Dear Friends
I have just posted an article on my blog "Design for India" with a fairly
detailed illustrated note on our work in the bamboo sector aimed at rural
development in India. This post has links to a new digital book on bamboo
furniture and our macro-micro strategy called "Seedlings of Wealth". The
book is called "Katlamara Chalo" – meaning Come to Katlamara – and you can
download it from links on this webpage below:
<Katlamara Chalo: Seedlings of Wealth in
Action><http://design-for-india.blogspot.com/2009/02/katlamara-chalo-seedlings-o\
f-wealth-in.html>

At the foot of the post are links to several papers, books and websites on
the premises and intentions of the bamboo and design project which have been
written over the past twenty years, all done at NID, Ahmedabad with a large
number of collaborators including faculty colleagues and students. Do take a
look and this is work in progress and we would love to have your comments
and observations as we go forward from here.

With warm regards

M P Ranjan
from my iMac at home on the NID campus
1 March 2009 at 11.25 pm IST

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Prof M P Ranjan
Faculty of Design
Head, Centre for Bamboo Initiatives at NID (CFBI-NID)
Chairman, GeoVisualisation Task Group (DST, Govt. of India) (2006-2008)
National Institute of Design
Paldi
Ahmedabad 380 007 India

Tel: (off) 91 79 26623692 ext 1090
Tel: (res) 91 79 26610054
Fax: 91 79 26605242

email: ranjanmp@...
web site: http://homepage.mac.com/ranjanmp
web domain: http://www.ranjanmp.in
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Yellow Is the New Green
By ROSE GEORGE


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/opinion/27george.html?em

Toilets use up to 30 percent of a household’s water supply in the industrialized
world

This toilet — known as a “urine diversion,” or NoMix (after a Swedish brand)
toilet may be worth looking at for rural communities where water and sanitation
is increasingly becoming a problem.

The NoMix toilet's pan is divided in two: solid waste goes in the back, and the
front compartment collects urine.

Rose George argues that an "urine diversion" toilet can help save energy, water,
the oceans, and provide relatively cheap fertilizer for the fields.

"The liquids and solids can, after a decent period of storage and composting, be
applied to the fields as pathogen-free, expense-free fertilizer."

I recall seeing something like this in an outdoor toilet in a ecologist friend's
farm house in Kihim ten years ago.

Does anyone here know of other Indian alternatives to this?

Uma V Chandru
Environmental Designer & Anthropologist (Purdue University)
IIACD, Bengaluru





Uma V Chandru
Anthropologist & Designer

Executive Trustee & Faculty of Arts & Design, International Institute for Arts,
Culture and Democracy (IIACD)

Founder-Director: Ragini Arts Foundation
Bangalore, India

Mobile: +91-98440-80227
Email: uma@...
umavc@...
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Dear Prof Nadkarni,

The information about Handamade in India availability.

Art Book Centre at Ahmedabad can mail copies if requested.

Art Book Centre
Specialists in Books on Indian Art and Culture
Madalpur, Nr. Jain Temple, Ellis Bridge,
Ahmedabad – 380 007 INDIA

Email: artbookcenter_2000 (at) yahoo.com
Website: www.artbookcenter.net
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, sudhakar nadkarni <nadkarni36@...>wrote:

>   Ranjan
> i would like to remind you about aditi's book. tell me the publisher or i
> send you money and you buy for me. this time i certainly looking forward for
> response.
>
> nadkarni
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Prof M P Ranjan <ranjanmp@...<ranjanmp%40nid.edu>>
> wrote:
> From: Prof M P Ranjan <ranjanmp@... <ranjanmp%40nid.edu>>
> Subject: **designindia** New Design Book from an NID Faculty on Saris of
> India
> To: "NID Faculty" <faculty@... <faculty%40nid.edu>>, "designindia" <
> designindia@... <designindia%40yahoogroups.co.in>>
> Cc: "PHD-DESIGN" <PHD-DESIGN@... <PHD-DESIGN%40jiscmail.ac.uk>>,
> "anthrodesign" <anthrodesign@yahoogroups.com<anthrodesign%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> "ranjanmp" <ranjanmp@... <ranjanmp%40nid.edu>>
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:22 PM
>
> Dear friends
>
> I have just posted a note on my blog about the soon to be launched new
>
> book from an NID Faculty colleague, "Indian Saris: Traditions -
>
> Perspectives - Design" by Vijai Singh Katiyar. There will be a social
>
> function and a panel discussion at London on 20th April 2009 for the
>
> book launch by the publisher and the book can be pre-ordered from a
>
> number of sources online as well. Do take a look at the links below
>
> for details:
>
> <http://design- for-india. blogspot. com/2009/ 02/indian- saris-woven-
> fabrics-of- fantasy.html>
>
> <http://textiledesig ninindia- indiansaris. blogspot. com/>
>
> The Slumdog Millionare's sweep at the Oscar has brought a lot of
>
> attention to India and perhaps Indian fashion and its traditional sari
>
> too will have its place in the sun... our several million handloom
>
> weavers and their children would just love that.
>
> With warm regards
>
> M P Ranjan
>
> from my office at NID
>
> 26 February 2009 at 8.15 pm IST
>
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>
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>
> Prof M P Ranjan
>
> Faculty of Design
>
> Head, Centre for Bamboo Initiatives at NID (CFBI-NID)
>
> Chairman, GeoVisualisation Task Group (DST, Govt. of India) (2006-2008)
>
> National Institute of Design
>
> Paldi
>
> Ahmedabad 380 007 India
>
> Tel: (off) 91 79 26623692 ext 1090
>
> Tel: (res) 91 79 26610054
>
> Fax: 91 79 26605242
>
> email: ranjanmp@nid. edu
>
> web site: http://homepage. mac.com/ranjanmp
>
> web domain: http://www.ranjanmp .in
>
> blog: <http://www.design- for-india. blogspot. com>
>
> education blog: <http://www.design- concepts- and-concerns. blogspot. com>
>
> education blog: http://www.visible- information- india.blogspot. com
>
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--
Praveen Nahar
Faculty of Industrial Design
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF DESIGN
Paldi, Ahmedabad 380 007 INDIA
Ph: +91-79-2662 3692 Extn 1083
Fax:+91-79-2662 1171
Email:pnahar@... <Email%3Apnahar@...>


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Hello folks,

I work with the IxDA Conan infrastructure team that was formed to examine
the discussion list / website in its current form and redesign / re-haul
ixda.org. We had recently carried out a survey online as well as at the
recent IxDA conference in Vancouver, the results of which have been put
online. The main aim of the survey was to identify emerging needs of the
members and articulate a better roadmap for the community platform.

Thought this might be of interest to many of you.

