It was discussed in designindia in the context of Nano launch.
This is what I posted in designindia on 13.1.2008:

".....The demand for fuel will surge to unmanageable proportions.
We will have to earn more foreign exchange through export to foot the
increasing oil bill. The export market is already hit, ironically
stung by the increasing value of the Rupee! The impending American
economic recession (our largest trade partner) will see less demand
for our products and export is going to be hit the hardest. There will
also be less FDI available. So we will have less foreign currency
earning and more spending. If the deficit gets bigger we will have no
option but to borrow money from financial institutions so that Nanos
can ply....."

No cheers :(

Sagar
New Delhi

----------------


On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:32 AM, manoj <kumar_manoj_99@...> wrote:

>   hi all,
>
> How come millions of "intelligent" mba's and pgdbm's worldwide with their
> intelligent "tools" and "research" are not able to foresee "recessions" ???
>
>
>


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Arvind, Thanks for telling about this initative.
Seems Interesting and promising one.
Design education and practice  need to find  many paths and diverse
initatives.

Look fwd to sharing more on this
Well wishes
Sudarshan



Prof. Sudarshan K  Khanna

design educator & consultant

Chairman, �Toys for Tomorrow�- vision-action  international forum



Ravi J Matthai Chair for design & education innovations

National Institute of Design (NID)

Ahmedabad 380007. India



+91 79 2662 3692 ext 1089/1081

+91 98240 52897 (m)

www.sudarshankhanna.com

the website has a short film & 3 books related to toy design, education &
culture



On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Arvind [work] <lodaya@...> wrote:

>
> In recent times, I have witnessed a surge of interest and passion amongst
> "young creatives" (i.e. art/ design/ architecture students in this
> instance)
> to engage with and become a part of the social sector. Actually, this trend
>
> cuts across contexts as well as age groups, but for the moment I am
> limiting
> myself to the "creative student" category for convenience.
>
> Many have dabbled in the social sector, mostly by association with NGOs
> (generic term for various kinds of non-governmental social change
> initiatives), and for many of these, the experience has been partially
> frustrating. The causes for this frustration are many, but one common
> thread
> across them is in the cultural and contextual difference between the
> established NGO and the workstyle and lifestyle of the young creative. In
> response, at least a few such young creatives have started their own social
>
> enterprise, on their own terms. I find this not just interesting, but
> instructive and inspirational too.
>
> It is time to take a more systemic look at this phenomenon, and provide the
>
> young creative with a perspective and platform from which to articulate and
>
> conceptualize their own social change initiative, building on but not
> limited by the knowledge and experience of prior-generation social change
> efforts - what we might term "NGO 1.0".
>
> I would like to invite your participation and support for such a platform
> addressing socially-inclined young creatives, in the form of a two-day
> symposium tentatively titled "NGO 2.0". Please share it with your
> colleagues, students and any others (yes, non-creative non-students as
> well!) who you think might benefit from such an experience. I have a
> PDF/JPEG poster and a draft programme that I can share with you on request,
>
> and I have started a Facebook listing on
> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=74657631968 and a Google Group on
> http://groups.google.com/group/ngo2dot0 to enable this to be planned and
> developed as collaboratively as possible.
>
> I urge you to channel all your responses to either of the two spaces linked
>
> above rather than clogging the designIndia email list, so as to harness our
>
> individual and collective effort in a useable way. Of course, you are
> welcome to email me directly as well, and I promise a fully-considered
> response.
>
> Warm regards,
> Arvind Lodaya
> NID PD 1981-88
> www.srishti.ac.in
>
>
>


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In recent times, I have witnessed a surge of interest and passion amongst
"young creatives" (i.e. art/ design/ architecture students in this instance)
to engage with and become a part of the social sector. Actually, this trend
cuts across contexts as well as age groups, but for the moment I am limiting
myself to the "creative student" category for convenience.

Many have dabbled in the social sector, mostly by association with NGOs
(generic term for various kinds of non-governmental social change
initiatives), and for many of these, the experience has been partially
frustrating. The causes for this frustration are many, but one common thread
across them is in the cultural and contextual difference between the
established NGO and the workstyle and lifestyle of the young creative. In
response, at least a few such young creatives have started their own social
enterprise, on their own terms. I find this not just interesting, but
instructive and inspirational too.

It is time to take a more systemic look at this phenomenon, and provide the
young creative with a perspective and platform from which to articulate and
conceptualize their own social change initiative, building on but not
limited by the knowledge and experience of prior-generation social change
efforts - what we might term "NGO 1.0".

I would like to invite your participation and support for such a platform
addressing socially-inclined young creatives, in the form of a two-day
symposium tentatively titled "NGO 2.0". Please share it with your
colleagues, students and any others (yes, non-creative non-students as
well!) who you think might benefit from such an experience. I have a
PDF/JPEG poster and a draft programme that I can share with you on request,
and I have started a Facebook listing on
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=74657631968 and a Google Group on
http://groups.google.com/group/ngo2dot0 to enable this to be planned and
developed as collaboratively as possible.

I urge you to channel all your responses to either of the two spaces linked
above rather than clogging the designIndia email list, so as to harness our
individual and collective effort in a useable way. Of course, you are
welcome to email me directly as well, and I promise a fully-considered
response.

