thats without execption..just a typing error..
"Sometimes it takes lifetime to understand that life is too short to
understand.."
--- On Mon, 1/12/08, alka kedia <alka_kd@...> wrote:
> From: alka kedia <alka_kd@...>
> Subject: Re: [Designindia: www.indiadesignfestival.org] Re: 4th Dec 'Design
Response to Terror' workshop at SID
> To: designindia@...
> Date: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 7:43 PM
> Hi Prashant,
>
> The Munich example is just what came to my mind when the
> whole thing had gone on till thursday morning..and the way
> it was being shown by the media..
>
> When one sees the movie one realises just how crazy
> killing someone is. How it can distort your thinking and
> destroy the peace of your mind forever. Though at one level
> I did appreciate the strong action taken by the Israeli PM
> at that time.
>
> Feel its time our government took just drastic steps
> against terror in India, especially Kashmir. Hunt down the
> people responsible for the senseless carnage in Mumbai.
>
> After all we too have a stong intelligence system..its just
> that some one need to take heed of what they say and
> implement protocols everywhere and for everyone, with
> exception.
>
> Alka Kedia
> Sophia Polytechnic,(Interiors) '96
> Alka Kedia- Essentially Designing Spaces
> Mumbai
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sometimes it takes lifetime to understand that life
> is too short to understand.."
>
> --- On Mon, 1/12/08, Subhedar Prashant
> <dedanadan@...> wrote:
>
> From: Subhedar Prashant <dedanadan@...>
> Subject: [Designindia: www.indiadesignfestival.org] Re: 4th
> Dec 'Design Response to Terror' workshop at SID
> To: designindia@...
> Date: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 4:45 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Having been a part of various networking groups
> online/offline, one gets to hear the usual responses from
> people: bomb the Terror camps in Pakistan, we need to look
> within, upgrade the technological infrastructure, so on so
> forth. As designers, you would appreciate that a design that
> is based upon solid research is the only one that can
> survive the vagaries of the business/social environment,
> which none of the well meaning commentators of the above
> mentioned responses do.
>
> I won't be able to attend this conference, but
> here's my 2 bits of contribution to this conference.
> Please read the links below. They present diametrically
> different approaches to deal with hate crimes such as
> terrorism/illegal state detention etc.
>
> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Wrath_of_ god
>
> http://www.amnesty. org/en/internati onal-justice/
> issues/universal -jurisdiction
>
> Make the nation proud by working out a strategy (some level
> of details here, please: remember Mies) and do not let the
> conference degenerate into a back slapping affair replete
> with mealy statements like upgrading of security
> infrastructure (without understanding the logistics and
> finances involved), accountability of public officials
> etc.These are utopian in nature and not something that can
> be put into practice with immediate effect.If you are aware
> of the biblical characters, now is the time to remember
> Gideon, who with a small band of followers put an army
> numbering thousands to flight ie see what you can do most
> without a wholesale change of the status quo.
>
> For the participants, if my language has in anyway felt
> derogatory or offensive, I ask for forgiveness in advance.
> My thoughts and means of putting them here are not to
> insult/belittle any of you, but to prod you into showing
> that design thinking can make a genuine difference and this
> is an opportunity to show how.
>
> With Best Wishes,
>
> Prashant Subhedar
> IDDC IITD-98
>
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> 4th Dec 'Design Response to Terror' workshop at SID
> From: Prakash Khanzode View All Topics | Create New Topic
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> 4th Dec 'Design Response to Terror' workshop at SID
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> Posted by: "Prakash Khanzode" prakash@oniodesign.
> com prakash_onio
> Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:55 pm
> I will be present for 4th Dec 'Design Response to
> Terror' workshop at Symbiosis Institute of Design, Pune.
> I shall confirm if some more participants are willing to
> join from Onio. I would be interested to be a part of
> Strategy & Product Design team on this initiative.
> Requesting all those who would be participating in this
> workshop to post their names, with area of interest/
> expertise in this context, on punedesignfoundatio
> n@yahoogroups. com
>
> Pls. check my last posting (below in this mail) on the
> nature of the workshop, as response to Pankaj Sapkal's
> query on participation.
>
> Best regards
>
> Prakash Khanzode - प्रकाश खानझोडे
> 1997 NID
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pankaj Sapkal
> To: punedesignfoundatio n@yahoogroups. com ; Prakash
> Khanzode
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [punedesignfoundati on] 4th Dec Anti-terror
> workshop at SID
>
> Prakash,
> That was a good explanation, since I could not come to the
> last meeting on this. thanks.
> I feel that we should have some clear estimation on who are
> the people who are there with concrete presentations.
> Because if we don't have that, and we run out of
> concrete points to discuss on, then it is then going to be
> more of an open house, and considering people's
> sentiments now, I fear that it will go towards preventive
> measures doctrine as well as discussions on terrorism.
> We most certainly need a strong moderator who can keep it
> on track.
> - Pankaj Sapkal
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Prakash Khanzode
> <prakash@oniodesign . com> wrote:
>
> Hi Pankaj
>
> This concern on involving the experts was deliberated on
> during the last PDF meting on Friday. Some of us even
> suggested to involve the PDF guests who are already in city
> for the postponed events. It's not limited to PDF
> members or just designers. You may invite more people who
> could help in building the context, on design intervention
> and systematic response to such events.
>
> However the first session is focused on developing the
> strategy for design intervention, and to create a system
> design model. In the process, teams working on elements of
> this model, will need to interact with experts and agencies.
> Also as the project takes shape we can work out the process
> and timing for involving the experts. I am personally
> working with such experts for some time and I can say that
> unless we have some clear process/ ideas charted out,
> involvement from these experts will be underutilized. Yes,
> there is a possibility that we will be spending some efforts
> on re-inventing few wheels in the process, but it's
> still seems better option than getting into a conditional
> response & pre-conceived ideas.
>
> The people who are planning to attend the first session are
> requested to come with a short presentation, to precisely
> avoid some ex tempore speeches, emotional outbursts and
> rhetoric.
>
> A note of cautious discretion, we are suggesting to deal
> with this whole project like a design project, like we all
> understand. With a clearly defined scope and brief, we
> should be striving to create best outcome. Definitely there
> is a research and analysis components is involved. However
> we are not really attempting 'preventive- measures-
> doctrines' and theories on 'what/why-is-
> terrorism' for this phase/scope of action.
>
> Best regards
>
> Prakash Khanzode - प्रकाश खानझोडे
>
> Onio Design Pvt. Ltd.
> 'Begin Differently' - Sense | Strategize | Design
>
> www.oniodesign. com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pankaj Sapkal
> To: punedesignfoundatio n@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:37 AM
> Subject: [punedesignfoundati on] 4th Dec Anti-terror
> workshop at SID
>
> Are only PDF and designindia members invited, or is it an
> open house to anyone?
>
> And is there any idea on how many people are actually
> prepared with something more than an ex tempore speech?
>
> Are we inviting anyone from the defense or disaster
> management background to show them how designers can think,
> and the utility of including designers in think-tanks?
> I would like to invite some people - so please let me know.
>
> - Pankaj Sapkal
>
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