USID2008 - Call for Papers

The
advancement in communication and internet technology are affecting our
life at work as well as at home. Complex social structures are evolving
as a consequence of greater mobility, online social networks and virtual
communities.


There is a need to think about the challenges and opportunities
this advancement is bringing to interface/interaction styles &
design and in creating the entire value chain that impacts the overall
socio-cultural & socio-economic development of our society.


Professionals, Academicians, Researchers and Students are invited
to submit papers addressing various design issues and insights on any
of the listed theme:


THEMES
User Interface design for online social networks and virtual communities
User Interface design and evaluation issues for small screen devices (Mobile
Entertainment & M-Commerce)
Impact of Interactive technologies on work and social life
Practices and opportunities in User Interface design for eLearning
ELIGIBILITY

Open to the professionals, academicians, researchers and students.

IMPORTANT DATES

Registration: July 11th 2008
Submission: August 5th 2008


The papers short listed by the
review panel will be presented during the USID2008 and all accepted
papers will be published in the USID2008 Conference Proceedings. Teams
will be notified of acceptance or rejection the week of August 25 2008.
Authors of selected papers will be expected to attend the conference in
order to present their

submissions to other conference attendees. USID Foundation will also notify the
authors through email or phone.

For Details and Guidelines etc. visit www.usidfoundation.org/usid2008/papers


For Registration send email to usid_callforpapers@... with your
name, institution/organization, and the theme.
 
 
USID Foundation
www.usidfoundation.org (formerly HCI-Hyderabad)


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Dear Sudhir,

I am happy to invite Anjan Chakravorty to join this forum!
Anjan is VC/86/NID

anjan@...

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Dear Navin and Colleagues,

I completely agree with you, Navin.

People behind such Newsletter type of initiatives are generally under the
pressure to collect material for the next issue, sometimes technically
handicapped, lack of manpower and the resource crunch to keep it going, month
after month.

Quite a thankless job, and one should empathize with their tribulations and
limitations.

But I am sure that Dr. Sunil Bhatia has noted the feedback and now there are
many helping hands too, to help with the content, technical and design matters.

Best regards,

Dinesh Katre
------

navin pangti wrote:
>             hi dinesh and designindia
> long time back i tried sending direct feedback to the institute. the
> provocation was that fact that my mailbox was getting flooded by 'too heavy'
> pdf files, coming in as newsletters. plus the idea 'design for all' is
> something that really attracts me a lot.
> i wrote to the institute stating that i can help create 'lighter' pdfs and
> also that the better idea to circulate the newswletter would be to send a
> link instead of the document as that may put off many people. i even created
> a new version of the pdf and sent it to them as sample. i don't remember
> what else i wrote in but i think it was about the fact that the pdf was not
> optimised either for reading on screen or printing on paper. it was
> somewhere in between. i got a thank you mail from them but the pdfs kept
> clogging my mail box. but subsequently the pdfs started getting posted on
> the site and the link started getting circulated. that was a welcome change.
> but the pdf file out there, the latest one, is still 1.05mb while it can
> easily be shipped in a 666kb file size. the images are anyways lossy. the
> screen layout is still not optimised for any kind reader. how would you
> classify 127 pages of unreadable content?
> i had written to them with good intentions as i liked the idea and thought i
> could volunteer but there was no enthusiasm from the other end. some sort of
> dead silence. so i kind of forgot the issue and moved on.. the current
> sequence of posts led me to the site once again. the site, its content, its
> design... does not look promising at all and defies the high level goals
> like 'educate', 'build bridges', 'social inclusion'.. . etc which the
> organisation has set for itself. i firmly beleive that one has to live a
> thought first and then only can one go out to propogate it.
> would end my mail by listing the 'values' as listed on the design for all
> site (as we are talking design, pl ignore the typos:). -
> "Stewerdship: We will always advocate strongly the concpts of Design For All
> and provide a strong platform to those who are advcating and striving to in
> all from different walk of life and making our efforts commercially viable
> and popular.
> Partnership: We will establish the alliances with those who are promoting
> this conepts on technical, finicial and share thier views and critisim of
> individual/institut ion for creating a strong force for establishing Design
> For All.
> Integrity:We will esablish high values and standards with the consultation
> of policy makers or who can influence at manufactureing, marketers, and users
> for high ethical values.
> Resposiveness: We will work on true democratic, but on scientific manners.
> We will focus on future and prepare a condusive enviorment for its
> achievement.
> Excellance: We will create a milestone for others and encoureg them to
> improve as well as quality conscious and respect fellow human being(
> enviorment).. To achieve this noble cause should not adopt a wrong means."
> warm regards
> navin pangti
> idc-vc-93-95
> gurgaon
> _____
> From: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in [mailto: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
]
> On Behalf Of Dinesh Katre
> Sent: 30 June 2008 16:10
> To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
> Subject: Re: [designindia] Re: Newsletter of Design For All
> Dear Saumitri,
> I think your suggestions on the above topic are valid and in the right
> spirit. Your posts are a fist... errr...feast I mean :-))
> As you can see, my response was a general one, not addressed to anybody in
> particular.
> I am in full support of constructive criticism, which is conducted with full
> sensitivity and care to ensure that the person being criticized is not
> demoralized or disgraced in front of the forum members.
> Some times it is better to send such criticism directly to that individual
> instead of sending it to all.
> The bigger point was about "design policing".
> What should we do about it?
> Best regards,
> Dinesh
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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Hi,

Believe me I never intended stirring up a hornet's nest even if I'm glad
there are readers who agree with the 'feedback' I gave and am also glad to
see that there is someone like Mr Navin Pangti who had offered to optimise
the file size. Certainly with no intention of design policing, I appreciate
the volume of effort that Dr Bhatia and team has put into each issue and
respect him for his experience and initiating the Design For All endeavour
in toto.

So let me sum up some of my thinking:

Possibly another alternative to the PDF file could be in the use of HTML
tools including the host of open-source ones like NView .. a search on
Google could fund you many. Plus there are graphic/illustration tools
including Xara which is also available in open-source or free, at least to
Linux users. Likewise, there are a number of image editing and management
tools including GIMP to choose from. I have been quite pleasantly surprised
by the number of alternative solutions since I changed over to a Linux
platform a year ago.

Using appropriate tools and building space in the production schedule, I am
sure a visual editor can do more justice by inserting visuals, in addition
to pictures of authors like:
a) Stylised titles
b) Background effects or colour schemes
c) Diagrammatic illustrations of concepts
d) Illustrative photographs and visuals as appropriate - Several photo
search & share sites are available
e) Special or experimental fonts and typographies

In fact, given this being a design journal, visual designers - graphic, web,
type, photographers, image editors etc. could be invited to experiment with
various elements and that could itself become a theme for each issue.

As for copy and flow of pages, I have learned by rude experience in on-line
documentation, that readership drops drastically after having to scroll down
more that twice per page and if the navigation involves more that one layer
of section pages, i.e. if a reader must go from Contents to one Section,
then a Sub-section... even so when the content runs to so many chapters and
100+ pages, some divisions into sections, summary page layers, etc can help
the reader navigate and eliminate as per their interest.

Paragraphs need to be short and language as condensed as possible. The
readability statistics tools available in MS Word can be a big help, esp.
the reading-ease score. Plus, a standardisation of contents like Interview,
Lead Feature, Column, Article, etc each with a unique identifier helps, as
does alternately divisions into aspects of design e.g. Visual, Product,
Info... Enterprise of the Month, etc. Further, summaries on the contents
page as well as some guidance int he Editor's Note can help.

Design Policing is for those who have the authority and power to draw a line
between what is and what should be. That is not for me. On the other hand, a
lot can be done by policing at the right level, say questioning the thinking
and application of thoughts behind a given design effort, specially by a
collection of sensitive persons.

Lastly, I add that Design for All must also (perhaps more so) reach the
decision-making community that stands to gain from a professional designer's
inputs in product management, marketing, brand-building and communication;
this too across several target industries, like auto, appliances... even
finance and IT (look at the amount being spent on interiors and
communication efforts), hotels, aviation, hotels and travel, the mainstays
of our new economy... After all we need to emphasise that *good design makes
good business*, don't we?

Regards,

Udit Chaudhuri

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hi dinesh and designindia

long time back i tried sending direct feedback to the institute. the
provocation was that fact that my mailbox was getting flooded by 'too heavy'
pdf files, coming in as newsletters. plus the idea 'design for all' is
something that really attracts me a lot.

i wrote to the institute stating that i can help create 'lighter' pdfs and
also that the better idea to circulate the newswletter would be to send a
link instead of the document as that may put off many people. i even created
a new version of the pdf and sent it to them as sample. i don't remember
what else i wrote in but i think it was about the fact that the pdf was not
optimised either for reading on screen or printing on paper. it was
somewhere in between. i got a thank you mail from them but the pdfs kept
clogging my mail box. but subsequently the pdfs started getting posted on
the site and the link started getting circulated. that was a welcome change.
but the pdf file out there, the latest one, is still 1.05mb while it can
easily be shipped in a 666kb file size. the images are anyways lossy. the
screen layout is still not optimised for any kind reader. how would you
classify 127 pages of unreadable content?

i had written to them with good intentions as i liked the idea and thought i
could volunteer but there was no enthusiasm from the other end. some sort of
dead silence. so i kind of forgot the issue and moved on. the current
sequence of posts led me to the site once again. the site, its content, its
design... does not look promising at all and defies the high level goals
like 'educate', 'build bridges', 'social inclusion'... etc which the
organisation has set for itself. i firmly beleive that one has to live a
thought first and then only can one go out to propogate it.

would end my mail by listing the 'values' as listed on the design for all
site (as we are talking design, pl ignore the typos:). -

"Stewerdship: We will always advocate strongly the concpts of Design For All
and provide a strong platform to those who are advcating and striving to in
all from different walk of life and making our efforts commercially viable
and popular.

Partnership: We will establish the alliances with those who are promoting
this conepts on technical, finicial and share thier views and critisim of
individual/institution for creating a strong force for establishing Design
For All.

Integrity:We will esablish high values and standards with the consultation
of policy makers or who can influence at manufactureing,marketers, and users
for high ethical values.

Resposiveness: We will work on true democratic, but on scientific manners.
We will focus on future and prepare a condusive enviorment for its
achievement.

Excellance: We will create a milestone for others and encoureg them to
improve as well as quality conscious and respect fellow human being(
enviorment).To achieve this noble cause should not adopt a wrong means."

warm regards
navin pangti
idc-vc-93-95
gurgaon

   _____

From: designindia@... [mailto:designindia@...]
On Behalf Of Dinesh Katre
Sent: 30 June 2008 16:10
To: designindia@...
Subject: Re: [designindia] Re: Newsletter of Design For All


Dear Saumitri,

I think your suggestions on the above topic are valid and in the right
spirit. Your posts are a fist.. errr...feast I mean :-))

As you can see, my response was a general one, not addressed to anybody in
particular.

I am in full support of constructive criticism, which is conducted with full
sensitivity and care to ensure that the person being criticized is not
demoralized or disgraced in front of the forum members.

Some times it is better to send such criticism directly to that individual
instead of sending it to all.

The bigger point was about "design policing".
What should we do about it?

Best regards,

Dinesh




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Dear Saumitri,
 
I think your suggestions on the above topic are valid and in the right spirit.
Your posts are a fist.. errr...feast I mean :-))
 
As you can see, my response was a general one, not addressed to anybody in
particular.
 
I am in full support of constructive criticism, which is conducted with
full sensitivity and care to ensure that the person being criticized is not
demoralized or disgraced in front of the forum members.
 
Some times it is better to send such criticism directly to that individual
instead of sending it to all.
 
The bigger point was about "design policing".
What should we do about it? 
 
Best regards,
 
Dinesh
---------------

--- On Mon, 30/6/08, saumitri <saumitri_c@...> wrote:

From: saumitri <saumitri_c@...>
Subject: [designindia] Re: Newsletter of Design For All
To: designindia@...
Date: Monday, 30 June, 2008, 2:56 PM






Dinesh, Pudi and others

I find it surprising that any criticism is being taken up negatively on design
forums,
especially since designers are trained to learn and grow from criticism. If you
go through
the mails Bala, Udit or I have sent out, you will notice that it is with utmost
respect that we
have delivered our criticism.

I know ours is a criticism averse society. We take things personally. But it is
important to
understand that the ability to take criticism in the right spirit is also a part
of growth.

Coming to the subject of the newsletter, I do consider it as my right to
criticize when I am
its audience. While we go and evangelize "user is king" to the industry, we need
to apply it
to our own activities. Every thing you put out on a public forum is open to
encouragement
and criticism and you must realise that both of these are well-meaning
activities. Only
encouragement will not take you as far as both of these combined together.

No one in his right mind will not appreciate the efforts of Sunil Bhatia. His
initiative is
certainly noteworthy. And because we have all noted it, have we actually taken
the effort to
criticise it and point out that his newsletter certainly needs improvement in
design and
language. The reason I have chosen to criticize it on this forum ( I can speak
for myself) is
because this newsletter is posted on this forum. If it was sent to me in private
I would
have sent Sunil Bhatia a private criticism. This is a forum where we discuss
ideas and this
particular discussion is in that same spirit. The forum will lose its meaning if
its only an
encouragement forum with no serious criticism.

I also find it sinister that efforts are always made to bring the alibi of lack
of contribution
to argue against criticism. As Udit pointed out, contribution to a newsletter
and criticism
are two completely different topics. I don't necessarily need to contribute to
be able to
read and criticize it. As the audience of a newsletter I have the right to
criticize and
demand more from it. You can't come up with sub-standard stuff and expect the
audience
to remain mute - afterall you design for your audience and not for yourself..
This is the
fundamental principle of any design activity. So it would be good for the
newsletter if you
stop using the alibi of contribution to argue against criticism. It will not
benefit the
newsletter at all.

I have contributed to Dinesh's newsletter too and I have been an ardent critic
of his as well,
all in good faith. I consider Dinesh's comments on the Indian Design Police
Force (IDPF) in
bad taste from a person of his stature and will not comment on it further.
However, I don't
find calling any set of people names as humor, since it then becomes personal.
However I
do respect his opinions and criticism of my stand on the topic.

Assuming that Prof. Das has allowed his name to be used for the newsletter, I
feel that
when someone like Prof. Das gives his name to such a venture, he should also
take care to
ensure its quality. I have been his student and I admire him a lot. It is from
him that I have
learnt to take criticism professionally and NOT personally. Whatever I know
today, a lot of
that credit goes to him and his allowing me to question and critic everything in
design
school. Many years down the line, today, I still use all my learnings from
design school.

In conclusion, the point is not about criticism - but the intent behind it. And
I am sure all
of us who have provided criticism have meant it as constructive feedback.

If the newsletter in its current shape appeals to you all, by all means don't
incorporate the
criticism. But if you guys do find sense in some of the criticism, pls. do go
ahead and try
and improve it.