Warm regards,
Arvind Lodaya
NID PD 1981-88
www.srishti.ac.in

because
it all looks simple and predictable only in hindsight
and
being intelligent or talented has nothing to do with astrology.

akila

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:32 AM, manoj <kumar_manoj_99@...> wrote:

>   hi all,
>
> How come millions of "intelligent" mba's and pgdbm's worldwide with their
> intelligent "tools" and "research" are not able to foresee "recessions" ???
>
>
>



--
Akila Seshasayee
www.seshdesign.com


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hi all,

          How come millions of "intelligent" mba's and pgdbm's worldwide with
their intelligent "tools" and "research" are not able to foresee  "recessions" 
???

Dear All,
This mail is to share with you a presentation on the program, "Curating the
Commerce of Crafts" commencing on 23rd March 2009 in New Delhi. Anyone
interested amongst you or your contacts can enroll for the program now or for a
later batch. Details of the program are available in presentation through the
link below:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xt3e9m

Do get in touch for any queries.

Best
Jatin Bhatt NID 1971-77 PD





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http://innovationpeople.typepad.com/innovatorsdigest/2009/02/how-to-create-2.htm\
l

How to Create Innovation Evangelists: Authors Reveal Word-of-Mouth Marketing
Secrets

Ben McConnell & Jackie Huba

The book outlines the framework for developing evangelism marketing strategies
and programs. The ultimate goal is to create communities of influencers who
drive sales or membership for your company or organization.

Book describes "six basic tenets" to create evangelists for innovation and sales
growth and explains how IBM, Southwest Airlines, The Dallas Mavericks, IBM, and
SolutionPeople have successfully built their customer base and created targeted
marketing programs to involve their biggest fans. These programs have produced
legions of unofficial salespeople and a cost-effective and powerful marketing
force.

6 Tenets to Create Customer Evangelists
1. Customer plus-delta: Continuously gather customer feedback.
2. Napsterize knowledge: Share knowledge freely.
3. Build the buzz: Build word-of-mouth networks.
4. Create community: Encourage communities of customers to meet and share.
5. Make bite-size chunks: Devise specialized, smaller offerings to get customers
to bite.
6. Create a cause: Focus on making the world, or your industry, better.

Uma Chandru
IIACD, Bangalore

Dear Sangita,
�
thnks for the interest shown.
�
Rahul's id is : mp4yne@...
�
best regards,
�
kaustav

Kaustav SenGupta
Associate Professor
Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FASHION TECHNOLOGY
NIFT Campus
Chennai- Tamilnadu
India
&
Internal Design Consultant (IDC)
SGSY Project-NIFT- Govt. of India
&
Founder, Modarator & Head
http://ingene.blogspot.com
(The first ever Indian youth trend research blog recognized by Google : a not
for profit initiative "INgene" with more than 300 trendspotters all over India)

--- On Fri, 3/6/09, we design <sangit69@...> wrote:

From: we design <sangit69@...>
Subject: Re: **designindia** Rahul and his amazing illustrations & portraits -
no formal training
To: designindia@...
Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 12:30 AM






Hi Rahul
Are you open to doing freelance work for children books
regards
Sangita
We design
Gurgaon

--- On Fri, 6/3/09, kaustav sen <kaustavsengupta@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: kaustav sen <kaustavsengupta@ yahoo.com>
Subject: **designindia* * Rahul and his amazing illustrations & portraits - no
formal training
To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in
Cc: "shadee not" <moi.shadee@hotmail. fr>
Date: Friday, 6 March, 2009, 10:28 AM

hi,

�

Wanted to introduce Rahul.

He never studied in any art school / college...

it's his passion and I haven't seen anybody doing�rendering / illustrations�
better than him (without a formal training)...

he says " I never gave it a serious thought as a career option until now"...

can somebody guide him to study abroad / get a suitable job ( which merges with
his passion) ?

�

his blog : http://latent- talents.blogspot .com

his orkut page: http://www.orkut. co.in/Main# Profile.aspx? uid=120857083940
53882697

�

even the expert feedback of his work will be grt help...

best regards,

�

Kaustav

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Kaustav SenGupta

Associate Professor

Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories

NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FASHION TECHNOLOGY

NIFT Campus

Chennai- Tamilnadu

India

&

Internal Design Consultant (IDC)

SGSY Project-NIFT- Govt. of India

&

Founder, Modarator & Head

http://ingene. blogspot. com

(The first ever Indian youth trend research blog recognized by Google : a not
for profit initiative "INgene" with more than 300 trendspotters all over India)

�

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*Wanted Alive Flex/Flash Developer.*

We are on the look out again. This time we are looking out for a
Flex-hardened Flex/Flash Developer. We have a pretty sketchy picture of whom
we want but our informers have provided us with the following vital clues
that can help us track the person down:

*Last Seen Wearing : *A confident smile and a go-getter attitude safely
planted between the ears and not high above them.
*Last Seen In : *In and around Bangalore but could be anywhere in India.
Once we capture them, we will try and get them to Bangalore.
*Favorite Disguises : *Uses multiple identities - Interaction Designer,
Interface Developer, RIA Developer.
*Favorite Food : *Loves to eat Flex/Flash for all 4 meals. Frequently visits
http://labs.adobe.com/ for getting their dose of latest Flex recipes.
*Favorite Movie : *Mission Impossible (Our sources say they has a 1 in a
million disease of not being able to read *I* and *m* together)
*Past Record : *No information available but sources say they have spent 2-4
yrs in Flex jails before.
*Reward : *No bars if we find the real one (No fakes allowed)

Please spread the news around and if you know the person with similar
description please email us urgently with a brief description at
ihaveadream@... . We will highly appreciate your help in spreading
the word and helping us capture this elusive person.

