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Recently I found SSH/telnet behave strangely. After accepting passwd,
I could not get prompt. On little investigation, I found that when I
hangs, "ps -A" shows me:

<ps -A>
   PID TTY          TIME CMD
   <snip>
   11159 ?        00:00:00 sshd
   11161 ?        00:00:00 sshd
   11162 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
   11171 pts/0    00:00:00 hostname
   11172 pts/0    00:00:00 hostname <defunct>
   </ps>

On issuing "kill -9 11171", I get prompt. That mean "hostname"
command make SSH to hang. Server is having RH9. What could be the
reason, and what can be done to solve this issue?

Can it be related to firewall settings like in IPtables?

Thanks in advance.

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CDs and comics offer digital aid
By Jo Twist
BBC News technology reporter in Tunis

Girl looking at comic

A gang of characters explain technology and what it can be used
Jostling on the sidelines of this week's UN net summit in Tunis were
dozens of projects that provide people in developing countries with
much-needed hardware to get digital.

After a while in the haze and crowded floor of the summit's ICT4All expo
space, they start to blur into a colourful mass of e-learning,
e-government and e-others.

Most of the grassroots projects rely on open-source software as a cheap,
if not free, and adaptable resource.

Open software is seen as a crucial building block in the creation of a
digital society in which everyone, anywhere, can share the knowledge,
tools and opportunities that technologies can offer.

Knowledge is seen as the font of power and ultimately prosperity in its
wider sense.

Two very simple and relatively low-tech projects, which focus on the
distribution and use of open-source stood out at the World Summit on the
Information Society (WSIS).

Comic turn

One was SchoolNet Namibia, a non-profit group which provides net
services, computers, and training to schools in Namibia. It has had
great success in supplying and training people on open-source software.

But they found was that after the trainer they provided for two months
left the schools, the computers in the labs remained largely untouched,
especially by the teachers themselves.

"It is no use giving computers away to schools if no one is going to
use them," Ebben Haotuikulipi from SchoolNet Namibia explained to the
BBC News website.

So in April, they came up with the paper-based HaiTI comic, which means
Listen Up in the local language, Oshaiwambo.

"It is printed every Tuesday in the local youth newspaper, so it goes
across the country. What is in the comic is also all online," said Ms
Haotuikulipi.

The colourful gang of characters explain technology and what it can be
used for through stories, just like a conventional comic adventure.

When they talk about e-mail or downloading, for example, information
panels near the speech bubbles offer an explanation and web addresses
for readers to follow.

The characters are based on actual SchoolNet staff members and the comic
has been such a hit that they are becoming minor celebrities. And word
is spreading.

"We've started receiving calls from parents now asking questions about
where to save documents they get from the net and so on, so the
questions coming into our helpline are now about how to use the
computers," said Ms Haotuikulipi, which is a sign of real success as far
as SchoolNet is concerned.

They have also started to receive a lot more e-mails from all over the
country since its launch.

The group has also noticed that the teachers, 75% of whom are women,
have been inspired too with a large proportion of helpline calls and
e-mails coming from them.

"Women and technology have never really got on. So we did want to get
more women into technology too," said Ms Haotuikulipi. "The response has
been really good."

Even though it is a young project, it has been recognised by the World
Summit Youth Award for bringing technologies closer to people.

Toast and source

A second eye-catching project is equally simple and is proving to be a
big hit, this time in South Africa.

Freedom toaster

The Freedom Toaster has a touch screen interface

The large bright orange vending machine-shaped object looks rather like
an internet access kiosk. Then it spits out a CD from one of its four
trays.

In fact, it is not linked to the internet at all, and it does not offer
you a drink either.

The Freedom Toaster, a project run by the Shuttleworth Foundation, is a
"bandwidth substitute". It requires no infrastructure, just an
electricity supply.

It borrows its name from the open-source community's word for creating
or burning a CD, known as "toasting".

Through a simple touch screen interface, it gives the digitally
dispossessed in South Africa access to open-source software with free
licences for those who might have a computer but no net access.

"Users come with their own CD, and it will tell you all the information
you need about the different software, and asks users what version of
software they want and how many CDs they want," explained Jason Hudson
from the Shuttleworth Foundation.

There are now 30 machines installed in schools, libraries, science
centres and retail outlets, and the response has been huge in the year
it has been in action.

"It's been amazing," says Mr Hudson. "It has taken us by surprise. It
started off as an interactive desktop display, but then it just took
off."

All the programs available are stored on its hard drive and eventually
the hope is it would be connected to the net, but that is just not
possible yet.

Tonnes of information

The entire unit costs about 17,000 Rand (£1,500), the bulk of which is
taken up by the cost of the cabinet itself. Inside, it is basically a
computer.

The Foundation admits that although the Toaster does not address the
issue of getting computers into impoverished areas, it does provide a
way of plugging into the wealth of information the net offers.

In true open-source spirit, the blueprints of how to build a Freedom
Toaster are being made available in Freedom Toaster CookBook, which will
be available from March 2006.

Jimmy Wales, founder of the collaborative, open, online Wikipedia
encyclopaedia, said the Toaster is exactly the kind of distribution
channel that a resource such as Wikipedia could use.

"The ability to go and download a CD and have tonnes of information on
it is really important," he told the BBC News website.

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From: M S <mseibel@...>
Subject: Re: ArcView vs GRASS

INTRO:
oh I could have a field day with this thread, and I think i will. I just
cant pass on this opportunity. I didnt want to start a thread like this, but
Its rather lengthy, so grab a comfortable seat, a cup of joe, and be glad
you use GRASS. Since there was some digression from the ArcView vs GRASS
topic, i too shall digress. If you are a blind fan of ESRI, dont read this,
you will just make silly responses. These are not petty issues. My criticism
is harsh at times, but please read through this to see where i am coming
from and why i have the opinions that i do. These are enormous amounts of
money being paid for a now poor product. Dont perceive this as "bashing" of
ESRI, but rather just a taste of the sincere and genuine experiences I have
personally experienced with ArcMap/ESRI in a professional, deadline driven
environment. This is why I was driven to find alternatives such as GRASS.
And I am so thankful that I did.