Best regards,
Saumitri

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

--- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@ ...> wrote:
>
> Dear Indian Design Police Force (IDPF),
>
> Adding a bit of humor to this debate to make it light!
>
> Even I have contributed to this Newsletter, just because I sincerely believe
that we are
deprived of such newsletters or journals in India, and such initiatives must
survive. It is an
essential building block for the progress of Indian design.
>
> Now lets appreciate some things about Sunil Bhatia. You can see that he has
been
consistently, relentlessly publishing his newsletter for last 24 months, may be
not very
well designed, may be not very high standards of quality. But with fair
intentions, positive
and inclusive approach.
>
> How should such initiatives be responded?
>
> With encouragement? If you can&#39;t let me help you with the design of next
issue
type of approach?
>
> Or lets dump this fellow? or lets scrap this newsletter?
>
> If it is so, as a community we are dumping ourselves!
>
> We are denying the right to begin humble, and the time to gradually mature,
and reach
the higher quality in due course.
>
> Bottom line is, IDPF should look at the positive side and help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dinesh Katre
> -----
>
> Pudi Ravi Krishna wrote:
> > Dear Bala, Udit, Saumitri and Dinesh,
> > It has been 2 years since I first volunteered to contribute to the design
> > for all initiative.
> > The website had undergone some measure of changes possible within our
> > limitations of technology..
> > When i didnt find time, I would ask my closest friends to contribute to the
> > design, but
> > so far help hasnt been forthcoming .
> > We are looking at using opensource to make online publishing feasible.
> > There are technical difficulties with hosting which we need to overcome..
> > As good designers I would expect you to recognize the PROBLEMS that hinder
> > better design
> > and work towards addressing that. While you have pointed out the issues, we
> > would appreciate if you could LEAD towards how you can enable good design
> > for someone not really connected to design but a great passion for Universal
> > design. Prof. Lalit Das has been contributing to the editorial while
> > Dr.Bhatia has shown great commitment in collating content from across the
> > world.
> > If you were to devote 2 days of your weekend( it is very demanding I tell
> > you), then sab kuch possible hei.
> > And lastly 'credibility' has to be built by us by periodically contributing
> > to it.
> > It is an initiative which has been active for 2 years now and always open if
> > you want to be a part of it.
> > thanks.
> > warm regards
> > Pudi Ravi Krishna
> > 09989802868
> > Hyderabad
> > 2008/6/27 < designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in >:
> >>
> >> I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible...
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Saumitri
> >>
> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , "A. Balasubramaniam"
> >> <abalasubramaniam@ ....>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
> >> > inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
> >> > email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
> >> > I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
> >> > contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
> >> > the newsletter too tedious to read.
> >> > Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
> >> > whole thing is fishy!!
> >> > A.Balasubramaniam
> >> > NID-'86
> >> > Dean, IILM SChool of Design
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear Friends,
> >> > > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
> >> > caring for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed
> >> > articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed
> >> > from this platform
> >> > > Prof Lalit Das
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
> >> > > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
> >> > Design For All Institute of India
> >> > > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
> >> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > How can something published on design, especially a design-
> >> > dedicated
> >> > > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
> >> > >
> >> > > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
> >> > any
> >> > > visualisation! Very painful.
> >> > >
> >> > > Udit C
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
> >> > > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dear Friends
> >> > > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
> >> > is
> >> > > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
> >> > special
> >> > > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
> >> > > > many regular features
> >> > > >
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> >> > > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
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> >> > > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall. . in for our current
> >> > as
> >> > > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
> >> > link
> >> > > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
> >> > re-
> >> > > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
> >> > > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
> >> > > > suggestions.
> >> > > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
> >> > to
> >> > > > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-
> >> > > > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
> >> > > > Those who are interested in print version they can send their
> >> > > > request to dr_subha@
> >> > > > With regards
> >> > > > Dr. Sunil Bhatia
> >> > > > Design For All Institute Of India
> >> > > > Dr_subha@
> >> > > > www.designforall. in
> >> > > > Tel 91-11-27853470( R)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Messages in this topic (7)
> >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> >> 2.3. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
> >> Posted by: "Dinesh Korjan" korjan@gmail. com dkorjan
> >> Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:01 pm
> >>
> >> to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five
> >> copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this
> >> is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with
> >> just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design
> >> for all'?
> >>
> >> regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad
> >>
> >> saumitri wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I
> >> > am allowed to provide
> >> > feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
> >> > appreciate if my
> >> > comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to
> >> > contribute.
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Messages in this topic (7)
> >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> >> 2.4. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
> >> Posted by: "Uditnarain Chaudhuri" uditnc@gmail. com uditc
> >> Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm
> >>
> >> I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
> >> activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
> >> touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
> >> a movement.
> >>
> >> I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
> >> caring about what others are doing."
> >>
> >> All professionals in every field, design included, are active
> >> networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
> >> your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
> >> even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
> >> number of very relevant topics.
> >>
> >> udit C
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear Friends,
> >> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
> >> for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
> >> study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?
> >>
> >> Prof Lalit Das
> >> >
> >> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
> >> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
> >> Design For All Institute of India
> >> > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
> >> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
> >> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
> >> >
> >> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
> >> > visualisation! Very painful.
> >> >
> >> > Udit C
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > warm regards
> > Pudi Ravi Krishna
> > Hyderabad
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Hi folks
I completely agree with Saumitri. I too didn't find the Indian Design Police
Force (IDPF) funny, even in a lighter vein.There has been no effort from
anyone to throttle freedom of expression of anyone. All the criticism is
definitely intended for improvement of the product.

Today it takes just a click of a mouse to place any e-communication to trash
can. People's attention level and available time are always in short supply.
Therefore any criticism should always be taken as a positive step, � that
the person cared to write about it. The easier option would have been
indifference or click of a mouse...

There is no point defending language skills, lack of help or resource. We
would not expect to get away with such defence from our clients or audience.
So why a different set of rules for us? A humble beginning will remain
humble forever if we are closed to any constructive criticism.

When the newsletter comes out of an impressive sounding organisation and
edited by a reputed professor of a premier institute, naturally one has to
try to live up to certain expectation. A few years ago there was stringent
criticism about a power point presentation of Executive Director of NID
posted on this forum. These are positive steps to make things better. The
peer group criticism is like self criticism towards improving quality.

Let us strive for excellence in whatever we do and not defend mediocrity.

Best regards

Sagarmoy Paul
NID (VC-1981-87)
THOUGHTSCAPE
New Delhi


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Dinesh, Pudi and others

I find it surprising that any criticism is being taken up negatively on design
forums,
especially since designers are trained to learn and grow from criticism. If you
go through
the mails Bala, Udit or I have sent out, you will notice that it is with utmost
respect that we
have delivered our criticism.

I know ours is a criticism averse society. We take things personally. But it is
important to
understand that the ability to take criticism in the right spirit is also a part
of growth.

Coming to the subject of the newsletter, I do consider it as my right to
criticize when I am
its audience. While we go and evangelize "user is king" to the industry, we need
to apply it
to our own activities. Every thing you put out on a public forum is open to
encouragement
and criticism and you must realise that both of these are well-meaning
activities. Only
encouragement will not take you as far as both of these combined together.

No one in his right mind will not appreciate the efforts of Sunil Bhatia. His
initiative is
certainly noteworthy. And because we have all noted it, have we actually taken
the effort to
criticise it and point out that his newsletter certainly needs improvement in
design and
language. The reason I have chosen to criticize it on this forum ( I can speak
for myself) is
because this newsletter is posted on this forum. If it was sent to me in private
I would
have sent Sunil Bhatia a private criticism. This is a forum where we discuss
ideas and this
particular discussion is in that same spirit. The forum will lose its meaning if
its only an
encouragement forum with no serious criticism.

I also find it sinister that efforts are always made to bring the alibi of lack
of contribution
to argue against criticism. As Udit pointed out, contribution to a newsletter
and criticism
are two completely different topics. I don't necessarily need to contribute to
be able to
read and criticize it. As the audience of a newsletter I have the right to
criticize and
demand more from it. You can't come up with sub-standard stuff and expect the
audience
to remain mute - afterall you design for your audience and not for yourself.
This is the
fundamental principle of any design activity. So it would be good for the
newsletter if you
stop using the alibi of contribution to argue against criticism. It will not
benefit the
newsletter at all.

I have contributed to Dinesh's newsletter too and I have been an ardent critic
of his as well,
all in good faith. I consider Dinesh's comments on the Indian Design Police
Force (IDPF) in
bad taste from a person of his stature and will not comment on it further.
However, I don't
find calling any set of people names as humor, since it then becomes personal.
However I
do respect his opinions and criticism of my stand on the topic.

Assuming that Prof. Das has allowed his name to be used for the newsletter, I
feel that
when someone like Prof. Das gives his name to such a venture, he should also
take care to
ensure its quality. I have been his student and I admire him a lot. It is from
him that I have
learnt to take criticism professionally and NOT personally. Whatever I know
today, a lot of
that credit goes to him and his allowing me to question and critic everything in
design
school. Many years down the line, today, I still use all my learnings from
design school.

In conclusion, the point is not about criticism - but the intent behind it. And
I am sure all
of us who have provided criticism have meant it as constructive feedback.

If the newsletter in its current shape appeals to you all, by all means don't
incorporate the
criticism. But if you guys do find sense in some of the criticism, pls. do go
ahead and try
and improve it.

Best regards,
Saumitri

------------------------------------------------------------------




--- In designindia@..., Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Indian Design Police Force (IDPF),
>
> Adding a bit of humor to this debate to make it light!
>
> Even I have contributed to this Newsletter, just because I sincerely believe
that we are
deprived of such newsletters or journals in India, and such initiatives must
survive. It is an
essential building block for the progress of Indian design.
>
> Now lets appreciate some things about Sunil Bhatia. You can see that he has
been
consistently, relentlessly publishing his newsletter for last 24 months, may be
not very
well designed, may be not very high standards of quality. But with fair
intentions, positive
and inclusive approach.
>
> How should such initiatives be responded?
>
> With encouragement?  If you can&#39;t let me help you with the design of next
issue
type of approach?
>
> Or lets dump this fellow? or lets scrap this newsletter?
>
> If it is so, as a community we are dumping ourselves!
>
> We are denying the right to begin humble, and the time to gradually mature,
and reach
the higher quality in due course.
>
> Bottom line is, IDPF should look at the positive side and help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dinesh Katre
> -----
>
> Pudi Ravi Krishna wrote:
> >             Dear Bala, Udit, Saumitri and Dinesh,
> > It has been 2 years since I first volunteered to contribute to the design
> > for all initiative.
> > The website had undergone some measure of changes possible within our
> > limitations of technology..
> > When i didnt find time, I would ask my closest friends to contribute to the
> > design, but
> > so far help hasnt been forthcoming .
> > We are looking at using opensource to make online publishing feasible.
> > There are technical difficulties with hosting which we need to overcome.
> > As good designers I would expect you to recognize the PROBLEMS that hinder
> > better design
> > and work towards addressing that. While you have pointed out the issues, we
> > would appreciate if you could LEAD towards how you can enable good design
> > for someone not really connected to design but a great passion for Universal
> > design. Prof. Lalit Das has been contributing to the editorial while
> > Dr.Bhatia has shown great commitment in collating content from across the
> > world.
> > If you were to devote 2 days of your weekend( it is very demanding I tell
> > you), then sab kuch possible hei.
> > And lastly 'credibility' has to be built by us by periodically contributing
> > to it.
> > It is an initiative which has been active for 2 years now and always open if
> > you want to be a part of it.
> > thanks.
> > warm regards
> > Pudi Ravi Krishna
> > 09989802868
> > Hyderabad
> > 2008/6/27 < designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in >:
> >>
> >> I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible..
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Saumitri
> >>
> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , "A. Balasubramaniam"
> >> <abalasubramaniam@ ....>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
> >> > inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
> >> > email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
> >> > I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
> >> > contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
> >> > the newsletter too tedious to read.
> >> > Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
> >> > whole thing is fishy!!
> >> > A.Balasubramaniam
> >> > NID-'86
> >> > Dean, IILM SChool of Design
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear Friends,
> >> > > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
> >> > caring for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed
> >> > articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed
> >> > from this platform
> >> > > Prof Lalit Das
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
> >> > > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
> >> > Design For All Institute of India
> >> > > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
> >> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > How can something published on design, especially a design-
> >> > dedicated
> >> > > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
> >> > >
> >> > > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
> >> > any
> >> > > visualisation! Very painful.
> >> > >
> >> > > Udit C
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
> >> > > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dear Friends
> >> > > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
> >> > is
> >> > > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
> >> > special
> >> > > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
> >> > > > many regular features
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1. Chairman's Desk: �������������.2
> >> > > > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15
> >> > > > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District
> >> > > > in India Using Universal
> >> > > > Design Concepts
> >> > �����������������..23
> >> > > > 4. Home Modifications and Products for
> >> > > > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43
> >> > > > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67
> >> > > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
> >> > > > President of Aaron Marcus And
> >> > > > Associates,Inc
> >> > > > Mr. Aaron Marcus�������������.73
> >> > > > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87
> >> > > > 9
> >> > Letters:������������������.. 89
> >> > > > 10 Appeal:��������� ��
> >> > �������..92
> >> > > > 11. News: �����������
> >> > �������.101
> >> > > > 12 Program & Events:������ � �����.110
> >> > > > 13 Job Opening:
> >> > ���������������..125
> >> > > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall.. in for our current
> >> > as
> >> > > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
> >> > link
> >> > > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
> >> > re-
> >> > > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
> >> > > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
> >> > > > suggestions.
> >> > > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
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> >> Messages in this topic (7)
> >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> >> 2.3. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
> >>    Posted by: "Dinesh Korjan" korjan@gmail. com dkorjan
> >>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:01 pm
> >>
> >> to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five
> >> copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this
> >> is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with
> >> just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design
> >> for all'?
> >>
> >> regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad
> >>
> >> saumitri wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I
> >> > am allowed to provide
> >> > feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
> >> > appreciate if my
> >> > comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to
> >> > contribute.
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Messages in this topic (7)
> >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> >> 2.4. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
> >>    Posted by: "Uditnarain Chaudhuri" uditnc@gmail. com uditc
> >>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm
> >>
> >> I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
> >> activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
> >> touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
> >>  a movement.
> >>
> >> I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
> >> caring about what others are doing."
> >>
> >> All professionals in every field, design included, are active
> >> networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
> >> your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
> >> even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
> >> number of very relevant topics.
> >>
> >> udit C
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear Friends,
> >> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
> >> for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
> >> study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?
> >>
> >> Prof Lalit Das
> >> >
> >> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
> >> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
> >> Design For All Institute of India
> >> > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
> >> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
> >> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
> >> >
> >> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
> >> > visualisation! Very painful.
> >> >
> >> > Udit C
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > warm regards
> > Pudi Ravi Krishna
> > Hyderabad
> > 09989802868
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Hello All,

Just joined this group recently and want to take this opportunity to
introduce myself.

I (Chaitanya Kejriwal) run a packaging company specializing in printed
folding cartons called Parksons Packaging Ltd. (www.parksonspackaging.com
<http://www.parksonspackaging.com/> ).
Our company supplies packaging to brand leaders across industry segments -
Food & Beverages, FMCG, Personal Care, Pharmaceutical, etc.

I have always been keenly interested in design and believe that India has
great potential. Towards this end, am in the process of setting up a product
and packaging design & innovation center in Pune as part of our company's
ongoing initiative to make design a key guiding force in our business.

Am currently in the process of looking for a team of designers and
innovators keen to push the envelope - to think outside the box - an
opportunity to combine the benefits of an entrepreneurial set up and an
established manufacturing set up - to create a center that not only develops
new and path breaking ideas but ensures they become a reality and a complete
business.

Would love to interact and discuss with designers from Pune or anyplace else
interested to know more. I can be reached at chaitanya@...

Regards,

Chaitanya Kejriwal
Director
Parksons Packaging Ltd.


   _____

From: designindia@... [mailto:designindia@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:55 PM
To: designindia@...
Subject: [designindia] File - introduction on design-india




hi,

welcome to design india egroup. I am sudhir sharma and i moderate this
group.
I was in NID during 1983-1989 time and then started elephant design with
four other graduates.