Regards,

Mayur
NID 2003

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This message is a progress report from the IxDA Conan infrastructure team to
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hello Mr. Dhanya Pilo,

you can call me on 09971022297. i am based in delhi.

regards
manoj kumar

Dear Friends
Our February 2009 Vol-4, No-2 issue of Newsletter is special with  AUDN of
Taiwan Design Center. CEO of Taiwan Design Center Mr. Tony K.M Chang is the
guest editor of this issue.
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The content of February 2009 Vol-4, No-2
 
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…………………………………………………..2
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5. Design Solutions for an aging community:
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Ranjan
i would like to remind you about aditi's book. tell me the publisher or i send
you money and you buy for me. this time i certainly looking forward for
response.

nadkarni

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Prof M P Ranjan <ranjanmp@...> wrote:
From: Prof M P Ranjan <ranjanmp@...>
Subject: **designindia** New Design Book from an NID Faculty on Saris of India
To: "NID Faculty" <faculty@...>, "designindia"
<designindia@...>
Cc: "PHD-DESIGN" <PHD-DESIGN@...>, "anthrodesign"
<anthrodesign@yahoogroups.com>, "ranjanmp" <ranjanmp@...>
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:22 PM












             Dear friends



I have just posted a note on my blog about the soon to be launched new

book from an NID Faculty colleague,  "Indian Saris: Traditions -

Perspectives - Design" by Vijai Singh Katiyar. There will be a social

function and a panel discussion at London on 20th April 2009 for the

book launch by the publisher and the book can be pre-ordered from a

number of sources online as well. Do take a look at the links below

for details:

<http://design- for-india. blogspot. com/2009/ 02/indian- saris-woven-
fabrics-of- fantasy.html>

<http://textiledesig ninindia- indiansaris. blogspot. com/>



The Slumdog Millionare's sweep at the Oscar has brought a lot of

attention to India and perhaps Indian fashion and its traditional sari

too will have its place in the sun... our several million handloom

weavers and their children would just love that.



With warm regards



M P Ranjan

from my office at NID

26 February 2009 at 8.15 pm IST

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Prof M P Ranjan

Faculty of Design

Head, Centre for Bamboo Initiatives at NID (CFBI-NID)

Chairman, GeoVisualisation Task Group (DST, Govt. of India) (2006-2008)

National Institute of Design

Paldi

Ahmedabad 380 007 India



Tel: (off) 91 79 26623692 ext 1090

Tel: (res) 91 79 26610054

Fax: 91 79 26605242



email: ranjanmp@nid. edu

web site: http://homepage. mac.com/ranjanmp

web domain: http://www.ranjanmp .in

blog: <http://www.design- for-india. blogspot. com>

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Thanks for this, Ramu

Deepankar Bhattacharyya
Images Communications, New Delhi, India

mailto: deepankar.post@...

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Ramu Dhara <dharar@...> wrote:
From: Ramu Dhara <dharar@...>
Subject: **designindia** newsweek article by sudip majumdar--a former streetkid
sizes up slumdog
To: designindia@...
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:48 AM












             he says it all in a more eloquent way that i do.  For that record i
have never lived in a slum but did spend a month in a chawl in mumbai near Khar
and the despair and the invisible existense of the average persons life in these
condition still remains a gut wrenching indelible memory



http://www.newsweek .com/id/185798



Ramu Dhara

Media Studiies





























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Dear friends

I have just posted a note on my blog about the soon to be launched new
book from an NID Faculty colleague,  "Indian Saris: Traditions -
Perspectives - Design" by Vijai Singh Katiyar. There will be a social
function and a panel discussion at London on 20th April 2009 for the
book launch by the publisher and the book can be pre-ordered from a
number of sources online as well. Do take a look at the links below
for details:
<http://design-for-india.blogspot.com/2009/02/indian-saris-woven-fabrics-of-fant\
asy.html>
<http://textiledesigninindia-indiansaris.blogspot.com/>

The Slumdog Millionare's sweep at the Oscar has brought a lot of
attention to India and perhaps Indian fashion and its traditional sari
too will have its place in the sun... our several million handloom
weavers and their children would just love that.

With warm regards

M P Ranjan
from my office at NID
26 February 2009 at 8.15 pm IST
--
-------------------------------------------------------------

Prof M P Ranjan
Faculty of Design
Head, Centre for Bamboo Initiatives at NID (CFBI-NID)
Chairman, GeoVisualisation Task Group (DST, Govt. of India) (2006-2008)
National Institute of Design
Paldi
Ahmedabad 380 007 India

Tel: (off) 91 79 26623692 ext 1090
Tel: (res) 91 79 26610054
Fax: 91 79 26605242

email: ranjanmp@...
web site: http://homepage.mac.com/ranjanmp
web domain: http://www.ranjanmp.in
blog: <http://www.design-for-india.blogspot.com>
education blog: <http://www.design-concepts-and-concerns.blogspot.com>
education blog: http://www.visible-information-india.blogspot.com

------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Friends
Our February 2009 Vol-4, No-2 issue of Newsletter is special with
AUDN of Taiwan Design Center. CEO of Taiwan Design Center Mr. Tony
K.M Chang is the guest editor of this issue.
The notice of publication is in front of your computer and the
newsletter can be downloaded from our website www.designforall.in  or
    click the following link
http://www.designforall.in/newsletter_February2009.pdf

The content of February 2009 Vol-4, No-2

1. Chairman's Desk : …………………………………………………..2
2. Editor's Desk: ……………………………………………………….15
3. AUDN to Nurture a Better Tomorrow:……………………….18
4. Asian Universal Design Network: …………………………….23
5.  Design Solutions for an aging community:
      an opportunity for cross boundary corporate social
      responsibility:……………………………………………………….38
6. >60 Design Centre:…………………………………………………43
7. Inclusive Design in Hong Kong :……………………………….50
8. The Impressive Taiwan Universal Design Award :………60
9. Introduction of Universal Design Award in Korea:………73
Other regular features
We have moderate success and many improvements are required to re-
shape for the actual impacts of the newsletter for our social
movement of Design For All/Universal Design. We welcome your
suggestions.
This e- newsletter is free and you can forward this newsletter to the
concern persons for their reference. If you intimate their e-mail to
us, we shall gladly enroll them in our database.
Those who are interested in print version they can send their request
to dr_subha@... circulate our newsletter among your
members. It is our further request you kindly encourage your readers
for contribution of their articles in our newsletter.
With regards
Dr. Sunil Bhatia
Design For All Institute Of India
www.designforall.in
Dr_subha@...
91-11-27853470®

he says it all in a more eloquent way that i do.  For that record i have never
lived in a slum but did spend a month in a chawl in mumbai near Khar and the
despair and the invisible existense of the average persons life in these
condition still remains a gut wrenching indelible memory

http://www.newsweek.com/id/185798

Ramu Dhara
Media Studiies

Some of you may be interested in this -

"Siddharth - The Prisoner", a feature film in Hindi Written &
Directed by NID Film & Video PG student Pryas Gupta (batch: 2002
entry) is releasing across India (including Ahmedabad, Bangalore,
Delhi, Kolkata, Mumbai and Pune) tomorrow (27th February 2009).

The film originally began its journey in 2005 as Pryas' NID Film &
Video Diploma project. Some of his then NID classmates (Hitesh
Kewalya, Jeneva Talwar, Dipali Kane and Abeer Gupta) have also made
significant contributions to it.

The film has earlier won the Jury Grand Prize at 2008 Asia Pacific
Screen Awards, Australia and the Best Actor Award at the 2008
Osian's-Cinefan Film Festival, New Delhi.

Synopsis: Just back from prison, Siddharth (Rajat Kapoor), a famed
writer, must now start life afresh. Trying to mingle with the world
again he hopes that his new book will put him back on the map,
reconcile with his estranged wife and help him regain his lost
glory. But a misstep at a cyber cafe causes him to lose the
manuscript of his book, keeping in its stead loads of money, which
give him neither peace nor redemption.

Try and see the film if you can.

- Arun Gupta
Senior Faculty & Coordinator
Film & Video, National Institute of Design (NID)
Ahmedabad, India

A very interesting and playful presentation (especially for graphics,
animation and interactive designers) by comic impresario Scott McCloud

Although the presentation is called "Understanding comics", what Mr. McCloud
is talking about is vision, visual narrative, our attitude towards seeing
etc.

