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~~~~~~~~~~~
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--- In SunCityJodhpurLUG@..., H S Rai <hsrai@g...> wrote:
>
> Yesterday at 12:06pm -0000 Mathur wrote:
>
> >   If members are agree to this idea, I'll send few of the stuff,
> >   dividing them in small chunks.
>
> You may upload file in file section of this group,
In this case again if we go for one tip one file, there would be good
no. of file. If we still go with files, this will increase headache of
Tarun as we need to send each file to him for review and then it would
be uploaded.


> or may use random
> tips, below your signature.
I've given my views in my last email

>Or you may have it on your web-site and
> can post its URL on this mailing list.
>

Yes this can be but again not all may have their own site. But still
this idea is good.

Let us have sugggestions from our other members.

> --
> H. S. Rai
> _____________________________________________________________________
> http://www.grex.org/~hsrai | Alternate E-mail: hsrai@m...
> ___________________________|_________________________________________
>
> :
> ####[ GNU/Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]#######################
>
> Sub : Knowing your IDE HDD parameters                LOST #226
>
> To know the IDE hard disk identification info  which was found
> by the kernel at boot time, inclusive of things like the model
> serial number, as root try: #hdparm -i /dev/hdx (where x is a,
> b, c etc).
>
> ####[bish (at) nde.vsnl.net.in]###############################
> :
>

Hi f'ends,

Recently I've installed SuSE 10.0 on my server with Tomcat, Apache,
MySQL, Samba, SSH etc.

So far I've started using Samba and SSH and facing one strange problem
that after a fixed amount of time, all services are getting
disconnected from a particular client machine for a small duration.

During the disconnected time, the same client gets connection refused
err from the server, whereas other client can get connected to the
server to the ssh/ samba on same ports.

I tried to get it in google and all security files..but no use :-(

Please help

Thanks

Saksham

--- In SunCityJodhpurLUG@..., H S Rai <hsrai@g...> wrote:
>
> Yesterday at 12:06pm -0000 Mathur wrote:
>
> >   If members are agree to this idea, I'll send few of the stuff,
> >   dividing them in small chunks.
>
> What about LOST, see below signature.
>
>
Yes I used to look on your signature for various tips, but in my views
these are not searchable. What I feel, if the subject line itself have
something related to tip, it will be easier to search, else in LOST
case, we may need to open each and every email sent by you for a tip.

--
> H. S. Rai
> _____________________________________________________________________
> http://www.grex.org/~hsrai | Alternate E-mail: hsrai@m...
> ___________________________|_________________________________________
>
> :
> ####[ GNU/Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]#######################
>
> Sub : Line numbering your programs (#3)              LOST #152
>
> Want a listing of your program with line numbers ?
> Use `cat -n my-file' to print my-file with line numbers.
> This is specially useful when you want the output sent to
> another file or printer [ e.g. cat -n test.c | lpr ]
>
> ####[karra (at) cs.utah.edu]##################################
> :
>

Yesterday at 12:06pm -0000 Mathur wrote:

>   If members are agree to this idea, I'll send few of the stuff,
>   dividing them in small chunks.

You may upload file in file section of this group, or may use random
tips, below your signature. Or you may have it on your web-site and
can post its URL on this mailing list.

--
H. S. Rai
_____________________________________________________________________
http://www.grex.org/~hsrai | Alternate E-mail: hsrai@...
___________________________|_________________________________________

:
####[ GNU/Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]#######################

Sub : Knowing your IDE HDD parameters                LOST #226

To know the IDE hard disk identification info  which was found
by the kernel at boot time, inclusive of things like the model
serial number, as root try: #hdparm -i /dev/hdx (where x is a,
b, c etc).

####[bish (at) nde.vsnl.net.in]###############################
:

Yesterday at 12:06pm -0000 Mathur wrote:

>   If members are agree to this idea, I'll send few of the stuff,
>   dividing them in small chunks.

What about LOST, see below signature.

--
H. S. Rai
_____________________________________________________________________
http://www.grex.org/~hsrai | Alternate E-mail: hsrai@...
___________________________|_________________________________________

:
####[ GNU/Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]#######################

Sub : Line numbering your programs (#3)              LOST #152

Want a listing of your program with line numbers ?
Use `cat -n my-file' to print my-file with line numbers.
This is specially useful when you want the output sent to
another file or printer [ e.g. cat -n test.c | lpr ]

####[karra (at) cs.utah.edu]##################################
:

Hi f'ends,

I believe that our group is having both Gurus and newbies as its
members. Can we have a feature of sending tips to the group which may
help to lotsa linux users.

In my views, the tips should be short and specific to one task, not
combining multiple, so that while searching for the particular stuff,
one can have direct idea without thinking for the complication.

If members are agree to this idea, I'll send few of the stuff,
dividing them in small chunks.

Suggestions plz.

Saksham Mathur
http://sh.ansulvash.info

Thanks Tarun......


