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Re: **designindia** why is Christina so angry ?

While reading through Christina's page, I read through another story of hers
and I believe this says it better.
http://www.wodtkeconsulting.com/view/leaving-the

thanks,
Aparna

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM, saumitri <saumitri_c@...> wrote:

> I have a completely different view. I don't think a business case
> needs special skills to write.
>
> Everyone who starts a business writes a business case in some form or
> the other, and there is nothing to prove that a "well written"
> business case will succeed in place of a crazy idea, for which no
> business case has yet been written. When Google started off, they had
> no business case, in a way that will bring them money - its only later
> that they figured out how to earn money. Today Twitter has no business
> case for itself, but like Google it will figure out soon enough.
> McKinsey had suggested to Bajaj to scrap the Pulsar project, which
> fortunately they didn't listen to, and we know how it went on to
> become a smash hit.
>
> We know how the business case for sub-prime lending by so many big
> financial wizards on Wall Street has landed the whole world in
> recession. They were like sheep - when one jumped into the well, the
> rest followed. And believe me, most of the business world is filled
> with sheep who simply follow the trend.
>
> I don't think one goes to business school to learn anything new that
> you can't learn from experience or a specialized course. A business
> management course is not a skills based training - it is an quick
> orientation to the world of business and the ability to connect the
> dots. For example, a course in Finance and Accountancy will teach you
> the nuances of Finance better. But an MBA will provide you orientation
> to a whole range of subjects, so that without being a "deep" expert,
> you will know enough to take a decision. So the key is not in the
> course itself. The key is in the smart people who go to a business
> school, and how that orientation boosts their self confidence to make
> business decisions. The rest, whether its research or creating a
> business case, happens simply because they are smart people who can
> grasp things quickly, dedicate their minds on what they do and finally
> connect the dots.
>
> There are many idiots who go to business school too, and I am sure
> that the business school doesn't do any magic with them. They remain
> idiots, unless they grab the opportunity and take the initiative.
>
> It doesn't take too much for a smart guy to figure out the world and
> create a business case, provided the opportunity exists. Do we have
> smart people going to design schools? That is the question we must
> ask. And when they come out of the school, do they get the opportunity?
>
> My view is that not too many smart people go to d-schools yet.
> Ofcourse a few exceptions do exist and I am sure these people do well
> anyway. Design is still seen as some kind of a fancy occupation that
> is more akin to extending your hobby rather than a serious profession.
> The guys who come out of design schools add to this perception; they
> typically come in two shapes - serious introverts who concentrate on
> their job, or, foggy design philosophers who can blabber a lot but do
> nothing more. This is changing though - designers are becoming more
> professional and achievement oriented, while business is seeing value
> in the tools that designers bring on the table, especially with regard
> to innovation and strategic planning.
>
> Coming to opportunity, there exists opportunities, but not large
> enough yet. Business still hires MBAs to plan and run business, not
> because they can write a business case better (as Siddharth says) but
> simply because its the convention and no one wants to take the risks.
> Also, MBAs typically are smart guys who are oriented exactly as the
> business conventionally wants them to be.
>
> A lot of people are today asking the questions that Vinay is asking,
> and that is a welcome sign. This introspection is needed for the
> profession to evolve.
>
> Best regards,
> Saumitri
>
>
>



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Aparna Kaushal


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I liked this post by Christina Wodtke. http://www.wodtkeconsulting.com/view/why-am-i-so-angry Now my Questions Does this sound familiar? As a designer do you...
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Dear Vinay You could join a group called Transforming Transformation on GoogleGroups to address these questions. It is led by G K VanPatter of NextD to address...
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Vinay, Thats a really interesting post! You point out some important aspects of being an Interaction Designer these days. With the changing atmosphere in the...
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Hi Kshitiz,   Just a counter view. If a client needs a solution for a "business case" whom will he turn to? Design consultant or a business/management...
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i am sorry to sound so pedantic, but really... why? the main question - whether if it's for all of us, u and me, interaction designers, design managers or...
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I have a completely different view. I don't think a business case needs special skills to write. Everyone who starts a business writes a business case in some...
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While reading through Christina's page, I read through another story of hers and I believe this says it better. ...
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hi Siddharth, Nice point. What we are talking here is how much - or to what extent can a designer understand others( management consultants, developers, etc)...
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Hi Vinay,   Agreed! This sounds fine.   Now, my question is, do you think today the client has failed to find solutions to his business needs that he has to...
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Hi, Have you doing some course from Image Institute of Digital Technology, Gulbai Tekra, Ahmedabad??? ________________________________ From: Aparna Kaushal...
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Brilliant post Saumitri! Enjoyed every bit of it! Siddharth, Thanks for pointing those things! While I understand that the clients would definitely go for MBA...
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