Duration: 17.5 min

Check this out:

http://dd.dynamicdiagrams.com/2009/01/examples-symbols-and-signposts/

Regards

Sagarmoy Paul
THOUGHTSCAPE
New Delhi


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fyi

http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=47914


A Design Education Campus of National Institute of Design (NID), Department
of Industrial Policy & Promotion, will be set up in Bhopal for imparting
education in design, applied research, training, design consultancy services
and outreach programmes. The Institute, being set up at the initiative of
Shri Kamal Nath, Union Minister of Commerce & Industry, would function from
a 12 hectare campus.

The NID, Ahmedabad has already taken steps to conduct some fundamental
programmes in design in collaboration with Rajiv Gandhi Technological
University (RGTU) so as to foster design-technology initiative in Bhopal and
help potential students of RGTU to opt Design as High Education Career
option when the Institute would start functioning.

The NID is one of the premier institutions in the field of design and has
been recognized as a scientific and industrial research organisation. It is
among the top ranking design schools of Europe and Asia and it was
established in 1961 as an autonomous institution under the Government of
India.

The Industrial Design module will be introduced in June 2010 in the various
engineering departments of Rajiv Gandhi Technical University of Bhopal, for
getting the overview of industrial design which will help the students from
Bachelor of Mechanical engineering, Production engineering and also
Electronic Engineering to understand more about Design. A one-year
Certificate Programme on design for engineering / technology will commence
during June 2010 and further, commencement of 2-year PG programme from June
2011, from new Campus.

--
Manish Govind Pillewar
Bangalore
NID PGDPD 0205
Thoughtworks


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dear ramu,

like i very honestly started off, "im not too well versed with world economics
or its working but my FEELING is this."
i really dont have any facts and figures, just assumptions based on things ive
been reading (not studying) and experiencing and ofcourse, wishful thinking.

some things you cant refute are these. you have a high % of foreigners applying
for design and film/production related jobs in mumbai, accepting the same price
as an indian trainee would.
more and more production related, vfx, postprod houses are working on indian
projects and sometimes they are called in because they are not only good (not
necessarily better) but also actually cheaper.

when you see how movies do well abroad and make 200 million $ (2 followed by 8
zeros), in india we are happy is we make even 200crores (2 followed by 9 zeros),
it looks like money is not being made at par in india, but if you look closely,
it means that in india maybe 10times more people are watching it. so keeping in
mind that 10 or 100 times more people are watching films (as there are that many
more films coming out of india), the prospects are much better here. and
starting with joint productions, the aim would be to set up more and more
infrastructure in india. and with the indian industry opening out to
non-formula, only now is when all that they sell can make sense here.

oscar is to show everyone here that this is where we can reach, if we
collaborate. if we still hadnt been given an oscar then we would have lost the
enthusiasm to look towards that side anyway. which eventually would be a big
loss..to them.
who cares if slumdog was not an indian film. we have claimed ownership and noone
will refute it.

now since this mail has become longer than i hoped for, i will give you another
analogy which helped me see from this overall point of view.
2-3yrs back, when we had the airforce exercises with the US, out of 10 tactical
fights 7-8 were won by the indian officers flying sukhois and 2 by the US f-16s.
we all felt damn happy about it. we are the best etc. but a senior exairforce
officer i know had another point of view. he said, the point was to drive home
one simple thing, US was saying that if with ex-amazing sukhois, your brilliant
pilots could beat us like so, imagine what they could do with the ongoing latest
state of the art technologies of the f-16s and f-18s series. and guess what we
are going to start buying soon.



i dont know yet what keynsian economics is, yet, will find out.
ive never heard of Adoor Goplakrishnan as im not actually a cinema buff

im a lateral thinking bystander who likes to see things in another way and throw
it open for discussion so that i'll learn something more than what the media
tells me.

Deepak Pathania
Director,
Design Intervention (I) Pvt. Ltd.

NID-1990-95


"You miss 100% of the shots you never take."
- Wayne Gretsky



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ramu Dhara
   To: designindia@...
   Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:02 AM
   Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars- an objective viewpoint


   Deepak

   Do these "standards" of beauty apply to men too? What about a history timeline
for changing standards of beauty among men..:))

   Slumdog as has been pointed out by Uday was a British director/mixed crew film
made with american money and is a big hit in the US and UK and that should say a
lot. I can't speak for India but then every "for profit" enterprise seeks new
markets--thats a simple keynsian fact of market economics.

   Are you sure about your facts about Holywood going bankrupt or is that a
wishful sentiment being projected. I mean have you actually reasearch the studio
finances? Not sure if i heard studio's running to the Feds for bailout packages!

   The "recession" bites India too btw and as I noted on my recent trip--the
level of unemplyment has gone up starkly--we never notice this because the
general level of emplyment and under-emplyment is itself high --I could not even
hazard a figure because it has probably always been way above the 10% mark which
is a figure that the US is likely to hit now in this recession

   Standards of what is considered "good" film do widely differ. And what is
considered "good" by film business may not be the same as one considered good by
film critics--Would you say consider Adoor Goplakrishnan good cinema?

   Ramu Dhara
   Media Studiies
   >>> "deepak pathania" <designtalk@...> 02/25/09 12:45 AM
>>>
   im not too well versed with world economics or its working but my feeling is
this.

   in the last century all throughout indian girls were 'ok' in the international
good looks chapter, with recognition once in a while. all that was while our
foreign and trade policies were mostly inclusive. then sometime in the late 80s,
early 90s i think, we opened up to international players to set up in india.
suddenly our girls started becoming more beautiful internationally and started
to win miss universe and miss world and the lot, every year there was one winner
at some level if not three. the sudden change was to get the indian psyche to
start putting more effort into beauty, by making themselves conscious about it
and therefore buy beauty products.

   similarily,
   movies were being made for a long time in india, bollywood, lollywood and the
lots. millions. never would have anything won, as never was a need to even look
this side of the globe.
   now, when the world, america is getting bankrupt, hollywood is getting
bankrupt, both from production finance point of view as well as viewership point
of view, suddenly the focus is to start building production units into and
getting india involved. also many richest people are indians, and many of them
ARE interested in the film making business, and interms of viewership, we may
soon cross the 2 billon mark too. so i feel, this is just the start of indian
oscar generation as from now, similar to the missworlds.
   i love rahman, and movie slumd...... and they deserve everything and more, but
there were many beautiful movies made earlier too, but they, like most indian
women prior to the 1990s, they hardly stood a chance.

   the light is definitely on india, we should welcome the opportunity with open
arms. the west wants to let us know we are good enough, they want to co-produce
and co-deliver co-exist. and the time is right for us. thank god for recession.

   Deepak Pathania
   Director,
   Design Intervention (I) Pvt. Ltd.
   NID-1990-95

   "The best way to have a good idea is to have lots of ideas."
   - Linus Pauling

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ramu Dhara
   To: designindia@...
   Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:38 PM
   Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars

   Actually i will fill in with my 2 paise here--its take a british director who
did "tTrainspotting" (his earlier work) which as some suggest inspired City of
God (brazil) to take an indian slum narrative with to the Oscars 60 odd years
later and hopefully, wake up some of our slumbering middle class who are mostly
inured to their realities outside their insulated enviroments--some have called
it Slum porn while other's celebrate. I'm not sure if we should be celebrating a
reality that needs to be addressed now!

   The government talks about being proud but I'm not sure what that means to me.
Am i to remain proud that we have many of our children living in squalor in our
slums. A few make it out into the rag to riches story, what of the rest?

