Sign In
New User? Register
andamanicobar · Andaman&Nicobar
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
You can search the group for older messages.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Fwd: Re: Oram wants to mainstream A&N tribals in seven years   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #8 of 5972 |
Re: [andamanicobar] Fwd: Re: Oram wants to mainstream A&N tribals in seven years

This is worse case scenario. Can we approach the supreme court/NHRC on this.

Radha

----- Original Message -----
From: Pankaj Sekhsaria <pankajandaman@...>
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2003 4:10 pm
Subject: [andamanicobar] Fwd: Re: Oram wants to mainstream A&N tribals in seven
years

>
>
> disgusting_100 <disgusting_100@...> wrote:Date: Sat, 01
> Nov 2003 14:09:38 -0000
> From: "disgusting_100"
> To: andamanicobar-owner@...
> Subject: Re: Oram wants to mainstream A&N tribals in seven years
>
> Its a very interesting perspective.
> A political leader wants his ethnic group to mainstream and an NGO
> thinks it shouldnt happen
>
> Lots of value judgements happening here
> Fundamentally - why should an ethnic group remain in the way it had
> for millenia when the world around them is changing
>
> And who decides to exclude them from the "benefits" of "development"
> (I guess I also mean who defines "benefits" and "development")
> Who indeed decides the tribal "cause"?
>
> Hmmmmm
>
> Sugato
>
>
> --- In andamanicobar@..., "pankajandaman"
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> > Hindustantimes.com is running a special series of five articles on
> the
> > situation on the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. The third article
> that
> > was
> > posted today, quotes the Tribal Welfare Minister and his plans for
> > mainstreaming the A&N tribals in the next seven years.
> > A worse fate for these tribal people could not have been conceived.
> > The story is pasted below and so is the link, which will help you
> > access the
> > other stories as well give you an oppurtunity to post your opinion
> in
> > the
> > matter
> > Pankaj Sekhsaria
> > (Kalpavriksh)
> >
> > Minister pokes stuffy nose in tribal matter
> > Shailesh Shekhar | Friday, October 31, 2003
> >
> > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/specials/andaman/jualoram.html
> >
> >
> > If Union Tribal Welfare Minister Jual Oram has his way, by 2009 no
> > tribal of
> > the Andaman and Nicobar Islands will anymore be part of the
> Primitive
> > Tribe
> > Groups.
> > Since 2002, his ministry has been working steadfastly to "reform
> the
> > tribals
> > and assimilate them with the mainstream." This is despite a court
> > order,
> > stopping all attempts to interfere either with the tribals or
> their
> > ways of
> > life and living.
> > Minus the Nicobarese, the Jarawas, the Sentinalese, the Shompens,
> the
> > Onges
> > and the Great Andamanese are currently classified under the
> Primitive
> > Tribe
> > Group (PTG) by the tribal affairs ministry. (Indeed, this is the
> > first time
> > the Government of India has a separate ministry on Tribal Affairs
> and
> > a
> > Cabinet rank minister to head it.)
> > The minister says the PTG development has been a focus area for the
> > ministry. In 2002, the ministry drafted a seven-year plan to take
> the
> > category tribes out of the group. Currently, 75 tribes in India
> are
> > part of
> > the PTG.
> > The minister says earlier efforts "proved disastrous" because of
> the
> > gap
> > between the plans and their implementation at every level -
> > economically,
> > culturally and socially. "This time, we are engaging with NGOs
> such as
> > Ramakrishna Mission, and our Project Officers are going to be in
> > constant
> > touch with the tribes to take care in every possible manner."
> > The minister, of course, has assured himself that his plan neither
> > violates
> > court orders and nor interferes with tribal life. ".we just want
> to
> > know
> > about them. It is not right to leave them as is. They should
> realise
> > their
> > surroundings - that a human race exists around them.
> > .we will deal with them anthropologically. People only offer
> > suggestions, we
> > want solutions."
> > On whether the Government of India has formulated any guidelines
> for
> > the
> > local administration vis-à-vis the handling of the tribals, he
> > says, "we
> > have asked them not to make the life of tribals difficult."
> >
> > Mr Oram is also certain that the Tourism Ministry plans for
> Andaman
> > and
> > Nicobar Islands must be implemented. "Tourism should happen. It
> will
> > not
> > disturb the tribals. They are a little away. Moreover, we will have
> > restrictions."
> > Incidentally, the minister is not part of the nodal group which
> has
> > drafted
> > the grand plan for tourism in the Bay of Bengal archipelago
> >
> > Samir Acharya of Society for Andaman & Nicobar Society (SANE),
> which
> > has
> > been working overtime for the tribals' cause, says the ministry's
> > plan need
> > to be shelved immediately.
> >
> > "It is the worst possible plan. They will never get away with it.
> > They have
> > almost finished the Andamanese and the Onges under the guise of
> > ameliorating
> > their living conditions. This plan should not be touched with a
> 20-
> > feet-long
> > pole."
> >
> >
> >
> > Kalpavriksh
> > Apt. 5, Sri Dutta Krupa,
> > 908 Deccan Gymkhana
> > Pune 411004
> > India
> > Tel: + 91 20 5654239 / 5675450
> > Fax: 5654239
> > Email: kvriksh@v...
>
>
>
> Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online.Post your profile.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> andamanicobar-unsubscribe@...
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://in.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>





