Hi Alka,

I do understand the implications on the minds of the persons involved
in the wrath of god hit teams. But saying we need to hunt them down
means nothing unless we elaborate on how to do that. It was just to
spark some thought on how to do just that instead of the usual
comments of soul searching etc that I first wrote my mail.

Prashant


--- In designindia@..., alka kedia <alka_kd@...> wrote:
>
> thats without execption..just a typing error..
>
>
> "Sometimes it takes lifetime to understand that life is too short to
understand.."
>
>
> --- On Mon, 1/12/08, alka kedia <alka_kd@...> wrote:
>
> > From: alka kedia <alka_kd@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Designindia: www.indiadesignfestival.org] Re: 4th
Dec 'Design Response to Terror' workshop at SID
> > To: designindia@...
> > Date: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 7:43 PM
> > Hi Prashant,
> >  
> > The Munich example is just what came to my mind when the
> > whole thing had gone on till thursday morning..and the way
> > it was being shown by the media..
> >  
> > When one sees the movie one realises  just how crazy
> > killing someone is. How it can distort your thinking and
> > destroy the peace of your mind forever. Though at one level
> > I did appreciate the strong action taken by the Israeli PM
> > at that time.
> >  
> > Feel its time our government took just drastic steps
> > against terror in India, especially Kashmir. Hunt down the
> > people responsible for the senseless carnage in Mumbai.
> >  
> > After all we too have a stong intelligence system..its just
> > that some one need to take heed of what they say and
> > implement protocols everywhere and for everyone, with
> > exception.
> >  
> > Alka Kedia
> > Sophia Polytechnic,(Interiors) '96
> > Alka Kedia- Essentially Designing Spaces
> > Mumbai
> >  
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > "Sometimes it takes lifetime to understand that life
> > is too short to understand.."
> >
> > --- On Mon, 1/12/08, Subhedar Prashant
> > <dedanadan@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Subhedar Prashant <dedanadan@...>
> > Subject: [Designindia: www.indiadesignfestival.org] Re: 4th
> > Dec 'Design Response to Terror' workshop at SID
> > To: designindia@...
> > Date: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 4:45 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > Having been a part of various networking groups
> > online/offline, one gets to hear the usual responses from
> > people: bomb the Terror camps in Pakistan, we need to look
> > within, upgrade the technological infrastructure, so on so
> > forth. As designers, you would appreciate that a design that
> > is based upon solid research is the only one that can
> > survive the vagaries of the business/social environment,
> > which none of the well meaning commentators of the above
> > mentioned responses do.
> >
> > I won't be able to attend this conference, but
> > here's my 2 bits of contribution to this conference.
> > Please read the links below. They present diametrically
> > different approaches to deal with hate crimes such as
> > terrorism/illegal state detention etc.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Wrath_of_ god
> >
> > http://www.amnesty. org/en/internati onal-justice/
> > issues/universal -jurisdiction
> >
> > Make the nation proud by working out a strategy (some level
> > of details here, please: remember Mies) and do not let the
> > conference degenerate into a back slapping affair replete
> > with mealy statements like upgrading of security
> > infrastructure (without understanding the logistics and
> > finances involved), accountability of public officials
> > etc.These are utopian in nature and not something that can
> > be put into practice with immediate effect.If you are aware
> > of the biblical characters, now is the time to remember
> > Gideon, who with a small band of followers put an army
> > numbering thousands to flight ie see what you can do most
> > without a wholesale change of the status quo.
> >
> > For the participants, if my language has in anyway felt
> > derogatory or offensive, I ask for forgiveness in advance.
> > My thoughts and means of putting them here are not to
> > insult/belittle any of you, but to prod you into showing
> > that design thinking can make a genuine difference and this
> > is an opportunity to show how.
> >
> > With Best Wishes,
> >
> > Prashant Subhedar
> > IDDC IITD-98
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: "designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in"
> > <designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in>
> > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:47:46 PM
> > Subject: [Designindia: www.indiadesignfest ival.org] Digest
> > Number 2258
> >
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> >
> > 1.
> > 4th Dec 'Design Response to Terror' workshop at SID