--- Tarun Kant <tarunkant@...> wrote:

> Pankaj,
>
> You can post genuine referal posts regarding
> openings in your organizations to this group on the
> following conditions:
> 1. It should be related to OSS / Linux
> 2. You do attach an appropriate tag before the
> subject line for instance [OT: Job opening]
>
> Cheers,
> -Tarun
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "pankaj mathur" <pankajtam@...>
> > To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
> > Subject: Fwd: [SunnyLUG] Openings Posting!!!Admin
> Can u reply to this.......
> > Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 05:58:01 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >
> > Note: forwarded message attached.
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: pankajtam <pankajtam@...>
> > To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
> > Subject: [SunnyLUG] Openings Posting
> > Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:09:02 -0000
> >
> >
> > Gents,
> >        I am working with S1 services(I) pvt ltd.
> as System Analyst. At
> > times we have multiple openings in our
> organizations for various
> > capacities. Is this okay to post the referral mail
> posting on this
> > grou? I am asking it upfront if it is going to
> assist people associated
> > with this group in finding jobs. The postings will
> not be that
> > frequent... but if it is really going to help ppl
> looking for
> > opportunities..... then let me know....
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pankaj Mathur
> > System Analyst
> > S1 Services Pvt. Ltd., Pune.
> > Tel: +91 020 6609 1460
> > URL: http://www.s1.com
>
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)
> Scientist C                          /\\
> Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
> Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
> Arid Forest Research Institute
> New Pali Road
> Jodhpur 342005 India
> Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
> Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
> I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4764565.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 12 May 2006, 11:32 GMT 12:32 UK
India lays down 'open' challenge

After his first trip to India, regular columnist Bill Thompson looks
forward to the end of western domination of the free software community

Indian computer programmer
India's programmers are writing code to meet their own needs
The five of us bounced out of the restaurant at around 10, after a great
meal, some beers and the usual arguments about preferred programming
languages, the future of free and open source software and the merits of
Terry Pratchett's later works.

It was a warm night so we crossed the street to get something to cool us
down - not ice cream, but the best kulfi in the Defence Colony, one of
the hippest areas in downtown New Delhi.

It was my last night in India after four days making Digital Planet
specials with the World Service.

My new friends from the Delhi Linux User Group had dragged me out of my
luxurious business hotel into the real city for a meal.

The sizzling paneer and noodles were excellent. The beer was cold. And
the kulfi was as good as Raj had promised.

But even better was the chance to make a connection with a group of
people outside the US and Europe who are working with the Linux
operating system.

Indian problems

I'd come to India with the sense that, like Brazil and other countries
outside the West that are taking free software seriously, India is
moving into a new phase in its use of free and open source software.

These guys - and it was a boy's night out, though there are women
members of the group too - are using the freedom which the Linux
distribution licence gives them to build tools and technologies for
themselves.

They don't have to wait for a far-distant company to decide whether
their market is big enough or commercially viable. If they need code
that meets their specific needs, they can just write it themselves.

They are certainly going beyond the point where they take code from the
US and Europe and spend their effort "localising" it by adding support
for local languages.

[Bill Thompson: Free software provides a bridge between the affluence of
the West and the poverty of most of the world's population.]

But according to Raj and Mary, both Linux experts, Indian coders are
still isolated from each other, and although they contribute to many
projects there is no real focus on solving Indian problems.

The website of the Free Software Foundation of India lists a few dozen
India-based projects, but there is apparently a long way to go before a
real free software community emerges.

And while Government support for free software is genuine, government
computer departments do not contribute to other projects and do not make
their work available for others to build on. The government just sees
free software as a way to save on licenses.

This is a shame, as there is a political dimension to the use of free
software which will be very important for India and other developing
countries.

Liberal Origins

Until now free and open source software has been one of the ways in
which the US spread its values around the world, the soft guy approach
that seems to oppose, but in fact is symbiotic with hard-edged
capitalism on the Microsoft and Intel model.

Both are firmly embedded in US cultural values, and the free market is
as important to Linux as it is to Microsoft.

Linus Torvalds
Linus Torvalds: creator of Linux

If we consider its origins within the post-hippy hacker culture of MIT
then we can see that free software is as parasitic on the larger
computer industry and its capitalist ethos as the early hippies were on
their wealthy middle-class parents and their Protestant work ethic.

All that nice code won't run unless Intel and AMD, neither of whom is
particularly noted for being soft and cuddly, continue to make the
processors and Dell and Sony continue to squeeze component suppliers and
ship the systems.

In 1999 Richard Stallman the originator of free software, wrote that he
saw 'no social imperative for free hardware designs like the imperative
for free software', so the situation clearly does not bother him.

Yet, as often happens when the US tries to impose a particular point of
view on the world, the results can be the opposite of what was intended.

Just as the continued boycott of Cuba after the Soviet Union collapsed
forced Castro into alliances with other Latin American countries and has
helped promote new left-leaning governments across the continent, so the
desire to spread US liberal values through free software may have
unexpected consequences.

Cultural shift

Stallman, Linus Torvalds and Eric Raymond, the three big thinkers behind
free/libre/open source software - and one should always be suspicious of
any movement that so fails to reconcile its divisions that it needs
three names - may have unleashed a monster that will consume them.

Because until now the developed world could take the code provided so
generously by Western developers but their ability to modify it was
limited. There were too few skilled programmers and too few companies
interested in supporting that sort of work.

Now the programmers are out there. And while the Indian Linux community
is currently fragmented, as Raj says, this could change very quickly.
Much of the work on internationalisation, pushed by people like Gora
Mohanty at Srijan Technologies, is complete, and new ideas are emerging.

