I want to know something on telnet server.
  There is a remote machine with telnet client.
  An embedded system running linux with telnet enabled
executes a boot script.
  In this it waits for some time for a telnet
  connection
  from a remote telnet client on the network. Is there
  some way to notify the remote machine that it is
  waiting for a connection.

  I have another question. Is it possible to update
  the
  flash while the linux os is running on the operating
  system.

  Sarvesh


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Hi!

Really nice analysis of the post! I like it. I think most of the
things are in place
already, except for a few.

Among these few are regular meetings and a kin to it --- the bulletin board.

As Tarun said, we have members all over. So local meetings are something that
could easily be worked out and I know when Tarun is back home, he will
definitely
put these things into place. And I am sure, gathering of most of the
members (if not all)
can be done on some special occasions like the day LUG was established. I know
I had a great time in Jodhpur back then. People are really nice.

This is something that Tarun can look after. What I am more concerned about is
the working of our bulletin board. That would indeed channelize our discussions.
Instead of stacks of messages, there could be something that has proper
channels. I dont know whats the status of the board but I will now try
to revive it.
Tarun, we have so many enthusiasts around. Lets put life in it!

Let me search for my earlier mails and figure out what can be done. I
know I have Tarun, Harpreet and other members to help in it.

Thanks and regards
--Himanshu

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First of all Thanks Frederick for such an amazing article "Recipe for a
Successful Linux User Group"
I think it is a complete cook-book :-)

Thanks Harpreet for the mail and your fine analysis of our group's activities
based on the the above mentioned article. I am really glad that you took time.
And frankly that's what is needed. Your observations are correct. Let me also do
some more analysis and address your concerns:

> > 3. You need a regular meeting location.
> > 4. You need a regular meeting time.
> > 5. You need to avoid meeting-time conflicts.
>
> Some time back i saw an old poll on the yahoo-group  regarding montly
> meeting of LUG. Had there been any meetings in the past and was it a
> regular feature?? Why were they discontinued?? Shouldn't we revive it??
> I agree many people here are busy people with office work n stuff ...but
> we all can find out some time ...maybe once a month or once in two
> months . I believe that would be great .

Meetings and networking across the group are very important. And that is one
thing we have yet to bring into a momentum. We have had some isolated meetings
of group members in the past but I won't call these proper organized meetings
except the 1st Anniversary party that we had organized last year. It was
attended by a good strength of members and we had a lot of discussions on so
many things (you can still see the pictures of that occassion on SunnyLUG
geocities site). Himanshu took time out from his busy schedule and travelled all
the way from Jaipur to attend. We had decided to have reglar meetings. I should
say it is rather me who could not get the physical meetings organized because I
am currently in England. And wil only return back in August. And I would be glad
if some one can take lead and organize the meetings till I return back. However,
I all other things (except the meetings part) have been moving smoothly.
Himanshu's help has been instrumental all through. The membership has crossed
the 125 mark, out of which 99 are active (these figures are based on membership
for mailing list). I am answering queries from people who want to join the group
as well as pursuing potential members on almost a daily basis. But a group means
a team and we need team spirit and a very active participation from at least
local members to get the meetings successful. Whe I am around we can use
facilities from AFRI, ad I shoule be able to get permission form our Director
and can organize meetings. So the problem of venue should solve. And I think
that will surely work out. The other thing that I would like to point out is
that we have a fairly huge membership of people from outside Jodhpur. It is very
good and makes SunnyLUG so enriched by expertise from all over. SunnyLUG though
is a LUG for Jodhpur but the philosophy here is to be a wide open group for
anyone interested from around the globe to be an integral part of it. We already
have members from not just different parts of India but around the world. And I
feel that surely is an asset. In todays world, geographical boundaries do not
pose a limitation, which is good.

>
> > 9. You need to get on the main lists of LUGs, and keep your entries
accurate.
> i'am not sure about that ..... are we there , moderators ?