There is one word that describes ESRI, and that word is GREED. There are
many words that describe GRASS: excellence, refined code, dedication to
producing a quality product, pride in the product, multi-platform
compatibility, quick bug fixes, stability, innovation, free, intrigue to new
users, relief for users of ESRI, and best of all: an embracing and
supportive community and author(s). (I salute you Markus)

HISTORY:
ESRI had a good thing with workstation arc/info and the extra modules. the
command line was king. i learned GIS on A/I workstation on UNIX. THose were
the days when, if there was an erroneous result in the analysis or data
creation, it was the user/operator's fault. On the ArcMap platform, if the
result is erroneous, its advised to first check that the software algorithm
isnt bugged, because I have too often found this to be the case. (I could
cite dozens of examples, a recent one i will say is the bugged HPGN/HARN
projection in ArcMap's on the fly projection, and physical projection of
data in ArcCatalog)

Around the turn of the millennium, with the advent of ArcMap, ESRI
completely fell to pieces in the quality of their product and the quality
and availability of their tech support. They sold out to windows, they
turned their back on the very operating system that helped their software be
stable and crunch on analytical data for hours on end without bombing out.
They ticked off a large portion of their existing GIS user base when doing
this. They price gouged the community. They wove their software in to
government agencies, large corporations, and the trickle down effect was
felt as many other businesses had to now cater to the proprietary "datamodel
specific" ESRI way of things. Now even if other companies and people want to
use, better, open source, alternative software, they cant without major
hassle, because final products are being asked to be delivered in a
"geodatabase" fomat which as far as i know, only ESRI software can write. I
beg of ANYONE in the open source community to create a program that can
read/write to geodatabases (microsoft access databases with spatial
component).

BROKEN COVERAGE DATA MODEL ON WINDOWS NETWORKS:
How in the world do they justify the SAME cost of their software that ran on
UNIX on Windows? in the UNIX days, everything was expensive, the UNIX OS,
the UNIX Hardware, the UNIX Administrators... a $9,000 Arc/Info fell right
into the price scheme... and it WORKED. I personally experienced tons and
tons of software bombouts/errors when building or doing overlays across the
network. When they ported arc/info workstation to Windows with WINNT around
1996, it was BROKEN right off the bat, yet the prices were the same. A
technician later told me, "You cant build, overlay or do anything that
rebuilds topology across a pure windows network... because a windows server
does not return the data specifically like a UNIX server does. it messes up
workstation, and causes it to bomb out. our solution: COPY THE DATA
LOCALLY." i said this is unacceptable. networks have advantages. especially
centralization and backing up. in a department of many, local copying of
data is a night mare. this was hardly a "solution", this was BROKEN. I said
"well how can this be? how can this product be sold as it is, if the windows
networks dont work with the coverage data model???" the response, "It never
worked. We never tested it in a pure windows networked environment. this
came to light after it was in production by other companies". I was
astonished and disappointed. this was the beginning of the end. due to this
and the open nature of reading/writing shapefiles, ESRI needed a new,
proprietary data model that only THEY could write/read. Enter the
Geodatabase.

LICENSE CONFUSION, BAIT AND SWITCH:
Here's just one example of the mess they created. Now the young GIS useres
will not appreciate this if they have joined GIS post year 2000. In the
"good old days", a common software combination was workstation arc/info and
arcview. workstation for data creation and analysis, and arcview for
cartography. some people were paying maintenance on workstation and arcview.
if i recall right, thats 3000$ & 500$ respectively PER YEAR. When ESRI came
out with ARCmap, arcview was now just a subset of arcmap arc/info. there was
no need to maintain two separate licenses for the sofwares because one was
just a subset of another. Their licensing got majorly screwed up, so much to
the point that when you asked a sales representative to explain it, the
response was "we are confused about it too". what kind of a response if that
from sales reps who you are paying MASSIVE amounts of money EVERY single
year??? Anyhow, there was no longer a need for arcview if you owned arcmap
arc/info. would they credit you? would they allow the maintenance to be
applied elsewhere? no, I personally was laughed at for even ASKING such a
question by them, even though after the bait and switch a credit is the
least they could have done. but no, they wanted more money. I had such a
horrible experience at a local level with them that i took my issues to the
east-coast sales manager. we hashed things out, i expressed sincere and
genuine dissatisfaction with ArcMap, and all the bugs and plotting problems
and production inhibiting issues in arcmap. His big solution: "WAIT till the
next release(s) to fix the problems". i wondered "well why have i been
paying for this software for 4 years???" its really beta software, where the
users have to find the bugs and report them to ESRI. Not to mention that
with the immense complexity of ArcMap (i mean the context "menu" for the
main "menu" is so big, it scrolls off a 21" monitor!), the tech support
quality and availability diminished to the point where I would not get calls
back for DAYS. by then, my deadline was missed. i would have to find work
arounds. a VERY common statement from ESRI was, "well ask the community if
we cant get to you fast enough, and post to our forums". I"m thinking our
organization is not paying $10,000 PER YEAR to go seek out the answer on
line. we are paying this money to talk to techs who are knowledgeable and
can solve the problems quickly. thats how it was prior to arcmap. immediate
responses and problems solved for the user.

EMBEDDING ESRI INTO AGENCIES AND BIG BUSINESS:
there is no excuse for the complete garbage software that ESRI has out now
nearly 6 years into this software's life, and over a half dozen release of
software versions. The users are the beta testers, the users are the
de-buggers, the users are the victims. ESRI sits back collecting millions if
not billions in yearly maintenance, working on their own schedule, and fixes
stuff as they see fit. Try a lenghty editing session in ArcMap, and try to
keep the software from crashing. Good luck. The personal touch and care for
customers is gone. Unless you are a government agency, then I heard that
they get taken out to lunches frequently by ESRI reps and treated great.
THis makes sense because if they can weave their software in to government
agencies, then other companies working for them/with them have to be ESRI
compatible. not "open GIS" data exchange formats, but rather the proprietary
Geodatabase. An example is agencies asking for data in Geodatabase format
and maps in MXD format. this is unacceptable!

SYNONYMS:
Sadly, much like PC's are synonymous with MicroSoft, GIS is synonymous to
ESRI. THis is truly a shame. Monopolies are bad for the consumer. Monopolies
are bad for GIS. ESRI is bad for GIS.

ADMISSION OF MESS:
As of this year ESRI redid their license scheme (and as i read in this
thread, no you dont have to buy a dongle every year, you have to buy the
"maintenance package" every year). ESRI must realize that the liensing is
out of control. they simplified it by putting modules we used to pay for
into the main license just this year, 5 years later after the software
re-write and re-licensing. they made it sound like this stuff was free now.
however our maintenance every year is still the same price as they jacked up
the price on the main items.

BIND ESRI SUPPORTERS:
When this type of frustration is vented in ESRI forums the response is "stop
whining". There is plenty of justification for this disgruntled-ness. ESRI
pulled the "bait and switch" maneuver. They had a solid product for 30
years, then FORCED the community to move to ArcMap, dumped UNIX OS's, and
sold out to windows. This is my career they are messing with, this is my
livelyhood, this is my future. New users do not understand. They just live
with the horrible bugs, and keep on clicking their way through GIS without a
solid understanding of the data and analysis. They dont realize the enormous
price that one pays for the software initially AND every subsequent year
there after. They dont realize what quality GIS was. When deadlines and be
met, and bugs are the reason why, thre is plenty of justification to vent
this frustration. I have to use this cruddy software, or find a new job or
even career. As consultants, we have to be compatable with our clients.