I visited one company, Om Logistics, who simply cannot pay what
Microsoft want to charge for licences when one of their bureaux might
make a few thousand rupees profit in a month.

They use Linux on both servers and desktops, and the result is that they
have an affordable and reliable system. Soon it wlll be even more suited
to their needs, because Indian developers will be deciding how it should
develop.

These programmers will take today's Linux code and make it far more
useful to the people of India and other developing countries than
today's predominantly Western developer community ever could. And when
that happens, the centre of free software development will soon begin to
move from the US and Europe.

Free software provides a bridge between the affluence of the West and
the poverty of most of the world's population, and amounts to a massive
flow of intellectual capital into the developing world. And as they
reshape it to meet their needs it will stop being just another US import
and become a resource that can be used in brand new ways.

Once the people on the receiving end make it their own they will change
the world. The fun is just beginning.
Bill Thompson is a regular commentator on the BBC World Service
programme Digital Planet







Yahoo! Groups Links

Pankaj,

You can post genuine referal posts regarding openings in your organizations to
this group on the following conditions:
1. It should be related to OSS / Linux
2. You do attach an appropriate tag before the subject line for instance [OT:
Job opening]

Cheers,
-Tarun

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pankaj mathur" <pankajtam@...>
> To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
> Subject: Fwd: [SunnyLUG] Openings Posting!!!Admin Can u reply to this.......
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 05:58:01 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
>
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>
> From: pankajtam <pankajtam@...>
> To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
> Subject: [SunnyLUG] Openings Posting
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:09:02 -0000
>
>
> Gents,
>        I am working with S1 services(I) pvt ltd. as System Analyst. At
> times we have multiple openings in our organizations for various
> capacities. Is this okay to post the referral mail posting on this
> grou? I am asking it upfront if it is going to assist people associated
> with this group in finding jobs. The postings will not be that
> frequent... but if it is really going to help ppl looking for
> opportunities..... then let me know....
>
> Regards,
> Pankaj Mathur
> System Analyst
> S1 Services Pvt. Ltd., Pune.
> Tel: +91 020 6609 1460
> URL: http://www.s1.com

>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)
Scientist C                          /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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Hello All!

Does any body know of usenet news servers in India. I am having
problems with using google as my front end to news groups. Its
basically broken.

Free news servers or paid one, anything will work for me.
I need an indian because most news servers are outside india and
their payment options are not very flexible.

Any related pointers will work.

Thanks in advance.

Warm regards
--Himanshu


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  MCA (Final Year)
  I.G. National Open University
  Jaipur (India)

  Web: http://members.lycos.co.uk/hschauhan
  Email: hs.chauhan@...

  "Education is what remains after one
   has forgotten everything he learned
   in school." -- A. Einstein.
----------------------------------------

Dear all,

Read this:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/217538_msftstudy25.html

"Two researchers surprised the audience at a computer-security
convention last
   month with their finding that a version of Microsoft Windows was more
secure
   than a competing Linux operating system."

"This week, the researchers released their finished report, and it
included another
   surprise: Microsoft was funding the project all along."

Linux devices has rebuted. See here:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8346661629.html


They think they can fool developers!!! 8-)

Warm regards
--Himanshu

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  Himanshu Chauhan
  MCA (Final Year)
  I.G. National Open University
  Jaipur (India)

  Web: http://members.lycos.co.uk/hschauhan
  Email: hs.chauhan@...

  "Education is what remains after one
   has forgotten everything he learned
   in school." -- A. Einstein.
----------------------------------------

Gents,
       I am working with S1 services(I) pvt ltd. as System Analyst. At
times we have multiple openings in our organizations for various
capacities. Is this okay to post the referral mail posting on this
grou? I am asking it upfront if it is going to assist people associated
with this group in finding jobs. The postings will not be that
frequent... but if it is really going to help ppl looking for
opportunities..... then let me know....

Regards,
Pankaj Mathur
System Analyst
S1 Services Pvt. Ltd., Pune.
Tel: +91 020 6609 1460
URL: http://www.s1.com

Great Himanshu,

Its a great idea. People at our institute have tried octave and they were asking
me earlier about where to look for some help. Now I can show them a way. Wish
your all the best. I have posted my comment at Google. Let us all know when the
voting begins.

BTW, do you know about a good GNU statistic package with X-window front end. I
have tried compiling 'STATISTIX' for linux but there had been a lot of problems.
I have finally got the R-package on my system, but it is way too heavy. I need
something simple yet good enough for carrying out very basic statistics for my
research needs. Any ideas. Anyone please?