   Our colonial relationships with our ex-colonizers are deep and complex and I
belive we don't always need them to remind us of the work that needs to be done
by us not them and its curious that it takes them to remind us of that--I hope
we don't just celebrate the "awards" given in the west and are we constantly
seeking some sense of re-affirmation because we are that insecure?

   As a work of art perhaps the recognition of talent remains gratifying to many
but i humbly suggest that our middle class needs to change their mind sets and
re-examine the fact that we don't need to be proud merely to win Oscars but
proud that we are doing something about the reality shown. Vindication for
artistic talents is one part of the struggle

   Ramu Dhara
   ED 87

   Ramu Dhara
   Media Studiies
   >>> Uday Dandavate <uday@...> 02/24/09 10:28 AM >>>
   First Gandhi and now SlumDog have caught the imagination of the world.
   As I speak with my American friends, I find a great interest,
   curiosity and a renewed sense of deep connection to a reality that is
   not a part of their imagination.

   Why is it that these movies made collaboratively succeed in capturing
   popular imagination, whereas some others that we in India sincerely
   hoped and took pride in, never did go beyond nominations. The answer
   is in Co-creation. It is all about making things meaningful to people
   of multiple perspectives and multiple sense making lenses.

   We need to recognize that different people see, sense, and interpret
   the same situation in multiple ways. That gets even more complex when
   the people experiencing the same moment come from different cultural
   backgrounds, ideological orientation, or emotional states. However,
   human mind, and human genes respond to some events universally,
   intuitively and deeply. The point is to look for issues that
   transcend difference and bring something out that turns out to be
   meaningful to all- not necessarily in the same way to each member of
   the audience but in different ways. There is no reason to impose the
   same message universally to all the members of the audience. A
   classical creation is one that allows for multiple interpretations
   from multiple audiences, because it respect that there is no one
   reality but that reality is a reconciliation of multiple perspectives.

   I have drawn a lot of learning and inspiration from popular media,
   because in response to it I find a true reflection of human mind and
   that excites me. Hopefully, as Sudhir suggested we can continue to
   build something similar for the global community through design.

   Take care

   Uday

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hi Kaustav

This is Soham Sarcar. We were co speakers at the colour conference. It seems
some guys actually thought of the enterprising idea long before slumdog
millionaire was released :) Reality Tours and travels which conducts a day
tour around dharavi. http://www.realitytoursandtravel.com/


Thanks and Regards


Soham Sarcar

& Then
And Then Digital Arts Pvt. Ltd.
MSU 99-03





On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:38 PM, kaustav sen <kaustavsengupta@...>wrote:

> When I posted my prediction (posted in slideshare a month ago...pre oscar
> obviously) about the influences that SD will create in global lifestyle
> scenario ("great glam slum trip to Dharavi") the viewrs at slideshare
> mentioned "Really.. Is it a joke??"...now yahoo confirms that the hottest
> travel destination is MUMBAI @ DHARAVI.
> Read this and more:
>
> "Mumbai is not just about glitz and glamour. It is the heart and soul of
> India, and Dharavi, is one of it's famed localities. It was in the slums of
> Dharavi that 'Slumdog Millionaire' was shot. Dharavi and Mumbai are now one
> of the top Oscar destinations of the season."
>
> Source:
> http://in.news.yahoo.com/photos/slideshow/top-10-oscar-destinations.html
>
> you can check the presentation at :
>
>
http://www.slideshare.net/kaustavsengupta/slumdog-and-its-influences-part-one-ka\
ustav-sengupta-presentation
>
>
> best regards,
>
> Kaustav
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
-------------------------------------------------
> Kaustav SenGupta
> Associate Professor
> Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories
> NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FASHION TECHNOLOGY
> NIFT Campus
> Chennai- Tamilnadu
> India
> &
> Internal Design Consultant (IDC)
> SGSY Project-NIFT- Govt. of India
> &
> Founder, Modarator & Head
> http://ingene.blogspot.com
> (The first ever Indian youth trend research blog recognized by Google : a
> not for profit initiative "INgene" with more than 300 trendspotters all over
> India)
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
--------------------------------------------------
> --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Amitabh Bendre <apv2004@...> wrote:
>
> From: Amitabh Bendre <apv2004@...>
> Subject: **designindia** Fwd: Opening as design head
> To: designindia@...
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 4:50 AM
>
> Maggpie is looking for the below position,
> If anyone is interested, get in touch with me or Tarek Utturkar,
> Tarek.Utturkar@....
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> ----- Forwarded by Amitabh Pramod Bendre/FURNITURE/DEL/CD-I/HSIL on
> 02/24/2009 06:15 PM -----
>
> *"Utturkar, Tarek" <Tarek.Utturkar@...>*
>
> 02/24/2009 05:55 PM
> To
> <amitabh@...>cc
> Subject
> Opening as design head
>
>
>
>
> Dear Amitabh,
>
> as discussed on telephone I have an opening for the position of a design
> and
> development head. The person must have experience and should be able to
> handle a staff of around 7 – 8 designers under him/her. The job is related
> to the high end kitchen furniture segment. The person should have good
> leader qualities and be able to build a team. He/she will report to the
> management directly. He/she will interact with the production head,
> purchase
> and suppliers. The company for which this position is open is a very high
> profile company and unlike other Indian companies is really very open to
> new
> things. A Design head who wants to create news things would feel at home in
> this company. The placement would be in Gurgaon. It would be great if you
> have some lead to pass on to me along with the remuneration package
> expected.
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
>
> Tarek Utturkar
> Product Manager
>
> Grass GmbH & Co. KG
> Egerländer Str. 2, 64354 Reinheim, Deutschland
> Tel.:      0049(0)6162802259
> Fax:      0049(0)6162802221
> Mail:      *tarek.utturkar@...* <tarek.utturkar@...>
> Web:   *www.grass.at* <http://www.grass.at/>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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Deepak

Do these "standards" of beauty apply to men too?  What about a history timeline
for changing standards of beauty among men..:))

Slumdog as has been pointed out by Uday was a British director/mixed crew film
made with american money and is a big hit in the US and UK and that should say a
lot.  I can't speak for India but then every "for profit" enterprise seeks new
markets--thats a simple keynsian fact of market economics.

Are you sure about your facts about Holywood going bankrupt or is that a wishful
sentiment being projected.  I mean have you actually reasearch the studio
finances?  Not sure if i heard studio's running to the Feds for bailout
packages!

The "recession" bites India too btw and as I noted on my recent trip--the level
of unemplyment has gone up starkly--we never notice this because the general
level of emplyment and under-emplyment is itself high --I could not even hazard
a figure because it has probably always been way above the 10% mark which is a
figure that the US is likely to hit now in this recession

Standards of what is considered "good" film do widely differ.  And what is
considered "good" by film business may not be the same as one considered good by
film critics--Would you say consider Adoor Goplakrishnan good cinema?