It will be very nice if u can post a brief introduction of yr self on the
group as yr first message. Where are u, what are u doing, where did u study
and any issues u may want to disscuss. this will help others and friends to
know that u are there and to know u.

Also chk out pictures, update yr address in database phonebook as well as
take part in Polls. You have a choice of not recieving mails in yr mailbox
and chk them online...if u need any help on this count let me know.

the membership to this group is through invitation only...only u can invite
yr friend, or whomever u think worthy of being on a professional designers
group. DO send me a mail if you want someone to be invited on the group.

thank you once again and keep posting messages.

regards
sudhir sharma






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Congratulations Pankaj for the  successful inauguration of the "Industrial
Innovation� and Design Cell" on the 26th June 08 - a collaborative initiative by
the MCCIA� and the Pune Design Foundation.
It does seem interesting development for design community.
Prakash Unakal
IDC 89-91

"Intentions and Convictions make all the difference. Being mindful and attentive
to your inner state is key to making outward changes that matter and last.
Unconscious intentions become actions that, unchecked, become unhealthy habits
and Convictions are truth you have made yours"


--- On Mon, 6/30/08, subramaniam sundar <subramaniam.sundar@...> wrote:
From: subramaniam sundar <subramaniam.sundar@...>
Subject: Re: [designindia] Inaug - Industrial Innovation and Design Cell
To: designindia@...
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 10:48 AM











             Dear Pankaj



It is extremely heartening to hear of this. Wish you all the best.



regards

Sundar

PD NID 1984



On 6/28/08, Pankaj Sapkal <pankaj.sapkal@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

>   This is to report the successful inauguration of the "Industrial

> Innovation

> and Design Cell" on the 26th June 08 - a collaborative initiative by the

> MCCIA and the Pune Design Foundation.

>

> ------------ ----

>

> The Inaugural event was a workshop targeted at the the Electronics

> Industry,

> held at the ICC towers, Pune. The chief guest was Mr. Sohan Chordia of GIC

> -

> a senior and pioneering industrialist from the electronics sector. T he

> workshop was also voluntarily attended by veteran academician Dr. Kolaskar

> -

> displaying a commendable seriousness in his endeavour to enter the field of

> design education.

> Attendees consisted of primarily of senior and upcoming electronics

> manufacturers, electronics professionals of various types, as well as

> Design

> professionals, design faculty and students.

>

> The event was covered by the press, and it was quite heartening to see the

> precise purpose of the workshop being fulfilled - manufacturers showed an

> active interest in interacting with designers, asking for advice from the

> design community and distinctly displaying a desire to engage the designers

> in professional projects. The students also expressed a good satisfaction

> at

> being able to get such valuable (and rare) exposure from so many prominent

> designers, as well as acquiring a first hand experience of seeing senior

> deisgners interact with the electronics industry and address their voiced

> needs. (This time a lot of students could not turn up since this is

> vacation

> time - however, such events are obviously invaluable to any attending

> students, subtly equipping them to interact precisely and confidently with

> the manufacturing industry representatives. Greater attendance by students

> is highly recommended in any forthcoming design workshops for the

> industry).

>

> Presentations by all four design speakers (Satish Gokhale from Design

> Directions, Bala Mahajan from Ticket Design, Prakash Khanzhode from Onio

> Design, Nachiket Thakur from Mahindra Composites) were superlative and

> clearly made an impression on the attendees from the electronics industry.

>

> Our next workshop will be held in approximately the first week of Aug -

> kindly send in your expression of interest for being a design speaker for

> the forthcoming InnoCell workshops of 2008.

> We already have some speakers and would appreciate more proposals for the

> same. Do bear in mind that we like to present specialty topics at the

> workshops, so if you have any such topic that you would like to speak about

> at an InnoCell workshop in Pune, kindly let me know. It goes without saying

> that speakers who are not from Pune Design Foundation are welcome, as well.

>

> I would like to thank all the members of the Pune Design Foundation (and

> the

> MCCIA) who actively helped to make this first event successful - whether

> through direct participation, or by providing a proactive moral support.

>

> Thank you,

>

> - Pankaj Sapkal

> Founder-Member, Pune Design Foundation

> Coordinator - InnoCell Initiative

> ex-IDC

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Pankaj

It is extremely heartening to hear of this. Wish you all the best.

regards
Sundar
PD NID 1984


On 6/28/08, Pankaj Sapkal <pankaj.sapkal@...> wrote:
>
>   This is to report the successful inauguration of the "Industrial
> Innovation
> and Design Cell" on the 26th June 08 - a collaborative initiative by the
> MCCIA and the Pune Design Foundation.
>
> ----------------
>
> The Inaugural event was a workshop targeted at the the Electronics
> Industry,
> held at the ICC towers, Pune. The chief guest was Mr. Sohan Chordia of GIC
> -
> a senior and pioneering industrialist from the electronics sector. T he
> workshop was also voluntarily attended by veteran academician Dr. Kolaskar
> -
> displaying a commendable seriousness in his endeavour to enter the field of
> design education.
> Attendees consisted of primarily of senior and upcoming electronics
> manufacturers, electronics professionals of various types, as well as
> Design
> professionals, design faculty and students.
>
> The event was covered by the press, and it was quite heartening to see the
> precise purpose of the workshop being fulfilled - manufacturers showed an
> active interest in interacting with designers, asking for advice from the
> design community and distinctly displaying a desire to engage the designers
> in professional projects. The students also expressed a good satisfaction
> at
> being able to get such valuable (and rare) exposure from so many prominent
> designers, as well as acquiring a first hand experience of seeing senior
> deisgners interact with the electronics industry and address their voiced
> needs. (This time a lot of students could not turn up since this is
> vacation
> time - however, such events are obviously invaluable to any attending
> students, subtly equipping them to interact precisely and confidently with
> the manufacturing industry representatives. Greater attendance by students
> is highly recommended in any forthcoming design workshops for the
> industry).
>
> Presentations by all four design speakers (Satish Gokhale from Design
> Directions, Bala Mahajan from Ticket Design, Prakash Khanzhode from Onio
> Design, Nachiket Thakur from Mahindra Composites) were superlative and
> clearly made an impression on the attendees from the electronics industry.
>
> Our next workshop will be held in approximately the first week of Aug -
> kindly send in your expression of interest for being a design speaker for
> the forthcoming InnoCell workshops of 2008.
> We already have some speakers and would appreciate more proposals for the
> same. Do bear in mind that we like to present specialty topics at the
> workshops, so if you have any such topic that you would like to speak about
> at an InnoCell workshop in Pune, kindly let me know. It goes without saying
> that speakers who are not from Pune Design Foundation are welcome, as well.
>
> I would like to thank all the members of the Pune Design Foundation (and
> the
> MCCIA) who actively helped to make this first event successful - whether
> through direct participation, or by providing a proactive moral support.
>
> Thank you,
>
> - Pankaj Sapkal
> Founder-Member, Pune Design Foundation
> Coordinator - InnoCell Initiative
> ex-IDC
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Hi Kaustav,
nice comprehensive research work about Indian Design Trend...i wish it will be
nice asset for all of us.
 
santosh

--- On Sat, 28/6/08, kaustav sen <kaustavsengupta@...> wrote:

From: kaustav sen <kaustavsengupta@...>
Subject: [designindia] Trend forecasting in India
To: designindia@...
Date: Saturday, 28 June, 2008, 2:01 PM








Hi,
This is an article published in Images BoF about the trend forecasting scenario
in India…a bit oldy...
Though my experience is different… at Indian fairs we dont exhibit trend
prediction for India but copy some exhisting trend report s(eg. wgsn or
promotsyl... ahh not the effective one's like "trend union" or "here & there"
though)and display our "ability" to copy as close as possible...in textile,
leather, knits or any other materials... the garment trade fairs are pathetic...
In India we actually have three groups of people…the Indian, the Bharatiya &
the Confused… if we fix the “sample group” then the problem comes in
respect of 3 Cs…the Climate, Culture & Compatibility… But, interestingly,
the Indian youth segment seems much synchronized.
Any Comments/ contribution?
U can chk my blog: http://ingene. blogspot. com
Regards,
Kaustav
NIFT
Chennai
 
FORECASTING INDIA
What are the fashion forecasting sources in India? Can Indian clothing and
textile manufacturers use forecasts made by international agencies? Or does the
industry require a forecasting cell of its own? In today’s global village, as
the meaning of forecasts itself changes, Shweta Taneja researches with the
industry to understand the forecasting needs of the domestic industry at all
levels.
 
Fashion forecasting is an integral requirement for any successful business in
the apparel industry. With long lead times in processing a piece of clothing
from fibre to a finished product, it is important for a business to be able to
anticipate the needs of the consumers.
 
Whether instinctively or through extensive research, every apparel or textile
manufacturer, designer and brand in India tries to understand the requirement of
their customers well in advance before planning their next season’s range. All
segments of the Indian fashion and textile industry today are in some way
involved in forecasting — either by working on an individualised forecast
after researching with their consumers or by adapting these from international
counterparts.
 
Problematic existing fragments
There are some Indian attempts to impart forecasting information. The business
media plays an important role in this regard. Magazines, either individually-
owned or those belonging to councils, cooperatives of various segments in the
industry, take out seasonal forecasts related to their readers. Individual
efforts from magazines research the markets and interpret the trends observed in
a conclusive forecast.
 
Then there are various apparel and textile related trade fairs which display
trends in their specific industries. For example, Tex Style India, held in New
Delhi by the ministry of textiles. It forecasts trends in yarns, fabrics,
blends, furnishings, trims, and accessories (all inclusive in textiles). Some of
its activities:
 
•           Trend Forum – Season’s forecast and trends of top
designers
•           Fabric Folio - The innovations, concepts, and
developments culled from the participating companies and other production
centers
 
HeimTextil India, specialises in upholstery fabrics. Organised by Messe
Frankfurt Trade Fairs India Pvt Ltd, it screens a Lifestyle Trend Show for
upholstery fabrics and also holds a seminar on trends by leading international
agencies.
 
Conferences and seminars held by associations like the Textile Association, CII,
CMAI, etc give a strong indication on the latest innovations, technologies, and
marketing strategies. Individual companies have their own marketing and consumer
research teams who analyse the market in depth to predict the future needs.
 
But most of these sources are somewhat limited in their scope —
geographically, specific parts of the supply chain, special projects, specific
company or clients. There is no cohesiveness or coordination among any for a
complete forecast. All forecasts have a Western outlook and rarely explore
Indian developments in terms of consumer trends, Indian wear, latest
technologies, latest fabrics, and latest retail trends.
 
Every segment of the supply chain in the industry has specific requirement. The
information gaps are vividly seen once one explores the industry part-by-part in
segments.
Textile industry
Most of the textile units based in India are small, so they are dependent for
direction on their clients. Simran Singh, an industry expert says, “Textile
industry develops (fabrics) only on manufacturer’s demand. Manufacturers
include brands, people who produce garments for other brands and retailer’s
in-house.” In this way, they indirectly depend on the manufacturer’s trends
research. There are some big mills that develop their own ranges and sell them
both in India and abroad. These use both international forecasts and their own
consumer analysis. The segment directly or indirectly follows the trends set in
various trade fairs abroad. The information they require:
 
•Information of what is latest in fabric development — both internationally
and Indian
•The themes the manufacturers will be working on in the next season
•Changing consumer trends; consumer response as per fabrics
•Global developments and trends in fabrics
•What the trade fairs and ramp collections show
•Global forecasts with Indian sensibilities (especially climate, culture and
traditional designs kept in mind). Latest trends in design and marketing
strategies.
 
Manufacturers/ brands
The bigger retail brands in India like Westside, Wills Sport, etc outsource
their designs by hiring foreign design consultants. The design team in India is
hired to shape the collection keeping Indian bodies and sensibilities in mind.
Or, the brand buys one of the European forecasts and visits the main fairs like
Premiere Vision twice a year. But the information they get is Euro-centric which
cannot be applied to India completely. So for the next range, they add in
information gained from consumer response and sales figures.
 
For example, retail brand W of TCNS Clothing claims a highly researched and
consumer centric design development process with assistance from Jane Neves, a
UK based designer. More extensively researched, Coimbatore-based KG Denim has a
‘Fashion Trend Management Group’ which looks at denim trends by following
international designers and trends. It is a vertically integrated company for
denims wears which has a brand name by the name Trigger. “We prepare our
forecasts by consulting international forecasts like WSGN and trend magazines
like View. We derive the moods/themes from these international references. The
forecasts include the general consumer wants, the market mood, the colours in
vogue, the fabrics, silhouettes, looks, themes, highlights, trims,
embellishments and accessories. It is a fairly detailed and practical forecast
to be used by the designers for inspiration for a collection,” say Nupur
Gupta, ex-buyer
 
Raymond Be:.
Need for a forecasting centre?
Though information on forecasting is found in the industry in bits and pieces,
there is no single organisation which gives it in a comprehensive, holistic and
logical way. There is also no coordination between various segments of the
industry, which adds to the disorganised structure of the industry.
 
A single broad fashion direction is essential for each season as the consumer
will be able to see and want to become part of it. “What becomes important is
to interpret the international forecast to suit Indian sensibilities. Alongside,
it is important is to keep in view that the Indian fashion scenario is very
individualistic and diverse, there is a coexistence of several different
things/trends/ themes. We should not in the process kill this,” says Asha
Baxi, dean of fashion department at NIFT, New Delhi. For a trend to work it has
to be visible, it has to start working at the supply chain. The consumer should
be able to feel the trends distinctly. This will lead to more sales and lesser
stocks for the industry.
 
There is a need for a forum for all the segments of the industry to get
together, but the onus of a forecast should lie with a forecasting agency. “I
think you should have the industry involved because you need their point of
view. Let us get the ‘appropriate’ representatives of these industries. We
don’t need them all, but some selected influential leaders. Once they lead and
come to a concrete conclusion, the rest will follow,” continues Baxi. Experts
at KSA-Technopak believe that the agency that wants to become successful should
service organised retailers, brands and consumers.
 
So what the industry requires is not only a forecasting centre, but a whole
lifestyle forecasting centre. Instead of concentrating only on clothing and
textiles, this agency should also forecast colours for the season across
industries (for durables and non-durables) , provide an information on the
overall view of the consumer, predict what their wants will be and define the
coming changes in their lifestyles – an amalgamation of intensive research
cutting across the segments of the supply chain to predict trends.
 
Creating Indian forecasts
Broad themes and trends of an Indian fashion season requirement are generally
the same as the world over. This means that international forecasts can be
reinterpreted according to Indian sensibilities and presented in an Indian
context. But one needs to include the requirements of Indian consumers keeping
in mind weather changes, culture, social and economical factors. If these key
factors are not included, the range developed will be global in trends and might
not appeal to regional consumers at all.
 
For colour information
The trend of colours follows three divisions — fashion colours, Indian
interpretations and classic colours. Forecast 18-24 months before the actual
season, colour forecasts are used by the textile industry while developing
fabrics. Fashion colours are the seasonal colours which change according to the
trends. The classic colours are the schemes which remain the same with very
subtle differences season to season (For example black and dark blue in trousers
for men). For a better judgment, combine elements for these multiple sources and
pick up the common colours.
 