Yes we are listed (and updated) at:
1. Linux Users Groups Worldwide (http://lugww.counter.li.org/index.cms)
2. Linux For You's LUG Corner (http://www.linuxforu.com)
3. dmoz.org
4. google directory listing


> > 10. You must have login access to maintain your Web pages, as needed.
> > 11. Design your Web page to be forgiving of deferred maintenance.
> > 12. Always include the day of the week, when you cite event
> > dates. Always check that day of the week, first, using gcal [2]
> > (or cal). gcal is your friend.
> > 13. Place time-sensitive and key information prominently near the
> > top of your main Web page.
> > 14. Include maps and directions to your events.
> > 15. Emphasise on your main page that your meeting will be free of
> > charge and open to the public (if it is).
> > 16. You'll want to include an RSVP "mailto" hyperlink, on some events.
> > 17. Use referral pages.
> > 18. Make sure every page has a revision date and maintainer link.
> > 19. Check all links, at intervals.
>
> we can take care of the website ..... I would love to volunteer if the
> moderators wish or need

Thanks for volunteering. You are always welcome to contribute. The
geocities.com/sunnylug site is going well, getting good traffic. And the website
is regularly updated as well. However, the plans to revamp and relaunch it are
in the offing. In fact a forum section has been initiated but have not been made
public yet as it needs more testing. Once that is taken care of, member
interaction will become much more organized and logical.

I appeal all the members to contribute and be active in discussions on the
mailing list and come out with suggestions. I see a very near future when we
will be holding regular meetings of at least local members.

-Tarun




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Scientist C                          /\\
Biotechnology Laboratory            _\_V
Forest Genetics & Tree Breeding Division
Arid Forest Research Institute
New Pali Road
Jodhpur 342005 India
Phone: +91-291-2722269 ext. 162
Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/bobkant/
I'm Registered Linux User # 284692
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Hi Himanshu,
That's sounds just superb. I congratulate on your efforts. I remember your
earlier XMMS pluggin concerns. And this I feel is the best way to crub the
commercial minded windoish behavior creeping slowly into the Linux arena,
spoiling the essence of OSI.

I have yet to try this soon. Just too tied up with my work. As soon as I get the
first opportunity, I want to give it a go.
All the best with this project of yours. Way to go man.

-Tarun


----- Original Message -----
From: "H. Chauhan" <hs.chauhan@...>
To: suncityjodhpurlug@...
Subject: [SunnyLUG] DSP -- echo !!!
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 23:29:52 +0530

>
> Hi all!
>
> Hmmm... Tarun I hadn't been around and couldn't just see what
> was happening. Anything major?
>
> Well, I had this thing in mind and had actually posted earlier
> regarding this. I had been busy with some really important
> projects at office and after my studies at home, I finally managed
> to spare sometime for it. I had earlier mentioned that I was around
> some site (mmm..I don't remember see! May be it was xmms.) and found
> that there was some cool audio effect. And what I found was, it was
> limited days version. I was shocked. So I thought why not give it a
> try and try to make some nice effects ourselves which should be
> free!(as in freedom).
>
> I can say I am out with very first and messy version of an echo effect.
> I have done this in 2 days and 1 hours each (i.e. 2 hours work) and
> it has not many features. It is not well organized even! But it works.
>
> One more thing... I will soon be out with other version which will be
> well organized and well thought of. This has to change fundamentally!
> But for now I am busy with FFT thing.
>
> Currently, it works fine on 16-bit quantized MONO wave files. Please try
> it out.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Waiting for your flames and comments ;-)
>
> regards
> --Himanshu
>
> hs.chauhan@...
>
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>
<< echo.tar.bz2 >>



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Recipe for a Successful Linux User Group
by Rick Moen
1. You need a Web page.

2. Your Web page needs a reasonable URL.

3. You need a regular meeting location.
4. You need a regular meeting time.
5. You need to avoid meeting-time conflicts.

6. You need to make sure that meetings happen as advertised, without fail.

7. You need a core of several Linux enthusiasts.

8. Your core volunteers need out-of-band methods of communication.

9. You need to get on the main lists of LUGs, and keep your entries accurate.

10. You must have login access to maintain your Web pages, as needed.
11. Design your Web page to be forgiving of deferred maintenance.
12. Always include the day of the week, when you cite event dates. Always check that day of the week, first, using gcal [2] (or cal). gcal is your friend.
13. Place time-sensitive and key information prominently near the top of your main Web page.
14. Include maps and directions to your events.
15. Emphasise on your main page that your meeting will be free of charge and open to the public (if it is).
16. You'll want to include an RSVP "mailto" hyperlink, on some events.
17. Use referral pages.
18. Make sure every page has a revision date and maintainer link.
19. Check all links, at intervals.