Sorry for cross posting but we dont who where the person could be hiding.

Cheers
Pankaj


On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Pankaj Chawla <pankaj013@...> wrote:

> A US based startup is planning to open design and development center in
> Bangalore and looking for a tag team of a backend and a front end software
> developer and a three people team of hardware engineers. The team will also
> have a designer on board and all of you will be working together to create a
> kick-ass piece of product.
>
> The team will be working on high end ambient intelligence computing
> consumer products � distributed motes that gather user behavior, back end
> systems that process that intelligence and stunning displays that
> interactively display information. The position is for exceptional people
> working to introduce real products to the market. Expect turnaround times of
> under 6 months from design to market.
>
> Software Developers:
> ------------------------------
> 1)Web Developer-Backend: As a backend developer you will be required to
> design and develop a highly responsive fault tolerant database solution that
> will take in real time data from thousands of sources, store it and then
> process it for your front end team member to show to users and interact with
> it.
>
> 2)Web Developer-Frontend: As the frontend developer you will be required to
> work closely with the designer to come up with an exceptional information
> dashboard capable of showing real time data and allowing users to drive
> changes from the same.
>
> Hardware Engineers
> -----------------------------
> 1)Hardware Engineer: As a hardware designer you will creating innovative
> designs that push the boundaries of computing and power management. Mixing
> DSP, FPGA and on chip peripheral resources and an understanding of hardware
> vs software processing tradeoffs are called for.
>
> 2)Board Designer:The board designer will be closely working with the
> industrial design teams and the h/w guys to turn out high speed and RF board
> designs that make the product packaging a reality.
>
> 3)Firmware Engineer:The firmware engineer will be working with the h/w
> design team and the front end s/w teams to provide the deep embedded
> intelligence in a robust fault tolerant manner.
>
> Basic requirement is that you have to have exceptional skills and believe
> that you can beat the best in your field. Of course you need to have good
> experience in your chosen field and we expect you to know the ins and outs
> of whatever technology you love to work with. For the software platform we
> have Linux, MySQL, PHP/Python, ActionScript 3.0/Flex/Flash,
> DHTML/CSS/AJAX/Javascript and OpenLaszlo in mind. For the hardware platform
> we have Atmel and Microchip microcontrollers, Freescale and Samsung ARM
> processors, Xilinx FPGAs, Nordic and Atmel radio systems supported by Eagle,
> OrCAD, PADs and Allegro with VHDL/Verilog/C in mind but if you can convince
> us to look at better ways to do what we want to do we are open to change our
> mind :-)
>
> If you want to get a feel of what Suntulit is planning to do please check
> it out at:
>
>
http://venturebeat.com/2008/12/28/suntulit-adds-intelligence-to-the-home-to-bump\
-up-efficiency/
>
> So if we got you interested and you have a thing for things send a mail to
> ihaveadream@...  with your resume and a short blurb on why you
> should be considered. If you don't have all the skills but can tag team with
> someone who can or are willing to pick stuff up, bring it on. We will also
> love to see your friends consider us, so please forward this to anybody you
> think will be interested.
>
> Btw � you *must* like to fun ! We like nerf fights, honor irreverent humor
> and mischief and things that go fast...
>


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Hi Rahul
Are you open to doing freelance work for children books
regards
Sangita
We design
Gurgaon

--- On Fri, 6/3/09, kaustav sen <kaustavsengupta@...> wrote:

From: kaustav sen <kaustavsengupta@...>
Subject: **designindia** Rahul and his amazing illustrations & portraits - no
formal training
To: designindia@...
Cc: "shadee not" <moi.shadee@...>
Date: Friday, 6 March, 2009, 10:28 AM












             hi,

�

Wanted to introduce Rahul.

He never studied in any art school / college...

it's his passion and I haven't seen anybody doing�rendering / illustrations�
better than him (without a formal training)...

he says " I never gave it a serious thought as a career option until now"...

can somebody guide him to study abroad / get a suitable job ( which merges with
his passion) ?



�

his blog : http://latent- talents.blogspot .com

his orkut page: http://www.orkut. co.in/Main# Profile.aspx? uid=120857083940
53882697

�

even the expert feedback of his work will be grt help...



best regards,

�

Kaustav

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Kaustav SenGupta

Associate Professor

Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories

NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FASHION TECHNOLOGY

NIFT Campus

Chennai- Tamilnadu

India

&

Internal Design Consultant (IDC)

SGSY Project-NIFT- Govt. of India

&

Founder, Modarator & Head

http://ingene. blogspot. com

(The first ever Indian youth trend research blog recognized by Google : a not
for profit initiative "INgene" with more than 300 trendspotters all over India)



�



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Hi,

For those of you who are forever connected, "Designindia" is on twitter. Do add
"Designindia" to follow list and Designindia can also follow you. In turn
designindia will update you with happenings in Design and in India.

regards

Sudhir Sharma
Designindia

hi,
�
Wanted to introduce Rahul.
He never studied in any art school / college...
it's his passion and I haven't seen anybody doing�rendering /
illustrations�better than him (without a formal training)...
he says " I never gave it a serious thought as a career option until now"...
can somebody guide him to study abroad / get a suitable job ( which merges with
his passion) ?