Bye
-Tarun
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Himanshu Singh Chauhan" <hs.chauhan@...>
> To: "Suncity Jodhpur LUG" <SunCityJodhpurLUG@...>
> Subject: [SunnyLUG] [OT - ish] Supporting GNU Octave -- Free Numerical
Computing Package
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:00:45 +0530
>
>
> Dear Fellow Members,
>
> If you are from scientific background, you might have heard the name of
> MATLAB(R) from
> Mathworks, Inc. Its a very good software for all types of computation,
> system designs etc.
>
> There is another software called GNU Octave, which is free and is
> compatible with MATLAB.
> I used MATLAB for the first time in December 2005. But then its closed
> source and isn't freely
> available. I started searching for its alternative in linux world. And I
> landed upon GNU Octave
> homepage. I compiled and installed Octave. I was trilled by its
> capabilities.
>
> Though GNU Octave is still not as powerful as MATLAB but has all the
> potentials for the same.
> With an intention of helping it improve, I created a google group
> "dsp-octave" for it. I also posted
> a joining request at comp.dsp newsgroup. Members there, were in favor of
> discussing Octave only
> when it has a newsgroup. To get support of knowlegeable people there, I
> sent an RFD (Request
> For Discussion) to the "Big-8 Group". Fortunately, they sanctioned the
> RFD and its there at
> news.groups.
>
> A discussion for the same is going on new.groups.
> The Title is "RFD: comp.soft-sys.octave". The link to the group is
>
http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups/browse_frm/thread/f6bbca9b59259522/1d\
9bd40b366f5ea0?tvc=1#1d9bd40b366f5ea0
>
> GNU Octave is worth getting an attention. It comes free with our beloved
> Linux.
>
> Dear members, I would request you to join the discussion and say some
> favorable words as to why
> you liked the idea for separate group and why the new newsgroup should
> be created.
> This will strengthen the proposal.
>
> I seek you help in supporting a good free software.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> --Himanshu
>
> PS.: After the discussion, a voting round will be there. This round is
> most crucial. The chances that the
>          group will be created, depends on how much favorable votes the
> voting round get. I will inform
>          you when the voting starts. Voting *__IS__* very essential part
> of creation.
>
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> | Himanshu Chauhan                       |
> | MCA (Final Year)                       |
> | I.G. National Open University          |
> | Jaipur (India)                         |
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> | http://members.lycos.co.uk/hschauhan   |
> | Email: hs.chauhan@...            |
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>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

>



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Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)
Scientist C                          /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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Hi Tarun,

Thanks for your reply and instead of giving you the evidence of my
talk and having cross arguments, I think that my points have been
taken properly now and we can start thinking to grow our group.

I'm sorry once again for using harsh language..but anyways.

Now I've changed the subject of the post and request all members to
give their active participation for the same.

I have few of the ideas, which I'll share with all members soon, once
I'll formulate the same properly.


Saksham

Hi Saksham

Let's discuss. And hey it's not a battle-field, there is no war going on and
discussions are a part of any groups. Every one has the right to opinion.


> Thanks for giving time to reply to my email. But yes my email was
> totally based on the FACTS. You are right that "Lot of things are
> easier said than done." If I look in the past, myself has posted a message on
May 16 this year
> after Jan 14, 2005. Of course there MUST be some reason.

Yup, some FACTs again. And I also believe in policy of self analysis first and
that's what I do first and foremost.

> I posted my message this time, as I like to see our group growing, but
> I'm sorry to say that this has been taken personally.

Any hey, why only this time, and why not earlier. A plant grows better by more
often waterings. Let's all nurture our plant -our SunnyLUG that we have raised
togehter dear members. Growth is possible only then. One in a blue moon kind of
gestures don't do much anyways.

No I didn't take anything personally. The tone of my reply simply matched the
tone I was asked in. When something is stated in the interogatory manner, it
sets the tone right away. I quote a phrase of your first mail in this thread "1.
Whats member count". And than followed by a answer as well. Hey, wait a minute,
is that the correct way to put down the stats?


> Also, regarding the member count, I had given you the count of members
> joined in last one year..not the total and FYI and rememberance, the
> home page tell us the total members since beginning.

Dear, I know that. But your "1. Whats member count" PERIOD ! could only have
that reply.

> Anyways, I know few of the person who dont want to join the group. The
> metter is not that they are not interested in Linux or in Jodhour
> group..but now I think I shoud reveal one major problem. And that
> reason has come true by your reply. I must tell other group members that my
memory tells me that Tarun was > having a plan to have group website on its
second anniversary on
> Sourceforge. BUT AS I CREATED A LOGIN FOR SunnyLUG instead of
> moderators, WE ARE STILL NOT HAVING THE SAME.  Its not
> mandatory to have the site on the sourceforge but I've told everyone
> it just as an example.

Frankly I don't understand. Either you tell who the 'Some Linux Users of
Jodhpur' you are refering to. If they are already the members I never noticed
someone objecting over the Sourceforge issue. You did creat a Login for our
group at sourceforge, but if you go back, you will remember the reason why we
didn't choose to go for a website there. Let me elaborate once again:
#1. Sourceforge suites better for having projects posted. SunnuLUG is not a
project but a service, a information broadcaster, a forum to propagate views on
Linux in particular and OSS in general and to help anyone with a Linux related
issue through community support.
#2. You never discussed beforehand your plans to creat a login for SunnyLUG at
Sourceforge. What is the group for. Its open platform. Your created a login and
then informed. I appreciate your feelings and your taking the lead, but that is
not the very democratic way. What's the harm discussing first. We are not
running a wiki-LUG, there are a set of guidelined that every one sticks to. And
every one is free to discuss the plans first.

Also Saksham, if you can do a website for the group, no one will have any
objection at all. Believe me, no one. But can we all (the members) together
discuss, plan out and then decide a plan of action ! And  have full freedom
dear.