20. You may want to consider establishing a LUG mailing list.

21. You don't need to be in the Internet Service Provider business.

22. Don't go into any other business, either.
23. Walk the walk.

okiez

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SunCityJodhpurLUG
group.

   File        : /echo.tar.bz2
   Uploaded by : digitalsecure <hs.chauhan@...>
   Description : This is first in series of DSP effects that I intend to make.

You can access this file at the URL

http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/SunCityJodhpurLUG/files/echo.tar.bz2

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/in/groups/files

Regards,

digitalsecure <hs.chauhan@...>

Hi all!

Hmmm... Tarun I hadn't been around and couldn't just see what
was happening. Anything major?

Well, I had this thing in mind and had actually posted earlier
regarding this. I had been busy with some really important
projects at office and after my studies at home, I finally managed
to spare sometime for it. I had earlier mentioned that I was around
some site (mmm..I don't remember see! May be it was xmms.) and found
that there was some cool audio effect. And what I found was, it was
limited days version. I was shocked. So I thought why not give it a
try and try to make some nice effects ourselves which should be
free!(as in freedom).

I can say I am out with very first and messy version of an echo effect.
I have done this in 2 days and 1 hours each (i.e. 2 hours work) and
it has not many features. It is not well organized even! But it works.

One more thing... I will soon be out with other version which will be
well organized and well thought of. This has to change fundamentally!
But for now I am busy with FFT thing.

Currently, it works fine on 16-bit quantized MONO wave files. Please try
it out.

Thanks.

Waiting for your flames and comments ;-)

regards
--Himanshu

hs.chauhan@...

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Recipe for a Successful Linux User Group
by Rick Moen

See the full essay online ****** Really good. -FN

1. You need a Web page.
2. Your Web page needs a reasonable URL.
3. You need a regular meeting location.
4. You need a regular meeting time.
5. You need to avoid meeting-time conflicts.
6. You need to make sure that meetings happen as advertised, without fail.
7. You need a core of several Linux enthusiasts.
8. Your core volunteers need out-of-band methods of communication.
9. You need to get on the main lists of LUGs, and keep your entries
accurate.
      *  http://www.ssc.com/glue/
      * http://lugww.counter.li.org/
      * http://nlug.org/webring/
      * http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/LUG/
      * http://www.linux.org/groups/
      *
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/
      * http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Software/
Operating_Systems/Unix/Linux/User_Groups/

10. You must have login access to maintain your Web pages, as needed.
11. Design your Web page to be forgiving of deferred maintenance.
12. Always include the day of the week, when you cite event dates. Always
check that day of the week, first, using gcal [2]  (or cal). gcal is your
friend.
13. Place time-sensitive and key information prominently near the top of
your main Web page.
14. Include maps and directions to your events.
15. Emphasise on your main page that your meeting will be free of charge and
open to the public (if it is).
16. You'll want to include an RSVP "mailto" hyperlink, on some events.
17. Use referral pages.
18. Make sure every page has a revision date and maintainer link.
19. Check all links, at intervals.
20. You may want to consider establishing a LUG mailing list.
21. You don't need to be in the Internet Service Provider business.
22. Don't go into any other business, either.
23. Walk the walk.

LUG checklist.

The following checklist may be useful for your group, once established.

1. Web page:

a. Meetings:
[ ] Current meeting info? Is it prominent?
[ ] Day of the week? Beginning time? Ending time?
[ ] Double-checked day/date matches against a calendar?
(E.g., is the "Friday, March 28" you listed an error, because the 28th is a
Thursday?)
[ ] Location?
[ ] Map?
[ ] Directions (car, public transit)? Parking tips?
[ ] Information on the next several meetings?
[ ] RSVP mailto link on meetings where this is needed?
[ ] Note that meetings are free and open to the public (if they are)?
[ ] If there's a special fee, is it disclosed next to the event listing?
[ ] If location / time / date formula has changed recently, is this noted
prominently?
[ ] Have you checked for event conflicts with other nearby groups, or with
holidays?

b. General:
[ ] Includes event date-formulas (e.g., 4th Tuesdays)? Prominently?
[ ] Maintainer mailto link?
[ ] Last-revised date?

c. Periodically (maybe every quarter):
[ ] Checked all links on your site for dead links?
[ ] Checked your Web server's logs for pages requested but not found?
(You'll want to put a referral page at that URL.)
[ ] Read all your Web content attentively for outdated content?

