein customers have rated metrics such as on-time delivery,product quality, price paid etc on a scale of 1-7 (1 being least satisfied,7 being very satisfied). Based on these independent variables they have also rated their likelihood of repurchase, likelihood of referring stores to a friend,overall satisfaction on the same scale.

I have conducted Ordered logistic regression and came up with most significant variables and also the odds ratios. I repeated this to measure 3 dependent variables as 3 separate regression analysis.

I would like to know if I could go deeper and further analyze this data(given the fact that all the information is ordinal). Can any of you think of any other analysis that could be insightful?

 Also, can I repeat this process on a monthly basis to measure customer satisfaction? (with new survey responses and say that so and so variables have been crucial for this month etc?)

Please let me know.

Thanks
Ravi

 

#2995 From: "moccalatte2003" <amymoore20@...>
Date:: Fri Nov 7, 2008 3:30 am
Subject:: Re: standard deviation
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Scott,

Someone reminded me of the max likelihood estimation...its N-1 to
make the equation unbiased so as to avoid underestimating the std. I
understood that...The rational that its there to compensate for
sample size is news to me. The equation works for large samples as
well. Not sure if I follow your logic aside from the fact that
mathematically agree with you....a smaller N will give you a bigger
fraction....but I do not believe that is enough of an explanation. If
that were the case why chose 'N-1' . But thank you for taking the
time to respond.-Amy


--- In Statisticians_group@..., Scott <bigmagumba@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Amy,
>  
> It's in the equation to help compensate for sample sizes.
>  
> For example, if your sample size is huge, subtracting 1 from N
won't cause the standard deviation to be much different than simply N.
>  
> However, if your sample size is small, subtracting 1 from N will
cause your standard deviation to be larger.  And the smaller the
sample size, the larger it will be.
>  
> Make sense?
>  
> Regards!
>  
> Scott
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@...> wrote:
>
> From: moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@...>
> Subject: [Statisticians_group] standard deviation
> To: Statisticians_group@...
> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:11 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey people,
>
> I have a question does anyone remember the logic behind the
denominator
> (N-1) for standard deviation? I need a simpliest terms explanation.
> Thanks.
>
> -Amy
>

#2994 From: Scott <bigmagumba@...>
Date:: Fri Nov 7, 2008 2:45 am
Subject:: Re: standard deviation
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Hi Amy,
 
It's in the equation to help compensate for sample sizes.
 
For example, if your sample size is huge, subtracting 1 from N won't cause the standard deviation to be much different than simply N.
 
However, if your sample size is small, subtracting 1 from N will cause your standard deviation to be larger.  And the smaller the sample size, the larger it will be.
 
Make sense?
 
Regards!
 
Scott


--- On Thu, 11/6/08, moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@...> wrote:
From: moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@...>
Subject: [Statisticians_group] standard deviation
To: Statisticians_group@...
Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:11 AM

Hey people,

I have a question does anyone remember the logic behind the denominator
(N-1) for standard deviation? I need a simpliest terms explanation.
Thanks.

-Amy



#2993 From: "moccalatte2003" <amymoore20@...>
Date:: Thu Nov 6, 2008 6:03 pm
Subject:: standard deviation
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Thank you for all the explanantions it is clear to me now! I am
brushing up on my statistics and came across that equation. I couldn't
explain the denominator. Its amazing how you forget vital details!
Thank you. I liked the analogy wiith the pen. that was cool.

-Amy

#2992 From: "moccalatte2003" <amymoore20@...>
Date:: Thu Nov 6, 2008 6:03 pm
Subject:: standard deviation
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Thank you for all the explanantions it is clear to me now! I am
brushing up on my statistics and came across that equation. I couldn't
explain the denominator. Its amazing how you forget vital details!
Thank you. I liked the analogy wiith the pen. that was cool.