Ramu Dhara
Media Studiies
>>> "deepak pathania" <designtalk@...> 02/25/09 12:45 AM >>>
im not too well versed with world economics or its working but my feeling is
this.

in the last century all throughout indian girls were 'ok' in the international
good looks chapter, with recognition once in a while. all that was while our
foreign and trade policies were mostly inclusive. then sometime in the late 80s,
early 90s i think, we opened up to international players to set up in india.
suddenly our girls started becoming more beautiful internationally and started
to win miss universe and miss world and the lot, every year there was one winner
at some level if not three. the sudden change was to get the indian psyche to
start putting more effort into beauty, by making themselves conscious about it
and therefore buy beauty products.

similarily,
movies were being made for a long time in india, bollywood, lollywood and the
lots. millions. never would have anything won, as never was a need to even look
this side of the globe.
now, when the world, america is getting bankrupt, hollywood is getting bankrupt,
both from production finance point of view as well as viewership point of view,
suddenly the focus is to start building production units into and getting india
involved. also many richest people are indians, and many of them ARE interested
in the film making business, and interms of viewership, we may soon cross the 2
billon mark too. so i feel, this is just the start of indian oscar generation as
from now, similar to the missworlds.
i love rahman, and movie slumd...... and they deserve everything and more, but
there were many beautiful movies made earlier too, but they, like most indian
women prior to the 1990s, they hardly stood a chance.

the light is definitely on india, we should welcome the opportunity with open
arms. the west wants to let us know we are good enough, they want to co-produce
and co-deliver co-exist. and the time is right for us. thank god for recession.

Deepak Pathania
Director,
Design Intervention (I) Pvt. Ltd.
NID-1990-95


"The best way to have a good idea is to have lots of ideas."
- Linus Pauling




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ramu Dhara
   To: designindia@...
   Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:38 PM
   Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars


   Actually i will fill in with my 2 paise here--its take a british director who
did "tTrainspotting" (his earlier work) which as some suggest inspired City of
God (brazil) to take an indian slum narrative with to the Oscars 60 odd years
later and hopefully, wake up some of our slumbering middle class who are mostly
inured to their realities outside their insulated enviroments--some have called
it Slum porn while other's celebrate. I'm not sure if we should be celebrating a
reality that needs to be addressed now!

   The government talks about being proud but I'm not sure what that means to me.
Am i to remain proud that we have many of our children living in squalor in our
slums. A few make it out into the rag to riches story, what of the rest?

   Our colonial relationships with our ex-colonizers are deep and complex and I
belive we don't always need them to remind us of the work that needs to be done
by us not them and its curious that it takes them to remind us of that--I hope
we don't just celebrate the "awards" given in the west and are we constantly
seeking some sense of re-affirmation because we are that insecure?

   As a work of art perhaps the recognition of talent remains gratifying to many
but i humbly suggest that our middle class needs to change their mind sets and
re-examine the fact that we don't need to be proud merely to win Oscars but
proud that we are doing something about the reality shown. Vindication for
artistic talents is one part of the struggle

   Ramu Dhara
   ED 87

   Ramu Dhara
   Media Studiies
   >>> Uday Dandavate <uday@...> 02/24/09 10:28 AM >>>
   First Gandhi and now SlumDog have caught the imagination of the world.
   As I speak with my American friends, I find a great interest,
   curiosity and a renewed sense of deep connection to a reality that is
   not a part of their imagination.

   Why is it that these movies made collaboratively succeed in capturing
   popular imagination, whereas some others that we in India sincerely
   hoped and took pride in, never did go beyond nominations. The answer
   is in Co-creation. It is all about making things meaningful to people
   of multiple perspectives and multiple sense making lenses.

   We need to recognize that different people see, sense, and interpret
   the same situation in multiple ways. That gets even more complex when
   the people experiencing the same moment come from different cultural
   backgrounds, ideological orientation, or emotional states. However,
   human mind, and human genes respond to some events universally,
   intuitively and deeply. The point is to look for issues that
   transcend difference and bring something out that turns out to be
   meaningful to all- not necessarily in the same way to each member of
   the audience but in different ways. There is no reason to impose the
   same message universally to all the members of the audience. A
   classical creation is one that allows for multiple interpretations
   from multiple audiences, because it respect that there is no one
   reality but that reality is a reconciliation of multiple perspectives.

   I have drawn a lot of learning and inspiration from popular media,
   because in response to it I find a true reflection of human mind and
   that excites me. Hopefully, as Sudhir suggested we can continue to
   build something similar for the global community through design.

   Take care

   Uday





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

When I posted my prediction (posted in slideshare a month ago...pre oscar
obviously) about the influences that SD will create in global lifestyle scenario
("great glam slum trip to Dharavi") the viewrs at slideshare mentioned "Really..
Is it a joke??"...now yahoo confirms that the hottest travel destination is
MUMBAI @ DHARAVI.
Read this and more:
 
"Mumbai is not just about glitz and glamour. It is the heart and soul of India,
and Dharavi, is one of it's famed localities. It was in the slums of Dharavi
that 'Slumdog Millionaire' was shot. Dharavi and Mumbai are now one of the top
Oscar destinations of the season."

Source:http://in.news.yahoo.com/photos/slideshow/top-10-oscar-destinations.html
 
you can check the presentation at :
http://www.slideshare.net/kaustavsengupta/slumdog-and-its-influences-part-one-ka\
ustav-sengupta-presentation

 
best regards,
 
Kaustav
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
-------------------------------------------------
Kaustav SenGupta
Associate Professor
Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FASHION TECHNOLOGY
NIFT Campus
Chennai- Tamilnadu
India
&
Internal Design Consultant (IDC)
SGSY Project-NIFT- Govt. of India
&
Founder, Modarator & Head
http://ingene.blogspot.com
(The first ever Indian youth trend research blog recognized by Google : a not
for profit initiative "INgene" with more than 300 trendspotters all over India)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
--------------------------------------------------
--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Amitabh Bendre <apv2004@...> wrote:

From: Amitabh Bendre <apv2004@...>
Subject: **designindia** Fwd: Opening as design head
To: designindia@...
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 4:50 AM

Maggpie is looking for the below position,
If anyone is interested, get in touch with me or Tarek Utturkar,
Tarek.Utturkar@....



Regards,

----- Forwarded by Amitabh Pramod Bendre/FURNITURE/DEL/CD-I/HSIL on
02/24/2009 06:15 PM -----

*"Utturkar, Tarek" <Tarek.Utturkar@...>*

02/24/2009 05:55 PM
To
<amitabh@...>cc
Subject
Opening as design head




Dear Amitabh,

as discussed on telephone I have an opening for the position of a design and
development head. The person must have experience and should be able to
handle a staff of around 7 – 8 designers under him/her. The job is related
to the high end kitchen furniture segment. The person should have good
leader qualities and be able to build a team. He/she will report to the
management directly. He/she will interact with the production head, purchase
and suppliers. The company for which this position is open is a very high
profile company and unlike other Indian companies is really very open to new
things. A Design head who wants to create news things would feel at home in
this company. The placement would be in Gurgaon. It would be great if you
have some lead to pass on to me along with the remuneration package
expected.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

Tarek Utturkar
Product Manager

Grass GmbH & Co. KG
Egerländer Str. 2, 64354 Reinheim, Deutschland
Tel.:      0049(0)6162802259
Fax:      0049(0)6162802221
Mail:      *tarek.utturkar@...* <tarek.utturkar@...>
Web:   *www.grass.at* <http://www.grass.at/>



------------------------------
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Hi,
Well I don't really know if I should feel jubilant or not.

End of the day, any award is a business, we might choose to believe it or
not. Yes, some of them also do recognize true talent,
most of them just promote some agenda.

India has been seen in the past as the unexplored, unexploited destination
(read market) by many sectors and many industries. The sudden
winning streak at the Miss World/Miss Universe was not because suddenly the
Indian women became beautiful, rather beautiful enough to be
acknowledged and recognised by the world. Beauty has always existed in
India. It was time for beauty products to reap bigger profits by selling
their sticks
and cakes in this market.