International Sources
•Influential fashion consumer magazines: Vogue, Elle, etc.
•Hollywood movies have a direct impact on the Indian audience as well, so keep
a track of the flashes of colours and themes in the famous ones.
•As Indian teenagers aspire to be like their American counterpart it is good
to keep track of the trends coming in youth cultures of the US and Europe.
•Check out trade magazines for guidelines and what are the long-term trends:
W, WWD, etc (also for new technologies, revivals coming the way of fashion.
•Check out the Net: fashion websites, e-zines, websites of directional/
designer boutiques, journals on fashion, etc.
•Forecasting agencies and coorperatives of fabrics which do extensive research
on this.
Domestic sources
•Sales information of the major textile companies to tell which colours were
preferred last season.
•Environment: Colours are accepted gradually over seasons. Generally, they
change shades season to season. Even conservatives change in their shades. To
predict the colour coming the next season, one can look at the new colours shown
in the environment around us. This gauges which colour is being repeatedly seen
(in a positive context) by the consumer.
•In media: What colours are the idols wearing; magazines, colour schemes
featured in films with exotic locales, set in stylish time periods, or featuring
distinctive costuming
•Highlight colours for the current season: They will generally be converted
into solids two seasons hence.
•New colours in other lifestyle product categories: cars, upholstery, wall
paints, interiors. Or new colour directions introduced by some high profile
industry (along with promotion as a theme) like accessories, make-up, etc.
•Watch consumers in their natural habitat track their changing preferences
•The same colour trend present in multiple formats generally gives a hint of a
strong colour trend.
•New developments: Because colour largely depends on the fabric, for colour
forecasts, one has to keep in touch with new developments in fabric, fibre, and
yarn. New technologies many a times spark new colour cycles. Constantly check
invention of a new fabric/yarn/ fibre or a new dye, couture collections of
designers who sometimes set new trends by introducing new colours or designs
into media’s attention.
For information on textiles
Done 6-12 months ahead of the selling season in India, textile development for
the same season in Europe/US is at least 12-18 months ahead. So, Indian apparel
manufacturers can go abroad, check out the fairs and the trends seen in the
fairs, bring samples to textile mills for manufacturing and be ready with the
goods in the same season as anyone abroad. But the key problem here is that
there is a large sector of Indian textiles which is different and is not
accounted for in these fairs. So most of the Indian manufacturers depend on
their sourcing and designing skills to find the right Indian fabrics, when they
need it.
 
International sources
•Textile trade magazines — European, Asian, and American
•International trade fairs — especially famous ones like France’s Premiere
Vision (where most of the Indian manufacturers go for picking up trends in
fabrics)
•Developments and research being done by famous fibre/yarn/fabric
manufacturers, developers, and associations — like DuPont, Cotton Inc (for
cotton fabrics)
•What fabrics are internationally claimed avant-garde designers are using —
like Galliano, Alexander McQueen, etc. (Most of them get fabrics developed
especially for the couture shows and have a pulse on the newest innovations
Domestic sources
 
•Trade organisations: Mainly responsible for the development of the clusters
they represent. It is a good idea to go to such organisations and look at their
resource centres rather than visit individual mills. The associations are
divided according to the fabric they produce. They are aware of the new
technologies, innovations, new researches, etc of that specific fabric. For
example, Association of Corporations and Apex Societies of Handloom (ACASH);
National Handloom Development Corporation (NHDC), All Indian Cooperation
Spinning Mills, NTC (National Textile Cooperation) , The Textile Association,
associations made by the Ministry of Textiles, etc.
 
•Check out the researches of the influencers and innovators of textile: They
have cash-rich R&D teams who develop new types of fabrics. As these players
supply to a majority of key manufacturers and brands, they play an important
role in disseminating trends and innovations into the marketplace. They also
take their trends directly from the international forecasts and have design
teams to reinterpret them. So it is a good idea to see what they are churning
out. Some of the biggies of our industry: Raymonds Ltd, Arvind Mills, Pantaloon
(Textile Division), Reliance, Tata Mills, Birla VXL.
 
•Institutions & resource centres: The fashion and textile institutes in India
maintain resource libraries which display the latest innovations in fabrics both
by students and the industry. It is a good source to find out more about the new
kinds of fabrics springing up. Institutions like NIFT, NID, and Pearl Academy
even divide the fabrics according to seasonal thematic approaches. It is also
important to keep in the know of what textile students are designing. Many a
times, their creative outlook is a fresh look at the fabric and hence spark off
a thematic idea in the forecaster’s mind.
 
•           Look at new developments in fabrics: Which traditional
fabrics will they replace? What fabrics will be enhanced by pairing with them?
What consumer audience is likely to see the value-added benefits in these
developmental fabrics and be willing to pay more for those benefits?
 
•           Check out trade magazines: The easiest and the most
comprehensive source. Almost every association takes out one. There are some
that cover the Asian markets, and then some which focus only on a specific fibre
and innovations in that industry. The media is a good way of know what is the
latest happenings in the textile industry. It is also a good way of finding out
the people or corporations who are making a difference and are the innovators of
the industry.
For information on apparel
In India, the apparel collection is made by the brand and then offered to
retailers. For this, there is a need for a forecast to try and predict what the
retailer (and finally the consumer) might want. The general themes of clothing
continue from the fabrics and colour forecasts. What is covered along with these
are the silhouettes, the fabrics used for each kind of story, and the
embellishments and trims on the clothing.
 
International sources
•What the international fashion press is talking about: What’s hot, who’s
the topic of discussion, what trends are seen in the market/streets, etc.
 
•Shows and presentations: Couture shows (generally show avant-garde designs;
experiments of the designers); Deluxe RTW (prêt-a-porter designer) – shows by
designer houses; collections kept in designer boutiques and specialty stores
(manufactured by the design house); RTW/Porte de Versailles (prêt-a-porter
bridge) designs placed by retailers for their stores; trade shows
 
Indian sources
•Haute couture shows: Couture is directional for fashion themes, references to
designers and eras of the fashion past, ethnic influences, silhouettes, fabrics
and colors. Top designers like Suneet Varma, Ritu Kumar, Tarun Tahiliani, hold
exclusive shows where they show one-of-a-kind collections for their exclusive
clients. These clients (film stars, icons, hi-profile people) are aspired by the
Indian consumer and lead to dissemination of these innovations.
 
•The India Fashion Week: Trends reported in the press often begin here when
editors notice underlying similarities across designers’ collections, or when
a designer presents an outstanding collection with a unifying theme, or when an
item starts in many shows and becomes newsworthy. They are shown a season before
to give a lead-time for order placements.
 
•Apparel trade fairs: They are for all categories of apparel wear,
accessories, and niches (ecologically conscious vendors, handmade, etc). Centred
on selling fashion, they also showcase new design talent for specific product
categories, price points and target audiences. These shows are especially
important for independent stores because they offer a chance to see many lines
and select merchandise that differentiates the independents from the large
departmental store chains. They also hold fashion shows of some brands’ latest
collections. These are a good line up on the direction the brands are taking
that season.
 
•Libraries and resources: Industry trade associations and educational
institutes maintain fabric libraries for fashion research and present updates
for apparel executives. These libraries are a huge source of all the
developments and innovations presented by the members of the association for a
particular season. Informed sources in the library can also tell you on what is
selling.
 
•Keeping track of the world around: To know what will happen in the future, it
is important to know what is happening in the present. Things like new travel
destinations that merge new sights and experiences or involve new concepts in
the hospitality industry. Trends in interior design and architecture; industrial
design, graphic design and package design because these fields often foreshadow
new visual directions. Political, social and economical changes — how it will
impact consumer tastes and spending; what is new — electronic gadgets,
computer applications and breakthrough technologies.
 
•Change agents: Keep track of innovators (adventurers) and group leaders
(lifestyles of the rich and famous; celebrities) who affect the consumers. Some
fashion innovators in India: movie stars, designers, high profile individuals
from business, art and fashion backgrounds, high fashion stores and avant-garde
boutiques are willing to present new fashion innovations based on their own
judgment and clientele.
 
• Youth passions: Youth have the time and energy to indulge into innovations
in fashion. They influence some designers, most apparel for casualwear and are
directional to other age groups and categories. For apparel categories like
juniors, contemporary and denim, virtually all trends derive from street looks.
Some of the likely places where an emerging trend can be spotted: Learning
centres: school, colleges, and libraries; Hang outs for the young: supermarkets,
bowling alleys, bars, discotheques, coffee houses cafes, clubs, music youth
haunts; transportation hubs: subways, bus stands, stations; street fashion (or
youthful experimentation) : they take available clothing sources and mix,
restyle, and customise items in individualistic and expressive ways.
 
•Market places: Good for observing the general direction in which consumers
are going. Check what’s new, what's selling like hot cake; what's the general
mood, what's selling, latest styles of visual merchandising in store displays,
combination of clothing on mannequins
 
•Popular culture trends: Indians are especially affected by the trends seen in
popular media — television, movies, etc. Be it celebrity gossip or clothing
scandal, Indians love all gossip. Many a trend and fad starts from a hit movie,
a high-TRP serial, or a catchy music video. This is because fashion is linked in
Indian mindsets with celebrities, media, and hi-society.
 

A hit movie — especially popular with the youth — look for clothing styles,
colours, attitudes, accessories, hairstyles, make-up, elements which can become
fads and can be converted into trends (like Dil Chahta Hai).
 
•Trends in a movie (still in production) getting a lot of media attention —
what is it all about, who is designing clothing for it.
 
•Movies set in a different era — more than anything, for providing
inspiration to designers.
 
•Serials which are trendsetters (like Kyunki Saas, Jassi, etc) and get a lot
of media attention.
 
•Newspaper supplements, magazines (both business and leisure) — what topics
are being mentioned, what are the concerns of the people, etc.
 
•Music videos — the techniques with which they are making videos,
stylisation of the video, etc.
 
•Youth music channels — everything from graphics, VJs stylisation, to
backgrounds in programmes.
 
•Keep track of innovations: An innovation always starts from an individual (a
person or a group). It can be anything from the earrings worn in a new video, a
hit movie, retro revival on runway by designers. Some new invention, an unusual
colour range, a garment detail or a mood expressed in a distinctive style.
Innovative ideas are discovered by fashion scouts (journalists, fashion
directors, forecasters, and merchants) and moved from source to marketplace by
tastemakers (celebrities, models, fashion stylists, fashion leaders) who
increase the visibility of the innovation and make it acceptable to more
consumers.
 
The forecast exercise was undertaken keeping in mind the fabric forecast
provided by Invista. WGSN and Promostyl global forecast were studied and
analysed in relation to fabrics. Keeping in mind the Indian sensibilities and
market dynamics, relevant data was compiled to arrive at the Trend Forecast for
Spring/Summer '06 and Autumn/Winter '06-'07. The forecast has been made keeping
in mind the elements of fabric, colour and styling. Courtesy: Munch Internal
Forecast Cell, Invista Fabric Forecast, World Global Style Network, Promostyl,
Getty Images, Corbis, First View, www.google.com (Report on 'Rendezvous 2005' on
pg 196).

 
 
Kaustav SenGupta
Assistant Professor & Centre Coordinator
Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories
National Institute of Fashion technology
NIFT Campus
Chennai- Tamilnadu
India
&
Internal Design Consultant (IDC)
SGSY Project Design Studio- Govt. of India

--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:

From: Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: RE: [designindia] Re: Newsletter of Design For All
To: "pudiravi@gmail. com" <pudiravi@gmail. com>
Cc: "designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in" <designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in>
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 12:09 AM

Dear Indian Design Police Force (IDPF),

Adding a bit of humor to this debate to make it light!

Even I have contributed to this Newsletter, just because I sincerely believe
that we are deprived of such newsletters or journals in India, and such
initiatives must survive. It is an essential building block for the progress of
Indian design.

Now lets appreciate some things about Sunil Bhatia. You can see that he has been
consistently, relentlessly publishing his newsletter for last 24 months, may be
not very well designed, may be not very high standards of quality. But with fair
intentions, positive and inclusive approach.

How should such initiatives be responded?

With encouragement? If you can&#39;t let me help you with the design of next
issue type of approach?

Or lets dump this fellow? or lets scrap this newsletter?

If it is so, as a community we are dumping ourselves!

We are denying the right to begin humble, and the time to gradually mature, and
reach the higher quality in due course.

Bottom line is, IDPF should look at the positive side and help.

Best regards,

Dinesh Katre
-----

Pudi Ravi Krishna wrote:
> Dear Bala, Udit, Saumitri and Dinesh,
> It has been 2 years since I first volunteered to contribute to the design
> for all initiative.
> The website had undergone some measure of changes possible within our
> limitations of technology..
> When i didnt find time, I would ask my closest friends to contribute to the
> design, but
> so far help hasnt been forthcoming .
> We are looking at using opensource to make online publishing feasible.
> There are technical difficulties with hosting which we need to overcome.
> As good designers I would expect you to recognize the PROBLEMS that hinder
> better design
> and work towards addressing that. While you have pointed out the issues, we
> would appreciate if you could LEAD towards how you can enable good design
> for someone not really connected to design but a great passion for Universal
> design. Prof. Lalit Das has been contributing to the editorial while
> Dr.Bhatia has shown great commitment in collating content from across the
> world.
> If you were to devote 2 days of your weekend( it is very demanding I tell
> you), then sab kuch possible hei.
> And lastly 'credibility' has to be built by us by periodically contributing
> to it.
> It is an initiative which has been active for 2 years now and always open if
> you want to be a part of it.
> thanks.
> warm regards
> Pudi Ravi Krishna
> 09989802868
> Hyderabad
> 2008/6/27 < designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in >:
>>
>> I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible..
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Saumitri
>>
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>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , "A. Balasubramaniam"
>> <abalasubramaniam@ ....>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
>> > inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
>> > email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
>> > I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
>> > contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
>> > the newsletter too tedious to read.
>> > Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
>> > whole thing is fishy!!
>> > A.Balasubramaniam
>> > NID-'86
>> > Dean, IILM SChool of Design
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear Friends,
>> > > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
>> > caring for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed
>> > articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed
>> > from this platform
>> > > Prof Lalit Das
>> > >
>> > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
>> > > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
>> > Design For All Institute of India
>> > > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
>> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > How can something published on design, especially a design-
>> > dedicated
>> > > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>> > >
>> > > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
>> > any
>> > > visualisation! Very painful.
>> > >
>> > > Udit C
>> > >
>> > > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
>> > > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear Friends
>> > > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
>> > is
>> > > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
>> > special
>> > > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
>> > > > many regular features
>> > > >
>> > > > 1. Chairman's Desk: �������������.2
>> > > > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15
>> > > > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District
>> > > > in India Using Universal
>> > > > Design Concepts
>> > �����������������..23
>> > > > 4. Home Modifications and Products for
>> > > > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43
>> > > > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67
>> > > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
>> > > > President of Aaron Marcus And
>> > > > Associates,Inc
>> > > > Mr. Aaron Marcus�������������.73
>> > > > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87
>> > > > 9
>> > Letters:������������������.. 89
>> > > > 10 Appeal:��������� ��
>> > �������..92
>> > > > 11. News: �����������
>> > �������.101
>> > > > 12 Program & Events:������ � �����.110
>> > > > 13 Job Opening:
>> > ���������������..125
>> > > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall. . in for our current
>> > as
>> > > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
>> > link
>> > > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
>> > > >
>> > > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
>> > re-
>> > > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
>> > > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
>> > > > suggestions.
>> > > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
>> > to
>> > > > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-
>> > > > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
>> > > > Those who are interested in print version they can send their
>> > > > request to dr_subha@
>> > > > With regards
>> > > > Dr. Sunil Bhatia
>> > > > Design For All Institute Of India
>> > > > Dr_subha@
>> > > > www.designforall. in
>> > > > Tel 91-11-27853470( R)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Messages in this topic (7)
>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
>> 2.3. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>> Posted by: "Dinesh Korjan" korjan@gmail. com dkorjan
>> Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:01 pm
>>
>> to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five
>> copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this
>> is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with
>> just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design
>> for all'?
>>
>> regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad
>>
>> saumitri wrote:
>> >
>> > I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I
>> > am allowed to provide
>> > feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
>> > appreciate if my
>> > comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to
>> > contribute.
>> >
>> > ---
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Messages in this topic (7)
>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
>> 2.4. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>> Posted by: "Uditnarain Chaudhuri" uditnc@gmail. com uditc
>> Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm
>>
>> I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
>> activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
>> touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
>> a movement.
>>
>> I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
>> caring about what others are doing."
>>
>> All professionals in every field, design included, are active
>> networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
>> your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
>> even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
>> number of very relevant topics.
>>
>> udit C
>>
>>
>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@.. .> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Friends,
>> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
>> for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
>> study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?
>>
>> Prof Lalit Das
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
>> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
>> Design For All Institute of India
>> > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
>> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
>> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>> >
>> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
>> > visualisation! Very painful.
>> >
>> > Udit C
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> warm regards
> Pudi Ravi Krishna
> Hyderabad
> 09989802868
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Sounds like it was a great event Pankaj.



