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Re: [designindia] cross learnings

Hi Prashant!

Very very heartening indeed. Now, how do we learn from
this and go forward? NID is better placed to be
'heard' by such organisations which other design
houses may not. In fact I feel the same even when one
wants to do something for the BMC or other such
clients.

Any positive exeperience anyone?

In fact, I am quite excited by the direction Ranjan
has shown in relation to the budget 2007 outcomes.

Siddharth Dash
AEP PD
--- Prashant Kutaula <prashantkutaula@...>
wrote:

> Dear Siddharth and Sisir,
>
> Indian Railways is too big an organisation to be
> ignored.. In fact, when we were at the NID
> Incubator, we had successfully sold then NID student
> Sandeep Paul's Idea of Disposable Mug to Railways.
> One of their ED(Executive Directors), Mr Virdi flew
> to Ahmedabad from Delhi on instructions of Chairman
> Railway Board, even gave a sample order but Sandip
> could not execute as we could not find an
> entrepreneur who could manufacture for the sample
> order.
>
> In fact, Mr Virdi had evinced interest in many
> ideas but as I said earlier one would need dedicated
> Key Account Relationship Managers for getting
> business from Railways as Virdi is one of the 50 EDs
> who sit in Rail Bhavan and the account map as well
> as buying/decision making process is quite long and
> complex.
>
> regds
> prashant
>
> siddharth Dash <siddharth_dash@...> wrote:
> Dear Sisir,
>
> Agreed that Mr Lalu Prasad has given a direction for
> railways to make profits and rail journey better
> through its budget.
>
> Inter alia he has also mentioned about changing the
> 72
> seater to 85 seater. Now how does one make the
> change
> without changing the bogie size. The design
> opportunity is vague out here. I hope it is not
> going
> to be a Procustus Syndrome.
>
> How many times NID as well as its students
> approached
> RCF to redesign the coach? How many times IDC has
> made
> attempts to do the same? I think several times. What
> happened to those attempts. It fell flat on the
> Babus
> of Railways. I think there is little hope for the
> time
> being.
>
> Siddharth Dash
> AEP PD 1992
> Mumbai
> --- sisir <sisirnath@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Even before completing three years in office Lalu
> > Yadav has turned around
> > perpetually loss making Indian Railways in to
> > world’s most profitable railways
> > a large margin. His promise to increase profits
> > before dividend to Rs.20,063
> > crores or $4.6b is twice or trice more than any
> > other Railway in the world.
> > This he didn’t achieve by increasing freight
> tariff
> > and passenger fares but
> > actually reducing it when all in put costs was
> > escalating like petroleum
> > prices.
> >
> >
> >
> > In his 2007-2008 railway budget he talks about the
> > following
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. Manufacture of new design wagons by Wagon
> > Manufacturers
> >
> > 2. Provision of cushioned seats in unreserved
> > passenger coaches
> >
> > 3. Provision of additional ordinary general
> coaches
> >
> > 4. Special coaches for handicapped passengers
> >
> > 5. Introduction of Vendors’ Coaches
> >
> > 6. Provision of Hand held Computer Terminals for
> TTE
> >
> > 7. Increase in capacity of passenger coaches (he
> > mentions innovation and design
> > in this section)
> >
> > 8. Passenger Amenities at Stations
> >
> > 9. Cleanliness Year- 2007
> >
> > 10. Construction of High Speed Passenger Corridor
> >
> > 11. Suburban Services
> >
> >
> >
> > these are few things Lalu mentions in his speech.
> I
> > think that if we read between the lines
> > from Lalu’s budget speech there is a lot of scope
> > for design
> > intervention.
> >
> >
> >
> > I wonder how much thinking
> > was done in terms of implementing this master
> plan.
> > In my opinion it is an ambitious frame work
> > involving a lot of money, and once completed this
> > project will affect the lives
> > (the experience) of ordinary people using the
> > railways for quite long time. I
> > am wondering how much importance government is
> going
> > to give to Design (designing
> > products and services) in retrospect with the
> design
> > policy in place. How feasible
> > is it for the Indian design community and the
> Design
> > associations’ mediating at
> > this stage and help government build a better
> > railway system?
> >
> >
> >
> > I think this is a great opportunity for the Indian
> > Design community to get involved
> > and contribute...J
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks and regards,
> >
> > sisirnats.s
> >
> > DJAD 2005
> >
> > Industrial Design
> >
> > Currently Student at Umea Institute of Design,
> > Sweden.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.indianra ilways.gov. in/ ( you can
> > read the budget highlights here)
> >
> > Speech of Shri Lalu Prasad
> >
> > Introducing the Railway Budget 2007-2008
> >
> > On 26th February 2007
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr Speaker Sir,
> >
> > Presenting my fourth consecutive Railway Budget, I
> > have a tremendous
> > sense of pride and gratitude. Pride in the fact
> that
> > without imposing
> > undue burden on the common man, the Railways are
> > poised to create
> > history by generating a cash surplus before
> Dividend
> > of Rs 20,000 cr as
> > against Rs 14,700 cr in the previous year. This is
> > the same Railway
> > that defaulted on payment of Dividend and whose
> fund
> > balances dipped to
> > Rs 359 cr in 2001. I express heartfelt gratitude
> > towards 14 lakh
> > railway employees who in the face of stiff
> > competition have conquered
>
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