2. Other, periodical:
[ ] Reviewed/updated all LUG lists that have entries concerning your group?
[ ] Reviewed all sites that link to yours? Advised their webmasters of
needed corrections?

Last revised: 2003-08-04

Having seen (and run) quite a few Linux user groups (LUGs), and observed
some thrive and others die, I can hazard some firm recommendations. If
you're thinking of starting a LUG, or are running one now, please ponder
these lessons, drawn from other LUGs' experience. In fact, please consider
reviewing this list from time to time, as a kind of checklist.

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Friends,

It seems that 2005 is going to be the year of the laptops. In 1998 when I bought
my first laptop (a Pentium 1 machine with 2 GB HDD) in the US and it costed me
$2250. And now the super-store giant Wal*Mart is offering laptops running Linux
for under $500. And If Nicholas Negroponte, founder of MIT’s Media Lab's wish
comes true, cheap wireless laptops for third world countries will soon be
available for around 100 dollars. In India to cheap laptops are already
available that boast Linus OS at just Rs 29,999. So lets wait and watch, for
prices surely are going to drop further, it seems.

Related sites:
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Also check: http://www.prleap.com/pr/4833/
and: http://www.prleap.com/pr_3250.html

Cheers
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hi
seems like you havn't read the book named "building embedded linux
systems" orelliy publication. That is a must to read for any embedded
system dev. person.
moreover answers to your questions follows:


On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:57:57 +0000 (GMT), sarvesh shetgaonkar
<sarveshshetgaonkar@...> wrote:
> sir,
>  I need help for the understanding the development process in embedded
> system . I want to know the exact steps taking place during the BOOTING
> process as well as to know:

this link may help :
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/From-PowerUp-To-Bash-Prompt-HOWTO.html

> 1. How to cross compile tool chain in host PC.

its all given in the above mentioned book.

> 2. where linux kernel image is find in file system

The image from which your kernel will boot is there in /boot
directory, with name starting something like this " vmlinuz"
(compressed image )and "systemmap" (map kernel needs to refer while
booting)

> 3. while booting, what is present in the flash and  what is there in the RAM

This is the case in any embedded device: Flash is a non-volatile
memory,whatever is writen there persists.Flash contains bootloader and
info of starting it. from your harddisk or from tftp server you
download the image to flash and from flash it is decompressed into RAM
bcoz ram is much faster and anything you modify doesn't persist so
sometimes this is needed.

> 4. what is download utility ,how it works ,specify name if any.

You make an executable by compiling and making a firmware.This is *.bin file.
Executable placement in flash memory or RAM is typically controlled by
the target's download utility. To support this capability you will
likely need to provide multiple linker command files, multiple
debugger scripts, and possibly multiple make or project files.


> hoping that i will get the solution from someone.
> sarvesh.


Hope i answered your questions.
regards
Aditya
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Hi,

Here is a good Linux Beginner's guide from PCstats:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1728

Cheers,
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The Open Source Software Institute (OSSI) [http://www.oss-institute.org/]
announced today the establishment of the OSSI Research Fellowship Program.

OSSI's Research Fellowship program recruits, sponsors and hosts academic and
professional researchers in order to promote advanced study, development and
promulgation of open source software programs, applications, policy and
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Hi!

Most of the boards that I work on are 1392 enabled devices and I am pretty much
aware of them. But the following link is another thing which might interest you.
It misses RJ45 but has rest all.. Check out.