And your report is very clear and comprehensive.

Thanks for sharing this.



Best

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From: designindia@... [mailto:designindia@...]
On Behalf Of Pankaj Sapkal
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:49 AM
To: designindia@...
Subject: [designindia] Inaug - Industrial Innovation and Design Cell



This is to report the successful inauguration of the "Industrial Innovation
and Design Cell" on the 26th June 08 - a collaborative initiative by the
MCCIA and the Pune Design Foundation.

----------------

The Inaugural event was a workshop targeted at the the Electronics Industry,
held at the ICC towers, Pune. The chief guest was Mr. Sohan Chordia of GIC -
a senior and pioneering industrialist from the electronics sector. T he
workshop was also voluntarily attended by veteran academician Dr. Kolaskar -
displaying a commendable seriousness in his endeavour to enter the field of
design education.
Attendees consisted of primarily of senior and upcoming electronics
manufacturers, electronics professionals of various types, as well as Design
professionals, design faculty and students.

The event was covered by the press, and it was quite heartening to see the
precise purpose of the workshop being fulfilled - manufacturers showed an
active interest in interacting with designers, asking for advice from the
design community and distinctly displaying a desire to engage the designers
in professional projects. The students also expressed a good satisfaction at
being able to get such valuable (and rare) exposure from so many prominent
designers, as well as acquiring a first hand experience of seeing senior
deisgners interact with the electronics industry and address their voiced
needs. (This time a lot of students could not turn up since this is vacation
time - however, such events are obviously invaluable to any attending
students, subtly equipping them to interact precisely and confidently with
the manufacturing industry representatives. Greater attendance by students
is highly recommended in any forthcoming design workshops for the industry).

Presentations by all four design speakers (Satish Gokhale from Design
Directions, Bala Mahajan from Ticket Design, Prakash Khanzhode from Onio
Design, Nachiket Thakur from Mahindra Composites) were superlative and
clearly made an impression on the attendees from the electronics industry.

Our next workshop will be held in approximately the first week of Aug -
kindly send in your expression of interest for being a design speaker for
the forthcoming InnoCell workshops of 2008.
We already have some speakers and would appreciate more proposals for the
same. Do bear in mind that we like to present specialty topics at the
workshops, so if you have any such topic that you would like to speak about
at an InnoCell workshop in Pune, kindly let me know. It goes without saying
that speakers who are not from Pune Design Foundation are welcome, as well.

I would like to thank all the members of the Pune Design Foundation (and the
MCCIA) who actively helped to make this first event successful - whether
through direct participation, or by providing a proactive moral support.

Thank you,

- Pankaj Sapkal
Founder-Member, Pune Design Foundation
Coordinator - InnoCell Initiative
ex-IDC

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Dear Friends,


To introduce myself I am novice in the field of design and on
a quest to understand design and develop design thinking. As part of this
initiative I joined this group about a year back and since then I have been a
quite observer, trying to learn things from ‘big’ experts in Design.


But lately, there have been some discussions on the group
which have compelled me to post this mail. With due respect to all the
‘great’
thinkers in the group, I understand that all my observations may not be right
and
I hope people will excuse me for some loopholes in my analysis.


So while I was passing out from the school I shared same feelings/emotions
which Abhisekh have expressed. Many replies followed this thread saying that we
as designers are also contributing to the society. But what I could not
understand is that how are our contributions different from a labourer working
on a site who is paid at the end of the day. Basically most of the time we all
are
just trying to satisfy or payer and this is very well highlighted in the post-
‘male
child in commercials’.


Design for All newsletter is second issue which compelled me
to write this mail. It is kind of funny to see people equivalent to my teachers,
arguing like this on an open forum. There is a mention of newsletter spam in
mail box, may I ask what your replies directed to a single person doing to the
mail box of other members when posted to the group.


Also I believe that when you really care for someone, you
advice him in private and not by shouting in public creating a type of boycott
movement
against him/her.


Hope we are more considerate and do a self conscious analysis
before replying on the group.


Sorry for writing such a long mail.


Regards,

Amit Sharma

Biodesign Fellow



--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@...> wrote:
From: Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@...>
Subject: RE: [designindia] Re: Newsletter of Design For All
To: "pudiravi@..." <pudiravi@...>
Cc: "designindia@..." <designindia@...>
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 12:39 PM











             Dear Indian Design Police Force (IDPF),



Adding a bit of humor to this debate to make it light!



Even I have contributed to this Newsletter, just because I sincerely believe
that we are deprived of such newsletters or journals in India, and such
initiatives must survive. It is an essential building block for the progress of
Indian design.



Now lets appreciate some things about Sunil Bhatia. You can see that he has been
consistently, relentlessly publishing his newsletter for last 24 months, may be
not very well designed, may be not very high standards of quality. But with fair
intentions, positive and inclusive approach.



How should such initiatives be responded?



With encouragement?  If you can&#39;t let me help you with the design of next
issue type of approach?



Or lets dump this fellow? or lets scrap this newsletter?



If it is so, as a community we are dumping ourselves!



We are denying the right to begin humble, and the time to gradually mature, and
reach the higher quality in due course.



Bottom line is, IDPF should look at the positive side and help.



Best regards,



Dinesh Katre

-----



Pudi Ravi Krishna wrote:

>             Dear Bala, Udit, Saumitri and Dinesh,

> It has been 2 years since I first volunteered to contribute to the design

> for all initiative.

> The website had undergone some measure of changes possible within our

> limitations of technology..

> When i didnt find time, I would ask my closest friends to contribute to the

> design, but

> so far help hasnt been forthcoming .

> We are looking at using opensource to make online publishing feasible.

> There are technical difficulties with hosting which we need to overcome.

> As good designers I would expect you to recognize the PROBLEMS that hinder

> better design

> and work towards addressing that. While you have pointed out the issues, we

> would appreciate if you could LEAD towards how you can enable good design

> for someone not really connected to design but a great passion for Universal

> design. Prof. Lalit Das has been contributing to the editorial while

> Dr.Bhatia has shown great commitment in collating content from across the

> world.

> If you were to devote 2 days of your weekend( it is very demanding I tell

> you), then sab kuch possible hei.

> And lastly 'credibility' has to be built by us by periodically contributing

> to it.

> It is an initiative which has been active for 2 years now and always open if

> you want to be a part of it.

> thanks.

> warm regards

> Pudi Ravi Krishna

> 09989802868

> Hyderabad

> 2008/6/27 < designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in >:

>>

>> I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible..

>>

>> Best regards,

>> Saumitri

>>

>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

>>

>>

>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , "A. Balasubramaniam"

>> <abalasubramaniam@ ....>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> > I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design

>> > inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's

>> > email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??

>> > I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not

>> > contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find

>> > the newsletter too tedious to read.

>> > Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the

>> > whole thing is fishy!!

>> > A.Balasubramaniam

>> > NID-'86

>> > Dean, IILM SChool of Design

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>

>> > wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Dear Friends,

>> > > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not

>> > caring for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed

>> > articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed

>> > from this platform

>> > > Prof Lalit Das

>> > >

>> > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>

>> > > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of

>> > Design For All Institute of India

>> > > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in

>> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > How can something published on design, especially a design-

>> > dedicated

>> > > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?

>> > >

>> > > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of

>> > any

>> > > visualisation! Very painful.

>> > >

>> > > Udit C

>> > >

>> > > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"

>> > > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > Dear Friends

>> > > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6

>> > is

>> > > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very

>> > special

>> > > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and

>> > > > many regular features

>> > > >

>> > > > 1. Chairman's Desk: �������������.2

>> > > > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15

>> > > > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District

>> > > > in India Using Universal

>> > > > Design Concepts

>> > �����������������..23

>> > > > 4. Home Modifications and Products for

>> > > > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43

>> > > > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67

>> > > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:

>> > > > President of Aaron Marcus And

>> > > > Associates,Inc

>> > > > Mr. Aaron Marcus�������������.73

>> > > > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87

>> > > > 9

>> > Letters:������������������.. 89

>> > > > 10 Appeal:��������� ��

>> > �������..92

>> > > > 11. News: �����������

>> > �������.101

>> > > > 12 Program & Events:������ � �����.110

>> > > > 13 Job Opening:

>> > ���������������..125

>> > > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall. . in for our current

>> > as

>> > > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this

>> > link

>> > > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf

>> > > >

>> > > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to

>> > re-

>> > > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social

>> > > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your

>> > > > suggestions.

>> > > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter

>> > to

>> > > > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-

>> > > > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.

>> > > > Those who are interested in print version they can send their

>> > > > request to dr_subha@

>> > > > With regards

>> > > > Dr. Sunil Bhatia

>> > > > Design For All Institute Of India

>> > > > Dr_subha@

>> > > > www.designforall. in

>> > > > Tel 91-11-27853470( R)

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

>> 2.3. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of

>>    Posted by: "Dinesh Korjan" korjan@gmail. com dkorjan

>>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:01 pm

>>

>> to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five

>> copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this

>> is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with

>> just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design

>> for all'?

>>

>> regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad

>>

>> saumitri wrote:

>> >

>> > I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I

>> > am allowed to provide

>> > feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would

>> > appreciate if my

>> > comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to

>> > contribute.

>> >

>> > ---

>> >

>>

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>

>>

>>

>> Messages in this topic (7)

>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

>> 2.4. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of

>>    Posted by: "Uditnarain Chaudhuri" uditnc@gmail. com uditc

>>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm

>>

>> I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective

>> activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes

>> touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be

>>  a movement.

>>

>> I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not

>> caring about what others are doing."

>>

>> All professionals in every field, design included, are active

>> networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed

>> your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,

>> even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a

>> number of very relevant topics.

>>

>> udit C

>>

>>

>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@.. .> wrote:

>> >

>> > Dear Friends,

>> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring

>> for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case

>> study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?

>>

>> Prof Lalit Das

>> >

>> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:

>> >

>> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>

>> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of

>> Design For All Institute of India

>> > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in

>> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM

>> >

>> >

>> > How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated

>> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?

>> >

>> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any

>> > visualisation! Very painful.

>> >

>> > Udit C

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

> --

> warm regards

> Pudi Ravi Krishna

> Hyderabad

> 09989802868

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Hi,
This is an article published in Images BoF about the trend forecasting scenario
in India…a bit oldy...
Though my experience is different… at Indian fairs we dont exhibit trend
prediction for India but copy some exhisting trend report s(eg. wgsn or
promotsyl...ahh not the effective one's like "trend union" or "here & there"
though)and display our "ability" to copy as close as possible...in textile,
leather, knits or any other materials...the garment trade fairs are pathetic...
In India we actually have three groups of people…the Indian, the Bharatiya &
the Confused… if we fix the “sample group” then the problem comes in
respect of 3 Cs…the Climate, Culture & Compatibility… But, interestingly,
the Indian youth segment seems much synchronized.
Any Comments/ contribution?
U can chk my blog: http://ingene.blogspot.com
Regards,
Kaustav
NIFT
Chennai
 
FORECASTING INDIA
What are the fashion forecasting sources in India? Can Indian clothing and
textile manufacturers use forecasts made by international agencies? Or does the
industry require a forecasting cell of its own? In today’s global village, as
the meaning of forecasts itself changes, Shweta Taneja researches with the
industry to understand the forecasting needs of the domestic industry at all
levels.
 
Fashion forecasting is an integral requirement for any successful business in
the apparel industry. With long lead times in processing a piece of clothing
from fibre to a finished product, it is important for a business to be able to
anticipate the needs of the consumers.
 
Whether instinctively or through extensive research, every apparel or textile
manufacturer, designer and brand in India tries to understand the requirement of
their customers well in advance before planning their next season’s range. All
segments of the Indian fashion and textile industry today are in some way
involved in forecasting — either by working on an individualised forecast
after researching with their consumers or by adapting these from international
counterparts.
 
Problematic existing fragments
There are some Indian attempts to impart forecasting information. The business
media plays an important role in this regard. Magazines, either
individually-owned or those belonging to councils, cooperatives of various
segments in the industry, take out seasonal forecasts related to their readers.
Individual efforts from magazines research the markets and interpret the trends
observed in a conclusive forecast.
 
Then there are various apparel and textile related trade fairs which display
trends in their specific industries. For example, Tex Style India, held in New
Delhi by the ministry of textiles. It forecasts trends in yarns, fabrics,
blends, furnishings, trims, and accessories (all inclusive in textiles). Some of
its activities:
 
•           Trend Forum – Season’s forecast and trends of top
designers
•           Fabric Folio - The innovations, concepts, and
developments culled from the participating companies and other production
centers
 
HeimTextil India, specialises in upholstery fabrics. Organised by Messe
Frankfurt Trade Fairs India Pvt Ltd, it screens a Lifestyle Trend Show for
upholstery fabrics and also holds a seminar on trends by leading international
agencies.
 
Conferences and seminars held by associations like the Textile Association, CII,
CMAI, etc give a strong indication on the latest innovations, technologies, and
marketing strategies. Individual companies have their own marketing and consumer
research teams who analyse the market in depth to predict the future needs.
 
But most of these sources are somewhat limited in their scope —
geographically, specific parts of the supply chain, special projects, specific
company or clients. There is no cohesiveness or coordination among any for a
complete forecast. All forecasts have a Western outlook and rarely explore
Indian developments in terms of consumer trends, Indian wear, latest
technologies, latest fabrics, and latest retail trends.
 
Every segment of the supply chain in the industry has specific requirement. The
information gaps are vividly seen once one explores the industry part-by-part in
segments.
Textile industry
Most of the textile units based in India are small, so they are dependent for
direction on their clients. Simran Singh, an industry expert says, “Textile
industry develops (fabrics) only on manufacturer’s demand. Manufacturers
include brands, people who produce garments for other brands and retailer’s
in-house.” In this way, they indirectly depend on the manufacturer’s trends
research. There are some big mills that develop their own ranges and sell them
both in India and abroad. These use both international forecasts and their own
consumer analysis. The segment directly or indirectly follows the trends set in
various trade fairs abroad. The information they require:
 
•Information of what is latest in fabric development — both internationally
and Indian
•The themes the manufacturers will be working on in the next season
•Changing consumer trends; consumer response as per fabrics
•Global developments and trends in fabrics
•What the trade fairs and ramp collections show
•Global forecasts with Indian sensibilities (especially climate, culture and
traditional designs kept in mind). Latest trends in design and marketing
strategies.
 