> My email communication
> in this regard was seen by many Linux users of Jodhpur and by the
> response they felt very bad and decided not to join the group.

I don't know which users of Jodhpur you are refering to who felt bad. If they
did, I would say they didn't know both sides of the story. And if I were you, I
would have brought the issue to light much earlier.

> I think, the group means WE not I.

Yes that's what it has always meant. And "WE" should do the efforts together.
"We" should discuss things togehter. "We" should reach a decision together. "We"
are a body. You and I and all make up this "We". Why on earth you ever felt
there was an I. A little reterospection sould clear out the "I" factor. In the
absence of contribution from other members, if a few of us are trying to keep
this group alive and kicking, that effort is unfortunately being taken and
perceived as falling in the "I" category. That's a very sad way of thinking, I
should say. It's indeed very unfortunate.

Dear Members, if your are listening, please feel free to let us know what you
feel on this issue.

>
> I NEVER WANTED TO HAVE THIS GROUP A FIELD OF BATTLE BUT THE REPLY OF
> TARUN HAS MADE IT LIKE THIS.

Battle? I still don't see it. Battle is too heavy a word to use here. Hey
Saksham, I don't know where things are going wrong? Because I personally don't
see anything really going wrong anywhere. You are right in pointing out that the
group may not have grown with a faster rate. And in the process, I have made
some Linux members unhappy and made them feel bad. But my intentions were very
clean and transparent. I believe in straight talk. And I don't think I have done
someting wrong by being direct. Anyways, let's not make this a personal platform
of discussing such petty issues.


> SORRY TARUN, I and other group members are with you to grow the group,
> but of course all members want to work as a team.

Yes it's a team. But have I stopped the members from working as a team. IF only
a handful people are contributing, that still is a team. Team spirit means,
working on a plan together. I have always professed for that philosophy. Show me
a single exception. IF there was a singular decision, it was creation of a
account with Sourceforge and then informing the members. Was that a team effort?
On the contrary such are the things which bring out the distinction between "I"
and "We". Moreover, your statement above make me feel that you are in discussion
with all members so please forward the mails to the group. And I never stopped
any team effort. Well how can I possibly do that. Or for that reason how can
anyone possibly do that. The very thought is very amusing and bizzare. Well "I"
am not SunnyLUG. And how can "I" stop anyone in this democracy. "We" are
SunnyLUG and let the mailing list be a place for every one to raise the issues.
No one here represents anyone. Let every one speak for themselves and not for
others behalf. We all are members and there is no hierarchy here. Every opinion
is respected equally. By being the moderator, no one is claiming to be 'in
charge'. Moderators are just the workers trying to make things run smoothly.


> I know, my this email is quite harsh, but I had to do that for OUR
> GROUP's benefit.
> Saksham


Thanks for the mail coz it did help me understand a lot. And thanks for taking
care of "OUR GROUPS" benefit. It would have been so much more better had you
shared your grievance much earlier.

I invite suggestions from all the members on the issues raised by Saksham.
Lets work together to find a way out to make things run smoother.

Cheers,
-Tarun









>
>
>
>
> --- In SunCityJodhpurLUG@..., tarunkant@l... wrote:
> >
> > Hi Saksham|Shailesh,
> >
> > Thanks for your mail and wishes for the long life of our beloved LUG.
> >
> > Regarding the points you have raised this is what I would like to say:
> >
> > 1. The number of members is always reflected on the SunnyLUG Y! page
> itself. You've gotta visit the page once in a while to know the
> membership strength. Here is the link:
> > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCityJodhpurLUG/
> > Current membership strength is 130
> >
> > 2. Our LUG is listed at- Linux Users Groups Worldwide
> (http://lugww.counter.li.org/index.cms) and Linux For You's LUG Corner
> (http://www.linuxforu.com). Not just that every issue of the 'Linux
> For You' magazine also lists our LUG. Moreover the  from
> time to time contact people in and around the city as well as out side
> also to join the group. It is also the responsibility of every member
> to promote the group and invite members.
> >
> > 3. As for the reasons as to why some people do not want join a group
> is something very complicated. I have not come acros a single person
> not willing to join because of a problem associated with our LUG.
> >
> > I have always been seeking active participation from both local and
> outside members. But that is not so easy. And frankly my busy schedule
> also poses limitations at my end. Within our limited resources and
> time all the concerned are doing there best to promote this group.
> >
> > Lot of things are easier said than done.
> >
> > -Tarun
> >
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Saksham <saksham2000@y...>
> > > To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
> > > Subject: [SunnyLUG] Belated Happy Birth Day
> > > Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:48:35 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > Hi F'ends,
> > > > I wish SunnyLUG a long journey ahead. On the time, when the
> > group > has been 3 yrs. old, I feel few of the points MUST be
> > thought about.
> > > > 1. Whats member count. I know, there are many Linux users/
> > admin > from Jodhpur but seems either they are not aware about
> > the group or > dont wanna be member of it.
> > > > 2. If they are not aware, then we can spread it by our own
> > friend > circle BUT, if they dont want to be member of then...we
> > have to > think about the reasons.
> > > > > I feel, I'm also responsible for this like other members
> > who are > not active on the group.
> > > > Only 14 new members have been added in the group in last
> > year. We > have transmitted 230 messages.
> > > > Can our members suggest how we can make this group more useful.
> > > > Requesting everyone to think positive.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Belated wishes to the group once again.
> > > > (Saksham|Shailesh) Mathur
> > > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously
> low rates.
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)    Scientist C
> >                /\\    Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
> > Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
> > Arid Forest Research Institute
> > New Pali Road
> > Jodhpur 342005 India
> > Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
> > Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
> > I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
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Scientist C                          /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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Hi Tarun,
Thanks for giving time to reply to my email. But yes my email was
totally based on the FACTS. You are right that "Lot of things are
easier said than done."
If I look in the past, myself has posted a message on May 16 this year
after Jan 14, 2005. Of course there MUST be some reason.

