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Re: [designindia] Re: defining design

hi ranjan

your post takes us back to the other classical question: is human nature
different from nature? are our intentions and actions independent of
natural processes?

at least to be alive we need to have air which is connected with
everything else. the quality and constitution of air is determined by
all the life forms that depend on it. plants like what we breathe out as
it contains carbon dioxide, we like what the the plants breathe out as
it contains oxygen and so on. the inbreath transforms us and in the
outbreath we transform the world?

to illustrate further. the most self-ish (i.e. without having to consult
anybody else) act would be to take one's own life. but in this day and
age it is possible to predict with reasonable accuracy - how many
suicides are likely to take place and where. and what kind of mental
states could lead to such events. these days we know who is likely to
win the election even before the votes are counted or even voted.

is there really an 'undo' function to our actions? is the replica of an
antique the same as the antique?

if design is about the creation of value (i.e. useful to something /
somebeing) then the most fundamental contribution would be the
'outbreath' - which i guess would be older than human beings themselves
and very natural whether practised intentionally (as in pranayam etc.)
or otherwise.

much regards.
din

dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad (nid pd 1976)

M P Ranjan wrote:
> Dear Deepankar
>
> Comparing design by humans to the design by evolution in nature is full
> of difficulties. Firstly, evolution in nature is a one way process
> (genetic engineering notwithstanding), starting from a-cellular beings
> in the primordial soup of rich molecules (organic but inert - not
> living), nature has evolved by differentiation and adoption of change
> as a one-way street and there is no going back, ever, and if any form
> of life goes extinct, it can NEVER be replicated, ever. There is no
> going back, ever.
>
> However, human productions, as defined by the statement, Design is
> human "intentions through thought and action that help produce value"
> (my current working definition - MPR 2006) is s form of cultural
>
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Dear Arvind, Actually my thought is to define Design "generically". I feel managers are engaged in "Design" when they imagine, project forward and have the...
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hi George, Arvind, I wonder if designers don't actually visualise a set of possible end results and then figure out how to make it happen, of course, a great...
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Dear Deepankar, I would tend to think that most desingers actually have a sense of the eventual outcome which they then tend to refine in consecutive steps....
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