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Dear friends,

I'm writing to ask for your help and advice. Survival has launched a
campaign, targeted mainly but not exclusively at the UK so far, to
get the media to stop using terms like 'stone age' and 'primitive' to
describe tribal peoples. Please have a look at the campaign webpage
http://www.survival-international.org/stampitout.php for details of
our postcard campaign. There is also a page where people can post
comments:
http://www.survival-international.org/stampitoutuserforum.php

I want to ask for your help in getting this message across to the Indian media.

Terms like 'stone age' and 'primitive' are widely understood by
ordinary people to mean 'inferior' and 'backward', though they may
mean different things to academics. We believe such language causes
great harm to tribal peoples by reinforcing the idea that they are
'stuck in the past' and must be forcibly 'developed' for their own
good. For example, this is what the President of Botswana says about
the Kalahari Bushmen, whom his government has forced to leave their
ancestral land against their will:

'How can you have a Stone Age creature continue to exist in the age
of computers? If the Bushmen want to survive, they must change or
otherwise, like the dodo, they will perish.'

Survival is particularly struck by the prevalence of such terms - and
others, like 'savages' - whenever the international media reports on
the tribes of the Andaman Islands, most recently on the killing of
two men by the Sentinelese, but also following the December 2004
tsunami.

The campaign has the support of BBC World Affairs Editor John
Simpson, and journalists John Pilger, the BBC's Caroline Hawley,
George Monbiot, Sandy Gall and Christopher Booker. These journalists
wrote a letter which was published in the Financial Times a couple of
weeks ago. The issue has also been discussed in the Independent and
the Guardian newspapers in the UK.

I would be very grateful for any suggestions of high-profile Indian
journalists who could be approached to add their names to the
campaign. I would also like to hear any other suggestions as to how
this issue might be raised in the Indian media, or any comments on
the campaign. Please also let me know if you would like to receive
some of the campaign postcards.

Thanks and best wishes,
Miriam
--

We help tribal peoples defend their lives, protect their lands and
determine their own futures.

Survival International
6 Charterhouse Buildings
London EC1M 7ET
UK

Tel: (+44) (0)20 7687 8700
Fax: (+44) (0)20 7687 8701
www.survival-international.org



Thu Mar 2, 2006 11:00 am

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Dear friends, I'm writing to ask for your help and advice. Survival has launched a campaign, targeted mainly but not exclusively at the UK so far, to get the...
Miriam Ross
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Mar 2, 2006
2:43 pm

dear Miriam, to me it doesnt really matter much these are just the concepts (words)made by us the word stone age ..or whatever is not really the meaning ..but...
sanjay mukherjee
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Mar 6, 2006
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Dear Miriam, The initiaive definitely sounds noble and likewise the gestures being made by Survival, John Simpson or George Monbiot. However, am not sure how...
Sharbendu De
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Mar 7, 2006
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Dear Sanjay, The campaign to persuade journalists not to sue words like 'stone age' and 'primitive' is certainly less direct than Survival's other campaigns....
Miriam Ross
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Mar 7, 2006
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Dear Miriam , The words stone age and primitive refer to a particular economic system This is not denegrative when understood in context. The knowledge of...
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Mar 7, 2006
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If I recall right, the interaction started out with a member expressing the need to educate journalists on the usage of words like stone age and primitive. ...
Unnati Features
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Mar 11, 2006
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May I add on my two bit to this interesting discussion. The term which has been used in various publications is "Late - paleolithic" (which is infact late...
Amlan Dutta
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Mar 13, 2006
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I am ready for the brickbats! I beg to differ. When one communicates with the general public one has to simplify words. Given a choice in using 'paleolithic'...
Unnati Features
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Mar 14, 2006
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Are we discussing brickbats? Why? The term palaeolithic is not derogatory, neither is stone age. It would simply be wrong to describe any group in the Andaman...
kanchan mukhopadhyay
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Mar 14, 2006
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Terms and defintions are actually relative , and usage defined, shree has a point, she had to cater to the needs of the layman reader. The authors who I was ...
Amlan Dutta
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Mar 14, 2006
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I agree with Kanchan's idea of 'plastic age' people- they definitly are not in any of the lithic cultures as we would like to believe- they are contemporary to...
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Mar 15, 2006
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Amlan, I would like to know how you concluded that the Jarawas are 'definitely papaleolithic'? Kanchan Amlan Dutta <amlan77@...> wrote: Terms and...
kanchan mukhopadhyay
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Mar 15, 2006
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I belive the issue has merit. Primitive does have other connotations not just in English but also in academics. for a dictionary definition of primitive follow...
Shreyas
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Mar 14, 2006
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I think the point made by Kanchan is worth considering. What is it that would best describe the Jarawa to academia and the public ? right now there is an...
Viren
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Mar 15, 2006
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  the subject of this letter attracted my attention today. i am a student of History. it is true that debate continues over the nomenclature of different...
ranju sri ghosh
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Mar 16, 2006
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Ranjusri It is not about calling stone age 'stone age', it is about calling a contemporary people (in this case the Jarawas) 'stone age' or 'palaeolithic'...
kanchan mukhopadhyay
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Mar 17, 2006
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I find this rather difficult to comprehend. When we call a group of homo sapiens neolithic or paleolithic we ARE describing their status. Whether we like it...
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Mar 18, 2006
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Is'nt this stone age thing going on for a little too long- better get those text books out or do a trip on the ATR- better still ask Raja or Enmei if they ...
manish chandi
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Mar 19, 2006
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Sorry, I joined late but found interesting and informative discussion and sharing of knowledge. For me, I feel proud to affiliate myself with the primitive...
altaf hussain
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Mar 21, 2006
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Modern anthropology's rejection of "primitive" As a social anthropologist I've followed this debate with mounting exasperation. By classifying India's tribal...
Felix Padel
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Mar 21, 2006
5:33 pm

Probably I know why it is difficult to comprehend. Let me explain it a little bit. Forefathers of all human groups went through the palaeolithic level of...
kanchan mukhopadhyay
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Mar 21, 2006
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Hey guys, I'm surprised you have been discussing this for so long. You had been talking about bird flu as well, but not now - even though the dailies are full...
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Mar 19, 2006
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Why modern anthropology rejects these terms As a social anthropologist I have watched this debate with amazement. Yet it is an important debate in the sense...
Felix Padel
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Mar 21, 2006
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Dear Friends: I agree with what Felix has stated well! I would like to point out the politics of development and use of the term Primitive. If we consider the...
Vishvajit Pandya
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Mar 22, 2006
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  Dear Kanchan, first we shold think out a nomenclature which may aptly imply the environment the people in question are in as well as the main driving force...
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