I posted my message this time, as I like to see our group growing, but
I'm sorry to say that this has been taken personally.

Anyways, I know few of the person who dont want to join the group. The
metter is not that they are not interested in Linux or in Jodhour
group..but now I think I shoud reveal one major problem. And that
reason has come true by your reply.
I must tell other group members that my memory tells me that Tarun was
having a plan to have group website on its second anniversary on
Sourceforge. BUT AS I CREATED A LOGIN FOR SunnyLUG instead of
moderators, WE ARE STILL NOT HAVING THE SAME. My email communication
in this regard was seen by many Linux users of Jodhpur and by the
response they felt very bad and decided not to join the group. Its not
mandatory to have the site on the sourceforge but I've told everyone
it just as an example.

I think, the group means WE not I.
I NEVER WANTED TO HAVE THIS GROUP A FIELD OF BATTLE BUT THE REPLY OF
TARUN HAS MADE IT LIKE THIS.
SORRY TARUN, I and other group members are with you to grow the group,
but of course all members want to work as a team.
I know, my this email is quite harsh, but I had to do that for OUR
GROUP's benefit.
Saksham

-- +----------------------------------------+
| Himanshu Chauhan |
| MCA (Final Year) |
| I.G. National Open University |
| Jaipur (India) |
| |
| http://members.lycos.co.uk/hschauhan |
| Email: hs.chauhan@... |
+----------------------------------------+

Dear Fellow Members,

If you are from scientific background, you might have heard the name of
MATLAB(R) from
Mathworks, Inc. Its a very good software for all types of computation,
system designs etc.

There is another software called GNU Octave, which is free and is
compatible with MATLAB.
I used MATLAB for the first time in December 2005. But then its closed
source and isn't freely
available. I started searching for its alternative in linux world. And I
landed upon GNU Octave
homepage. I compiled and installed Octave. I was trilled by its
capabilities.

Though GNU Octave is still not as powerful as MATLAB but has all the
potentials for the same.
With an intention of helping it improve, I created a google group
"dsp-octave" for it. I also posted
a joining request at comp.dsp newsgroup. Members there, were in favor of
discussing Octave only
when it has a newsgroup. To get support of knowlegeable people there, I
sent an RFD (Request
For Discussion) to the "Big-8 Group". Fortunately, they sanctioned the
RFD and its there at
news.groups.

A discussion for the same is going on new.groups.
The Title is "RFD: comp.soft-sys.octave". The link to the group is
http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups/browse_frm/thread/f6bbca9b59259522/1d\
9bd40b366f5ea0?tvc=1#1d9bd40b366f5ea0

GNU Octave is worth getting an attention. It comes free with our beloved
Linux.

Dear members, I would request you to join the discussion and say some
favorable words as to why
you liked the idea for separate group and why the new newsgroup should
be created.
This will strengthen the proposal.

I seek you help in supporting a good free software.

Warm Regards,

--Himanshu

PS.: After the discussion, a voting round will be there. This round is
most crucial. The chances that the
         group will be created, depends on how much favorable votes the
voting round get. I will inform
         you when the voting starts. Voting *__IS__* very essential part
of creation.

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+----------------------------------------+
| Himanshu Chauhan                       |
| MCA (Final Year)                       |
| I.G. National Open University          |
| Jaipur (India)                         |
|                                        |
| http://members.lycos.co.uk/hschauhan   |
| Email: hs.chauhan@...            |
+----------------------------------------+

Hi Tarun,

Thanks for giving time to reply to my email. But yes my email was
totally based on the FACTS. You are right that "Lot of things are
easier said than done."

If I look in the past, myself has posted a message on May 16 this year
after Jan 14, 2005. Of course there MUST be some reason.

I posted my message this time, as I like to see our group growing, but
I'm sorry to say that this has been taken personally.

Also, regarding the member count, I had given you the count of members
joined in last one year..not the total and FYI and rememberance, the
home page tell us the total members since beginning.

Anyways, I know few of the person who dont want to join the group. The
metter is not that they are not interested in Linux or in Jodhour
group..but now I think I shoud reveal one major problem. And that
reason has come true by your reply.

I must tell other group members that my memory tells me that Tarun was
having a plan to have group website on its second anniversary on
Sourceforge. BUT AS I CREATED A LOGIN FOR SunnyLUG instead of
moderators, WE ARE STILL NOT HAVING THE SAME. My email communication
in this regard was seen by many Linux users of Jodhpur and by the
response they felt very bad and decided not to join the group. Its not
mandatory to have the site on the sourceforge but I've told everyone
it just as an example.