�
his blog : http://latent-talents.blogspot.com
his orkut page:
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile.aspx?uid=12085708394053882697
�
even the expert feedback of his work will be grt help...

best regards,
�
Kaustav
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
-------------------------------------------------
Kaustav SenGupta
Associate Professor
Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FASHION TECHNOLOGY
NIFT Campus
Chennai- Tamilnadu
India
&
Internal Design Consultant (IDC)
SGSY Project-NIFT- Govt. of India
&
Founder, Modarator & Head
http://ingene.blogspot.com
(The first ever Indian youth trend research blog recognized by Google : a not
for profit initiative "INgene" with more than 300 trendspotters all over India)






�
















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hi,
�
Wanted to introduce Rahul.
He never studied in any art school / college...
it's his passion and I haven't seen anybody doing�rendering /
illustrations�better than him (without a formal training)...
he says " I never gave it a serious thought as a career option until now"...
can somebody guide him to study abroad / get a suitable job ( which merges with
his passion) ?

�
his blog : http://latent-talents.blogspot.com
his orkut page:
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile.aspx?uid=12085708394053882697
�
even the expert feedback of his work will be grt help...

best regards,
�
Kaustav
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
-------------------------------------------------
Kaustav SenGupta
Associate Professor
Department of Fashion & Lifestyle Accessories
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FASHION TECHNOLOGY
NIFT Campus
Chennai- Tamilnadu
India
&
Internal Design Consultant (IDC)
SGSY Project-NIFT- Govt. of India
&
Founder, Modarator & Head
http://ingene.blogspot.com
(The first ever Indian youth trend research blog recognized by Google : a not
for profit initiative "INgene" with more than 300 trendspotters all over India)





�
















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Dear Juhi,
�
I know one person, who makes all kinds of mockup and working protos as well..
�
He makes wooden pattern and all kinds of model making related work.
�
He is having workshop in Bhandup.
�
You can contact him on his mobile no.
�
Mr. Kanade 9869 285 287
�
�
Regards:
�
Ganesh Khandale
9967 345 264
: :� CPDM ( IISc)�05

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, juhi pandey <juhipandey@...> wrote:


From: juhi pandey <juhipandey@...>
Subject: **designindia** contact for making of wooden blocks
To: "design india" <designindia@...>
Date: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009, 2:45 PM






dear all

i need information of a crafts person or wood carver who can make wooden blocks
for printing for me.
(In and around mumbai is preferable.)

please inform me about the same on my personal email id - juhipandey@yahoo. com

thank you
regards

juhi pandey

NID/TD-99-02 // NIFT/FD-96-99
StudioJuhi, Mumbai

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Aluminium and Glass Facades for Buildings - Name of the firm can be related
with names directly/indirectly

1.  Mask

2.  Skin

3.  Layer

4.  Glalu

5.  Shield



Sanjay



From: designindia@... [mailto:designindia@...]
On Behalf Of molly_dhiman2000
Sent: 05 March 2009 PM 07:23
To: designindia@...
Subject: **designindia** help with a name!



a new name for a firm that designs and creates aluminum and glass facades
for buildings. one suggestion was 'aluminate'...any more?!

pl help.

Molly





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ALUCLAD (al cladding)

ALUCON� (al +silicon (glass))

ALGLAZE (Al+ Glazing)

ALUGLAZE

ALUGLASS

....... i may just go on....

all the best

Subbaiah
MDes IISc 06
AIM Consulting

�



________________________________
From: molly_dhiman2000 <molly@...>
To: designindia@...
Sent: Thursday, 5 March, 2009 7:22:34 PM
Subject: **designindia** help with a name!


a new name for a firm that designs and creates aluminum and glass facades for
buildings. one suggestion was 'aluminate'. ..any more?!

pl help.

Molly





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Hello Everybody
�
Wanted to share this information with everybody on this group.
�
Government Of India has launched a competition, to design a Currency Symbol for
our very own Ruppee. Many of you must be aware of this competition.
Please do participate, in this competition in full strength,�to�encourage our
governement towards the Design Industry(which may lead to the formation of
Ministry Of Design someday), and to show, that there are designers residing in
India too.
�
For more information Please Visit:
http://finmin.nic.in/the_ministry/dept_eco_affairs/currency_coinage/Comp_Design.\
pdf
�
�Or
�
http://finmin.nic.in/
�
and Thankyou everybody in this group for participating in some healthy Design
Discussions.
�
With Regards
Arush Baluja
WLC 04-07 (ADAGD)
Design Organisation


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a new name for a firm that designs and creates aluminum and glass facades for
buildings. one suggestion was 'aluminate'...any more?!

pl help.

Molly

Are you becoming too much of a specialist, then try your hands on something
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Subject: Slumdog Millionaire?
Can any school teach...???
the true desurving fellow without take/retake..talent on footpath..
it can be in only in india.
Gautam..have look at- you tube- true actor/businessman...

Good one
-

 




  

  
  

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   Subject: Slumdog Millionaire?
 
  
  

 Watch both of them. One when he was young and the other when he is a teenager.
  
  

    
 
 
   Here's a real slumdog who should be a millionaire!
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Two of my final-year Product & Interface Design students are looking to
intern this summer (April+May) with a creative office that has a mix of
"mainstream/corporate/commercial" as well as "alternative/craft/social"
projects live. I couldn't think of any such, hence this query. When I was
working independently, I had just such a mix at all times but I couldn't
take on interns - I wonder if that's still the case today, or whether some
stable and larger organisations have emerged where this eclectic mix is
actively brewed, and that have the infrastructure for interns. If you fit
the bill and are open to interns from Srishti, please drop me a line: arvind
(at) srishti (dot) ac (dot) in.