RESPONSE TO PREVIOUS THREADS:
ArcView doesnt just "run better under windows"... it ONLY runs on windows,
provided we are talking about ArcMap ArcView. ArcView 3.X used to run on
UNIX and was so solid. People who can really speak to this issue are the
ones who were working with GIS prior to ArcMap's existance. The fact it runs
on windows is not a plus. This is the reason arcmap can not plot large
images because of the file capture function is relied upon by windows. where
the old arcview (3.X) used an ESRI file capture format and was nearly
flawless. You have to put your map plot quality to poor if you are working
with large images you want to plot on paper or the data gets dropped off the
map. As per ESRI, they now rely on the windows subsystem to handle the file
capture and print. Which is one reason why now they include their "arcpress"
module, so that the maps can be rasterized for plotting capabilities. before
this, their business partner would scour the forums looking for people with
plotting problems and solicit them for their $3000 plotting "solution". ESRI
probably owns the "business partner" as well. this is unacceptable. plotting
maps and large images should be an "out of the box" function for $9,000
software.

Dylan and Rich have extremely valid points in my. they capture the essence
of this whole issue. Very well stated by the both of you.

Rich captures the essence with this, " I found too many people who "knew"
GIS because they knew how to
operate the program controls. My response was that teaching someone how to
use a word processor did not make her a writer; teaching someone how to use
a
graphics program does not make him an artist. There's a huge difference
between knowing how to do things with a computer application and knowing
what
to do to get the proper results."

Dylan is right on as well... I couldnt agree more with what he wrote. The
dangers of point and clicking your way through a map or analysis, without
understanding what is really going on can be disastrous.

An example is someone i encountered who said their experience with GIS was
"spatial analyst". This was peculiar to me, because they were asking about
BASIC data creation procedures. This indicates that they can click their way
through the "analysis", but dont understand how the data was created or how
it works. You can run the "analysis" but have absolutley NO CLUE about the
data itself, or how to create it??? Eventually even a monkey couldl press
all the right buttons to get the analysis to work.

GRASS ROCKS!:
GRASS is awesome. Its capabilities amaze me and intrigue me to keep learning
about it. Quantum GIS is awesome. Mapserver is awesome. these three
softwares on a Linux platform, have the ability to replace Arc/Info, ArcView
and ArcIMS respectively. And its already happening. I saw an ArcView
3.Xscript that writes out a Mapserver File. people are catching on.
the
community is becoming aware.

I should write a book or large composition. I have had so much interaction
with ESRI tech support, and sales reps that i know more than they want me
to. I have so many stories and real life experiences with ESRI that it would
be enough to turn many people away. After much prying from tech support and
sales, I see the full picture. I would not be surprised if this privately
owned company is shoving out tons and tons of copies of their software to
continue to be the monopoly, and then suddenly go public and cash out and
leave the mess for the shareholders. this is a common trend with private
tech companies.

This is just some of my experiences. one good thing the horrible ESRI
software did for me, it drove me to GRASS, QGIS and Mapserver. i thank them
for that. I love Linux and the next logical step was GIS on linux. I know
most all of you on this thread are of the same feeling that GRASS is
awesome. I was so relieved to find GRASS. it revived my hope in GIS. It
brought me back in the game. I am so thankful that all the developers are
continuing to work on GRASS and make it the best out there.

Top Accolades go out to all the open source guys, developers especially but
also the users. this movement is too strong to die or be squashed by
inferior, proprietary software. Let ESRI feel the squeeze. Let the
revolution begin.

=====================================================================

Rajeev,

As Himanshu said, soft-modems or winmodems are not natively supported by most
Linux versions. You are using Mandrake 10.1 which is very old now. Mandriva LE
2005 is the successor of Mandrake and should be tried.

Another thing worth trying out is to check for the deivers for your modems ad
other useful information at http://linmodems.org/

And another useful advice. Keep your CAPSLOCK turned off while composing mails.
Mails written in uppercase letters is considered equivalent to shouting !

Cheers
-Tarun

----- Original Message -----
From: "RAJEEV BAIRWA" <rajeevx_rsd@...>
To: "SUNCITY LUG" <suncityjodhpurlug@...>
Subject: [SunnyLUG] help needed
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:42:16 +0000 (GMT)

>
> HELLO THERE,
> I HAVE A PC WITH THREE MODEM ON ALL MY THREE PCI SLOTS
> ONE IS PCTEL MODEM
> SECOND IS MOTOROLA MODEM & THIRD IS SMARTLINK MODEM
> SL2800 PCI,
>
> SMARTLINK & PCTEL WORKS GOOD IN WIN XP SP2
> BUT THEY FAILS TO BEEN DETECTED BY LINUX
>
> I HAD TRIED ALL THREE LINUX PACKAGES
> FEDORA CORE 3
> FEDORA CORE 4
> MANDRAKE LINUX 10.1 OFFICIAL VERSION
>
> BUT ALL THREE FAILS IN COMPILATION
> PLS HELP  & TELL ME HOW TO PATCH THOSE DRIVERS TO WORK
> THEM IN LINUX.
>
> YOURS
> RAJEEV
>
>
>
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>
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Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)
Scientist C                          /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
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Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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HELLO THERE,
I HAVE A PC WITH THREE MODEM ON ALL MY THREE PCI SLOTS
ONE IS PCTEL MODEM
SECOND IS MOTOROLA MODEM & THIRD IS SMARTLINK MODEM
SL2800 PCI,

SMARTLINK & PCTEL WORKS GOOD IN WIN XP SP2
BUT THEY FAILS TO BEEN DETECTED BY LINUX

I HAD TRIED ALL THREE LINUX PACKAGES
FEDORA CORE 3
FEDORA CORE 4
MANDRAKE LINUX 10.1 OFFICIAL VERSION

BUT ALL THREE FAILS IN COMPILATION
PLS HELP  & TELL ME HOW TO PATCH THOSE DRIVERS TO WORK
THEM IN LINUX.

YOURS
RAJEEV



__________________________________________________________
Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here
http://in.promos.yahoo.com/fabmall/index.html

Rajeev, Welcome aboard !

My advice, freely expeiment with your Linux box. And share you experiences,
throw in your queries and enjoy Linux.
I am sure you will have a nice time with SunnyLUG

Cheers,
-Tarun


----- Original Message -----
From: "RAJEEV BAIRWA" <rajeevx_rsd@...>
To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
Subject: [SunnyLUG] HELLO & WELCOME
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:44:26 +0000 (GMT)

>
> HI THERE ,
> "HAPPY DEEPAWALI & HAPPY NEW YEAR"
> I AM A NEW USER OF THIS GROUP & HAVING A LESS KNOWLEDGE OF LINUX
> B'COZ I AM A NEWBIE, CAN YOU HELP.
>
> YOUR'S SINCERELY
> RAJEEV
> RAJEEV_RSD@...
> RAJEEVX_RSD@...
> RAJEEV_RSD@...
> DATA_RSD@...
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>   Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here



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Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)
Scientist C                          /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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> I think this is the second worm of its type on linux. Ain't it? Are these
> people really fed up of window? :-)


Or people from Windows camp !?!

