dear All,
Pl. see the response by Mr. Tariq Aziz, who works for the Asian Rhino and
Elephant conservation programme at WWF-India.

best wishes
Archna Chatterjee
Coordinator (Wetland Habitats)
Freshwater and Wetlands Conservation Programme
WWF-India, 172-B, Lodi Estate
New Delhi-110003
Ph 91-11-51504813

"The face of the water, in time, became a wonderful book- a book that was a
dead language to the uneducated passenger, but which told its mind to me
without reserve, delivering its most cherished secrets as clearly as if it
uttered them with a voice.
And it was not a book to be read once and thrown aside, for it had a new
story to tell every day" - Mark Twain

----- Forwarded by Archana Chatterjee/wwfindia on 05/03/05 05:27 PM -----

Tariq Aziz
To: Archana
Chatterjee/wwfindia@wwfindia
05/03/05 04:53 PM cc:
Subject: RE: [andamanicobar]
Elephants(Document link: Archana
Chatterjee)




Elephant calves are often retrieved from the wild after poaching or other
events. Infact the Jaldapara sanctuary in north Bengal has many such
calves. Obviously the sight is pathetic. But there is very little one can
do specially in places where the HEC is very high and events like these are
commonplace. In the rescue centre there, at least they have not been left
to the elements. This must be a similar case in BR Hills that you saw.

Your statement that the calf "was captured" may well be wrong. Such animals
are retrieved. The forest Department sometimes takes the help of resort
(private) owners in providing for such rescued animals. There is at least
one case in Bandipur TR.

Elephants are extremely intelligent and social. Without going into any
details I want to make it clear that calves are looked after by the mother
as well as its aunts. And calves that loose their mothers often are
subsequently looked after by the herd. I have myself seen rescued calves
being adopted by domestic adult female elephants in Jaldapara. I am sure
there are other examples.

Sending elephants back to the wild is possible. But for some reasons this
is not attempted and these calves grow up into and as a property of the
forest department.

I will be most happy if Mr Sunil can make some effort to provide a better
"life style" (sic) to the poor calf. Or at least he can begin to find out
what it takes and then he can develop a clear understanding of the issues
linked with this ONE.

Tariq



Archana
Chatterjee To: Tariq
Aziz/wwfindia@wwfindia
cc:
03-05-05 14:13 Subject: RE: [andamanicobar]
Elephants





For your expert advice.
Archna Chatterjee
Coordinator (Wetland Habitats)
Freshwater and Wetlands Conservation Programme
WWF-India, 172-B, Lodi Estate
New Delhi-110003
Ph 91-11-51504813

"The face of the water, in time, became a wonderful book- a book that was a
dead language to the uneducated passenger, but which told its mind to me
without reserve, delivering its most cherished secrets as clearly as if it
uttered them with a voice.
And it was not a book to be read once and thrown aside, for it had a new
story to tell every day" - Mark Twain

----- Forwarded by Archana Chatterjee/wwfindia on 05/03/05 02:41 PM -----

"Menon, Sunil"
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Hi,
Just wanted to share something. I had been to BR hills the other day and on
the way, we happened to drop in at the office of Jungle Lodges. I noticed
an
infant elephant(6 months) tied down and left for entertainment for the
people who came to visit the place.. It was a disturbing sight to see the
baby elephant which was ofcourse not happy with all the attention it was
getting and the flash lights.

I talked to some people there and they said this elephant was captured
after
it lost its parents. But i wonder.. cant we provide it a better lifestyle.
cant it go back to the wild. I understand that elephants usually dont
accept
other elephants that are not part of its family. Can we have some expert
comments on this...

Regards
Sunil


-----Original Message-----
From: Venkateswar, Sita [mailto:S.Venkateswar@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:45 AM
To: andamanicobar@...
Subject: RE: [andamanicobar] Elephants


On the subject of elephants and their care, Thailand, yet again, seems
to be much further along then India is. There is an elephant hospital
that has been established to diagnose and treat elephants and their
various ailments, both the common ones that elephants have as well as
those that have come about as a result of elephants working in various
capacities. You can read more about it at this site.

http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/safari/elephant/expert/expert.ht
<http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/safari/elephant/expert/expert.ht>
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Sita Venkateswar
Senior Lecturer,
Social Anthropology Programme
Massey University
Private Bag 11-222
Palmerston North
Aotearoa/New Zealand

Ph:64-6-3505799 ext.2515
Fax:64-6-3505689

http://anthropology.massey.ac.nz/staff/Venkateswar
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