Isn't Jarawa tourism is illegal anyways technically? There are those warning
posters stating not to take pictures of Jarawa on buses going through that area.

I agree, there are no documentation about population of sentinels. I might not
be so sure about Shompens though.

No offence, but your analogy doesn't really work with the Jarawa situation,
Malini Shankar. Too much too soon is always bad. It takes any human being to
adjust to new situation, new environment, new kind of food, and what currently
is happening is Jarawas are bombarded with all the synthetic food and every
other thing. How can we say the new food won't be bad for their immune system?


Sure within the same island territory, we can see how Nicobaris coped with
"modern" civilisation and their population is in no danger, but you will also
have to take in account of how Nicobaris were indoctrinate to "modern" society,
it was a step by step process. When Church first came to Nicobar, they didn't
give them foreign food to eat, they let them continue with their culture and it
was one thing at a time.

Society has changed a lot over the past century, for me personally, I don't see
anything wrong with Jarawas living their jungle life. I don't differentiate
between who is civilised and who isn't. It is their life, it is what they have
been living for the longest possible time. They live as hunter, how many of us
can claim to go in the jungle and live for a month without any modern day
equipment to help us? But a Jarawa lad has been living like that, for him
extracting honey is cake walk.

My point is, let them choose what and how they wish to lead their life. We have
and we shouldn't' have any power to be decision makers of someone elses culture.




--- In andamanicobar@..., Rauf Ali <raufie05@...> wrote:
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> I don't think theres any evidence that the Sentinelese are declining. Nobody
knows their numbers in the first place,.The same, more or less, goes for the
Shompen. Nobody knew their numbers a few years ago, it was all guesswork. So the
current estimates ( some say 250, some say 370) don't indicate increase or
decrease.
> Manish, any wise words?
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> --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Malini Shankar <malini@...> wrote:
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> From: Malini Shankar <malini@...>
> Subject: Re: [andamanicobar] query for Barefoot
> To: andamanicobar@...
> Date: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009, 11:34 AM
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> The premise of non proximity or isolation of Jarawas presumably arises from a
concern to limit interaction with the big bad outside world and the Jarawas do
no have the immunity to fight disease outbreak, they do not have immunity
against diseases etc.
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> Going by that logic the Shompens and Sentinalese still do not have any contact
with the outside world. So logically they should be very healthy and disease
resistant. What then is the cause for their dwindling numbers? I am seeking
knowledge, I pray for some very well informed activists on this e group to
enlighten people like me who might want to know.
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> Historically it has been integration that is the secret of success anywhere in
the world... its a sociological phenomenon. When Parsis landed in India and
their leader sought refuge in Gujarat, apparently the then ruler of Baroach told
the leader of the Parsis his concern for the security of the womenfolk of the
refugees. Alluding to the exotic and beautiful looks of the refugee women, the
ruler apparently told the Parsi leader, only if you promise to get the refugees
to dress like the locals, eat the food of the locals and speak the local
language will he permit them to stay in his kingdom. This would ensure
integration and not make the Parsi women look like 'exotic objects of desire'.
This is the genesis of Parsis mother tongue becoming Gujrati in India. They
dress up too like Gujratis. But they have stopped short of inter marriage in
honour of the orthodoxy of their Church. Which partially explains their
dwindling numbers in India and around the
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logic of successful integration of that ruler in Baroach all those hundreds of
years ago was sound. isolation and protection of the tribes in ANI has not
exactly brought them spectacuular success in survival. What explains their
dwindling numbers inspite of isolation?
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> From: Rauf Ali
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> To: andamanicobar@ yahoogroups. co.in
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> Subject: Re: [andamanicobar] query for Barefoot
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> I think we have established that Survival International has broken the law,
by filming tribals where they were not supposed to be filmed. We have to find
out who from the A & N Administration was involved, and action needs to be taken
against them.
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> I don't think anybody who has not visited the Barefoot site, walked around,
seen the problems, has any business to comment on the issue. I haven't, thats
why I don't comment. This would be a total lack of professionalism.
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> More important than the hypothetical threat to the Jarawa here, is the
several hundred cars that drive through the reserve every day to see 'mud
volcanoes' at Baratang. None of them actually go to see this. They all go hoping
to see Jarawa along the road. The convoys do not matter, since the Jarawa are
found at the jetties in Baratang. Ask them to visit the mud volcanoes by boat
from Port Blair, and you will see this business die.
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> In spite of the police escort there is interaction- far more in a day than
Barefoot can contemplate over a decade.
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> Why doesn't the A & N Administration stop this Jarawa tourism first? Why
isn't Survival International addressing the real issue? Why aren't the other
tour operators in the islands taking a stand against the hundreds of cars doing
Jarawa tourism every day?
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> In one of your letters to Survival, you state: "I am already well advised by
some of the country´s leading experts on the Jarawa, who do not see the problems
with our resort that you do and no merit in your argument." Please could you
share with us the names of these experts?
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> I am told that the Jarawa visit Collinpur regularly and interact with local
villagers, and that they also come to the beach. As you are no doubt aware, they
could be very easily induced to visit more frequently, by means of small
handouts. Even if you are too ethical to resort to such practices, there is no
guarantee that others will be. If you win this case against the administration,
as you seem confident of doing, no one will be able to stop you or any other
resort operator from setting up shop in this location. Jarawa tourism will
become a fact of life.
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> To my mind this resort and this court case sets a dangerous precedent.
Doubtless there are experts who disagree, and I hope you can share with us their
testimonies.
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