I think, the group means WE not I.

I NEVER WANTED TO HAVE THIS GROUP A FIELD OF BATTLE BUT THE REPLY OF
TARUN HAS MADE IT LIKE THIS.

SORRY TARUN, I and other group members are with you to grow the group,
but of course all members want to work as a team.

I know, my this email is quite harsh, but I had to do that for OUR
GROUP's benefit.

Saksham




--- In SunCityJodhpurLUG@..., tarunkant@l... wrote:
>
> Hi Saksham|Shailesh,
>
> Thanks for your mail and wishes for the long life of our beloved LUG.
>
> Regarding the points you have raised this is what I would like to say:
>
> 1. The number of members is always reflected on the SunnyLUG Y! page
itself. You've gotta visit the page once in a while to know the
membership strength. Here is the link:
> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCityJodhpurLUG/
> Current membership strength is 130
>
> 2. Our LUG is listed at- Linux Users Groups Worldwide
(http://lugww.counter.li.org/index.cms) and Linux For You's LUG Corner
(http://www.linuxforu.com). Not just that every issue of the 'Linux
For You' magazine also lists our LUG. Moreover the moderators from
time to time contact people in and around the city as well as out side
also to join the group. It is also the responsibility of every member
to promote the group and invite members.
>
> 3. As for the reasons as to why some people do not want join a group
is something very complicated. I have not come acros a single person
not willing to join because of a problem associated with our LUG.
>
> I have always been seeking active participation from both local and
outside members. But that is not so easy. And frankly my busy schedule
also poses limitations at my end. Within our limited resources and
time all the concerned are doing there best to promote this group.
>
> Lot of things are easier said than done.
>
> -Tarun
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Saksham <saksham2000@y...>
> > To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
> > Subject: [SunnyLUG] Belated Happy Birth Day
> > Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:48:35 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> > Hi F'ends,
> >
> > I wish SunnyLUG a long journey ahead. On the time, when the group
> > has been 3 yrs. old, I feel few of the points MUST be thought about.
> >
> > 1. Whats member count. I know, there are many Linux users/ admin
> > from Jodhpur but seems either they are not aware about the group or
> > dont wanna be member of it.
> >
> > 2. If they are not aware, then we can spread it by our own friend
> > circle BUT, if they dont want to be member of then...we have to
> > think about the reasons.
> >
> >
> > I feel, I'm also responsible for this like other members who are
> > not active on the group.
> >
> > Only 14 new members have been added in the group in last year. We
> > have transmitted 230 messages.
> >
> > Can our members suggest how we can make this group more useful.
> >
> > Requesting everyone to think positive.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Belated wishes to the group once again.
> >
> > (Saksham|Shailesh) Mathur
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously
low rates.
>
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)
> Scientist C                          /\\
> Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
> Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
> Arid Forest Research Institute
> New Pali Road
> Jodhpur 342005 India
> Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
> Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
> I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
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friends to join me:

http://friends.earthscreen.com/?r=QVE0V1gFdxRWAm4BDiQE&i=gmail&ml=SunCityJodhpur\
LUG@yahoogroups.co.in&p=2&z=1&tc=11

Hi Saksham|Shailesh,

Thanks for your mail and wishes for the long life of our beloved LUG.

Regarding the points you have raised this is what I would like to say:

1. The number of members is always reflected on the SunnyLUG Y! page itself.
You've gotta visit the page once in a while to know the membership strength.
Here is the link:
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCityJodhpurLUG/
Current membership strength is 130

2. Our LUG is listed at- Linux Users Groups Worldwide
(http://lugww.counter.li.org/index.cms) and Linux For You's LUG Corner
(http://www.linuxforu.com). Not just that every issue of the 'Linux For You'
magazine also lists our LUG. Moreover the moderators from time to time contact
people in and around the city as well as out side also to join the group. It is
also the responsibility of every member to promote the group and invite members.

3. As for the reasons as to why some people do not want join a group is
something very complicated. I have not come acros a single person not willing to
join because of a problem associated with our LUG.

I have always been seeking active participation from both local and outside
members. But that is not so easy. And frankly my busy schedule also poses
limitations at my end. Within our limited resources and time all the concerned
are doing there best to promote this group.

Lot of things are easier said than done.

-Tarun



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Saksham <saksham2000@...>
> To: SunCityJodhpurLUG@...
> Subject: [SunnyLUG] Belated Happy Birth Day
> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:48:35 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
> Hi F'ends,
>
> I wish SunnyLUG a long journey ahead. On the time, when the group
> has been 3 yrs. old, I feel few of the points MUST be thought about.
>
> 1. Whats member count. I know, there are many Linux users/ admin
> from Jodhpur but seems either they are not aware about the group or
> dont wanna be member of it.
>
> 2. If they are not aware, then we can spread it by our own friend
> circle BUT, if they dont want to be member of then...we have to
> think about the reasons.
>
>
> I feel, I'm also responsible for this like other members who are
> not active on the group.
>
> Only 14 new members have been added in the group in last year. We
> have transmitted 230 messages.
>
> Can our members suggest how we can make this group more useful.
>
> Requesting everyone to think positive.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Belated wishes to the group once again.
>
> (Saksham|Shailesh) Mathur
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D.             -o)
Scientist C                          /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Happy birthday SunnyLUG.
Congratulations all the members. It's the enthusuiasm, support and good-will of all the members that has helped us all where we are today -three years old together supporting the freedom movement....hey hey hey....looks like I am in a 'rang de basanti' tone.

