Hey guys
I am a 'female' designer looking for a job, am elegant
graceful and charming. I can even change the color of
my eyes as per requirements.
Can I design? My art teacher in school always told me
I was 'creative'. I can also arrange flowers (useful
for the office reception) and pick curtains.

naga nandini
NID 83 - 87 PD
Bangalore
--- Deepa Rathnam Nirmal <deeparnirmal@...>
wrote:

>
> Sourendu,
>
> If your female friends don't mind this 'favorable'
> discrimination, well that too is pathetic in my
> opinion. Sexism is not dead, by no means, and in no
> country. Even here in the US I have once heard 'it
> will be nice to have you as a woman in a roomful of
> men talking to the client'. Interestingly, shortly
> thereafter we designed an e-Learning program called
> 'The Issue is Respect' which dealt with the laws and
> HR policies on sexual harassment, quid pro quo,
> gender/race/age discrimination, and valuing
> diversity.
>
> The point is that if you make it difficult for
> people
> to maintain their archaic behavior and penalize them
> strongly, attitudes will change. They will change by
> fear of punishment first, then over time and a
> generation or two it will seem surprising that
> people
> held such notions. For example,whatever racist
> feelings people may still entertain, nobody will
> dare
> to show them openly by word or deed in this country.
> Recently Wal-Mart was taken to court in a class
> action
> over gender discrimination. I've lost track of the
> case but no doubt there will be a substantial
> settlement and they will start promoting women to
> senior positions.
>
> Let's start doing what you suggest: make industry
> realize that IN
> > THE
> > FIELD OF DESIGN GENDER DOESNOT PLAY ANY
> ROLE...ITS
> > THE OUT COME FROM A DESIGNER MATTERS.."
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Deepa
> (who as a woman from a minority group in the US is
> doing just fine without any pro or con
> discrimination,
> thank you)
>
> Deepa Rathnam Nirmal
> Communication Design, NID, 1989-95
> SVP, Creative Services, Visum
> St. Paul, MN, USA
>
>
> --- sourendu das <sourendu@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > hi deepa!
> > nice to see discussions on topic like "male fabric
> > designer" in this group. as you have mentioned " a
> > male- what possible relevance a person's sex
> > > would have for the job is beyond me. Are they
> > > expecting the person to work in some hazardous
> > > situation where a 'delicate' female would not
> > > survive?"
> > i want to put forward a point that in india
> > (specially
> > in delhi"the capital of india")if you go through
> any
> > classifieds for textile designer/merchandiser job
> or
> > projects 80% times you will find "wanted only
> female
> > designers or merchandisers". so in this case can
> we
> > assume that companies do not want the caliber of a
> > designer in related field but a female who can be
> > pleasant to look at/ good at hospitality in office
> > and
> > buyer meetings?????(this might trigger another
> > direction for discussion). hey my female friends
> in
> > textile line don't feel hurt or angry.....
> > so this is already there in india and i donot
> think
> > its an issue to write male fabric designer in an
> > advertisement.
> > the main point is to make industry realize that IN
> > THE
> > FIELD OF DESIGN GENDER DOESNOT PLAY ANY
> ROLE...ITS
> > THE OUT COME FROM A DESIGNER MATTERS.."
> > cheer up....
> > sourendu
> > TD,2002
> > weavetex overseas, delhi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Deepa Rathnam Nirmal <deeparnirmal@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to add I too was shocked to see the
> > > stipulation
> > > for a male- what possible relevance a person's
> sex
> > > would have for the job is beyond me. Are they
> > > expecting the person to work in some hazardous
> > > situation where a 'delicate' female would not
> > > survive?
> > > Or is there some serious heavy lifting involved?
> > >
> > > Here in the US, there would be a line of gleeful
> > > lawyers outside the door of the organization
> > before
> > > you could utter the word 'lawsuit'. Somebody
> needs
> > > to
> > > inform these people that such double standards,
> if
> > > not
> > > passé, definitely deserve to be.
> > >
> > > Deepa
> > >
> > > Deepa Rathnam Nirmal
> > > CD, NID, 1989-95
> > > SVP, Creative Services, Visum
> > > St. Paul, MN, USA
> > >
> > > --- Prachi <imprachi@...> wrote:
> > > > As Asok pointed out, being a 'female' textile
> > > > designer
> > > > suddenly sounds like an issue. I'm surprised
> > that
> > > > such a
> > > > bias still exists amongst us so-called
> > > > aducated/urban
> > > > societies. And ironically that too in a design
> > > area
> > > > with
> > > > the highest women to men ratio.
> > > >
> > > > Prachi Mishra
> > > > NID,TD
> > > > 2004
> > > > freelancer
> > > > New Delhi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Asok George <asokaag@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Asok Abraham George
> > > > > Design Lead
> > > > > Volvo Truck Corporation
> > > > > Gothenburg Sweden
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps I've been living in Sweden for too
> > > > > long...........
> > > > >
> > > > > But posting for a job specifing gender would
> > > never
> > > > be
> > > > > accepted here. Its
> > > > > like saying "only whites need apply".
> > > > >
> > > > > I think such attitudes should not encouraged
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > design community in
> > > > > India.
> > > > >
> > > > > ASOK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Arvind Lodaya"
> > <emailarvind@...>
> > > > > >Reply-To: designindia@...
> > > > > >To: <designindia@...>
> > > > > >Subject: [designindia] "male fabric"
> > > designer!!1
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:31:24 +0530
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This is how Pradyumna's post showed up in
> my
> > > > mailbox,
> > > > > and I think it is
> > > > > >deliciously ironic!
> > > > > >BTW: What exactly is a "male fabric" and
> how
> > > does
> > > > it
> > > > > differ from a "female
> > > > > >fabric"?
>
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