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Re: [designindia] Letter from Dr. Koshy- NDP

dear ranjan

i full heatedly endorse your proposal. i am with them who brings all design
community together, discuss together
and present a united presentation to our beloved govt. i know it is a
difficult task. bot i be live young people like you, ravi and many others will
take this challenge. people labeled my critic as institutional rivalry. may be
they do
not know the history. unfortunately they do not see the larger problems and
its repercussion on design community and design institutes.

love
nadkarni

Ranjan MP <ranjanmp@...> wrote:
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Dear friends

I am surprised and quite shocked to see some of the recent developments
on the Design Policy and the Chartered Society of Design as well as the
long long pending national Design Council. When was the committee formed
and notified to frame and finalise the action plans for the National
Design Policy and why is there no transparancy in the process of
selection and inclusion of members in this committee? If we proceed with
this "indecent haste" as Prof Ravi J Matthai , would I am sure have call
these ministrations, we will surely end up in the wrong place and
certainly not where we all would want to be with reference to Design in
India and the Design with India initiatives that we launched in New
Delhi last year. I had missed many many mails these last few days since
my incoming mails from DesignIndia were being bounced by the NID server
and Yahoo too had me on their blocked list from all the bouncing, but I
have now read all the missed 74 mails and need to make this call.

Can we step back and moment and ponder? Do we have the time and the
inclination for this?

Great Institutes and Initiatives have been humbled and are ruined by
lofty claims of politicians and poor application when it comes to
action. Deepankar talked of 'Soul" and the rest of us seem to be looking
at the "Body"!! Why do we support the closed door meetings in Delhi and
endorse these moves without asking for a proper representation of the
design community in these matters? Can we have the minutes of the
meetings of the 14th March and 26th April 2007 ans well as the action
points mentioned in Dr Koshy's mail to Sudhir that is quoted below? With
these minutes available to all of us I am sure the design community on
this list will be able to to provide a much better guidance to the
Government particularly on matters of implementation of the National
Design Policy and the formation of the National Design Council. Now, why
is CII the only agency working on this matter?

We are I believe entering an age of transparency. Believe me, there are
other ways of doing things and I had hoped that the design community
could show the way. Do look at the current issue of the WIRED magazine
and see the insights that are being shared about the virtues of
transparancy, they call it Radical Transparancy. The closed door way is
out and the "Get Naked....and Rule the World" is their slogan, see for
yourself the titilating image of the girl on the transparent WIRED mag
cover!! The cover story is about "Radical Transparancy" and what it is
doing to Governance and Corporations around the world. (WIRED 15.04 page
134 to 139).
<http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/> see the Girl do a mouse over....
<http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40.html> look at the full
contents and the WIRED 40 for 2007.
<http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html> read the
full story of the current issue!!!
even a commercial magazine knows that full sharing is good for everyone,
when will we ever learn!!

Can I make a constructive suggestion here? Can the Design India list and
the AIDI very quickly nominate or even elect by vote a few
representatives online who can be part of the closed door meetings in
Delhi to represent the design community with the Government if we have
to act in all that haste? We have not done anything for the last 50
years but we must act in the next two days, before the 3rd of May 2007,
amazing. There are other mature and established design societies in
India that represent Graphics, Advertising, Interiors, and many more and
can we get them into the act as well in a concerted manner?

I would love to her from all of you and this is not the time to keep
silent in either greed or in fear, so do speak and be heard. What do you
say Prof Nadkarni? Uday, Poonam, Neelam, Deepankar, Sudhir.....and all
of you out there..... Good luck.

With warm regards

M P Ranjan
from my office at NID
1 May 2007 at 10.20 pm IST

Prof M P Ranjan
Faculty of Design
Head, Centre for Bamboo Initiatives at NID (CFBI-NID)
Chairman, GeoVisualisation Task Group (DST, Govt. of India) (2006-2008)
Faculty Member on Governing Council (2003 - 2005)
National Institute of Design
Paldi
Ahmedabad 380 007 India