Arvind Lodaya
NID PD 1981-88
www.srishti.ac.in

Thanks for sharing this interesting slice of life, Sagar!

--
Sahil Karkhanis
ex-IDC
designdaku, Noida

Mobile | +91 99990 37532
Skype | sahil.karkhanis
URL | www.designdaku.com

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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sagarmoy Paul <sagarmoypaul@...>wrote:

>   :)
> http://www.simonhoegsberg.com/we_are_all_gonna_die/slider.html
>
> Sagar
> THOUGHTSCAPE
> New Delhi
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

dear all

i need information of a crafts person or wood carver who can make wooden blocks
for printing for me.
(In and around mumbai is preferable.)

please inform me about the same on my personal email id - juhipandey@...

thank you
regards

juhi pandey

NID/TD-99-02 // NIFT/FD-96-99
StudioJuhi, Mumbai




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Vijay,
Thanks for sharing this insight - which came from your understanding of Indian
film industry.Good take.
I thought would share with this group....This is from an article "Oscars provide
platform, bring Hollywood closer to Bollywood" ....Much
as India’s information technology industry, Bollywood may now
aggressively tout cheaper facilities for animation films and
post-production"

"......Studios including Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., Walt Disney
Co., NBC Universal Inc., Viacom Inc. and Warner Brothers Entertainment
Inc. have already put at least $1.5 billion (Rs7,770 crore) in India
for stakes in local TV channels and ventures with Bollywood studios.Their
first efforts, including Disney’s first Hindi animation flick, failed
to set the Indian box office on fire, but analysts say they will be
encouraged by the success of Slumdog, which became the eighth movie ever to win
eight Academy Awards.“The Oscar wins for Slumdog
only bodes well for the Hollywood-Bollywood connection,” said Nelson
Gayton at the UCLA Entertainment and Media Management Institute in Los
Angeles. “The critical and commercial success of the film speaks to
global audiences for films of Indian content, especially if they do so
well in the US to begin with,” he said.Slumdog Millionaire
was based on a novel by Indian author Vikas Swarup and filmed largely
in the slums of Mumbai. It was directed by Briton Danny Boyle and
distributed and marketed by Fox Searchlight, but many of the cast and
crew, including co-director, Loveleen Tandan, are Indian.The movie is seen by
many in the industry as showing a way forward for Hollywood and Bollywood
studios eyeing new markets.“The
Oscars have provided a huge platform to showcase Indian talent. It’s a
foot in the door,” said Vijay Singh, chief executive of Fox Star
Studios in India, which is looking to make Bollywood films with Indian
studios and directors. “We’re going to see more Hollywood studios want
a link into India, tapping more resources here, and we’re also going to
see more Indian directors look to appeal to larger audiences.”Before Boyle,
film makers of Indian origin, including Mira Nair and Deepa Mehta, made films
such as Monsoon Wedding and Earth, respectively, that were set wholly or partly
in India, and produced and marketed by Hollywood studios. India
has touted itself as a low-cost destination for Hollywood film-makers,
much as Canada has done, highlighting its lush locales, hi-tech studios
and cheap labour costs. Yet differential state taxes, an antiquated
licence system and reams of red tape have hamstrung its ambitions.Long
dominated by family-owned production and distribution firms, India’s
film industry has been bogged down by formulaic fare and box office
revenues of less than 10% of Hollywood’s because of low ticket prices. Now,
the entry of large corporations, institutional finance, a move to a
Hollywood-style studio system and multiplexes are all transforming the
industry and drawing more foreign studios.India’s filmed
entertainment sector, estimated at about $2.2 billion, is forecast to
grow by more than 9% every year over the next five years, according to
consultancy KPMG.Initially, Hollywood studios were content
with limited releases of their blockbusters in India, dubbing some
films in regional languages in a market where racy action flicks and
lavish song-and-dance spectacles rule.In recent years,
Hollywood studios looking to cut costs began shipping animation and
post-production work to India, tapping its reputed software services
skills and affordable workforce. With Slumgdog’s Oscar wins, studios may ship
more high-end animation and visual effects work to India, said KPMG’s
Jain.India’s
UTV Motion Pictures Plc. has co-production deals with Disney and Fox
Searchlight, while Indian businessman Anil Ambani’s Reliance
Entertainment has tied up with a handful of production houses including
those of Hollywood stars George Clooney, Brad Pitt and Julia Roberts to
develop and co-finance films.Reliance Entertainment, in
which billionaire investor George Soros owns a small stake, also sealed
a deal last September with Steven Spielberg’s DreamWorks SKG for a new
$1.2 billion Hollywood film company.More deals are in the
offing as Hollywood tries to fill the $18 billion hole left by Wall
Street, according to Gayton. “The impact of the Spielberg deal was the
message that India is here as a major global player in media and
entertainment.”

Prakash Unakal,IDC 91,MSRSAS Blr

"Intentions and Convictions make all the difference. Being mindful and attentive
to your inner state is key to making outward changes that matter and last.
Unconscious intentions become actions that, unchecked, become unhealthy habits
and Convictions are truth you have made yours"


--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote:
From: Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...>
Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars- from Vijay Jodha
To: designindia@...
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 10:38 AM














I didnt see this response from Viay on the group so am posting it here.

Well written Vijay.



sudhir



From: Jodha <jodha@airtelmail. in>

To: designindia@ yahoogroups. co.in; Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@ yahoo.com>

Sent: Friday, 27 February, 2009 9:09:20 PM

Subject: Re: **designindia* * My Oscars



Dear Sudhir:



While I share your take that  India's achievements whether at the Olympics

or Oscars certainly uplift the national mood and provide most of us a sense

of ownership in that triumph, I am not so sure about the film business in

India as being a business model worth emulating.