Whosoever it is, the efforts will largely be futile and not as damaging as on
the other side.


>   regards
> --himanshu
>
>   On 11/9/05, Tarun Kant <tarunkant@...> wrote:
> >
> > Security outfit McAfee has published details of a Linux worm.
> >
> > The worm is a modified derivative of the BSD/Scalper worms and spreads by
> > exploiting web servers hosting vulnerable PHP/CGI scripts.
> >
> > It blindly attacks webservers by sending malicious http requests on port
> > 80. If server happens to run one of the vulnerable scripts the worm is
> > copied and sent out to form a global network of compromised servers which
> > can be used for Zombie attacks or spambots.
> >
> > More here:
> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136821.htm
> >
> >
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FN's Eye on FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software) 10NOV05
................................................................
Please forward this to FLOSS groups you know... help it grow -FN

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FREEBSD ... AND INDIA: When FreeBSD 6.0 got recently
released, one thought of checking out its links with India.
Dru <dlavigne6@...> responded to a query to to say,
"While I don't know about Indian involvement with the FreeBSD
project, I know there is involvement with BSD Certification
(http://www.bsdcertification.org). One of the members of the
bsdcert mailing list will be at FOSS India -- http://foss.in
-- handing out 1500 copies of our brochure. We also have two
translators who are starting translations into Hindi,
Bengali, Tamil and Telegu. As the current chair of the BSD
Certification Group, I am interested in spreading the word
about BSD certification to India."

See bsd-india@... mailing list. Their website
http://bsd-india.org/ was established in 1999 and has 111
members.

Joseph Koshy <joseph.koshy@...> says, "There are indian
programmers who have been working on FreeBSD since 1998."

Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@...> who's an old-time
friend in another context (Goa's first Usenet newsgroup
soc.culture.indian.goa) had this to say,

           I am a FreeBSD committer, and PIO (Person of Indian
           Origin), with roots in Goa.  FreeBSD is an
           open-source project which produces a very
           high-quality, rock solid, operating system.
           FreeBSD traces its roots to some of the earliest
           Unix work done at AT&T and the University of
           California, Berkeley, and is built on solid and
           proven technology.  You can see the history of BSD
           here:


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/share/misc/bsd-family-tree

Many people from around the world and from different
backgrounds contribute to the FreeBSD project, including
Indians.

* Joseph Koshy ( http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy/ ), in
Bangalore, contributed a Performance Measurement Framework --
http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy/projects/perf-measurement/index.html
--  to FreeBSD.  Joseph has also contributed other things to
FreeBSD.

* Mohan Srinivasan <Mohan_Srinivasan@...> works at
Yahoo, and has contributed many fixes to the FreeBSD
networking code. FreeBSD is the primary platform that Yahoo
operates its servers on, so high performance networking code
in FreeBSD is very important to them.

           You should contact Joseph and Mohan directly, to
           get the most accurate information about their
           involvement in FreeBSD, since I might have made
           some mistakes.

           As for myself, Craig Rodrigues
           <rodrigc@...>, I contribute to FreeBSD in
           different areas. For FreeBSD 6.0, I have
           contributed bugfixes to various areas of the
           FreeBSD code. For FreeBSD 7 (which has not been
           released), I am collaborating with Alexander Kabaev
           <kan@...> to port the high performance XFS
           filesystem to FreeBSD.

Unfortunately, we were not able to finish our work for
FreeBSD 6. XFS was originally written by SGI (Silicon
Graphics Inc.) for their IRIX operating system, but they have
ported their code to [GNU]Linux.  Alexander and I are working
to port this code to FreeBSD, and we have a project web page
at: http://people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/xfs/

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Marco Fioretti <marco.fioretti@...>
who has worked on the RULE project [1] says he is rebuilding
that site from scratch right now, but have also started in
another FLOSS-related project. It's the OpenDocument
fellowship, its mission and and its petition to add
OpenDocument support in Microsoft Office

           http://opendocumentfellowship.org

Says Marco: "Please let me know your opinion, and let the
news circulate in India as much as possible if they already
haven't. You're obviously encouraged to tell people to
contact me, and to let me know anything OpenDocument related
happening in India."

           Marco Fioretti   OpenDocument Fellowship Committee Member
           http://opendocumentfellowship.org
           Everybody's Guide to OpenDocument:
           www.linuxjournal.com/article/8616

[1] What is the RULE Project about?

The problem: Hardware is not cheap. There are plenty of
single users, schools and non-profit organizations with null
or very little money for computers. Furthermore, PCs pollute
a lot, hence they should be used as long as possible. Not
with older Free Software, however, which is useless and
dangerous: null support, security holes, no IMAP, GPG,
HTML4...

           Our solution: Hardware is only as old as the
           software it runs. RULE wants to make modern Free
           Software useable even on 5 or more years old
           machines, on which current Linux distributions
           won't install or run too slowly.

Today we work on Fedora simply because the project started
among users of Red Hat Linux. To this purpose, M. Fratoni
wrote first Miniconda and later Slinky, two installers for
those distributions working in as little as 12 MB of RAM.

http://www.rule-project.org/

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PHOENIX ... USEFUL FOR PHYSICS EXPERIMENTS: Ajith Kumar
<ajith@...> writes: You may remember me, Ajith
Kumar, did the GLUE CD earlier. Phoenix is a simple computer
interface that can be used for doing Physics experiments,
data acquisition and control implemented in the same box.

           The interesting part is the Phoenix Live CD
           http://www.nsc.res.in/~elab/ISO/index.html A
           variation of SLAX but packed with lot of software
           development tools and educational software. It can
           also be installed to a harddisk partition within
           three minutes (celeron 2.5 GHz). The downloadable
           ISO is there on our site. If your bandwidth is low
           send me your postal address. Our institue name has
           been changed to Inter-University Accelerator Centre
           (earlier Nuclear Science Centre).

PHYSICS WITH HOMEMADE EQUIPMENT and Innovative Experiments:
This project is a part of the program by Inter University
Accelerator Centre to improve the laboratory facilities at
the universities. Unlike the other equipments developed in
for this purpose, phoenix is kept as an open ended project
where teaching community can contribute.

Objectives:

     * Improve the accuracy of existing experiments by
       redesigning them using the low cost interface.
     * Encourage students and teachers to design new
       experiments.
     * Learn science from the experimental data by
       constructing mathematical models governing various
       phenomena.
     * Create a synergy between engineering and physics
       students so that new physics experiments can be
       designed as the project works of the former.
     * Develop demonstrations that can be used in the
       classroom.
     * Student projects based on phoenix
     * Demos and science fare items for school students.

