total hogwash
--- Ravi Goel <ravigoel25@...> wrote:

> Whatever will happen will happen.
>
> I dont agree with this mentality of trying to save
> the purity of the race
> and tribal business.
>
> Why only the Jarwas or Onges, Wy not the Adivasis wo
> live in every state in
> the country; why not the basters, why not the tribes
> of the North East? Why
> not the other not even known tribal people of the
> mainland. Arent they
> important? Wasnt thier remaining tribals while the
> rest of us integrated
> with the mainstram?
>
> Who are you and the professors and the NGO's to
> decide whether they muct
> remain in isolatio or not? Arent sentinelese still
> hostile, meaning they
> refuse to integrate or tolerate any non tribal in
> thier area?
>
> If you really wish to save the Onges and Jarawas,
> there is only one way -
> completely remove all settlers that were settled by
> the britishers
> generations ago andbring them lock, stock and barrel
> to the mainland.
>
> Also please note that the Jarawas are coming to Port
> Blair, to our family
> trading house to demand fruits and eatables and they
> dont need the ATR to
> traverse.
>
> Remove everybody from Middle Andaman if you really
> wish to cease the
> guaranteed integration of the Jarwas with Indian
> main stream.
>
> All this hog wash about ATR is utter drivel and will
> not be able to even
> slow down the integration forgot about stopping it.
>
> All this disease nonsense is also hog wash; thier
> immune system are better
> than yours and mine.
>
> If the moderator allows this email to go thru and
> begin constructive
> discussion rather than they way you want it
> sanitised discussions, I will
> appreciate it.
>
> With due respect,
>
> Ravi Goel
>
>
> >
> >HindustanTimes.com » Print Editions » Lucknow »
> Live » Allahabad »
> >Story
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Modernity taking its toll on tribals
> >K Sandeep Kumar
> >Allahabad, November 28
> >
> > SUDDEN EXPOSURE to the modern world is causing
> great stress on the
> >tribal population of the Andaman and Nicobar
> Islands and making the
> >tribals vulnerable to contracting dangerous
> diseases that could even
> >result in the tribes becoming extinct.
> >
> >These are the findings of Prof Vijoy Shankar Sahay,
> Head of Allahabad
> >University (AU) Anthropology Department and a
> member of the special
> >committee of experts formed by the Union Ministry
> of Environment and
> >Forests to look into the 'Forest and Allied matters
> in Andaman and
> >Nicobar Islands'. The committee would submit its
> report to the
> >Ministry by December end.
> >
> >"I am convinced that unless immediate check and
> balances are placed
> >on the ground, we could end up loosing some of the
> oldest and purest
> >tribes of the world very soon," said Prof Sahay,
> who just returned
> >after a 15-day trip to Andaman and Nicobar Islands.
> >
> >Prof Sahay said that in Andaman and Nicobar islands
> there are two
> >distinct racial groups of primitive tribes:
> Negritoes in the Andamans
> >(Great Andamanese, Onges, Jarawas and Sentinelese)
> and Mongoloids in
> >the Nicobar (Nicobarese, Shompens).
> >
> >"The total population of these tribes is around
> 26,825, which
> >accounts for about 9 per cent of the total
> population of these
> >Islands.
> >
> >More than 98 per cent of the tribal population is
> constituted by
> >Nicobarese who are settled in the Car Nicobar
> Island.
> >
> >The population of other tribes is very small and is
> declining over
> >the past several decades," he said.
> >
> >Andaman and Nicobar Administration has
> rehabilitated Great Andamanese
> >numbering hardly 40 to 45 in Strait Island and
> Onges, around 98 to
> >100, in Dugong Creek and South Bay of Little
> Andaman Island.
> >
> >Shompens having a population of 175 live deep in
> the jungles of Great
> >Nicobar Island. Jarawas, numbering around 266, live
> in the jungles of
> >South and Middle Andaman were hostile till
> recently.
> >
> >During the last couple of years, they have shown a
> willingness to
> >come out of their isolated world and mingle with
> the mainstream
> >population. The 200-250 Sentinelese live in the
> North Sentinel Island
> >and are still unapproachable, he added.
> >
> >Prof Sahay said that all the tribes are in a state
> of transition from
> >their primitive life-styles to a more modern way of
> life.
> >
> >"The Nicobarese were the first to adjust to this.
> >
> >They have almost lost their tribal nature and are
> as modern as any of
> >the settler community.
> >
> >The Onges and Andamanese are changing slowly. They
> keep many aspects
> >of their tribal culture, at the same time have
> adopted many things
> >from the mainstream population.
> >
> >The Jarawas have just started coming out of their
> seclusion. The
> >Sentinelese have not yet shown any willingness to
> shed their hostile
> >attitude towards outsiders," Prof Sahay explained.
> >
> >The changes in their environment due to the rapid
> growth of the
> >settler population, the sharp decline in their
> population and the
> >transition from the primitive nature to the modern
> civilisation are
> >all causing great stress on them.
> >
> >"These have their health impact also. The health
> needs of the
> >primitive communities are unique.
> >
> >The most dangerous development is the opening of
> the Andaman Trunk
> >Road that has made tribes like Jaravas vulnerable
> to addiction of
> >tobacco products, becoming dependant on handouts
> from people,
> >vulnerable to venereal diseases as well as HIV and
> AIDS.
> >
> >Unless adequate checks and balances are introduced
> immediately, we
> >may end up losing these primitive tribes," he
> warned.
> >
> >Prof Sahay said that the committee formed by the
> Union Government
> >would hand over its report as well as its
> recommendations to the
> >Union Ministry of Environment and Forest by
> December
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