-Amy

#2991 From: Jay Warner at AT_T <jay.warner3@...>
Date:: Thu Nov 6, 2008 5:33 pm
Subject:: Re: Res: standard deviation
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The wikipedia article is certainly thorough (and yes, valid:), but I'm not sure it satisfies the request for "simplest terms" explanation.  As an introduction to this micro-subject, I offer the piece(s) below:

A) Short:

The estimated variance, s^2 (s squared), is based on a concrete, finite sample; it _estimates_ the variance of the related population, sigma^2.  [Note: s^2 is NOT the same thing as sigma^2.]

Calculating s^2 using a divisor of n (the sample size) gives a biased estimate of sigma^2.  It tends to estimate on the low side.  A divisor of (n-1) gives an unbiased estimate -- a lot of estimates together (multiple samples of n each) will approach sigma^2 from both sides, and come closer to the "true" sigma^2 than will the divisor of n.

Side note: yes, the difference between n and n-1 is small when n is greater than 30 or 100.  We have enough problems with variation and measurement error now; why add even a small bias, when we have machines to do the calculations?

B) Not so short, but physical.

1) Find a pen with a clip on it.  Toss the pen into the air.  It can spin along its length, around the center through the clip, and around the center at right angles to the clip.  It can rise above your head, it can move left or right, and toward or away from you.  A total of 6 different directions of motion.  Mechanical engineers call this 6 degrees of freedom.  Written df.

2) If I hide four numbers on four slips of paper in a bowl, you would have no idea what those numbers might be.  They could be anything (since you don't know how big the paper slips are :)  They are "loose." Those numbers have four degrees of freedom.  Now I tell you that three of those numbers are 10, 24, and 9.  I tell you that the _average_ of the four numbers is 11.75.  From this information you can _calculate_ the fourth number.  Once you know the average, the fourth number is not "loose."  When you calculate the average you 'give up' one degree of freedom from your sample.  

If you stand next to a wall and toss the pen in the air so that it is next to the wall, it has lost one degree of freedom - it can't go into the wall.  Same as the average - the range of potential values of your numbers has been reduced.

The divisor in the variance estimate, s squared (s^2), _is_ the degrees of freedom.  Degrees of freedom of a sample equals sample size - n.  To calculate s^2, we need to use the average.  Hence, one less degree of freedom, and n-1.

In Addition:  In calculating the residual error for a linear regression analysis (functionally equivalent to the standard deviation of a sample), we find that the divisor is (n-2) because we computed the slope and the intercept from the sample.  We lost two degrees of freedom in this calculation.

Does this help at all?
Jay
On Nov 6, 2008, at 8:31:04 AM, walmes zeviani wrote:

Hello moccalatte2003,

You can see the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance#Population_variance_and_sample_variance

Have a good weekend.

Walmes,
Statistic and Design of Experimets - UFLA
Lavras, Minas Gerais, Brazil


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Hey people,

I have a question does anyone remember the logic behind the denominator
(N-1) for standard deviation? I need a simpliest terms explanation.
Thanks.

-Amy



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#2990 From: walmes zeviani <walmeszeviani@...>
Date:: Thu Nov 6, 2008 2:31 pm
Subject:: Res: standard deviation
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Hello moccalatte2003,

You can see the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance#Population_variance_and_sample_variance

Have a good weekend.

Walmes,
Statistic and Design of Experimets - UFLA
Lavras, Minas Gerais, Brazil


De: moccalatte2003 <amymoore20@...>
Para: Statisticians_group@...
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2008 11:11:07
Assunto: [Statisticians_group] standard deviation

Hey people,

I have a question does anyone remember the logic behind the denominator
(N-1) for standard deviation? I need a simpliest terms explanation.
Thanks.

-Amy



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#2989 From: "moccalatte2003" <amymoore20@...>
Date:: Thu Nov 6, 2008 1:11 pm
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Hey people,

I have a question does anyone remember the logic behind the denominator
(N-1) for standard deviation? I need a simpliest terms explanation.
Thanks.

-Amy

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