There can be achieved only with active collaboration of large
number of people at various levels. Contributions from
physicists, engineers,teachers and students are equally
important. The hardware for the basic interfacing circuit has
been done and all the details are available to anyone who is
interested. Those who are interested in manufacturing and
selling it commercially, see the vendors section. Those who
want to make it for educational purposes may contact us only
if they need some help. We need to develop more accessories
using various sensor elements to make the unit more
effective.

The software available at the moment are a device driver,
libraries accessible from C, Python and Scilab and some
application programs for some experiments. All of them are
distributed under GNU GPL. Phoenix Mailing List

To join the list send a mail to
phoenix-project-request@... with the word subscribe
in the subject line. To post a message send it to
phoenix-project@.... List Archives at
http://www.freelists.org/archives/phoenix-project/

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ABOUT ASTRONOMY AND GNU/LINUX: Anurag Garg
<friends_ang@...> says: "I'm a student of M.Sc.
Physics in DU, Delhi (India). I've been using {GNU]Linux for
the past five mounth in my projects and reserch work related
to astronomy. A few days back i was serching for some useful
softwares for astronomy that could be run on [GNULinux and
came to know about this OS "Linux for Astronomy". I would be
very thankful to u if anybody could suggest a place near
Delhi from where i could buy this OS.

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           HELPING POSTGRESQL: Abhijit Menon-Sen
           <ams@...> says that he has volunteered to
           help with the PostgreSQL regional contact (a sort
           of press liaison) for India. His work includes
           forwarding press releases to press people. If you
           can put Abhijit with presspersons who would be
           interested, please do.

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FOSS.IN DELEGATES CAN REGISTER NOW: The Delegate Registration
for Nov 29-Dec 2 FOSS.IN/2005 in Bangalore is now open.
http://foss.in/2005/delegates/

Please remember -

     * you do not pay now - you register now
     * you pay at the venue
     * if you have registered online and have your delegate
       code with you you pay Rs.500, else you pay Rs.750.
     * read the instructions you will receive in email
     * read the delegate guidelines

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INDLINUX, the network to promote FLOSS in Indic languages, is
planning its presence at FOSS.In, the end-November mega-event
at Bangalore. G Karunakar <karunakar@...> says
they'll be at the event for the fourth time in a row.

           IndLinux stall will yet again be the center point
           for all you want to know about Indic on FLOSS,
           localization etc. They are one of the oldest FOSS
           projects in India and have been in FLOSS
           localization area for last six years.

Their stall will feature demos, hands on and answer queries
on using Indic with FLOSS. Writes Karunakar, who recently
visited Goa too: "We would probably have couple of demo
machines and laptops (and obviously any other machine nearby
will be encroached upon and Indicized forever!). Those with
CD writers in your laptops, you are always welcome to the
Stall & will be treated as guests of honour, since the stall
will always be manned, you can leave those precious things
and go attend talks and while we will be busy burning CDs on
them!" Volunteers welcome.

           For more on Indic stuff at FOSS.IN keep tracking
           http://www.indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/Indic%40FOSS.IN
           and the IndLinux blog http://www.indlinux.org/blog

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LINTUX NEWSLETTER, FROM MANGALORE IN WESTERN INDIA: Nithin
Kamath <knithink@...> has this useful LinTux Newsletter
"Spreading the Spirit of GNU/Linux". Issue #51 is just out.
Check http://groups-beta.google.com/group/lintux

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ONE DAY, ONE COMMAND... LEARN IT SLOW AND STEADY: Bharathi
Subramanian <sbharathi@...> puts out a very useful
One Day One GNU/Linux Command series. It's available at ODOC
LJ -- http://www.livejournal.com/community/ilugc/

           Every day (or, almost), the commands are updated in
           the above link. Says Bharathi: "I am looking for
           contributors to ODOC. How you can contribute??
           Just take one command and prepare a mail in our
           ODOC format. Don't include hi-tech stuffs and
           target the newbies. Mail it to me. That ODOC will
           be posted with your name."

FN recommends this as a simple-yet-great tool to build
awareness about GNU/Linux and Free/Libre and Open Source
Software. You can request Bharathi and he'll post it to your
user-group regularly. A great tool to build your FSUG, GLUG
and LUG too!

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           FREE SOFTWARE, TEACHERS AND KERALA: Arun M
           <arun@...> informs via the FSF-Friends
           mailing list that KSTA, the school teachers' union
           in Kerala is distributing custom Debian CDs and
           installation manuals around Kerala. "More and more
           schools moving towards free software," he writes.
           See the FSF-Friends mailing list at
           http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends

MEANWHILE, FROM TAJIKISTAN, Asomiddin Atoev
<asomiddin@...> reports what he calls some "very good
news for Tj FOSS community": A new IT curriculum for
secondary education was approved by the Ministry of Education
last week. It is platform independent unlike the former one
that was solely Microsoft-oriented.

FOR THOSE INTERESTED in Free Software and education, check
schoolforge-discuss@...

           Schoolforge's mission is to unify independent
           organizations that advocate, use, and develop open
           resources for primary and secondary education.
           Schoolforge is intended to empower member
           organizations to make open educational resources
           more effective, efficient, and ubiquitous by
           enhancing communication, sharing resources, and
           increasing the transparency of development.
           Schoolforge members advocate the use of open source
           and free software, open texts and lessons, and open
           curricula for the advancement of education and the
           betterment of humankind. http://schoolforge.net/

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Copyleft verbatim copying, with credits is both allowed and
encouraged. We invite you to ILUG-Goa, the friendly GNU/Linux
user group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa/join

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Security outfit McAfee has published details of a Linux worm.

The worm is a modified derivative of the BSD/Scalper worms and spreads by
exploiting web servers hosting vulnerable PHP/CGI scripts.

It blindly attacks webservers by sending malicious http requests on port 80. If
server happens to run one of the vulnerable scripts the worm is copied and sent
out to form a global network of compromised servers which can be used for Zombie
attacks or spambots.

