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Re: [andamanicobar] Tribal Sub-Plans, PTGs

On a specific point, one finds the phrase "Primitive
Tribes", taken to refer to certain "tribal" groups,
most offensive and smacking of a colonial mindset. I
am not here referring to the use of the phrase in this
egroup and this discussion but the general continuing
use of it in government and other language and
discourse. Surely in this day and age, we can develop
a different phrase for these underprivileged groups.

The phrase occurs several times in the Draft National
Policy on Tribals, which should also be considered by
this group. Some of us from the North East had
critiqued and opposed large sections of this draft as
unrepresentative, unjust, insensitive and downright
offensive.

Sanjoy Hazarika

Vishvajit Pandya <pandyav@...> wrote: > Dear
Friends:
> I know for sure that Nicobarese at large do not fall
> under the organization of AAJVS- only the "Primitive
> Tribes" . What is under AAJVS functioning in Nicobar
> is just the Shompens.
>
>
> Pankaj <pankaj@...> wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> There have been two very relevant and pertinent
> queries (Manju and Gopa) on
> the issue of the number of tribal individuals in the
> islands and the
> allocations of the money within the Tribal
> sub-plans.
>
> I am myself not particularly conversant with the
> details of this and would
> like to request someone who knows more to help out
> with understanding this.
>
> Are the figures of the money correct? Do the
> Nicobaris also get included
> under this category which is called 'primitive
> tribes? If not then the
> number of people we are talking about is only about
> 1000, and the
> calculations made by Gopa below end up being even
> more conservative that
> what the real picture will be.
>
> Can Samir, Vishvajit, Sita or anyone else more
> familiar with the structure
> and the functioning of the AAJVS and tribal sub
> plans in the islands help
> out with this?
> pankaj
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: GopaKumar <Gopakumar@...>
> To: <andamanicobar@...>
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [andamanicobar] Enhanced outlay for
> Tribal Sub-Plans
>
>
> > Pankaj,
> >
> > As you know I am new to this group and have two
> questions on this report:
> >
> > - Of the estimated tribal population of about
> 30,000, the numbers of
> members
> > in the 5 tribes listed in this news report are
> sub-1000. Which is the
> > dominant tribe?
> > - 365 crores for 'development' of 30,000 people
> doesn't quite sound right.
> > That works out to about Rs. 1.20 lakhs per
> individual over a five year
> > period - what possibly could this be spent for?
> >
> > Warm regards
> > Gopakumar
> > 080 - 2528 4011
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pankaj [mailto:pankaj@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 5:08 PM
> > To: andamanicobar@...
> > Subject: [andamanicobar] Enhanced outlay for
> Tribal Sub-Plans
> >
> > From
> > The Andaman Express
> > July 7, 2004
> >
> > Enhanced outlay for isles tribal sub-plan
> > Port Blair, July 06: An outlay of Rs. 365 crore
> has been earmarked for the
> > tribal development as Tribal Sub-Plan component
> for the 10th five year
> plan
> > in this island territory. The represents 14.68% of
> the UT outlay for the
> > 10th plan period, an official release said here.
> >
> > According to this, an amount of Rs. 60 crore has
> been utilised by various
> > departments under Tribal sub plan during the year
> 2003-2004. Under the
> > Tribal Sub Plan, funds are allotted based on the
> proportion of teh
> Scheduled
> > tribe population in this territory.
> > The A&N Administration through its 18 departments
> besides the Andaman Adim
> > Janjati vikas Samiti has been implementing various
> plan programmes for the
> > welfare and development of the schedule tribe
> population of 29, 249. They
> > constitute 8.27% of the total population of
> 3,56,152.
> > There islands with meandering creeks and evergreen
> forests are abode to
> many
> > primitive and aborigin tribes. As per the census
> of 2001, the Onge
> > population is 96, Jarawas 240, Shompens 398 and
> the Sentinelese, though
> > sighted only 39 from a distance is estimated to be
> 100 in numbers.
> >
> > AAJVS was started in 1976 as an autonomous
> organisation. It is fully
> funded
> > by the government. It is responsible for the
> protection of Primitive
> tribes
> > of a&N Islands. An amount of Rs. 60 lakhs has been
> spent by the AAJVS for
> > the various measures connected with the wellbeing
> of the five primitive
> > tribes during 2003-2004, the official
> communication said.
> > C/o Kalpavriksh
> > Apt. 5, Sri Dutta Krupa
> > 908 Deccan Gymkhana,
> > Pune 411004
> > Tel: 020 - 25654239 / 25675450
> > Fax: 25654239
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From The Andaman Express July 7, 2004 Enhanced outlay for isles tribal sub-plan Port Blair, July 06: An outlay of Rs. 365 crore has been earmarked for the ...
Pankaj
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Jul 15, 2004
5:35 am

14% of the total outlay to go towards welfare and development of 29, 249 individuals constituting 8.7% of the total population?? Does anyone have a breakup of...
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Jul 15, 2004
8:56 am

Pankaj, As you know I am new to this group and have two questions on this report: - Of the estimated tribal population of about 30,000, the numbers of members ...
GopaKumar
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Jul 15, 2004
9:33 pm

Dear Friends, There have been two very relevant and pertinent queries (Manju and Gopa) on the issue of the number of tribal individuals in the islands and the ...
Pankaj
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Jul 18, 2004
8:45 pm

Sometime back, someone calculated the total budget for ITDP in Attapadi, Kerala under Tribal Sub-Plan for certain paeriod and came out with the figure that...
C.R Bijoy
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Jul 19, 2004
6:23 am

Dear Friends: I know for sure that Nicobarese at large do not fall under the organization of AAJVS- only the "Primitive Tribes" . What is under AAJVS...
Vishvajit Pandya
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Jul 19, 2004
11:14 am

On a specific point, one finds the phrase "Primitive Tribes", taken to refer to certain "tribal" groups, most offensive and smacking of a colonial mindset. I ...
sanjoy hazarika
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Jul 21, 2004
9:48 am

The term 'Primitive Tribal Group' is an official category for which special schemes are designed and funding provided (many states have lists of the tribes...
msarin
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Jul 21, 2004
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Dear Friends: I agree with the sentiments, ideas, and reactions expressed about the term "Primitive tribes". It is a left over category from Victorian Western...
Vishvajit Pandya
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Jul 22, 2004
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we need a campaign. sh ... 'Primitive Tribal Group' is an official ... === message truncated === ...
sanjoy hazarika
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Jul 22, 2004
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Dear Sanjoy, I was referred to your article on the Draft National Policy for Tribals by my brother in Kolkata. Where can one get a copy of the policy and your...
Venkateswar, Sita
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Jul 22, 2004
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Pankaj <pankaj@...> wrote: Dear Friends, There have been two very relevant and pertinent queries (Manju and Gopa) on the issue of the number of...
kanchan mukhopadhyay
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