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gautam patel wrote:
>
> Dear Mr Koshi
>
> Design policy framework and blue print from Vision 2010 is a well
> prepared document. Designer is always the part of the team parting
> with his/her specialty.
> Admin/Management tool for designers is yet to be sharpening further,
> till than other specialist are welcome.
> My obvious fear may be the outcome of many such SARKARI well prepared
> Policies with best of talent and motives, but think 10 years from now
> when Mr koshi-(and many concern honest individuals) is side lined by
> then joint/deputy/assistant/additinal general secretary---etc-etc-etc
> are the one who actually takes the podiums for non directional progress.
> Take the example of weaver's service centers and design centers that
> were established by Mrs Pupul Jayaker and what state of mess they are
> by now in each state of India. Only Sarkari approach and full of
> Administrative people then once crowded by master craftsmen/women as
> on now offering bribe for receiving awards and daily allowances of
> local and foreign exhibitions/ tours.
> Mrs Pupul jayaker did what best Government could ,extended the
> government support using directly from Indira Ghandhi's PMO.
> As a strong team and multi disciplinary nature of Design field, your
> vision and approach plays the key role. I appreciate your hard work
> and strengths to act for/against wind institutionally and personally.
> My strong suggestion is to involve as many designers and alumni of
> design institute to meet with vision and action of NDP.
> Designers from all fields must come forward to participate and
> contribute positively.
>
> We Believe That Nothing Can Beat the Best.....Now It Is Your Turn..
>
> Gautam Patel
>
>
>
>
> Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...
> <mailto:sudhirelephant%40yahoo.com>> wrote: Please find below a mail
> from Dr Koshy.
> sudhir
>
> Dear Mr Sudhir & Designindia Members / AIDI Members / Alumni
> Association Members / well-wishers,
>
> Let me thank you all for taking the trouble and proactively
> participating in the vigorous sessions at Pune, Bangalore, Delhi,
> Mumbai, Ahmedabad etc. regarding the setting up of CSD and allied
> matters of NDP.
>
> This letter is to keep you all updated about the National Design
> Policy imple! mentation. As you maybe aware, the National Design
> Policy (NDP) was approved by the Cabinet of Government of India on
> 8th February 2007 and the Department of Industrial Policy &
> Promotion (DIPP) has to report back to the Cabinet regarding the
> progress of the policy implementation within three months which
> expires on 7th May 2007. It was in this context I had requested all
> you to respond on different flagged points contained in the NDP. The
> Implementation Committee which has representatives of Ministry of
> Textiles, Ministry of HRD, CII etc. has also Prof L K Das from IIT,
> Delhi apart from me as Member-Secretary at this point with the
> Joint Secretary, Department of Industrial Policy & Promotion (DIPP)
> in Chair. This! committee has in detail discussed in the last two
> meetings held on 14th March and 26th April 2007 the action points
> and a meeting is now fixed for 4th May 2007 for wrapping up the
> current stage.
>
> It is heartening to note that the design Community and allied
> professionals have come together in large numbers in Pune,
> Bangalore, Mumbai, Delhi & Ahmedabad and this is what is required.
> Many are from NID and therefore on another note, may I request you
> to go forward and set up NID Alumni Chapters in these cities
> urgently. Shri Akhil Sahai (sahai@... <mailto:sahai%40nid.edu> )
> and Ms Sujitha Nair
> (sujitha@... <mailto:sujitha%40nid.edu>) from NID would coordinate
> the activities of the
> chap! ters in case you would require any assistance. We are also
> planning to bring out an "NID-alumni Bulletin" may be a bi-monthly
> with inputs from all of you.
>
> From some of the copies marked to me, I understand that there is
> earnest desire for consolidating the design education, profession
> and practice which have remained somewhat disparate the last 45
> years of so. This is indeed a very good development. I have also
> seen some of the recommendations which suggest a fear of Government.
> It is important to be practical and note that most of the
> organizations set up specifically for different professions have
> come up with Government funding atleast in the formative years.
> Keeping the autonomy and independence of such organizations is not a
> function of the source of finance but a matter of principles,!
> conscience and courage of those who manage the affiars. I have found
> that it is with the support of the Government that large ideas can
> take shape initially. I am not convinced at this stage that the
> design community (If it was possible for the design community to set
> up such a society and manage its growth without any Government
> support, why has it not been done in the last 45 years or atleast
> after economic liberalization began in the 1990s?) would be in a
> position to set up the necessary infrastructure and scale up in
> phases for either Chartered Society of Designers (CSD) or India
> Design Council (IDC) without Government support. I would be very
> happy if I am proved wrong. It is very crucial that I get clear
> recommendations so that the action paper on CSD can be articulated
> in an appropriate manner in the next crucial meeting at Delhi.
> The action paper of India Design Council is under preparation by the
> CII and it will be examined by the Government appropriately.
> Similarly the paper on education is being jointly prepared by Prof
> LK Das , IIT, Delhi and Director NID so that it could be placed in
> the appropriate context. You all are (the design community)
> contributing to the development of the concept and charter of CSD.
> In other words, each action paper is being prepared by its key
> stakeholders. Once these action papers are ready the Ministry will
> process and put it up for directions from the Competent authorities.
> We plan to have a formal release of NDP and Action Plan towards the
> end of May 2007 or beginning of June 2007.
>
> There were questions as to why and how the interface of
> communications are handled. My communication to the design community
> in this context has been in my capacity as "Member-Secretary of the
> NDP Implementation Committee" constituted by the Government and as
> prime mover of this initiative over the last few years in a
> sustained manner and I quote my statement in the early days as
> Director of NID in the first issue of Design Plus, Vol. 1, March
> 2001 where I had said "NID wants to strengthen its new design
> satellites to act as fountainheads of design movement and provide
> inputs to Government for formulation of National Design Policy while
> working closely with industry apex associations like CII to help
> Indian industry to see design as a strategic tool to build
> competitive advantage". I have! stood by it althrough. I believe,
> it is important to me to take your suggestions and communicate the
> same to Government and keep in touch till something concrete takes
> shape for the Design Community's benefit. I hope considering the
> short time at our disposal the matter really needs to be wrapped up
> in the next 1-2 days. I need to formalize the proposal to the
> Government in this regard by 3rd May 2007 afternoon atleast to
> present in the meeting on 4th May 2007 in Delhi at 11.30 a.m. I
> cannot assure at this stage how things will play out. I am doing my
> best. Please consolidate each meetings' outcomes and forward to
> me /my office with Designindia's specific recommendations if any.
>
> With kind regards & best wishes,
>
> Dr Darlie Koshy
> Director
> National Institute of Design
> Paldi, Ahmedabad 380 007
> Tel: 0091 79 26605241
> Fax: 0091 79 26605242
> Cell: 0091 9898095555
> E-mail: koshy@... <mailto:koshy%40nid.edu> / edoffice@...
> <mailto:edoffice%40nid.edu>
>
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Dear Mr Koshi Design policy framework and blue print from Vision 2010 is a well prepared document. Designer is always the part of the team parting with his/her...
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Dear Ranjan, I agree with your suggestions. As regards to transparency, I think Dr Koshy (as a perceived prime mover of the policy or Member-Secretary of the...
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dear ranjan i full heatedly endorse your proposal. i am with them who brings all design community together, discuss together and present a united presentation...
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