More here:
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136821.htm



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>                          TUX Desktop Watch -- October 25
>       _________________________________________________________________
>
>    Feature Links
>
>     How to Choose a Canine Companion, or Finding the Right Distro:
>     http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000160 -- Author Peter van der Linden
>     explains the process he went through to decide which Linux desktop
>     distribution to write about and include as a CD-ROM in his new book.
>     What does Linspire offer that made it the best choice for Peter? Will
>     it work for you?
>
>     Linux Desktop Review:
>     http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000161 -- The recently announced LSB
>     Desktop Project wants to standardize many of the under-the-hood
>     installation requirements among Linux distributions so software
>     vendors can have an easier time developing applications for the Linux
>     desktop; Indonesia announces a national desktop system, and the
>     country's going open source; a new Mozilla-based Web browser that lets
>     you blog, share photos, create and share favorites lists--all from one
>     interface.
>
>    TUX Issue #8 on the Way
>
>     The new issue of Tux will be available on November 1. Subscribe now:
>     https://www.ssc.com/tx/subs/DigitalSub.php so you don't miss out on
>     "Wireless Networking with ndiswrapper", "Civil Disobedience and
>     Linux", "Q&A with Mango Parfait", plus Reviews and Gadget Guy.
>
>    From Our Sister Publications
>
>     Linux Journal -- Everybody's Guide to OpenDocument:
>     http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8616
>     Massachusetts wants to make the OpenDocument file format the standard
>     for new government files, starting in 2007. Some people and groups are
>     protesting this move and using false and incomplete information to do
>     so. Here, Marco Fioretti tries to sort the truth from the
>     misconceptions regarding this universal file format.
>
>     IT Garage -- DRM is a GOLEM:
>     http://garage.docsearls.com/node/668
>     "I didn't like this piece because it's pro-DRM. For example, it
>     doesn't visit the reasons why millions of people "steal"
>     recordings.... And there are the roadblocks and other frictions that
>     the record industry has created to "protect" what is essentially
>     unprotectable, while avoiding creative approaches to participation in
>     a marketplace where the demand side has as much power to supply as the
>     old supply side."
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HAPPY DIWALI TO YOU ALL  & A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TOO!!!!

-- Himanshu

--
======================
Himanshu Chauhan
Software Engineer
OSX Audio Driver &
DSP Engineer
Singing Electrons, Inc.
+91-98292-92757
www.singingelectrons.com
========================

This communication aims to inform the Linux community about the
information contained in the magazine, and we hope that it will be
taken positively.

Dear Linux enthusiasts,

With the November issue of LINUX For You - Asia's only magazine on
Linux and Open Source - the new magazine layout just got better. The
fonts look sharper, the text crisper and right from the cover-page,
the issue is an improvement. We like to call it The New Layout version
2.1  :-) . The content this month includes some of the best articles
from the Tux magazine and the Linux Journal. And to top it all, there
is the brand new SUSE 10.0 OSS on the DVD that we've bundled for you.

THE NEW AVATAR OF LINUX FOR YOU

An attempt has been made in the new LFY to categorise articles
according to the target audience. This ensures that readers--Newbies
and OpenGurus--can easily find all the articles that they feel
interested in. This has been facilitated further by the new 'improved'
Contents section that we've designed for you.

The content this month has been chosen to make the common user's life
simpler and smarter. Besides, there are articles that keep you updated
and in sync with the hottest technologies of the day.

Some cool articles in the new issue that will grab your attention are:

POSSIBILITIES UNLIMITED

Rip Your Music CDs With K3B -- For the uninitiated, K3B the popular
CD-burning utility for Linux is also an excellent ripping tool. This
article tells you why!

Are You Gaim? -- An interesting round-up on the finest IM tool for the
Linux environment. Communicate instantly with your friends using any
messaging protocol Yahoo!, AOL, MSN. There is a round-up of how you
can even use the new Google Talk with Gaim.

Xine -- the movie player for Linux -- Having trouble getting started
with this superb multimedia application for Linux? Chill -- LFY has
this excellent hands-on guide for you.


THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK


An interesting review of the all-new Ubuntu Hoary. Argument enough to
make sure you can't resist installing it on your PC.


OTHER GREAT ARTICLES

-------------------------------------
Rip Music and Save Disk Space with KaudioCreator

An interesting roundup on the WikiMedia project

How to beat Keyloggers at their own game?

Part II of the series on OpenSSH


There's lots more! Just have a look at the Latest Issue section at
http://www.linuxforu.com for Contents and Articles.

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There is the brand new SUSE 10.0 OSS that everyone has been waiting to
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--------------

A host of packages for newbies and advanced users - handpicked to
suite your taste.


LFY CD 2
---------------


SUSE 10.0 OSS - the first from the openSUSE stable - is a distro that
is aesthetic, easy to use and packs in a lot of punch! Just give it a
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Banglore              Mr. Devaru Bhatt          080-22261305
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Chennai               Mr. Vijay Rengan          044-28273893

Hyderabad             Mr. Ramesh Rajgopal       040-27564945
                                                 040-27561140

Kolkata               Mr. Mehta                 033-2498096

Mumbai                Mr. Indur Vaswani         022-24943707

New Delhi             Mr. P. K. Das             011-23313014

Pune                  Mr. Ashok Basant          020-26131261

Trivandrum            Mr. Hari Kumar            0471-2475443

Hello all,

Read this out:

http://embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=172302793

regards
--Himanshu
--
======================
Himanshu Chauhan
Software Engineer
OSX Audio Driver &
DSP Engineer
Singing Electrons, Inc.
+91-98292-92757
www.singingelectrons.com
========================

O'Reilly has published a book for software developers and managers who have
started, or are considering starting, an open source project. Producing Open
Source Software, by Karl Fogel, aims to help projects avoid failure by outlining
best -- and worst -- practices.

The 302-page book is available now direct
(http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/producingoss/) from O'Reilly, priced at $24.95.
A sample chapter (PDF file) is available for download
(http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/producingoss/chapter/ch04.pdf).


Cheers,
-Tarun


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Best way to acquire is to make your own Linux logo T-shirt. Buy inkjet
fabric-transfer paper and iron the logo of your choice to your T

However, you can buy Linux/OSS Ts in Bangalore from GT Enterprises. I don't know
their present position, but they used to sell lot of  'Linux-things' including
T-shirts. Their website can be reached here:
http://www.gtcdrom.com/

Also Linux Bazaar is giving complimentary Ts upon purchase of Linux CDs from
them. For details see:
http://www.linuxbazar.com/

Cheers
-Tarun


----- Original Message -----
From: "G@nu" <ganumaharaj@...>
To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
Subject: [SunnyLUG] from where i can get..
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:55:30 +0530

>
> hi ,
>   any body knows from wherer I can get t-shirts printed as "tux" or "linux"
> or "opensource concept"
>   I am open source developer from bangalore... so any shop in bangalore..
>   thnx...
>
> --
> G@nu


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--- Brad Stone <bmestone@...> wrote:

> Hello people,
>
> Just a quick question (it's a less Linux, and more
> open-source generally but
> hoped you could help anyway). Anyone know any good
> open-source
> photo-manipulation software. Basically Photoshop but
> (hopefully) better
> and.. ahem, free. It's just I'm trying to wean my
> little cousin off
> proprietary software, and into the open-source
> world, she needs a new
> photo-thingy and this seems like a good opportunity!

  certainly you can use Gimp  from gimp.org. Gimp has
all the functions of photoshop. Another bit imprvised
version of gimp is available, it is called cinepaint
http://cinepaint.movieeditor.com/. Infact cinepaint is
used by hollywood. Some of the movies touched using
cinepaint include The last samurai, Stuart little,
stuart little 2, planet of apes and harry potter
series. There is one problem with cinepaint, it is not
stable on windows platform and will take some time to
stabalize on windows platform.

regards
VK

Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have  a
solution in search of a problem.