http://www.uclinux.org/ucsimm/

Thanks and bye

Himanshu


On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:13:15 +0000 (GMT), sarvesh shetgaonkar
<sarveshshetgaonkar@...> wrote:
> sir.
>
>
>
>
> Have you tried out "Building Embedded Linux Systems" by Yaghmor?
>
> =no we had not tried that book
>
>
> If you could tell your plans in more details, may be I could help you.
>
>
> ="we are building an embedded based system which is use to monitor the
> processes occuring in the chemical plant.
>
> it is also possible with it to set the setting as well as monitor the
> process remotely(LAN) in the process of chemical mixing"
>
>
>
> How VB come into the scene, I cannot understand.
>
> =we are using VB as our front-end in order to set the setting as well as
> monitoring purpose for the user, remotely using a PC running windows(VB
> works only on windows)
>
> For serial programming you won't need anything more
>
> =we are using serial programming in order to configure the kit through
> RJ-45(using minicom) ,also it can be used when the network is down.
>
>
> =till now we had not got the development board
>
> =listed the following specification of the board:
>
> I/O (MINIMUM 15)
>
> 1 RJ-45
>
> 1 RS-232
>
> 2MB RAM
>
> 4MB FLASH
>
> 32-bit processor
>
> =can you suggest any board which satisfy such specification
>
>
>
>
> Thanx and regards
> --sarvesh
>
>
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Market research firm IDC says the use of server side Linux has grown by 70% in
India in recent years, while Windows has grown by only 30%. That's why tech
support firm SlashSupport is planning to offer support services for Linux
customers in India.
To know more read this:

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Pune Symbiosis' GNUnify draws big names

http://www.linux-india.org/index.pl?id=3496&isa=Newsitem&op=show

Brian Behlendorf of Apache will be taking part in the Pune GNUnify event,
organisers announced. So will some other big names, include MySQL founder David
Axmark. This year's event will focus on localisation projects, PHP5, Python,
MySQL and more. There's an awareness-building exercise for school students and
teachers on the first day of the event (Feb 13, 2005) followed by an
installfest and more.

Organisers announced today (February 7, 2005) that they were to have Apache
co-founder Brian Behlendorf taking part in the event.

(Apache HTTP Server is an open source HTTP web server for Unix platforms --
BSD, Linux, and UNIX systems -- and Microsoft Windows, and other platforms.
Apache features highly configurable error messages, DBMS-based authentication
databases, and content negotiation, it is also supported by several GUIs which
permit easier, more intuitive configuration of the server. See
http://gui.apache.org/ The Apache HTTP Server is developed and maintained by an
open community of developers under the auspices of the Apache Software
Foundation.)

In addition, they are to have Robert Adkins and Ms Alolita Sharma from
Technetra, California, Ms Danese Cooper from Sun MicroSystems, MySQL founder
David Axmark, and others join their event.

(MySQL is a multithreaded, multi-user, SQL (Structured Query Language)
relational database server or RDBMS. MySQL is available either under the GNU
General Public License or under other licenses when the GPL is inapplicable to
the intended use. Unlike projects such as Apache, MySQL is owned and sponsored
by a single for-profit firm, the Swedish company MySQL AB.)

This year's event will focus on localisation projects, PHP5, Python, MySQL The
Commercial FOSS Database, and more. Visit http://gunify.sicsr.ac.in for details
or contact gnunify@...

GNUnify is being organised by students of the Masters of Science in Computer
Applications -- MSc(CA) degree programme -- of the Symbiosis Institute of
Computer Studies and Research. SICSR was set up in 1985, and offers several
full-time and part-time courses.

Each year, they organise this Free/Open Source Software Event. GNUnify aims at
"contributing and encouraging the use of FOSS", said a release from the
organisers.

"Initiated in the year 2003, 'GNUnify' is a forum to unite open minds. The
event aims at spreading teh philosophy of GNU/Linux -- unifying and
strengthening the use of FLOSS," they said.

Student-organisers said they were successful over the past two years, and had
made this three-day event happen from February 13 to 15 this year.

Event schedule for this year is as follows:

Feb 13 Linux Eduvantage -- awareness for school students and teachers
Feb 14 Install fest, techie talks, workshops and tutorials
Feb 15 Seminars, panel discussion.

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Hi Sarvesh!

> we are doing our final year project on
> microcontroller
> (embedded linux)base dembedded system

Gr8! Have you tried out "Building Embedded Linux Systems" by Yaghmor?

> we are designing a system in order to monitor the
> work and configure the setting remotely of a system

If you could tell your plans in more details, may be I could help you.

> Is there any body who can help me on
> developing"EMBEDDED LINUX BASED SYSTEM "
> on
> 1.PORTING
> 2.socket programming through VB
> 3.serial programming

How VB come into the scene, I cannot understand. You are using windows
for development? For serial programming you won't need anything more
than the how-to listed at TLDP. BTW which Microcontroller?

Thanx and regards
--Himanshu


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+91-98284-92757
www.singingelectrons.com
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