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RE: [designindia] Re: "good design"

I know in my gut that "good" design is about "great, light,
deep-thinking and non-thinking". And I have seen people from different
walks and professions nurture and use this ability in themselves and for
others. They do not exert any moral or professional right while doing
so. Neither do they obscure their understanding of what is valuable and
enduring.

When I believe "x" or "y" is good, then hopefully I have appreciated how
much of "bad" exists in it too and I have figured out how to work with
the whole and transform those parameters that can be differentiated. And
that working out is informed by "desh, kal, patra". (The different
facets of context - physical, temporal and capacicity)

Din, the point of "bore" in practice is well taken, and perhaps like
Rashmi says the compass is pointing to where some answers may lie. The
change in the nature of practice itself?

Warm regards,
Poonam



-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [designindia] Re: "good design"

Dear Ranjan, Raja, Poonam and others

During a class I was recently taking I asked the question - does
design lead or does it follow? the ovewhelming response was that
design follows. Follows what? follows trends, fashion, technology,
science, market forces, and so on. Much discussion followed (which i
believe continued into the canteen and corridor) mainly due to the '
shock and awe ' I expressed!

If we were to list the qualities by which we commonly characterise
human nature they would include - irresponsible, selfish, slave to
our
desires, greedy, manipulative and so on.

This came home to me in my class with students in gandhinagar. After
doing field work they were developing scenarios for 2020, for the
children of gandhinagar in areas that we had chosen. (opportunities
for physical growth, food and entertainment, areas for intellectual
growth etc) Several ideas were very interesting but in many cases the
students felt the need to 'package' the concepts so as to create an
interest in the children (welcome little fishes in with gently
smiling
jaws!) as if they would not know a good thing if they saw it. and so
websites and kids magazines were replete with competitions that bring
prizes for otherwise what would be the motivation to participate? and
food joints serving tasty healthy food would be located in kiosks
shaped like burgers, and club houses would have locks held by a
responsible adult or how would equipment stay secure?

It struck me that not just the students, but we all 'design in'
deception, distrust, control because we design in 'our own image' so
to speak, and that image is the dismayilng one i outlined in the
beginning. Ofcourse this image of human nature has been artfully
built
and exploited by marketing and business and politics, and in this
noise the more luminescent side of human nature has been drowned out.
And we continue to create institutions, and services and products
that
perpetuate the conditions for this image to prevail.

But elsewhere things are changing. What is so inspiring about
movements like opensource and initiatives like wikipedia is that they
are based on a different model of human nature - the joy of work,
high
standards of quality, responsibility, generosity, and so on.

I think this is where the compass is pointing.

Rashmi
Studio Korjan





--- In designindia@..., Ranjan M P <ranjanmp@n...>
wrote:
> Dear Poonam
>
> The word "satisfactory underperformance" touches a chord.









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Dear Ranjan, Raja, Poonam and others During a class I was recently taking I asked the question - does design lead or does it follow? the ovewhelming response...
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I know in my gut that "good" design is about "great, light, deep-thinking and non-thinking". And I have seen people from different walks and professions...
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... Is this the reason that we very seldom see even an introductory course on Design in Graduate schools in Engg/ etc in our country? This would ve been a good...
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Ok this discussion seems pretty interesting...but now let me play the fool. What exactly is "good design"? How do we define what is good design? Is it us, the...
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Hi all, Good Design !!! Science and Tecnology or Engineering , talking about them we think of institutions like IIT's,NIT,IISc, etc and also, we know the...
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To continue with this thread, I want to throw out a phrase I used in the beginning of a presentation I gave at ID, IIT two years ago. I said, "Design is an...
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Dear Gowthaman U P Thank you for your pointed question addressed to me, which I cannot pass. I got three messages from my past students wishing me "Happy...
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Forwarded is a mail, sent by Prof. Amarnath, Mech. Engg, IIT Bombay. Though it does not specifically say "Designers", and the omission on one hand points to...
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Dear AseefKadir I think that I have to clarify my statement, thank you for pointing it out the need for design programmes in Engineering schools (and ...
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appropriate possess integrity does a butterfly need all it's colours if my nose were shaped different, or made of another material ... would i be me? if my...
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Dear Samson, You have put in the right words for good design. I would like to add "Popular" in the list may as a last item. Sharad Singh Solanki AEP FD 97 ...
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Dug this out to share with the group - such a fine description Rashmi "It fits nicely with a favorite analogy of my own: good design is not unlike coming up...
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WOW! This is the best analogy ! Thanks Rashmi rkorjan <rashmi@...> wrote:Dug this out to share with the group - such a fine description Rashmi "It fits...
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