Slumdog was made for 14 million dollars, that's about 70 crore rupees, a

huge sum for a film but modest by Hollywood standards. This money was put in

by mainstream studios and a richie rich media  person, based on the strength

of the project (great script and director).  Most of the actors in the film

were first timers, none of them were well known. Even Anil Kapoor, big as he

is in India, is unknown abroad, save small pockets where Bollywood is

followed.



India has one of the largest and fastest growing pool of dollar

billionaires, some of whom are also in the media business. Yet, can one

imagine any of them putting up that kind of money for a film, if it doesn't

feature a prominent chips, car or cola salesman? Forget 70 crores, you

cannot raise even 70 lakhs.  Despite the hoopla, the increasing exposure to

best of world's arts including cinema, things are unfortunately not too

different  from 54 years back Satyajit Ray made Pather Panchali  by first

selling his music records and pawning his wife's jewellery.  That film is

perhaps the greatest film ever made in India if the criteria is the awards

it got, the manner in which it influenced film makers in India and abroad

and the museums worldwide that hold its prints and various artefacts, as

well as the fact that in any good film school anywhere in the world, it is

part of a film student's required viewing.



Yet despite that  and the hundreds of awards and honours after that, Ray

struggled for finances throughout his career. With a few exceptions, all his

films were government funded (Indian, West Bengal, NFDC etc.).  Shakha

Proshakha, one of his last films was funded by  French super star  Gerard

Depardieu.  Can we see any of our money bags including actor super stars

ever doing this?  To see one of the greatest film makers ever, being held

back for want of finances, was reason enough. Depardieu hasn't been the only

one. Adoor Gopalakrishnan' s second last film had Japanese backing.  Francis

Coppola and George Lucas funded Kurosawa for about the same reasons. And

there are many others.  A monk from Bhutan  called Khyentse Norbu has won

prominent international acclaim  for his films which he sees as an extension

of his other work as a philosopher and preacher. Modestly budgeted as they

are, Bhutan has no  film industry or dollar millionaires and Norbu's

producers are from far away places like the US and New Zealand. Can we see

any one from here doing that, if not for Bhutan and Nepal, then for Nagaland

or Sikkim? Unlikely. What is however more likely is our moneybags buying

exactly the same private plane  that their counterpart in New Zealand or

Japan own, or our Bollywood stars throwing the same tantrums or flaunting

the same car, watch, handbag or gown as their Hollywood counterpart.



With a few exceptions, our films are driven, not by a shared desire for

excellence, but other non-artistic considerations. The vast majority  of

them are nothing to write home about because they are made by people who are

not good at film making  but are the masters  as far as the art of hustling

the resources needed to make a film. Many of our top Bollywood actors cannot

act  but only know how to dress up and look good no matter what the role or

the film scene. The current number one actress of Bollywood, a model from

Europe, is only now learning to speak Hindi. I don't know if it is true of

India's other cinemas (Tamil, Telugu etc.) but most actors who make a living

working in Hindi films cannot speak proper Hindi.  Our preferred shoot

locations are overseas,  (in the past we have created Kashmir in Poland  and

passed off a European Castle's ballroom as an Indian family's dining room),

the venue of some of our film awards is also overseas and if they can, our

film makers try to have their Indian films premiered not in India but

abroad. Just what kind of striving for excellence or national pride could

they be representing?



Oscars today are less parochial minded and recognise outstanding  film or

music even if it seems a bit foreign such as Slumdog or a Crouching Tiger,

Hidden Dragon. Unlike what most of our media, lay persons and even eminent

film critics say out of sheer ignorance, they also recognise that best

sound, camera, editing etc. are not "technical awards" but also art forms

and are judged by those who know best. Camera guys vote for the best

cinematography, sound for sound, etc. and all vote together for the best

picture. The only technical award is  the award for scientific achievement.

Avid got it for its digital editing system, Kodak has got it a few times for

developing better film stock, this year somebody who's developed computer

animation system for films, got it.  And yes, Oscars also recognise film

personalities that go beyond their field. Jerry Lewis got an award for his

humanitarian work including over two billion dollars he's raised in last 40

years for the disabled. That's more money than  the GDP of many countries in

the world and one guy did it working year after year.



So how does Bollywood or any of our money bags react?  Do they try to

promote India's other or its neighbours' less resourceful film industries?

Do they pursue charity with the same zeal as their professional interests?

Do they bring greater professionalism? Bobby De Niro was making a film in

Italy when he got his first Oscar for Godfather II. He had already signed up

for Taxi Driver. Since weekend was all he got off in Italy, he applied for a

taxi driver license  and drove cabs in New York city over the weekends, to

get a better sense of his upcoming role. Would any of our super stars do

anything like this? Well Bollywood is certainly inspired by Oscars. Not the

art but the showbiz aspects. We do now have at least a dozen film awards on

TV supported by makers of soap, fairness cream, pan masala and other guys. A

best actor award for Shahrukh Khan and a life time achievement award for

Amitabh Bachchan, seems a common feature to all of them.



I don't know much about design but as someone who makes films for a living,

I can sure there must be better places to seek inspiration.