Disclaimer
The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The
distinction is yours to draw...




__________________________________
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
http://mail.yahoo.com

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FN's Eye on FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software  ........
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MEET INDIAN FLOSS BLOGGERS: http://planet.foss.in/
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FOSS4US blog (NGOs and FLOSS) http://foss4us.org/blog

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NEWS FROM BANGALORE AND PLANS FOR FOSS.IN: Atul Chitnis
<mail@...> writes on the
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/foss-in-announce/ list:

           This is it, the last day of speaker and talks
           registration for FOSS.IN/2005.

By midnight tonight (October 8th), we will be closing
registration for talks for the technical and community
sessions of the event. Speakers who have registered but not
submitted any talks will be removed from the speaker database
tonight.

           So if you are planning to submit any talks - you
           have till midnight tonight (GMT+0530!)

FOSS.IN seems to be generating massive amounts of enthusiasm
in the Linux community, and *especially* in the BSD community
(who have proposed several talks and workshops), the Gentoo
community, the Debian community, etc.

The FOSS community rulez!

I will send in another mail giving you some top level stats
about talks and speakers once we close registrations tonight.

           Once registrations close, we will spend a couple of
           days sorting things out, checking which talks need
           work on, and will release the first shortlist
           (minus work-in-progress talks and "star" talks) on
           schedule in the evening of the 12th of October.
           (See the schedule at http://foss.in/2005/cfp/).

Once clashes and WIP talks are sorted out, we will release a
second list with these added. "Star" speakers will be
announced as soon as the remaining major sponsor
confirmations come in.

Call for participation for business sessions and student
talks will go out early next week. Stay tuned. Atul

-----------------------------------------------------------
FOSS.IN/2005 India's Premiere Free & Open Source Software
Event Nov 29 to Dec 2, 2005 Bangalore Palace.  foss.in/2005
Speaker Registration open till Oct.08, 2005
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WANTED, CODERS FOR AN EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT-ORIENTED GAME:
Sunil Abraham sunil@... of Bangalore sent across this
note from his friend Dev <dev@...> who put
forward a specific proposal.

           Dev wrote: "I need your help to find young social
           technopreneurs (in your circle its probably Open
           source software engineers who might want to design
           a game like WFP Food Force or other software)."

Global Knowledge Partnership's Youth Social Enterprise
Initiative (YSEI) fellowships are designed to help social
entrepreneurs achieve their goals from the initial idea
through to project implementation and impact creation.

They seek to support projects by young people who are
creating impact with innovative solutions to social problems,
especially those using information and communication
technologies (ICTs) for development. YSEI will support
fellows by providing mentorship and training programmes;
networking; and seed grants.

If you are a young social entrepreneur (age <30) from India,
Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Philippines and Malaysia in search for
support and opportunities. Please visit
www.globalknowledge.org/ysei OR www.futureshifters.net to
learn more and submit your proposal by 31st October 2005.

Youth Social Enterprise Initiative (YSEI) is a Global
Knowledge Partnership (GKP) Youth Program supported by the
Swiss Agency for Development and Cooperation (SDC). Its
partners include MITRA, OrphanIT, TakingITGlobal,
YoungAsiaTelevision, Philippines Resources for Sustainable
Development (PRSD), Development Research Network (D.Net) with
TRN as the intiative's lead.

Sunil Abraham <sunil@...> also happens to be manager
of the IOSN.net In addition, he's behind the Mahiti group in
Bangalore. http://www.mahiti.org 314/1, 7th Cross, Domlur
Bangalore - 560 071 Karnataka, INDIA Ph/Fax: +91 80 51150580.
Mob: (91) 9342201521 UK: (44) 02000000259

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YOUNG NETWORK IN GOA: Our friend 'DP' of the Goa Lug
rediscovered this abandoned network and is trying to rebuild
it. It's in the town of Ponda in central Goa. A place where a
small but committed number of techies are deeply interested
in GNU/Linux. Please offer your support:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-ponda

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AN INTERESTING LINK: Guru Prasath <aprasadh@...> posted
to the SonaLUG <sonalug@yahoogroups.com> recently, a link
that gives an interesting background, in all its graphic
detail:

           Unix history in graphic.
           http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html

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ENGICOS TAKE TO FLOSS, AND THEIR COLLEGE DISTRO IS BORN: Prof
George Easaw <geasaw@...> of the Goa Engineering
College, the live-wire behind Free/Libre and Open Source
Software in that part of Goa, reports:

           The Goa Engicos linux iso, it is available for
           download from http://www.gec.ac.in/me , the
           temporary homepage of the mech engg dept.

           There you can find the link to engicos.iso. Right
           click and click on 'save link target as' and save
           it to your pc. Cut it on a cd and you can start the
           pc afresh.

Contact: George Easaw Mech Engg. Dept., College of Engg.
Ponda, Goa, 403 401. INDIA. ring : (0832) - 2319185

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WHY GNU/LINUX NEEDS A MENTOR PROGRAM: See this interesting
essay at
http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/09/13/1816200&from=rss

Why Linux needs a mentor program By: Tarun Agnani: Imagine
you're a new Linux user. You ordered an Ubuntu CD weeks ago
and forgot about it. You're surprised it actually comes in
the mail. You slap the shiny disc into your PC and cross your
fingers. The installation is quite slick. You're impressed by
the splash screen and attractive desktop. Wow, you think
you're hot stuff -- a Linux user. But the euphoria fades as
you realize there's a problem with your modem. Now what do
you do? ...

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FLOSS FELLOWSHIPS FROM SARAI: V Vivek <viyyer@...>
announces the Sarai/CSDS Short Term FLOSS Fellowship,
2005-2006.

           The Sarai Programme, Centre for the Study of
           Developing Societies, Delhi (www.sarai.net) invites
           applications for fellowship to projects in the area
           of Free Software, Open Source Software and Social
           Usage of Software.

Sarai invites developers, researchers and programmers
(practitioners as well as students) to propose projects in
the area of free and open source software applications
relevant to educational, social and community needs. They are
looking for original ideas, as well as proposals to localize
and adapt existing software and applications to South Asian
conditions. They are also looking for ideas around technical
manuscripts, beginners' manuals, review manuscripts etc.