Have been travelling yesterday whole day so my wishes come only belated.

And hey Vivek, I would love to meet you. But will be again travelling next weekend. I hope other local members can finalize a meeting point. I can give you the contact info of some other local members if you wish.

One again, long live SunnyLUG, and may Linux always rock.

Cheers,

-Tarun

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tarun Kant, M.Sc., Ph.D. -o)
Scientist C /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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Congratulations. Btw any chances of members of
sunnylug meeting during last sunday of this month. I
am going to be in jodhpur at that time.

regards
VK

--- Himanshu Singh Chauhan <hs.chauhan@...>
wrote:

>
> Happy Birthday to SunnyLUG!!
>
> We as a group turn 3 today!
>
> I congratulate every member here. I believe we will
> always move ahead
> in this great work.
>
> Happy birthday once again!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Himanshu
>
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>


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Happy Birthday to SunnyLUG!!

We as a group turn 3 today!

I congratulate every member here. I believe we will always move ahead
in this great work.

Happy birthday once again!!

Cheers,

Himanshu

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Hi!

Below is a real cool link from redhat about opensource. It contains some
ogg videos and whitepapers, that I am sure everybody will enjoy.

http://www.redhat.com/truthhappens/

regards
--Himanshu

Dear Readers,

May 2006 issue of LINUX for You is about to hit the stands across the
country and what makes this issue worth a special mention is the fact
that it has Fedora Core 5 DVD bundled with it. The latest avtar of the
most popular distro in India, FC5 offers a cool, vibrant interface and
runs at blistering speeds. Just try this DVD to believe the words.

The COMMUNITY FOLKS will love the feature on China's keenness to
embrace open standards and open source software. Read on the article
CHINA WAVES THE LINUX FLAG to know more. For those keen to know more
about the history of Linux & Open Source, we have started a new
feature called 'Down Memory Lane' in which we will take our readers
through the various phases of development of key projects that
virtually wrote open source history. In this issue, we talk about
Apache Web Server.

For TECHIES, the highlight is the article on building your own SOHO
PBX system with Asterisk. The feature deals with a detailed guide on
configuring and setting up a powerful home/office PBX system. Also, we
present 10 awesome tools that are a must have for every PHP developer.

For Techies
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*  PHP Developer's Arsenal- 10 Awesome Tools
*  Top 10 Tips to Get Started with PHP
*  Backing Up and Restoring Files on Debian

For Newbies
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*  Pimping the Fox
*  Beagle Your Desktop
*  Replacing FrameMaker with OpenOffice.org Writer

For Decision Makers
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* TuxHeroes: (1) Holiday Marketing International (HMI); (2) Banas Dairy

The LFY CDs
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Fedora Core 5 DVD - Lay your hands on the all new Fedora Core 5.

LFY CD #2 - A collection of software, games and updates.
    * Developers: GNU Octave, gazpacho, bazaar, Objective Caml
    * Newbies: Kasablance, Amaya, Wallpaper, Themes
    * Power User: Apache Tomcat, Zope, JBoss, Resin
    * Games: Battle for Wesnoth, Barrage, X-pired, Tile World, Egg
Chess, Powermanga
    * Updates: FEDORA CORE 5, Linux Kernel

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TUX Desktop Watch -- April 25
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    Feature Links

     Getting the Job Done:
     http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000193 -- Linux, especially its
     desktop offerings, seem to be a great match for small business owners,
     for whom efficiency and cost are major concerns. But this target
     market doesn't seem to be making the switch. In his preview of the
     upcoming May issue, TUX Editor in Chief Kevin Shockey discusses the
     reasons why they should take another look at Linux.

     Style Is Everything, Right?:
     http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000192 -- If you are manual
     formatting the documents you create in OOo--you know, changing heading
     and fonts and so on every paragraph or so--it's time you realized your
     word processor isn't a typewriter. Let Bruce Byfield explain what
     styles are and how they can make document creation a whole lot easier.

    From Our Sister Publication

     Linux Journal -- Play Ball: Introducing Fungoes:
     http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8986
     Life-long baseball fan and computer hacker Mat Kovach finally decided
     to combine his two loves and create a Web site for baseball statistics
     and analysis. "The Fungoes project offers many interesting challenges
     for me. Many statistics will need to be sorted and calculated. The
     range for sorting, the number of columns and the filtering
     possibilities will test my humble programming and database skills. In
     addition, because players can switch teams during the year, finding a
     way in which to display their data in an informative and easy-to-view
     manner increases the challenge."

                             May Issue Coming Soon

     The May 2006 issue of TUX arrives next week. It's our first Small
     Office/Home Office issue, featuring articles about applications and
     software that will benefit SOHO users. Read about MyBooks, a
     QuickBooks alternative; Scribus, a desktop-publishing program; FSpot,
     a photo management tool; and OpenWengo, a VoIP service. The SOHO issue
     will be available on May 1. If you're not already receiving TUX,
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     https://www.ssc.com/tx/subs/DigitalSub.php to download the new issue
     as well as past issues.

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