Vijay Jodha



On 24/02/09 3:43 PM, "Sudhr Sharma" <sudhirelephant@ yahoo.com> wrote:



>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> 8 oscars for a movie made in India and a few medals in Olympics in Beijing

> recently have

> a wonderful effect on a nation that i feel has everything but self confidence































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

:)
http://www.simonhoegsberg.com/we_are_all_gonna_die/slider.html


Sagar
THOUGHTSCAPE
New Delhi


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

beautifully written responce vijay

i'd also like to add that unlike most of film industries elsewhere, our film
industry wasn't started by artists but by migrant businessmen, who found it
a heaven to park their black money...and that has developed the popular
taste, format and idea
of cinema. a country with stories painted on clothes, sculpted on stones and
narrated by every granny at night,struggles to
find original scripts and music,because there is hardly much room for
originality left.

traditionally artisans, storytellers,cooks, explorers have always found
patrons which has helped them create a historic body of work, and then there
has been a public art almost as a responce to the promoted art, we still
have studios vs independent movie makers carryover from those ages, but with
most of the broadcast bandwidth eaten up by corporate media....there is very
less space left for independent , original masterpieces.

best
anand(iddc07)



On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...>wrote:

>
> I didnt see this response from Viay on the group so am posting it here.
> Well written Vijay.
>
> sudhir
>
> From: Jodha <jodha@... <jodha%40airtelmail.in>>
> To: designindia@... <designindia%40yahoogroups.co.in>;
> Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@... <sudhirelephant%40yahoo.com>>
> Sent: Friday, 27 February, 2009 9:09:20 PM
> Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars
>
> Dear Sudhir:
>
> While I share your take that India's achievements whether at the Olympics
> or Oscars certainly uplift the national mood and provide most of us a sense
> of ownership in that triumph, I am not so sure about the film business in
> India as being a business model worth emulating.
>
> Slumdog was made for 14 million dollars, that's about 70 crore rupees, a
> huge sum for a film but modest by Hollywood standards. This money was put
> in
> by mainstream studios and a richie rich media person, based on the strength
> of the project (great script and director). Most of the actors in the film
> were first timers, none of them were well known. Even Anil Kapoor, big as
> he
> is in India, is unknown abroad, save small pockets where Bollywood is
> followed.
>
> India has one of the largest and fastest growing pool of dollar
> billionaires, some of whom are also in the media business. Yet, can one
> imagine any of them putting up that kind of money for a film, if it doesn't
> feature a prominent chips, car or cola salesman? Forget 70 crores, you
> cannot raise even 70 lakhs. Despite the hoopla, the increasing exposure to
> best of world's arts including cinema, things are unfortunately not too
> different from 54 years back Satyajit Ray made Pather Panchali by first
> selling his music records and pawning his wife's jewellery. That film is
> perhaps the greatest film ever made in India if the criteria is the awards
> it got, the manner in which it influenced film makers in India and abroad
> and the museums worldwide that hold its prints and various artefacts, as
> well as the fact that in any good film school anywhere in the world, it is
> part of a film student's required viewing.
>
> Yet despite that and the hundreds of awards and honours after that, Ray
> struggled for finances throughout his career. With a few exceptions, all
> his
> films were government funded (Indian, West Bengal, NFDC etc.). Shakha
> Proshakha, one of his last films was funded by French super star Gerard
> Depardieu. Can we see any of our money bags including actor super stars
> ever doing this? To see one of the greatest film makers ever, being held
> back for want of finances, was reason enough. Depardieu hasn't been the
> only
> one. Adoor Gopalakrishnan's second last film had Japanese backing. Francis
> Coppola and George Lucas funded Kurosawa for about the same reasons. And
> there are many others. A monk from Bhutan called Khyentse Norbu has won
> prominent international acclaim for his films which he sees as an extension
> of his other work as a philosopher and preacher. Modestly budgeted as they
> are, Bhutan has no film industry or dollar millionaires and Norbu's
> producers are from far away places like the US and New Zealand. Can we see
> any one from here doing that, if not for Bhutan and Nepal, then for
> Nagaland
> or Sikkim? Unlikely. What is however more likely is our moneybags buying
> exactly the same private plane that their counterpart in New Zealand or
> Japan own, or our Bollywood stars throwing the same tantrums or flaunting
> the same car, watch, handbag or gown as their Hollywood counterpart.
>
> With a few exceptions, our films are driven, not by a shared desire for
> excellence, but other non-artistic considerations. The vast majority of
> them are nothing to write home about because they are made by people who
> are
> not good at film making but are the masters as far as the art of hustling
> the resources needed to make a film. Many of our top Bollywood actors
> cannot
> act but only know how to dress up and look good no matter what the role or
> the film scene. The current number one actress of Bollywood, a model from
> Europe, is only now learning to speak Hindi. I don't know if it is true of
> India's other cinemas (Tamil, Telugu etc.) but most actors who make a
> living
> working in Hindi films cannot speak proper Hindi. Our preferred shoot
> locations are overseas, (in the past we have created Kashmir in Poland and
> passed off a European Castle's ballroom as an Indian family's dining room),
> the venue of some of our film awards is also overseas and if they can, our
> film makers try to have their Indian films premiered not in India but
> abroad. Just what kind of striving for excellence or national pride could
> they be representing?
>
> Oscars today are less parochial minded and recognise outstanding film or
> music even if it seems a bit foreign such as Slumdog or a Crouching Tiger,
> Hidden Dragon. Unlike what most of our media, lay persons and even eminent
> film critics say out of sheer ignorance, they also recognise that best
> sound, camera, editing etc. are not "technical awards" but also art forms
> and are judged by those who know best. Camera guys vote for the best
> cinematography, sound for sound, etc. and all vote together for the best
> picture. The only technical award is the award for scientific achievement.
> Avid got it for its digital editing system, Kodak has got it a few times
> for
> developing better film stock, this year somebody who's developed computer
> animation system for films, got it. And yes, Oscars also recognise film
> personalities that go beyond their field. Jerry Lewis got an award for his
> humanitarian work including over two billion dollars he's raised in last 40
> years for the disabled. That's more money than the GDP of many countries in
> the world and one guy did it working year after year.
>
> So how does Bollywood or any of our money bags react? Do they try to
> promote India's other or its neighbours' less resourceful film industries?
> Do they pursue charity with the same zeal as their professional interests?
> Do they bring greater professionalism? Bobby De Niro was making a film in
> Italy when he got his first Oscar for Godfather II. He had already signed
> up
> for Taxi Driver. Since weekend was all he got off in Italy, he applied for
> a
> taxi driver license and drove cabs in New York city over the weekends, to
> get a better sense of his upcoming role. Would any of our super stars do
> anything like this? Well Bollywood is certainly inspired by Oscars. Not the
> art but the showbiz aspects. We do now have at least a dozen film awards on
> TV supported by makers of soap, fairness cream, pan masala and other guys.
> A
> best actor award for Shahrukh Khan and a life time achievement award for
> Amitabh Bachchan, seems a common feature to all of them.
>
> I don't know much about design but as someone who makes films for a living,
> I can sure there must be better places to seek inspiration.
>
> Vijay Jodha
>
> On 24/02/09 3:43 PM, "Sudhr Sharma"
<sudhirelephant@...<sudhirelephant%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > 8 oscars for a movie made in India and a few medals in Olympics in
> Beijing
> > recently have
> > a wonderful effect on a nation that i feel has everything but self
> confidence
>
>
>