Manufacturers/brands
The bigger retail brands in India like Westside, Wills Sport, etc outsource
their designs by hiring foreign design consultants. The design team in India is
hired to shape the collection keeping Indian bodies and sensibilities in mind.
Or, the brand buys one of the European forecasts and visits the main fairs like
Premiere Vision twice a year. But the information they get is Euro-centric which
cannot be applied to India completely. So for the next range, they add in
information gained from consumer response and sales figures.
 
For example, retail brand W of TCNS Clothing claims a highly researched and
consumer centric design development process with assistance from Jane Neves, a
UK based designer. More extensively researched, Coimbatore-based KG Denim has a
‘Fashion Trend Management Group’ which looks at denim trends by following
international designers and trends. It is a vertically integrated company for
denims wears which has a brand name by the name Trigger. “We prepare our
forecasts by consulting international forecasts like WSGN and trend magazines
like View. We derive the moods/themes from these international references. The
forecasts include the general consumer wants, the market mood, the colours in
vogue, the fabrics, silhouettes, looks, themes, highlights, trims,
embellishments and accessories. It is a fairly detailed and practical forecast
to be used by the designers for inspiration for a collection,” say Nupur
Gupta, ex-buyer
 
Raymond Be:.
Need for a forecasting centre?
Though information on forecasting is found in the industry in bits and pieces,
there is no single organisation which gives it in a comprehensive, holistic and
logical way. There is also no coordination between various segments of the
industry, which adds to the disorganised structure of the industry.
 
A single broad fashion direction is essential for each season as the consumer
will be able to see and want to become part of it. “What becomes important is
to interpret the international forecast to suit Indian sensibilities. Alongside,
it is important is to keep in view that the Indian fashion scenario is very
individualistic and diverse, there is a coexistence of several different
things/trends/themes. We should not in the process kill this,” says Asha Baxi,
dean of fashion department at NIFT, New Delhi. For a trend to work it has to be
visible, it has to start working at the supply chain. The consumer should be
able to feel the trends distinctly. This will lead to more sales and lesser
stocks for the industry.
 
There is a need for a forum for all the segments of the industry to get
together, but the onus of a forecast should lie with a forecasting agency. “I
think you should have the industry involved because you need their point of
view. Let us get the ‘appropriate’ representatives of these industries. We
don’t need them all, but some selected influential leaders. Once they lead and
come to a concrete conclusion, the rest will follow,” continues Baxi. Experts
at KSA-Technopak believe that the agency that wants to become successful should
service organised retailers, brands and consumers.
 
So what the industry requires is not only a forecasting centre, but a whole
lifestyle forecasting centre. Instead of concentrating only on clothing and
textiles, this agency should also forecast colours for the season across
industries (for durables and non-durables), provide an information on the
overall view of the consumer, predict what their wants will be and define the
coming changes in their lifestyles – an amalgamation of intensive research
cutting across the segments of the supply chain to predict trends.
 
Creating Indian forecasts
Broad themes and trends of an Indian fashion season requirement are generally
the same as the world over. This means that international forecasts can be
reinterpreted according to Indian sensibilities and presented in an Indian
context. But one needs to include the requirements of Indian consumers keeping
in mind weather changes, culture, social and economical factors. If these key
factors are not included, the range developed will be global in trends and might
not appeal to regional consumers at all.
 
For colour information
The trend of colours follows three divisions — fashion colours, Indian
interpretations and classic colours. Forecast 18-24 months before the actual
season, colour forecasts are used by the textile industry while developing
fabrics. Fashion colours are the seasonal colours which change according to the
trends. The classic colours are the schemes which remain the same with very
subtle differences season to season (For example black and dark blue in trousers
for men). For a better judgment, combine elements for these multiple sources and
pick up the common colours.
 
International Sources
•Influential fashion consumer magazines: Vogue, Elle, etc.
•Hollywood movies have a direct impact on the Indian audience as well, so keep
a track of the flashes of colours and themes in the famous ones.
•As Indian teenagers aspire to be like their American counterpart it is good
to keep track of the trends coming in youth cultures of the US and Europe.
•Check out trade magazines for guidelines and what are the long-term trends:
W, WWD, etc (also for new technologies, revivals coming the way of fashion.
•Check out the Net: fashion websites, e-zines, websites of
directional/designer boutiques, journals on fashion, etc.
•Forecasting agencies and coorperatives of fabrics which do extensive research
on this.
Domestic sources
•Sales information of the major textile companies to tell which colours were
preferred last season.
•Environment: Colours are accepted gradually over seasons. Generally, they
change shades season to season. Even conservatives change in their shades. To
predict the colour coming the next season, one can look at the new colours shown
in the environment around us. This gauges which colour is being repeatedly seen
(in a positive context) by the consumer.
•In media: What colours are the idols wearing; magazines, colour schemes
featured in films with exotic locales, set in stylish time periods, or featuring
distinctive costuming
•Highlight colours for the current season: They will generally be converted
into solids two seasons hence.
•New colours in other lifestyle product categories: cars, upholstery, wall
paints, interiors. Or new colour directions introduced by some high profile
industry (along with promotion as a theme) like accessories, make-up, etc.
•Watch consumers in their natural habitat track their changing preferences
•The same colour trend present in multiple formats generally gives a hint of a
strong colour trend.
•New developments: Because colour largely depends on the fabric, for colour
forecasts, one has to keep in touch with new developments in fabric, fibre, and
yarn. New technologies many a times spark new colour cycles. Constantly check
invention of a new fabric/yarn/fibre or a new dye, couture collections of
designers who sometimes set new trends by introducing new colours or designs
into media’s attention.
For information on textiles
Done 6-12 months ahead of the selling season in India, textile development for
the same season in Europe/US is at least 12-18 months ahead. So, Indian apparel
manufacturers can go abroad, check out the fairs and the trends seen in the
fairs, bring samples to textile mills for manufacturing and be ready with the
goods in the same season as anyone abroad. But the key problem here is that
there is a large sector of Indian textiles which is different and is not
accounted for in these fairs. So most of the Indian manufacturers depend on
their sourcing and designing skills to find the right Indian fabrics, when they
need it.
 
International sources
•Textile trade magazines — European, Asian, and American
•International trade fairs — especially famous ones like France’s Premiere
Vision (where most of the Indian manufacturers go for picking up trends in
fabrics)
•Developments and research being done by famous fibre/yarn/fabric
manufacturers, developers, and associations — like DuPont, Cotton Inc (for
cotton fabrics)
•What fabrics are internationally claimed avant-garde designers are using —
like Galliano, Alexander McQueen, etc. (Most of them get fabrics developed
especially for the couture shows and have a pulse on the newest innovations
Domestic sources
 
•Trade organisations: Mainly responsible for the development of the clusters
they represent. It is a good idea to go to such organisations and look at their
resource centres rather than visit individual mills. The associations are
divided according to the fabric they produce. They are aware of the new
technologies, innovations, new researches, etc of that specific fabric. For
example, Association of Corporations and Apex Societies of Handloom (ACASH);
National Handloom Development Corporation (NHDC), All Indian Cooperation
Spinning Mills, NTC (National Textile Cooperation), The Textile Association,
associations made by the Ministry of Textiles, etc.
 
•Check out the researches of the influencers and innovators of textile: They
have cash-rich R&D teams who develop new types of fabrics. As these players
supply to a majority of key manufacturers and brands, they play an important
role in disseminating trends and innovations into the marketplace. They also
take their trends directly from the international forecasts and have design
teams to reinterpret them. So it is a good idea to see what they are churning
out. Some of the biggies of our industry: Raymonds Ltd, Arvind Mills, Pantaloon
(Textile Division), Reliance, Tata Mills, Birla VXL.
 
•Institutions & resource centres: The fashion and textile institutes in India
maintain resource libraries which display the latest innovations in fabrics both
by students and the industry. It is a good source to find out more about the new
kinds of fabrics springing up. Institutions like NIFT, NID, and Pearl Academy
even divide the fabrics according to seasonal thematic approaches. It is also
important to keep in the know of what textile students are designing. Many a
times, their creative outlook is a fresh look at the fabric and hence spark off
a thematic idea in the forecaster’s mind.
 
•           Look at new developments in fabrics: Which traditional
fabrics will they replace? What fabrics will be enhanced by pairing with them?
What consumer audience is likely to see the value-added benefits in these
developmental fabrics and be willing to pay more for those benefits?
 
•           Check out trade magazines: The easiest and the most
comprehensive source. Almost every association takes out one. There are some
that cover the Asian markets, and then some which focus only on a specific fibre
and innovations in that industry. The media is a good way of know what is the
latest happenings in the textile industry. It is also a good way of finding out
the people or corporations who are making a difference and are the innovators of
the industry.
For information on apparel
In India, the apparel collection is made by the brand and then offered to
retailers. For this, there is a need for a forecast to try and predict what the
retailer (and finally the consumer) might want. The general themes of clothing
continue from the fabrics and colour forecasts. What is covered along with these
are the silhouettes, the fabrics used for each kind of story, and the
embellishments and trims on the clothing.
 
International sources
•What the international fashion press is talking about: What’s hot, who’s
the topic of discussion, what trends are seen in the market/streets, etc.
 
•Shows and presentations: Couture shows (generally show avant-garde designs;
experiments of the designers); Deluxe RTW (prêt-a-porter designer) – shows by
designer houses; collections kept in designer boutiques and specialty stores
(manufactured by the design house); RTW/Porte de Versailles (prêt-a-porter
bridge) designs placed by retailers for their stores; trade shows
 
Indian sources
•Haute couture shows: Couture is directional for fashion themes, references to
designers and eras of the fashion past, ethnic influences, silhouettes, fabrics
and colors. Top designers like Suneet Varma, Ritu Kumar, Tarun Tahiliani, hold
exclusive shows where they show one-of-a-kind collections for their exclusive
clients. These clients (film stars, icons, hi-profile people) are aspired by the
Indian consumer and lead to dissemination of these innovations.
 
•The India Fashion Week: Trends reported in the press often begin here when
editors notice underlying similarities across designers’ collections, or when
a designer presents an outstanding collection with a unifying theme, or when an
item starts in many shows and becomes newsworthy. They are shown a season before
to give a lead-time for order placements.
 
•Apparel trade fairs: They are for all categories of apparel wear,
accessories, and niches (ecologically conscious vendors, handmade, etc). Centred
on selling fashion, they also showcase new design talent for specific product
categories, price points and target audiences. These shows are especially
important for independent stores because they offer a chance to see many lines
and select merchandise that differentiates the independents from the large
departmental store chains. They also hold fashion shows of some brands’ latest
collections. These are a good line up on the direction the brands are taking
that season.
 
•Libraries and resources: Industry trade associations and educational
institutes maintain fabric libraries for fashion research and present updates
for apparel executives. These libraries are a huge source of all the
developments and innovations presented by the members of the association for a
particular season. Informed sources in the library can also tell you on what is
selling.
 
•Keeping track of the world around: To know what will happen in the future, it
is important to know what is happening in the present. Things like new travel
destinations that merge new sights and experiences or involve new concepts in
the hospitality industry. Trends in interior design and architecture; industrial
design, graphic design and package design because these fields often foreshadow
new visual directions. Political, social and economical changes — how it will
impact consumer tastes and spending; what is new — electronic gadgets,
computer applications and breakthrough technologies.
 
•Change agents: Keep track of innovators (adventurers) and group leaders
(lifestyles of the rich and famous; celebrities) who affect the consumers. Some
fashion innovators in India: movie stars, designers, high profile individuals
from business, art and fashion backgrounds, high fashion stores and avant-garde
boutiques are willing to present new fashion innovations based on their own
judgment and clientele.
 
• Youth passions: Youth have the time and energy to indulge into innovations
in fashion. They influence some designers, most apparel for casualwear and are
directional to other age groups and categories. For apparel categories like
juniors, contemporary and denim, virtually all trends derive from street looks.
Some of the likely places where an emerging trend can be spotted: Learning
centres: school, colleges, and libraries; Hang outs for the young: supermarkets,
bowling alleys, bars, discotheques, coffee houses cafes, clubs, music youth
haunts; transportation hubs: subways, bus stands, stations; street fashion (or
youthful experimentation): they take available clothing sources and mix,
restyle, and customise items in individualistic and expressive ways.
 
•Market places: Good for observing the general direction in which consumers
are going. Check what’s new, what's selling like hot cake; what's the general
mood, what's selling, latest styles of visual merchandising in store displays,
combination of clothing on mannequins
 
•Popular culture trends: Indians are especially affected by the trends seen in
popular media — television, movies, etc. Be it celebrity gossip or clothing
scandal, Indians love all gossip. Many a trend and fad starts from a hit movie,
a high-TRP serial, or a catchy music video. This is because fashion is linked in
Indian mindsets with celebrities, media, and hi-society.
 




A hit movie — especially popular with the youth — look for clothing styles,
colours, attitudes, accessories, hairstyles, make-up, elements which can become
fads and can be converted into trends (like Dil Chahta Hai).
 
•Trends in a movie (still in production) getting a lot of media attention —
what is it all about, who is designing clothing for it.
 
•Movies set in a different era — more than anything, for providing
inspiration to designers.
 
•Serials which are trendsetters (like Kyunki Saas, Jassi, etc) and get a lot
of media attention.
 
•Newspaper supplements, magazines (both business and leisure) — what topics
are being mentioned, what are the concerns of the people, etc.
 
•Music videos — the techniques with which they are making videos,
stylisation of the video, etc.
 
•Youth music channels — everything from graphics, VJs stylisation, to
backgrounds in programmes.
 
•Keep track of innovations: An innovation always starts from an individual (a
person or a group). It can be anything from the earrings worn in a new video, a
hit movie, retro revival on runway by designers. Some new invention, an unusual
colour range, a garment detail or a mood expressed in a distinctive style.
Innovative ideas are discovered by fashion scouts (journalists, fashion
directors, forecasters, and merchants) and moved from source to marketplace by
tastemakers (celebrities, models, fashion stylists, fashion leaders) who
increase the visibility of the innovation and make it acceptable to more
consumers.
 
The forecast exercise was undertaken keeping in mind the fabric forecast
provided by Invista. WGSN and Promostyl global forecast were studied and
analysed in relation to fabrics. Keeping in mind the Indian sensibilities and
market dynamics, relevant data was compiled to arrive at the Trend Forecast for
Spring/Summer '06 and Autumn/Winter '06-'07. The forecast has been made keeping
in mind the elements of fabric, colour and styling. Courtesy: Munch Internal
Forecast Cell, Invista Fabric Forecast, World Global Style Network, Promostyl,
Getty Images, Corbis, First View, www.google.com (Report on 'Rendezvous 2005' on
pg 196).






 
 
Kaustav SenGupta
Assistant Professor & Centre Coordinator
Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories
National Institute of Fashion technology
NIFT Campus
Chennai- Tamilnadu
India
&
Internal Design Consultant (IDC)
SGSY Project Design Studio- Govt. of India

--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@...> wrote:

From: Dinesh Katre <dineshkatre@...>
Subject: RE: [designindia] Re: Newsletter of Design For All
To: "pudiravi@..." <pudiravi@...>
Cc: "designindia@..." <designindia@...>
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 12:09 AM






Dear Indian Design Police Force (IDPF),

Adding a bit of humor to this debate to make it light!

Even I have contributed to this Newsletter, just because I sincerely believe
that we are deprived of such newsletters or journals in India, and such
initiatives must survive. It is an essential building block for the progress of
Indian design.