Some of the focus areas are:

- Indic Computing
- Developing/Distributing/Supporting a standalone / addon
   localized  Linux distribution
- Printing support (i.e. ability to print in Indian
   Languages)
- Multimedia / Publishing Tools Research
- Developing / Enhancing Tools like GIMP, Scribus for
   publishing quality work
- Enhancing current audio/video tools available under
   Linux
- Fixing/Supporting Cinelerra, LiVES etc
- P2P
- Researching on feasibility and implementation of P2P news
   distribution network
- Researching and developing
- Collaboration Tools/Frameworks
   (Apnaopus, CreativeDot  )
- Developing extensions for the project newsrack
   http://floss.sarai.net/newsrack
- Low Resource Computing
- Devising solutions for networked computing in Low Resource
   Spaces (Define the parameters of the "low resource space"
   and work on it)
- Generic
- Developing Linux drivers/software for easily available
   hardware (usually the cheapest hardware available on the
   market is not supported under Linux (scanners, webcams etc))
   [This would include writing a howto on how to get it to
   work under popular distributions (redhat, pcqlinux etc) and
   all.]
- Review papers on emerging technologies
   - Indic Computing
   - IPV6
   - Wireless Networks
- Manuscripts for beginners

For more information visit www.sarai.net. Sarai says it "is
committed to promoting the free software and open source
vision".

Conditions: Applicants should be resident in India, and
should have a bank account in any bank operating in India.
These are support grants and grantees will be free to pursue
their primary occupations, if any. Mail your project
proposal, workplan and CV to both the following addresses:
floss at sarai.net
<https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc>

Please mark your subject line 'FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source
Software) Initiative'.  Also point out what you see as the
relevance of your work, and how you plan to share the
resultant software once finalized.

Enquires: floss at sarai.net

Note: Proposals from teams, partnerships, collectives,
faculty are welcome, so long as the grant amount is
administered by a single individual, and the funds are
deposited in a single bank account in the name of an
individual. *** Knowlege is power... share it equitably!

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           MAILING LIST FOR e-learning in FLOSS:
           ELEARN-OPENSOURCE@...

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Copyleft -- verbatim copying, with credits -- allowed/encouraged.

Dear Linux enthusiasts,

The October issue of LINUX For You, Asia's only magazine on Linux and
Open Source, is out in a completely new layout. LINUX For You is now a
single magazine--LFY and LFY Pro have been merged into one. There are
a lot of subtle improvements in the format of the magazine that you'll
find interesting--the articles have been classified differently, the
colour-scheme of the magazine is aesthetic and farm-fresh. And what's
more--we have lots of good articles that make the layout changes
worthwhile.

This communication aims to inform the Linux community about the
information contained in the magazine, and we hope that it will be
taken positively.

THE NEW AVATAR OF LINUX FOR YOU

An attempt has been made in the new LFY to categorise articles
according to the target audience. This ensures that readers--Newbies
and OpenGurus--can easily find all the articles that they feel
interested in. This has been facilitated further by the new 'improved'
Contents section that we've designed for you.

Some cool articles in the new issue that will grab your attention are:

ARTICLES IN FOCUS
----------------------------------------

openSUSE Unveiled --   Our Cover Story this month introduces you to
the the distro that is taking the world by storm. The strategy, the
players, the distro and how to install it--read in all in LFY this month.

What's Happening in the 64-bit arena? -- Thinking of buying that
ubercool 64-bit processor. We tell you in LFY this month why Linux and
64-bit technology look a cute couple together. Also, pointers to what
64-bit processors can do for you and your business. Gaming fanatics,
take note!


ARTICLES THAT PUT YOU IN CONTROL
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Triple-booting with Xandros, Demystified

Enhance Ubuntu with a Remote Internet Connection found on the Ubuntu
5.04 installation C.
PC-BSD To Rev Up Your Desktop

Security and Optimisation with Apache and PHPs the fastest Web
scripting language, but your program can crawl if it is not well
written. Or it can compromise
Network Programming in the Kernel

Installing Oracle 9i on Red Hat Linux



There's lots more! Just have a look at the Latest Issue section at
http://www.linuxforu.com for Contents and Articles.
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you've always wanted to try BSD, but never could do it due to its
involved installation procedure—PC-BSD is for yo.


THE CDs
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The two CDs we bundled with the issue pack in a lot of goodies for
everyone--the newbie, the geek and the guru!

LFY CD 1
--------------

For the newbie, we have MADPLAY, TuxSaver, FCKeditor, arCHMage,
Quicktime Player and the Flash player.
For developers, we bundle Bluefish 1.0.4, Game Editor, XAMPP, JetNuke
Power User: XGen Plus 9.1, Joone, NBTscan, STunnel and PHPWiki.
There are games as well that will help you unwind--Word Search, Spooky
Shooter, VDrift and SpacePong
And yes, we haven't forgotten them this time as well : The Fedora Core
3 Latest Updates.

LFY CD 2
---------------

The distro this month is the powerful and easy-to-use PC-BSD. Leverage
the phenomenal power of BSD with this distro that is easy to install
and use. So go on.. give BSD a try!


GRAB YOUR COPY OF LFY
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In case you have problems getting your copy of LFY, please feel free
to reach out to our dealers listed below.

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Ahmedabad      Mr. S. K. Sharma          079-26577068


Banglore       Mr. Devaru Bhatt          080-22261305
                                                       080-22252385

Chennai        Mr. Pandu                   044-28273893

Hyderabad      Mr. Ramesh Rajgopal       040-27564945
                                                              040-27561140

Kolkata               Mr. Lal                   033-2498096
                          Mr. Mehta                 033-2498097

Mumbai         Mr. Kirti Chonkar         022-24925651
                         Mr. S. Roy                022-24942538

New Delhi      Mr. P. K. Das             011-23313014

Pune           Mr. Basant                020-26131261

Trivandrum     Mr. Hari Kumar            0471-2475443

Motorola does

On 10/5/05, Hardeep Singh Rai <hsrai@...> wrote:
> --- In SunCityJodhpurLUG@..., vivek khurana
> <khuranavivek_in@y...> wrote:
> >
> >  No it is not possible. Most of the functions of your
> > mobile are not known to open world. Also without
> > complete knowledge of instrnals it would be next to
> > impossible for you to cross complie linux for target
> > platform.
>
> O.K. If Nokia is not opening its architecture, then is there anu
> manufacturer of Mobile, which do so. If yes, then I am ready to
> replace my Nokia handset with that.
>
> > ... to run on target platform. As for transfering
> > information you dont need usniversal OS. You can
> > tranfer information between devices using technology
> > stacks like IRDA, Bluetooth, USB, USB Lan etc.
>
> The support for such devices is limited on Linux. Mine Mobie has
> POP-Port, which seems has no support on Linux. If if I have
> communication with PC, then manufacturer gave me software which compel
> me to use M$ outlook or Lotus's products to have sycronisation
>
> Here I want freedom to have application of my choice, and that way,
> acceptable to me I need to use such applicatin on Mobile, to keep
> syncronisation easy.
>
> --
> H.S.Rai
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
======================
Himanshu Chauhan
Software Engineer
OSX Audio Driver &
DSP Engineer
Singing Electrons, Inc.
+91-98292-92757
www.singingelectrons.com
========================