Sun Nov 2, 2003 5:10 pm

radhakamath@...
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #8 of 5972 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

ranjanenv <ranjvaid@...> wrote: Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 18:54:17 -0000 From: "ranjanenv" To: andamanicobar-owner@... Subject: Re: Oram...
Pankaj Sekhsaria
pankajandaman@...
Send Email
Nov 2, 2003
10:48 am

disgusting_100 <disgusting_100@...> wrote:Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:09:38 -0000 From: "disgusting_100" To: andamanicobar-owner@... ...
Pankaj Sekhsaria
pankajandaman@...
Send Email
Nov 2, 2003
10:48 am

This is worse case scenario. Can we approach the supreme court/NHRC on this. Radha ... From: Pankaj Sekhsaria <pankajandaman@...> Date: Sunday,...
radhakamath@...
Send Email
Nov 3, 2003
7:47 am

Dear Sugato, you have raised a point that is indeed relevant in the situation of the Andaman tribes people. The world they are living in is indeed so different...
Rainer Hoerig
rainer@...
Send Email
Nov 4, 2003
7:56 am

Dear Rainer and others I visited the Andamans islands as a tourist a couple of years ago and drove through the ATR- a road that caused the deaths of so many...
Meena Menon
cats@...
Send Email
Nov 4, 2003
2:01 pm

Regarding agenda setting for development, in the case of the ethnic people of the Andamans, there is a distinct difference from the history of the mainland. ...
ANANT
ganant@...
Send Email
Nov 5, 2003
1:06 pm

Hi Sugato, there have been detailed and interesting responses to your thought provoking questions but after reading your questions one question comes to my...
Neema Pathak Broome
natrails@...
Send Email
Nov 7, 2003
11:06 am

This gets interesting folks! If 'benefits' of 'development' is any indication of what is happening to the Onge's and the Jarawas then I totally agree with...
Lima Rosalind
rosalindad1@...
Send Email
Nov 10, 2003
8:54 am

"It is not right to leave them as is. They should realise their surroundings - that a human race exists around them. .we will deal with them ...
Aletha Tavares
aletha@...
Send Email
Nov 10, 2003
1:46 pm

Hi This mail has some good suggestions-Pankaj is it possible to quickly get some background on the subjects raised in the mail below, since you know much...
Meena Menon
cats@...
Send Email
Nov 11, 2003
5:14 am

Dear friends, I agree with Aletha's point of view on this highly sensitive issue. Honestly how many of really understand tribals,their world vision? Are we...
chalakudy river river
chalakudyriver@...
Send Email
Nov 11, 2003
5:14 am

Dear Friends, I agree with Aletha's and Latha's Point of view. Tribals world over have sufferred brutally at the hands of the so called civilised society. It...
ullaash kumar
ullaashkumar@...
Send Email
Nov 11, 2003
2:13 pm
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help