Now lets appreciate some things about Sunil Bhatia. You can see that he has been
consistently, relentlessly publishing his newsletter for last 24 months, may be
not very well designed, may be not very high standards of quality. But with fair
intentions, positive and inclusive approach.

How should such initiatives be responded?

With encouragement? If you can&#39;t let me help you with the design of next
issue type of approach?

Or lets dump this fellow? or lets scrap this newsletter?

If it is so, as a community we are dumping ourselves!

We are denying the right to begin humble, and the time to gradually mature, and
reach the higher quality in due course.

Bottom line is, IDPF should look at the positive side and help.

Best regards,

Dinesh Katre
-----

Pudi Ravi Krishna wrote:
> Dear Bala, Udit, Saumitri and Dinesh,
> It has been 2 years since I first volunteered to contribute to the design
> for all initiative.
> The website had undergone some measure of changes possible within our
> limitations of technology..
> When i didnt find time, I would ask my closest friends to contribute to the
> design, but
> so far help hasnt been forthcoming .
> We are looking at using opensource to make online publishing feasible.
> There are technical difficulties with hosting which we need to overcome.
> As good designers I would expect you to recognize the PROBLEMS that hinder
> better design
> and work towards addressing that. While you have pointed out the issues, we
> would appreciate if you could LEAD towards how you can enable good design
> for someone not really connected to design but a great passion for Universal
> design. Prof. Lalit Das has been contributing to the editorial while
> Dr.Bhatia has shown great commitment in collating content from across the
> world.
> If you were to devote 2 days of your weekend( it is very demanding I tell
> you), then sab kuch possible hei.
> And lastly 'credibility' has to be built by us by periodically contributing
> to it.
> It is an initiative which has been active for 2 years now and always open if
> you want to be a part of it.
> thanks.
> warm regards
> Pudi Ravi Krishna
> 09989802868
> Hyderabad
> 2008/6/27 < designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in >:
>>
>> I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible..
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Saumitri
>>
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>>
>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , "A. Balasubramaniam"
>> <abalasubramaniam@ ....>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
>> > inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
>> > email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
>> > I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
>> > contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
>> > the newsletter too tedious to read.
>> > Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
>> > whole thing is fishy!!
>> > A.Balasubramaniam
>> > NID-'86
>> > Dean, IILM SChool of Design
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear Friends,
>> > > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
>> > caring for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed
>> > articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed
>> > from this platform
>> > > Prof Lalit Das
>> > >
>> > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
>> > > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
>> > Design For All Institute of India
>> > > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
>> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > How can something published on design, especially a design-
>> > dedicated
>> > > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>> > >
>> > > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
>> > any
>> > > visualisation! Very painful.
>> > >
>> > > Udit C
>> > >
>> > > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
>> > > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear Friends
>> > > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
>> > is
>> > > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
>> > special
>> > > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
>> > > > many regular features
>> > > >
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>> > > > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15
>> > > > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District
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>> > > > 4. Home Modifications and Products for
>> > > > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43
>> > > > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67
>> > > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
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>> > > > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87
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>> > > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall. . in for our current
>> > as
>> > > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
>> > link
>> > > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
>> > > >
>> > > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
>> > re-
>> > > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
>> > > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
>> > > > suggestions.
>> > > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
>> > to
>> > > > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-
>> > > > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
>> > > > Those who are interested in print version they can send their
>> > > > request to dr_subha@
>> > > > With regards
>> > > > Dr. Sunil Bhatia
>> > > > Design For All Institute Of India
>> > > > Dr_subha@
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>> 2.3. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>> Posted by: "Dinesh Korjan" korjan@gmail. com dkorjan
>> Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:01 pm
>>
>> to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five
>> copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this
>> is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with
>> just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design
>> for all'?
>>
>> regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad
>>
>> saumitri wrote:
>> >
>> > I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I
>> > am allowed to provide
>> > feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
>> > appreciate if my
>> > comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to
>> > contribute.
>> >
>> > ---
>> >
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>> 2.4. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>> Posted by: "Uditnarain Chaudhuri" uditnc@gmail. com uditc
>> Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm
>>
>> I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
>> activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
>> touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
>> a movement.
>>
>> I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
>> caring about what others are doing."
>>
>> All professionals in every field, design included, are active
>> networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
>> your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
>> even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
>> number of very relevant topics.
>>
>> udit C
>>
>>
>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@.. .> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Friends,
>> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
>> for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
>> study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?
>>
>> Prof Lalit Das
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
>> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
>> Design For All Institute of India
>> > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
>> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
>> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>> >
>> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
>> > visualisation! Very painful.
>> >
>> > Udit C
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> warm regards
> Pudi Ravi Krishna
> Hyderabad
> 09989802868
> ---
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Dear Indian Design Police Force (IDPF),

Adding a bit of humor to this debate to make it light!

Even I have contributed to this Newsletter, just because I sincerely believe
that we are deprived of such newsletters or journals in India, and such
initiatives must survive. It is an essential building block for the progress of
Indian design.

Now lets appreciate some things about Sunil Bhatia. You can see that he has been
consistently, relentlessly publishing his newsletter for last 24 months, may be
not very well designed, may be not very high standards of quality. But with fair
intentions, positive and inclusive approach.

How should such initiatives be responded?

With encouragement?  If you can't let me help you with the design of next
issue type of approach?

Or lets dump this fellow? or lets scrap this newsletter?

If it is so, as a community we are dumping ourselves!

We are denying the right to begin humble, and the time to gradually mature, and
reach the higher quality in due course.

Bottom line is, IDPF should look at the positive side and help.

Best regards,

Dinesh Katre
-----

Pudi Ravi Krishna wrote:
>             Dear Bala, Udit, Saumitri and Dinesh,
> It has been 2 years since I first volunteered to contribute to the design
> for all initiative.
> The website had undergone some measure of changes possible within our
> limitations of technology..
> When i didnt find time, I would ask my closest friends to contribute to the
> design, but
> so far help hasnt been forthcoming .
> We are looking at using opensource to make online publishing feasible.
> There are technical difficulties with hosting which we need to overcome.
> As good designers I would expect you to recognize the PROBLEMS that hinder
> better design
> and work towards addressing that. While you have pointed out the issues, we
> would appreciate if you could LEAD towards how you can enable good design
> for someone not really connected to design but a great passion for Universal
> design. Prof. Lalit Das has been contributing to the editorial while
> Dr.Bhatia has shown great commitment in collating content from across the
> world.
> If you were to devote 2 days of your weekend( it is very demanding I tell
> you), then sab kuch possible hei.
> And lastly 'credibility' has to be built by us by periodically contributing
> to it.
> It is an initiative which has been active for 2 years now and always open if
> you want to be a part of it.
> thanks.
> warm regards
> Pudi Ravi Krishna
> 09989802868
> Hyderabad
> 2008/6/27 < designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in >:
>>
>> I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible..
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Saumitri
>>
>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
>>
>>
>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , "A. Balasubramaniam"
>> <abalasubramaniam@ ....>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
>> > inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
>> > email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
>> > I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
>> > contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
>> > the newsletter too tedious to read.
>> > Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
>> > whole thing is fishy!!
>> > A.Balasubramaniam
>> > NID-'86
>> > Dean, IILM SChool of Design
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear Friends,
>> > > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
>> > caring for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed
>> > articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed
>> > from this platform
>> > > Prof Lalit Das
>> > >
>> > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
>> > > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
>> > Design For All Institute of India
>> > > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
>> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > How can something published on design, especially a design-
>> > dedicated
>> > > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>> > >
>> > > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
>> > any
>> > > visualisation! Very painful.
>> > >
>> > > Udit C
>> > >
>> > > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
>> > > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear Friends
>> > > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
>> > is
>> > > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
>> > special
>> > > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
>> > > > many regular features
>> > > >
>> > > > 1. Chairman's Desk: �������������.2
>> > > > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15
>> > > > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District
>> > > > in India Using Universal
>> > > > Design Concepts
>> > �����������������..23
>> > > > 4. Home Modifications and Products for
>> > > > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43
>> > > > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67
>> > > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
>> > > > President of Aaron Marcus And
>> > > > Associates,Inc
>> > > > Mr. Aaron Marcus�������������.73
>> > > > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87
>> > > > 9
>> > Letters:������������������.. 89
>> > > > 10 Appeal:��������� ��
>> > �������..92
>> > > > 11. News: �����������
>> > �������.101
>> > > > 12 Program & Events:������ � �����.110
>> > > > 13 Job Opening:
>> > ���������������..125
>> > > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall.. in for our current
>> > as
>> > > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
>> > link
>> > > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
>> > > >
>> > > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
>> > re-
>> > > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
>> > > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
>> > > > suggestions.
>> > > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
>> > to
>> > > > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-
>> > > > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
>> > > > Those who are interested in print version they can send their
>> > > > request to dr_subha@
>> > > > With regards
>> > > > Dr. Sunil Bhatia
>> > > > Design For All Institute Of India
>> > > > Dr_subha@
>> > > > www.designforall. in
>> > > > Tel 91-11-27853470( R)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Messages in this topic (7)
>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
>> 2.3. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>>    Posted by: "Dinesh Korjan" korjan@gmail. com dkorjan
>>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:01 pm
>>
>> to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five
>> copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this
>> is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with
>> just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design
>> for all'?
>>
>> regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad
>>
>> saumitri wrote:
>> >
>> > I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I
>> > am allowed to provide
>> > feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
>> > appreciate if my
>> > comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to
>> > contribute.
>> >
>> > ---
>> >
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> Messages in this topic (7)
>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
>> 2.4. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>>    Posted by: "Uditnarain Chaudhuri" uditnc@gmail. com uditc
>>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm
>>
>> I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
>> activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
>> touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
>>  a movement.
>>
>> I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
>> caring about what others are doing."
>>
>> All professionals in every field, design included, are active
>> networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
>> your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
>> even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
>> number of very relevant topics.
>>
>> udit C
>>
>>
>> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in , sunil bhatia <dr_subha@.. .> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Friends,
>> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
>> for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
>> study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?
>>
>> Prof Lalit Das
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
>> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
>> Design For All Institute of India
>> > To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
>> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
>> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>> >
>> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
>> > visualisation! Very painful.
>> >
>> > Udit C
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> warm regards
> Pudi Ravi Krishna
> Hyderabad
> 09989802868
> ---
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Dear Friends:

Would like to draw your attention to the present day media
communications in India, particularly the TV commercials which are
increasingly using a 'male child' to communicate their promise. This
issue came as a rude shock to us, while working for a known RO water
purifier brand, where the entire communication was shot down due to the
use of stock visuals of a girl child drinking water. The marketing head
of that company expressed his helplessness, that in north and western
India mothers prefer a male child. The result, we had to pull out of the
project.

If you carefully study the Indian media communication across the entire
services and product sector you'll also notice that most companies are
gradually shifting to a Mother-son or a Father-son communication
scenario. This may seem to be a demand from the B and B+ cities in
India, but being a catalyst in the communication process, should we just
act as facilitators or move ahead to guide our clients. To solve this
issue internally, we at most occasions avoid this conflict by removing
any model (adult or child) in our communication. But, this is just one
solution and is not working in all cases.

May I humbly request all the forum members, who are connected to
advertising industry in India, to please address to this issue if they
can in whatever way possible and send their views on DesignIndia. I also
do admit, that we at all occasion serve our audience with, what they are
looking for and there is no single answer to address this issue. But a
dialogue would certainly help.

Sincere apologies for this long mail.

Warm Regards,

Vijaybahu Joshi
B.Arch.SPA Delhi.2000
M.Des-IDC.IITB.2006
Brand Brain Universal
New Delhi.India
+91 9899757366
Email: vijaybahu@...

Dear Bala, Udit, Saumitri and Dinesh,

It has been 2 years since I first volunteered to contribute to the design
for all initiative.
The website had undergone some measure of changes possible within our
limitations of technology.
When i didnt find time, I would ask my closest friends to contribute to the
design, but
so far help hasnt been forthcoming .

We are looking at using opensource to make online publishing feasible.
There are technical difficulties with hosting which we need to overcome.

As good designers I would expect you to recognize the PROBLEMS that hinder
better design
and work towards addressing that. While you have pointed out the issues, we
would appreciate if you could LEAD towards how you can enable good design
for someone not really connected to design but a great passion for Universal
design. Prof. Lalit Das has been contributing to the editorial while
Dr.Bhatia has shown great commitment in collating content from across the
world.

If you were to devote 2 days of your weekend( it is very demanding I tell
you), then sab kuch possible hei.


And lastly 'credibility' has to be built by us by periodically contributing
to it.
It is an initiative which has been active for 2 years now and always open if
you want to be a part of it.
thanks.

warm regards
Pudi Ravi Krishna
09989802868
Hyderabad


2008/6/27 <designindia@...>:

>
> I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible.
>
> Best regards,
> Saumitri
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In designindia@..., "A. Balasubramaniam"
> <abalasubramaniam@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
> > inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
> > email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
> > I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
> > contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
> > the newsletter too tedious to read.
> > Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
> > whole thing is fishy!!
> > A.Balasubramaniam
> > NID-'86
> > Dean, IILM SChool of Design
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In designindia@..., sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Friends,
> > > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
> > caring for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed
> > articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed
> > from this platform
> > > Prof Lalit Das
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
> > > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
> > Design For All Institute of India
> > > To: designindia@...
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How can something published on design, especially a design-
> > dedicated
> > > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
> > >
> > > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
> > any
> > > visualisation! Very painful.
> > >
> > > Udit C
> > >
> > > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
> > > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Friends
> > > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
> > is
> > > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
> > special
> > > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
> > > > many regular features
> > > >
> > > > 1. Chairman's Desk: �������������.2
> > > > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15
> > > > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District
> > > > in India Using Universal
> > > > Design Concepts
> > �����������������..23
> > > > 4. Home Modifications and Products for
> > > > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43
> > > > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67
> > > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
> > > > President of Aaron Marcus And
> > > > Associates,Inc
> > > > Mr. Aaron Marcus�������������.73
> > > > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87
> > > > 9
> > Letters:������������������.. 89
> > > > 10 Appeal:��������� ��
> > �������..92
> > > > 11. News: �����������
> > �������.101
> > > > 12 Program & Events:������ � �����.110
> > > > 13 Job Opening:
> > ���������������..125
> > > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall. in for our current
> > as
> > > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
> > link
> > > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
> > > >
> > > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
> > re-
> > > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
> > > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
> > > > suggestions.
> > > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
> > to
> > > > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-
> > > > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
> > > > Those who are interested in print version they can send their
> > > > request to dr_subha@
> > > > With regards
> > > > Dr. Sunil Bhatia
> > > > Design For All Institute Of India
> > > > Dr_subha@
> > > > www.designforall. in
> > > > Tel 91-11-27853470( R)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (7)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2.3. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>    Posted by: "Dinesh Korjan" korjan@... dkorjan
>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:01 pm
>
> to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five
> copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this
> is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with
> just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design
> for all'?
>
> regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad
>
> saumitri wrote:
> >
> > I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I
> > am allowed to provide
> > feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
> > appreciate if my
> > comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to
> > contribute.
> >
> > ---
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (7)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2.4. Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All Institute of
>    Posted by: "Uditnarain Chaudhuri" uditnc@... uditc
>    Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 pm
>
> I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
> activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
> touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
>  a movement.
>
> I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
> caring about what others are doing."
>
> All professionals in every field, design included, are active
> networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
> your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
> even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
> number of very relevant topics.
>
> udit C
>
>
> --- In designindia@..., sunil bhatia <dr_subha@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
> for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
> study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?
>
> Prof Lalit Das
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
> Design For All Institute of India
> > To: designindia@...
> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
> >
> >
> > How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
> >
> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
> > visualisation! Very painful.
> >
> > Udit C
> >
>
>
>
>
>


--
warm regards
Pudi Ravi Krishna
Hyderabad
09989802868
---


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This is to report the successful inauguration of the "Industrial Innovation
and Design Cell" on the 26th June 08 - a collaborative initiative by the
MCCIA and the Pune Design Foundation.