India did really well at Cannes Advertising festival last year. Result, this
year will see 10 times more entries from India for these awards. Believe me
the amount of money that is generated by the entry fee is no joke. It's a
business, end of the day.

Besides Indian locations and Indian talent, SlumDog has nothing really
Indian in it. It's a non-Indian man's viewpoint of Indian life, which is so
everyday phenomenon for us Indians,
that has caught the imagination of people, most of whom probably don't even
know where the map of India fits in the globe. The markets in the West are
depleting fast,
new ground has to be found overnight. India happens to be one, at least the
numbers seem so attractive. And we are hungry, so hungry for recognition by
the West.

Rahman has delivered much, much better sound in the past. Was the world
listening then? No, at that time they had enough consumers in their own
markets. We Indians always
recognised Rahman's talent, why do we need the West to justify and tell us
now that he is really good? There are bigger awards for sound than an Oscar.
And I personally feel AR is already
beyond all these awards put together.

The movie is another attempt to sell the 'exotic' yet 'third world' India to
an audience which has no clue what India and living in India is about. On
the other hand, the awards will hopefully
'inspire' many more Indians to put their money into Western productions.
Quite a win-win, wonder who's laughing all the way to the bank.


Syed Usman
StudioHonk
Gurgaon







On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM, deepak pathania <
designtalk@...> wrote:

>   im not too well versed with world economics or its working but my
> feeling is this.
>
> in the last century all throughout indian girls were 'ok' in the
> international good looks chapter, with recognition once in a while. all that
> was while our foreign and trade policies were mostly inclusive. then
> sometime in the late 80s, early 90s i think, we opened up to international
> players to set up in india. suddenly our girls started becoming more
> beautiful internationally and started to win miss universe and miss world
> and the lot, every year there was one winner at some level if not three. the
> sudden change was to get the indian psyche to start putting more effort into
> beauty, by making themselves conscious about it and therefore buy beauty
> products.
>
> similarily,
> movies were being made for a long time in india, bollywood, lollywood and
> the lots. millions. never would have anything won, as never was a need to
> even look this side of the globe.
> now, when the world, america is getting bankrupt, hollywood is getting
> bankrupt, both from production finance point of view as well as viewership
> point of view, suddenly the focus is to start building production units into
> and getting india involved. also many richest people are indians, and many
> of them ARE interested in the film making business, and interms of
> viewership, we may soon cross the 2 billon mark too. so i feel, this is just
> the start of indian oscar generation as from now, similar to the missworlds.
> i love rahman, and movie slumd...... and they deserve everything and more,
> but there were many beautiful movies made earlier too, but they, like most
> indian women prior to the 1990s, they hardly stood a chance.
>
> the light is definitely on india, we should welcome the opportunity with
> open arms. the west wants to let us know we are good enough, they want to
> co-produce and co-deliver co-exist. and the time is right for us. thank god
> for recession.
>
> Deepak Pathania
> Director,
> Design Intervention (I) Pvt. Ltd.
> NID-1990-95
>
> "The best way to have a good idea is to have lots of ideas."
> - Linus Pauling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ramu Dhara
> To: designindia@... <designindia%40yahoogroups.co.in>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars
>
> Actually i will fill in with my 2 paise here--its take a british director
> who did "tTrainspotting" (his earlier work) which as some suggest inspired
> City of God (brazil) to take an indian slum narrative with to the Oscars 60
> odd years later and hopefully, wake up some of our slumbering middle class
> who are mostly inured to their realities outside their insulated
> enviroments--some have called it Slum porn while other's celebrate. I'm not
> sure if we should be celebrating a reality that needs to be addressed now!
>
> The government talks about being proud but I'm not sure what that means to
> me. Am i to remain proud that we have many of our children living in squalor
> in our slums. A few make it out into the rag to riches story, what of the
> rest?
>
> Our colonial relationships with our ex-colonizers are deep and complex and
> I belive we don't always need them to remind us of the work that needs to be
> done by us not them and its curious that it takes them to remind us of
> that--I hope we don't just celebrate the "awards" given in the west and are
> we constantly seeking some sense of re-affirmation because we are that
> insecure?
>
> As a work of art perhaps the recognition of talent remains gratifying to
> many but i humbly suggest that our middle class needs to change their mind
> sets and re-examine the fact that we don't need to be proud merely to win
> Oscars but proud that we are doing something about the reality shown.
> Vindication for artistic talents is one part of the struggle
>
> Ramu Dhara
> ED 87
>
> Ramu Dhara
> Media Studiies
> >>> Uday Dandavate <uday@... <uday%40sonicrim.com>> 02/24/09
> 10:28 AM >>>
> First Gandhi and now SlumDog have caught the imagination of the world.
> As I speak with my American friends, I find a great interest,
> curiosity and a renewed sense of deep connection to a reality that is
> not a part of their imagination.
>
> Why is it that these movies made collaboratively succeed in capturing
> popular imagination, whereas some others that we in India sincerely
> hoped and took pride in, never did go beyond nominations. The answer
> is in Co-creation. It is all about making things meaningful to people
> of multiple perspectives and multiple sense making lenses.
>
> We need to recognize that different people see, sense, and interpret
> the same situation in multiple ways. That gets even more complex when
> the people experiencing the same moment come from different cultural
> backgrounds, ideological orientation, or emotional states. However,
> human mind, and human genes respond to some events universally,
> intuitively and deeply. The point is to look for issues that
> transcend difference and bring something out that turns out to be
> meaningful to all- not necessarily in the same way to each member of
> the audience but in different ways. There is no reason to impose the
> same message universally to all the members of the audience. A
> classical creation is one that allows for multiple interpretations
> from multiple audiences, because it respect that there is no one
> reality but that reality is a reconciliation of multiple perspectives.
>
> I have drawn a lot of learning and inspiration from popular media,
> because in response to it I find a true reflection of human mind and
> that excites me. Hopefully, as Sudhir suggested we can continue to
> build something similar for the global community through design.
>
> Take care
>
> Uday
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Sudhir,
you should also watch 'Chakra' (1981) directed by Rabindra Dharamraj
starring Smitha Patil, Naseerudin Shah and Kulbhushan Karbanda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra_(film)

We would be better judges of what the design community in India should be
doing.
My dad couldn't watch Slumdog Millionnaire after the *tutty* scene.


warm regards
Pudi Ravi Krishna
Hyderabad


2009/2/24 designindia@...