> > From: Prakash Khanzode View All Topics | Create New Topic
> > Message
> > 1.
> > 4th Dec 'Design Response to Terror' workshop at SID
> >
> > Posted by: "Prakash Khanzode" prakash@oniodesign.
> > com prakash_onio
> > Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:55 pm
> > I will be present for 4th Dec 'Design Response to
> > Terror' workshop at Symbiosis Institute of Design, Pune.
> > I shall confirm if some more participants are willing to
> > join from Onio. I would be interested to be a part of
> > Strategy & Product Design team on this initiative.
> > Requesting all those who would be participating in this
> > workshop to post their names, with area of interest/
> > expertise in this context, on punedesignfoundatio
> > n@yahoogroups. com
> >
> > Pls. check my last posting (below in this mail) on the
> > nature of the workshop, as response to Pankaj Sapkal's
> > query on participation.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Prakash Khanzode - प्रकाश खानझोडे
> > 1997 NID
> >
> > Onio Design Pvt. Ltd.
> > 'Begin Differently' - Sense | Strategize | Design
> > www.oniodesign. com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pankaj Sapkal
> > To: punedesignfoundatio n@yahoogroups. com ; Prakash
> > Khanzode
> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [punedesignfoundati on] 4th Dec Anti-terror
> > workshop at SID
> >
> > Prakash,
> > That was a good explanation, since I could not come to the
> > last meeting on this. thanks.
> > I feel that we should have some clear estimation on who are
> > the people who are there with concrete presentations.
> > Because if we don't have that, and we run out of
> > concrete points to discuss on, then it is then going to be
> > more of an open house, and considering people's
> > sentiments now, I fear that it will go towards preventive
> > measures doctrine as well as discussions on terrorism.
> > We most certainly need a strong moderator who can keep it
> > on track.
> > - Pankaj Sapkal
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Prakash Khanzode
> > <prakash@oniodesign . com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Pankaj
> >
> > This concern on involving the experts was deliberated on
> > during the last PDF meting on Friday. Some of us even
> > suggested to involve the PDF guests who are already in city
> > for the postponed events. It's not limited to PDF
> > members or just designers. You may invite more people who
> > could help in building the context, on design intervention
> > and systematic response to such events.
> >
> > However the first session is focused on developing the
> > strategy for design intervention, and to create a system
> > design model. In the process, teams working on elements of
> > this model, will need to interact with experts and agencies.
> > Also as the project takes shape we can work out the process
> > and timing for involving the experts. I am personally
> > working with such experts for some time and I can say that
> > unless we have some clear process/ ideas charted out,
> > involvement from these experts will be underutilized. Yes,
> > there is a possibility that we will be spending some efforts
> > on re-inventing few wheels in the process, but it's
> > still seems better option than getting into a conditional
> > response & pre-conceived ideas.
> >
> > The people who are planning to attend the first session are
> > requested to come with a short presentation, to precisely
> > avoid some ex tempore speeches, emotional outbursts and
> > rhetoric.
> >
> > A note of cautious discretion, we are suggesting to deal
> > with this whole project like a design project, like we all
> > understand. With a clearly defined scope and brief, we
> > should be striving to create best outcome. Definitely there
> > is a research and analysis components is involved. However
> > we are not really attempting 'preventive- measures-
> > doctrines' and theories on 'what/why-is-
> > terrorism' for this phase/scope of action.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Prakash Khanzode - प्रकाश खानझोडे
> >
> > Onio Design Pvt. Ltd.
> > 'Begin Differently' - Sense | Strategize | Design
> >
> > www.oniodesign. com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pankaj Sapkal
> > To: punedesignfoundatio n@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:37 AM
> > Subject: [punedesignfoundati on] 4th Dec Anti-terror
> > workshop at SID
> >
> > Are only PDF and designindia members invited, or is it an
> > open house to anyone?
> >
> > And is there any idea on how many people are actually
> > prepared with something more than an ex tempore speech?
> >
> > Are we inviting anyone from the defense or disaster
> > management background to show them how designers can think,
> > and the utility of including designers in think-tanks?
> > I would like to invite some people - so please let me know.
> >
> > - Pankaj Sapkal
> >
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