----------------

The Inaugural event was a workshop targeted at the the Electronics Industry,
held at the ICC towers, Pune. The chief guest was Mr. Sohan Chordia of GIC -
a senior and pioneering industrialist from the electronics sector. T he
workshop was also voluntarily attended by veteran academician Dr. Kolaskar -
displaying a commendable seriousness in his endeavour to enter the field of
design education.
Attendees consisted of primarily of senior and upcoming electronics
manufacturers, electronics professionals of various types, as well as Design
professionals, design faculty and students.

The event was covered by the press, and it was quite heartening to see the
precise purpose of the workshop being fulfilled - manufacturers showed an
active interest in interacting with designers, asking for advice from the
design community and distinctly displaying a desire to engage the designers
in professional projects. The students also expressed a good satisfaction at
being able to get such valuable (and rare) exposure from so many prominent
designers, as well as acquiring a first hand experience of seeing senior
deisgners interact with the electronics industry and address their voiced
needs. (This time a lot of students could not turn up since this is vacation
time - however, such events are obviously invaluable to any attending
students, subtly equipping them to interact precisely and confidently with
the manufacturing industry representatives. Greater attendance by students
is highly recommended in any forthcoming design workshops for the industry).

Presentations by all four design speakers (Satish Gokhale from Design
Directions, Bala Mahajan from Ticket Design, Prakash Khanzhode from Onio
Design, Nachiket Thakur from Mahindra Composites) were superlative and
clearly made an impression on the attendees from the electronics industry.

Our next workshop will be held in approximately the first week of Aug -
kindly send in your expression of interest for being a design speaker for
the forthcoming InnoCell workshops of 2008.
We already have some speakers and would appreciate more proposals for the
same. Do bear in mind that we like to present specialty topics at the
workshops, so if you have any such topic that you would like to speak about
at an InnoCell workshop in Pune, kindly let me know. It goes without saying
that speakers who are not from Pune Design Foundation are welcome, as well.

I would like to thank all the members of the Pune Design Foundation (and the
MCCIA) who actively helped to make this first event successful - whether
through direct participation, or by providing a proactive moral support.

Thank you,

- Pankaj Sapkal
Founder-Member, Pune Design Foundation
Coordinator - InnoCell Initiative
ex-IDC


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Dear Friends

I had missed the date and venue in my previous mail - Its on Friday 4th July at
The Park Hotel, Connaught Place, New Delhi. Please call Kalpana on +91
9810119518 for registration and passes.

Kyoorius Exchange kickstarts Kyoorius FYIDAY series by hosting Peter Kersten,
BNO Association of Dutch Designers; Anthony Lopez, Lopez Design; and Rajesh
Dahiya, Co-Design. Kyoorius FYIDAY is a series of face-to-face design dialogues
to provide a platform for knowledge sharing. It will be hosted on a rotational
basis at various cities across India.

Peter Kersten of BNO - the Association of Dutch Designers will discuss about
design management.

After his extensive time in the corporate environment (his last designation at
Canon was that of General Manager, Brand and Design Management in Canon's
Corporate Strategy Centre), Peter became President of the BNO - the Association
of Dutch Designers, a portfolio that he held for five years before stepping down
and becoming an honorary member of, and ambassador for, the BNO. These roles are
enriched by his being a member of the boards of the Bureau of European Design
Associations [BEDA], and the Dutch Design Management Network [DMN],
respectively.

Anthony Lopez of Lopez Design Delhi, and Rajesh Dahiya of CoDesign Delhi, will
be also speaking.

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Date:
Friday 4th July 2008

Program:
6.30PM-7.15pm: Peter Kersten
7.15pm-7.45pm: Q&A
7.45pm-8.10pm: Anthony Lopez
8.10pm-8.30pm: Rajesh Dahiya
8.30pm-10.00pm: Dinner + Networking

Venue
Mantra Hall, The Park, Connaught Place, New Delhi.

Entry by registration only. Limited Seats.
A design event by Kyoorius Exchange
Sponsored by Conqueror Papers, Visage Images/Getty Images and The Park, New
Delhi.
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Also view this on facebook http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=21559365772

Cheers and see you at various FYIday events across India. Watch for the next one
on 11th July in Mumbai.....

Warm Regards
Rajesh Kejriwal

Kyoorius Exchange
5, Garment House
37/43, Dr Annie Besant Road
Worli, Mumbai 400 018
Tel     : +91 22 5662 6950
Fax    : +91 22 5662 3959
Cell    : +91 98200 93069
Email: rajeshkejriwal@...


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Dear Udit,
I am glad that you have taken our effort seriously and wish to improve this only
Newsletter for popularizing the concepts of Universal/ Design For All/ Inclusive
Design/ Barrier Free Design in India.
We have achieved moderate success and we wish people like you �should join our
social movement and work for all living beings.
You are discussing about English language of newsletter , I fully endorsed your
view that I am not language expert and does the editing with my insignificant
knowledge. At present I am working single handedly and no support of anyone in
any form. I successfully published 42 monthly�issues without missing any issue.
I have published some special issue with IDSA, IAUD, Design For All Foundation,
EIDD and long list of country special.
I am inviting you kindly help me and work voluntarily to make the appearance of
our newsletter INTERNATIONAL as designers does.
I am also requesting kindly design our website free of cost to appeal national
and international audiences.
It is upto you to decide and make this newsletter a worth reading newsletter.
With regards.
Dr. Sunil Bhatia
Design For All Institute of India
www.designforall.in
dr_subha@...

--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:

From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of Design For All
Institute of India
To: designindia@...
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 5:41 PM






I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
a movement.

I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
caring about what others are doing."

All professionals in every field, design included, are active
networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
number of very relevant topics.

udit C

--- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, sunil bhatia <dr_subha@.. .> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?

Prof Lalit Das
>
> --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:
>
> From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
> Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
Design For All Institute of India
> To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>
>
> How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
> journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>
> Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
> visualisation! Very painful.
>
> Udit C
>
> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
> <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Friends
> > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6 is
> > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very special
> >


















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I don't agree that people should take "this" (designers' collective
activity, I suppose) as a mass movement. If whatever we do makes
touches everyone, just like a hit song touches all of us, that will be
  a movement.

I also vehemently object to the insinuation that "people ... are not
caring about what others are doing."

All professionals in every field, design included, are active
networkers and this list is as good a forum for it. We may not feed
your journal with articles or interviews necessarily, but we do have,
even if a few, very lively discussions and also share visuals on a
number of very relevant topics.

udit C


--- In designindia@..., sunil bhatia <dr_subha@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not caring
for what others are doing. Have you ever contributed articles, case
study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has appealed from this platform?

Prof Lalit Das
>
> --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:
>
> From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
> Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
Design For All Institute of India
> To: designindia@...
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>
>
> How can something published on design, especially a design-dedicated
> journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>
> Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of any
> visualisation! Very painful.
>
> Udit C
>
> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
> <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Friends
> > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6 is
> > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very special
> >

Dear Friends

Kyoorius Exchange kickstarts Kyoorius FYIDAY series by hosting Peter Kersten,
BNO Association of Dutch Designers; Anthony Lopez, Lopez Design; and Rajesh
Dahiya, Co-Design. Kyoorius FYIDAY is a series of face-to-face design dialogues
to provide a platform for knowledge sharing. It will be hosted on a rotational
basis at various cities across India.

Peter Kersten of BNO - the Association of Dutch Designers will discuss about
design management.

After his extensive time in the corporate environment (his last designation at
Canon was that of General Manager, Brand and Design Management in Canon's
Corporate Strategy Centre), Peter became President of the BNO - the Association
of Dutch Designers, a portfolio that he held for five years before stepping down
and becoming an honorary member of, and ambassador for, the BNO. These roles are
enriched by his being a member of the boards of the Bureau of European Design
Associations [BEDA], and the Dutch Design Management Network [DMN],
respectively.

Anthony Lopez of Lopez Design Delhi, and Rajesh Dahiya of CoDesign Delhi, will
be also speaking.

----------------------------------------
Program:
6.30PM-7.15pm: Peter Kersten
7.15pm-7.45pm: Q&A
7.45pm-8.10pm: Anthony Lopez
8.10pm-8.30pm: Rajesh Dahiya
8.30pm-10.00pm: Dinner + Networking

Entry by registration only. Limited Seats.
A design event by Kyoorius Exchange
Sponsored by Conqueror Papers, Visage Images/Getty Images and The Park, New
Delhi.
----------------------------------------
Also view this on facebook http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=21559365772

Cheers and see you at various FYIday events across India. Watch for the next one
on 11th July in Mumbai.....

Warm Regards
Rajesh Kejriwal

Kyoorius Exchange
5, Garment House
37/43, Dr Annie Besant Road
Worli, Mumbai 400 018
Tel     : +91 22 5662 6950
Fax    : +91 22 5662 3959
Cell    : +91 98200 93069
Email: rajeshkejriwal@...


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to begin with, make an 'unsubscribe' option available?. i get about five
copies of this newsletter to which i have not even subscribed to. this
is heavy duty spamming as each attachment is close to 3mb. a mail with
just a link to the newsletter would be the right step for better 'design
for all'?

regards. dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad

saumitri wrote:
>
> I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I
> am allowed to provide
> feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
> appreciate if my
> comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to
> contribute.
>
> ---
>


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I too completely agree with Bala and Udit. As its audience, I hope I am allowed
to provide
feedback in the interest of the improvement of the newsletter. I would
appreciate if my
comments are taken up in the right spirit, since I would like to contribute.

While design inputs are certainly required for this newsletter, what is also
important is
proof-reading of the content to weed out gross grammatical errors. While I do
understand
that English is not our own language, for the sake of good communication and
some
credibility, some amount of effort at improving the standard of the language
used in the
newsletter is certainly needed. This is akin to the importance of pronunciation
that Javed
Akhtar stresses on for singers who sing in the various channels on TV. Just as
good music
becomes jarring when pronunciation is not good, good reading too becomes
irritating
when the language used has gross grammatical errors.

The apparent lack of good design and language makes the newsletter lose
credibility.
Simply putting up names of Prof. Lalit Das or someone who is respected doesn't
make any
effort credible, when the newsletter's language and design and therefore
communication
is found inadequate.

I would surely contribute to the newsletter if I felt it was credible.

Best regards,
Saumitri

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--- In designindia@..., "A. Balasubramaniam"
<abalasubramaniam@...>
wrote:
>
> I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
> inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
> email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
> I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
> contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
> the newsletter too tedious to read.
> Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
> whole thing is fishy!!
> A.Balasubramaniam
> NID-'86
> Dean, IILM SChool of Design
>
>
>
>
> --- In designindia@..., sunil bhatia <dr_subha@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> > Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
> caring for what others are doing. Have you ever�contributed
> articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has�appealed
> from this platform�
> > Prof Lalit Das
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@>
> > Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
> Design For All Institute of India
> > To: designindia@...
> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How can something published on design, especially a design-
> dedicated
> > journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
> >
> > Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
> any
> > visualisation! Very painful.
> >
> > Udit C
> >
> > --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
> > <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Friends
> > > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
> is
> > > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
> special
> > > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
> > > many regular features
> > >
> > > 1. Chairman's Desk: �������������.2
> > > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15
> > > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District
> > > in India Using Universal
> > > Design Concepts
> �����������������..23
> > > 4. Home Modifications and Products for
> > > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43
> > > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67
> > > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
> > > President of Aaron Marcus And
> > > Associates,Inc
> > > Mr. Aaron Marcus�������������.73
> > > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87
> > > 9
> Letters:������������������.. 89
> > > 10 Appeal:��������� ��
> �������..92
> > > 11. News: �����������
> �������.101
> > > 12 Program & Events:������ � �����.110
> > > 13 Job Opening:
> ���������������..125
> > > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall. in for our current
> as
> > > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
> link
> > > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
> > >
> > > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
> re-
> > > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
> > > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
> > > suggestions.
> > > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
> to
> > > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-
> > > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
> > > Those who are interested in print version they can send their
> > > request to dr_subha@
> > > With regards
> > > Dr. Sunil Bhatia
> > > Design For All Institute Of India
> > > Dr_subha@
> > > www.designforall. in
> > > Tel 91-11-27853470( R)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I completely agree with Udit that the Newsletter needs design
inputs. I am curious to note that Prof Lalit Das uses Dr Bhatia's
email id to react to this in the mail given below!!??
I do not agree with both Dr Bhatia and Prof Das that if you have not
contributed to this, it means, one cannot comment on it. I too find
the newsletter too tedious to read.
Prof Das should use his own id and write his comments. Otherwise the
whole thing is fishy!!
A.Balasubramaniam
NID-'86
Dean, IILM SChool of Design




--- In designindia@..., sunil bhatia <dr_subha@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> Reason is people are not making this as mass movement and not
caring for what others are doing. Have you ever�contributed
articles, case study news etc whenever Dr. Sunil Bhatia has�appealed
from this platform�
> Prof Lalit Das
>
> --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...> wrote:
>
> From: Uditnarain Chaudhuri <uditnc@...>
> Subject: [designindia] Re: June 2008, Vol-3, No-6 Newsletter of
Design For All Institute of India
> To: designindia@...
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How can something published on design, especially a design-
dedicated
> journal, be so devoid of any design by itself?
>
> Verbalisation may be necessary, but this journal seems devoid of
any
> visualisation! Very painful.
>
> Udit C
>
> --- In designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in, "Dr. Sunil Bhatia"
> <dr_subha@ .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Friends
> > Notice of Publication of our newsletter of June 2008 Vol-3, No-6
is
> > in front of your computer screen.Our June 2008 issue is very
special
> > because it has the following articles, case study, interview and
> > many regular features
> >
> > 1. Chairman's Desk: �������������.2
> > 2. Featured Designers: ���� �������.15
> > 3. A Proposed Central/ Regional Business District
> > in India Using Universal
> > Design Concepts
�����������������..23
> > 4. Home Modifications and Products for
> > Safety and Ease of Use:����������.43
> > 6 Case Study: Ubiquitous Design������..67
> > 7. Interview: Face To Face:
> > President of Aaron Marcus And
> > Associates,Inc
> > Mr. Aaron Marcus�������������.73
> > 8 Book Received:������� �������.87
> > 9
Letters:������������������.. 89
> > 10 Appeal:��������� ��
�������..92
> > 11. News: �����������
�������.101
> > 12 Program & Events:������ � �����.110
> > 13 Job Opening:
���������������..125
> > Kindly visit our web site www.designforall. in for our current
as
> > well as past publication of our monthly newsletter or click this
link
> > http://www.designfo rall.in/newslett er_june_2008. pdf
> >
> > We have moderate success and many improvements are required to
re-
> > shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
> > movement of Design For All/ Universal Design. We welcome your
> > suggestions.
> > This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter
to
> > the concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-
> > mail to us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
> > Those who are interested in print version they can send their
> > request to dr_subha@
> > With regards
> > Dr. Sunil Bhatia
> > Design For All Institute Of India
> > Dr_subha@
> > www.designforall. in
> > Tel 91-11-27853470( R)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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