>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2.1. My Oscars
>    Posted by: "Sudhir Sharma" sudhirelephant@... sudhirelephant
>    Date: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:43 pm
>
> Hi,
>
> 8 oscars for a movie made in India and a few medals in Olympics in Beijing
> recently have
> a wonderful effect on a nation that i feel has everything but self
> confidence.
>
> I dont know any of these winners, but i feel strangely connected. It is
> amazing how people
> you dont know can inspire you. I guess this is what sports does as well.
> Everytime Dhoni
> and boys win a game of cricket, every face in the street lights up and
> ownership of win is
> so transparent in every heart.
>
> Indian Film Industry works on an amazing business model.   A group of
> entrepreneurs
> come together to produce a movie, everybody is driven by his and her own
> passion for
> excellence and they team up under a director or a producer, deliver a
> product and then
> move on to form another team for another product. This model has self
> corrective balance
> for finance, society and art. Indian films have been improving in content
> and technique
> and they havent lost their mass focus...
>
> They havent cared for oscars in the true sense, but oscars sort of proves
> that they dont
> need to.
>
> Something that design Industry needs to learn from. Obviously the best
> talent needs to
> collaborate to produce solutions that not only work at homeground, but also
> become
> benchmarks world over. perhaps a few wellknown and awarded designers and
> design
> houses should come together to work on one project and test this out.
>
> It is perhaps the best inspiration that we can draw from this oscars and
> the light that is on
> India now.
>
> regards
> Sudhir Sharma
> Designindia
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (2)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2.2. Re: My Oscars
>    Posted by: "Subrata Bhowmick" Sara_bhomik@...
>    Date: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:53 pm
>
>
> Dear Sudhir,
>
>
>
> This is perhaps my first mail in designindia.
>
>
>
> I agree with you Sudhir
>
>
>
> Affly
>
>
>
> s u b r a t a   b h o w m i c k
>
>
>
> To: designindia@...
> From: sudhirelephant@...
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:13:09 +0000
> Subject: **designindia** My Oscars
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> 8 oscars for a movie made in India and a few medals in Olympics in Beijing
> recently have
> a wonderful effect on a nation that i feel has everything but self
> confidence.
>
> I dont know any of these winners, but i feel strangely connected. It is
> amazing how people
> you dont know can inspire you. I guess this is what sports does as well.
> Everytime Dhoni
> and boys win a game of cricket, every face in the street lights up and
> ownership of win is
> so transparent in every heart.
>
> Indian Film Industry works on an amazing business model. A group of
> entrepreneurs
> come together to produce a movie, everybody is driven by his and her own
> passion for
> excellence and they team up under a director or a producer, deliver a
> product and then
> move on to form another team for another product. This model has self
> corrective balance
> for finance, society and art. Indian films have been improving in content
> and technique
> and they havent lost their mass focus...
>
> They havent cared for oscars in the true sense, but oscars sort of proves
> that they dont
> need to.
>
> Something that design Industry needs to learn from. Obviously the best
> talent needs to
> collaborate to produce solutions that not only work at homeground, but also
> become
> benchmarks world over. perhaps a few wellknown and awarded designers and
> design
> houses should come together to work on one project and test this out.
>
> It is perhaps the best inspiration that we can draw from this oscars and
> the light that is on
> India now.
>
> regards
> Sudhir Sharma
> Designindia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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im not too well versed with world economics or its working but my feeling is
this.

in the last century all throughout indian girls were 'ok' in the international
good looks chapter, with recognition once in a while. all that was while our
foreign and trade policies were mostly inclusive. then sometime in the late 80s,
early 90s i think, we opened up to international players to set up in india.
suddenly our girls started becoming more beautiful internationally and started
to win miss universe and miss world and the lot, every year there was one winner
at some level if not three. the sudden change was to get the indian psyche to
start putting more effort into beauty, by making themselves conscious about it
and therefore buy beauty products.

similarily,
movies were being made for a long time in india, bollywood, lollywood and the
lots. millions. never would have anything won, as never was a need to even look
this side of the globe.
now, when the world, america is getting bankrupt, hollywood is getting bankrupt,
both from production finance point of view as well as viewership point of view,
suddenly the focus is to start building production units into and getting india
involved. also many richest people are indians, and many of them ARE interested
in the film making business, and interms of viewership, we may soon cross the 2
billon mark too. so i feel, this is just the start of indian oscar generation as
from now, similar to the missworlds.
i love rahman, and movie slumd...... and they deserve everything and more, but
there were many beautiful movies made earlier too, but they, like most indian
women prior to the 1990s, they hardly stood a chance.

the light is definitely on india, we should welcome the opportunity with open
arms. the west wants to let us know we are good enough, they want to co-produce
and co-deliver co-exist. and the time is right for us. thank god for recession.

Deepak Pathania
Director,
Design Intervention (I) Pvt. Ltd.
NID-1990-95


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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ramu Dhara
   To: designindia@...
   Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:38 PM
   Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars


   Actually i will fill in with my 2 paise here--its take a british director who
did "tTrainspotting" (his earlier work) which as some suggest inspired City of
God (brazil) to take an indian slum narrative with to the Oscars 60 odd years
later and hopefully, wake up some of our slumbering middle class who are mostly
inured to their realities outside their insulated enviroments--some have called
it Slum porn while other's celebrate. I'm not sure if we should be celebrating a
reality that needs to be addressed now!

   The government talks about being proud but I'm not sure what that means to me.
Am i to remain proud that we have many of our children living in squalor in our
slums. A few make it out into the rag to riches story, what of the rest?

   Our colonial relationships with our ex-colonizers are deep and complex and I
belive we don't always need them to remind us of the work that needs to be done
by us not them and its curious that it takes them to remind us of that--I hope
we don't just celebrate the "awards" given in the west and are we constantly
seeking some sense of re-affirmation because we are that insecure?

   As a work of art perhaps the recognition of talent remains gratifying to many
but i humbly suggest that our middle class needs to change their mind sets and
re-examine the fact that we don't need to be proud merely to win Oscars but
proud that we are doing something about the reality shown. Vindication for
artistic talents is one part of the struggle

   Ramu Dhara
   ED 87

   Ramu Dhara
   Media Studiies
   >>> Uday Dandavate <uday@...> 02/24/09 10:28 AM >>>
   First Gandhi and now SlumDog have caught the imagination of the world.
   As I speak with my American friends, I find a great interest,
   curiosity and a renewed sense of deep connection to a reality that is
   not a part of their imagination.

   Why is it that these movies made collaboratively succeed in capturing
   popular imagination, whereas some others that we in India sincerely
   hoped and took pride in, never did go beyond nominations. The answer
   is in Co-creation. It is all about making things meaningful to people
   of multiple perspectives and multiple sense making lenses.

   We need to recognize that different people see, sense, and interpret
   the same situation in multiple ways. That gets even more complex when
   the people experiencing the same moment come from different cultural
   backgrounds, ideological orientation, or emotional states. However,
   human mind, and human genes respond to some events universally,
   intuitively and deeply. The point is to look for issues that
   transcend difference and bring something out that turns out to be
   meaningful to all- not necessarily in the same way to each member of
   the audience but in different ways. There is no reason to impose the
   same message universally to all the members of the audience. A
   classical creation is one that allows for multiple interpretations
   from multiple audiences, because it respect that there is no one
   reality but that reality is a reconciliation of multiple perspectives.

   I have drawn a lot of learning and inspiration from popular media,
   because in response to it I find a true reflection of human mind and
   that excites me. Hopefully, as Sudhir suggested we can continue to
   build something similar for the global community through design.

   Take care

   Uday





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Hey guys

Kyoorius is on its way to putting together a manpower or talent search division.
Kyoorius signed a letter of intent recently with IDIS, a creative manpower
company in Amsterdam, for placement from India into Europe and vice versa.

We have been asked and are currently active in placing a senior brand consultant
from Europe into India. We are getting active in placing passed out students and
young designers as interns in studios overseas, depending on specific discipline
interests and again vice versa too. Students from LCC have evinced interest in
completing internship here.

A division would shortly be opened in Singapore or Malaysia to explore similar
talent placement. We hope to incorporate cross culture talent as much as
possible.

One of the queries that we currently have in India - Saffron Brand Consultants
has opened offices in India and has a team of 8 people. They are searching for
senior designers with strong conceptual and strategic skills to be based in
their Mumbai offices but working for clients across the world. They are also
looking for a junior/middle level designer. The joining will be sometime in May
or June. Interested people can mail to me in complete confidence.

More news to follow on this division as soon as we put it in place. It will be a
while since we need to get the people in place and also the new office at Mumbai
for Kyoorius.

Cheers
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Kyoorius Exchange
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Actually i will fill in with my 2 paise here--its take a british director who
did "tTrainspotting" (his earlier work) which as some suggest inspired City of
God (brazil) to take an indian slum narrative with to the Oscars 60 odd years
later and hopefully, wake up some of our slumbering middle class who are mostly
inured to their realities outside their insulated enviroments--some have called
it Slum porn while other's celebrate.  I'm not sure if we should be celebrating
a reality that needs to be addressed now!

The government talks about being proud but I'm not sure what that means to me. 
Am i to remain proud that we have many of our children living in squalor in our
slums.  A few make it out into the rag to riches story, what of the rest?

Our colonial relationships with our ex-colonizers are deep and complex and I
belive we don't always need them to remind us of the work that needs to be done
by us not them and its curious that it takes them to remind us of that--I hope
we don't just celebrate the "awards" given in the west and are we constantly
seeking some sense of re-affirmation because we are that insecure?

As a work of art perhaps the recognition of talent remains gratifying to many
but i humbly suggest that our middle class needs to change their mind sets and
re-examine the fact that we don't need to be proud merely to win Oscars but
proud that we are doing something about the reality shown.  Vindication for
artistic talents is one part of the struggle

Ramu Dhara
ED 87

Ramu Dhara
Media Studiies
>>> Uday Dandavate <uday@...> 02/24/09 10:28 AM >>>
First Gandhi and now SlumDog have caught the imagination of the world.
As I speak with my American friends, I find a great interest,
curiosity and a renewed sense of deep connection to a reality that is
not a part of their imagination.

Why is it that these movies made collaboratively succeed in capturing
popular imagination, whereas some others that we in India sincerely
hoped and took pride in, never did go beyond nominations. The  answer
is in Co-creation. It is all about making things meaningful to people
of multiple perspectives and multiple sense making lenses.

We need to recognize that different people see, sense, and interpret
the same situation in multiple ways. That gets even more complex when
the people experiencing the same moment come from different cultural
backgrounds, ideological orientation,  or emotional states. However,
human mind, and human genes respond to some events universally,
intuitively and deeply. The  point  is to look for issues that
transcend difference and bring something out that turns out to be
meaningful to all- not necessarily in the same way to each member of
the audience but in different ways. There is no reason to impose the
same message universally to all the members of the audience. A
classical creation is one that allows for multiple interpretations
from multiple audiences, because it respect that there is no one
reality but that reality is a reconciliation of multiple perspectives.

I have drawn a lot  of learning and inspiration from popular media,
because in  response to it I find a true reflection of human mind and
that excites me. Hopefully, as Sudhir suggested we can continue to
build something similar for the global community through design.

Take care

Uday

First Gandhi and now SlumDog have caught the imagination of the world.
As I speak with my American friends, I find a great interest,
curiosity and a renewed sense of deep connection to a reality that is
not a part of their imagination.

Why is it that these movies made collaboratively succeed in capturing
popular imagination, whereas some others that we in India sincerely
hoped and took pride in, never did go beyond nominations. The  answer
is in Co-creation. It is all about making things meaningful to people
of multiple perspectives and multiple sense making lenses.

We need to recognize that different people see, sense, and interpret
the same situation in multiple ways. That gets even more complex when
the people experiencing the same moment come from different cultural
backgrounds, ideological orientation,  or emotional states. However,
human mind, and human genes respond to some events universally,
intuitively and deeply. The  point  is to look for issues that
transcend difference and bring something out that turns out to be
meaningful to all- not necessarily in the same way to each member of
the audience but in different ways. There is no reason to impose the
same message universally to all the members of the audience. A
classical creation is one that allows for multiple interpretations
from multiple audiences, because it respect that there is no one
reality but that reality is a reconciliation of multiple perspectives.

I have drawn a lot  of learning and inspiration from popular media,
because in  response to it I find a true reflection of human mind and
that excites me. Hopefully, as Sudhir suggested we can continue to
build something similar for the global community through design.

Take care

Uday

Maggpie is looking for the below position,
If anyone is interested, get in touch with me or Tarek Utturkar,
Tarek.Utturkar@....



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02/24/2009 05:55 PM
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Dear Amitabh,

as discussed on telephone I have an opening for the position of a design and
development head. The person must have experience and should be able to
handle a staff of around 7 – 8 designers under him/her. The job is related
to the high end kitchen furniture segment. The person should have good
leader qualities and be able to build a team. He/she will report to the
management directly. He/she will interact with the production head, purchase
and suppliers. The company for which this position is open is a very high
profile company and unlike other Indian companies is really very open to new
things. A Design head who wants to create news things would feel at home in
this company. The placement would be in Gurgaon. It would be great if you
have some lead to pass on to me along with the remuneration package
expected.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

Tarek Utturkar
Product Manager

Grass GmbH & Co. KG
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A User Experience & Design User Group has been started to focus on
development of UI/Interactive/Graphic Design professionals across India.

The group activities include:
1. Expose designers to new avenues as well concerns of media and
technology. The group focuses to enhance knowledge and awareness.
2. Showcase your work on your personalized profile and show it to
Designers across the country
3. Career and industry guidance via jobs postings and Influencer's

The first in-person meeting of the group in Mumbai is on 28th Feb 2009
from 3pm to 4.30pm @ Microsoft Corporation (I) Pvt. Ltd, Windsor, 4th
Floor, Off Cst Road, Kalina, Santacruz (East), Mumbai - 400 098.

This meet would involve focus on User Experience Design in India by
senior professionals and discussions around UX as explored by various
designers like yourself (agenda would be soon put up on the group
site: http://uxdesignindia.ning.com)

Please confirm your participation by replying to uxdesign@... or
by RSVP on http://uxdesignindia.ning.com.

Participation in the group is free of cost, both for the in-person
meet and to join the group online.

nice work. love the treatment and editing.
may I know how much was the budget (if you can disclose that) and
which dv camera you used.

cheers
suvo
NID PD 2000

Dear Sudhir,



This is perhaps my first mail in designindia.



I agree with you Sudhir



Affly



s u b r a t a   b h o w m i c k



To: designindia@...
From: sudhirelephant@...
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:13:09 +0000
Subject: **designindia** My Oscars





Hi,

8 oscars for a movie made in India and a few medals in Olympics in Beijing
recently have
a wonderful effect on a nation that i feel has everything but self confidence.

I dont know any of these winners, but i feel strangely connected. It is amazing
how people
you dont know can inspire you. I guess this is what sports does as well.
Everytime Dhoni
and boys win a game of cricket, every face in the street lights up and ownership
of win is
so transparent in every heart.

Indian Film Industry works on an amazing business model. A group of
entrepreneurs
come together to produce a movie, everybody is driven by his and her own passion
for
excellence and they team up under a director or a producer, deliver a product
and then
move on to form another team for another product. This model has self corrective
balance
for finance, society and art. Indian films have been improving in content and
technique
and they havent lost their mass focus...

They havent cared for oscars in the true sense, but oscars sort of proves that
they dont
need to.

Something that design Industry needs to learn from. Obviously the best talent
needs to
collaborate to produce solutions that not only work at homeground, but also
become
benchmarks world over. perhaps a few wellknown and awarded designers and design
houses should come together to work on one project and test this out.

It is perhaps the best inspiration that we can draw from this oscars and the
light that is on
India now.

regards
Sudhir Sharma
Designindia









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