--
anand jha
industrial designer
general motors technical centre india
itpb bangalore
www.withanand.blogspot.com:9886038116


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I didnt see this response from Viay on the group so am posting it here.
Well written Vijay.

sudhir

From: Jodha <jodha@...>
To: designindia@...; Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...>
Sent: Friday, 27 February, 2009 9:09:20 PM
Subject: Re: **designindia** My Oscars

Dear Sudhir:

While I share your take that  India's achievements whether at the Olympics
or Oscars certainly uplift the national mood and provide most of us a sense
of ownership in that triumph, I am not so sure about the film business in
India as being a business model worth emulating.

Slumdog was made for 14 million dollars, that's about 70 crore rupees, a
huge sum for a film but modest by Hollywood standards. This money was put in
by mainstream studios and a richie rich media  person, based on the strength
of the project (great script and director).  Most of the actors in the film
were first timers, none of them were well known. Even Anil Kapoor, big as he
is in India, is unknown abroad, save small pockets where Bollywood is
followed.

India has one of the largest and fastest growing pool of dollar
billionaires, some of whom are also in the media business. Yet, can one
imagine any of them putting up that kind of money for a film, if it doesn't
feature a prominent chips, car or cola salesman? Forget 70 crores, you
cannot raise even 70 lakhs.  Despite the hoopla, the increasing exposure to
best of world's arts including cinema, things are unfortunately not too
different  from 54 years back Satyajit Ray made Pather Panchali  by first
selling his music records and pawning his wife's jewellery.  That film is
perhaps the greatest film ever made in India if the criteria is the awards
it got, the manner in which it influenced film makers in India and abroad
and the museums worldwide that hold its prints and various artefacts, as
well as the fact that in any good film school anywhere in the world, it is
part of a film student's required viewing.

Yet despite that  and the hundreds of awards and honours after that, Ray
struggled for finances throughout his career. With a few exceptions, all his
films were government funded (Indian, West Bengal, NFDC etc.).  Shakha
Proshakha, one of his last films was funded by  French super star  Gerard
Depardieu.  Can we see any of our money bags including actor super stars
ever doing this?  To see one of the greatest film makers ever, being held
back for want of finances, was reason enough. Depardieu hasn't been the only
one. Adoor Gopalakrishnan's second last film had Japanese backing.  Francis
Coppola and George Lucas funded Kurosawa for about the same reasons. And
there are many others.  A monk from Bhutan  called Khyentse Norbu has won
prominent international acclaim  for his films which he sees as an extension
of his other work as a philosopher and preacher. Modestly budgeted as they
are, Bhutan has no  film industry or dollar millionaires and Norbu's
producers are from far away places like the US and New Zealand. Can we see
any one from here doing that, if not for Bhutan and Nepal, then for Nagaland
or Sikkim? Unlikely. What is however more likely is our moneybags buying
exactly the same private plane  that their counterpart in New Zealand or
Japan own, or our Bollywood stars throwing the same tantrums or flaunting
the same car, watch, handbag or gown as their Hollywood counterpart.

With a few exceptions, our films are driven, not by a shared desire for
excellence, but other non-artistic considerations. The vast majority  of
them are nothing to write home about because they are made by people who are
not good at film making  but are the masters  as far as the art of hustling
the resources needed to make a film. Many of our top Bollywood actors cannot
act  but only know how to dress up and look good no matter what the role or
the film scene. The current number one actress of Bollywood, a model from
Europe, is only now learning to speak Hindi. I don't know if it is true of
India's other cinemas (Tamil, Telugu etc.) but most actors who make a living
working in Hindi films cannot speak proper Hindi.  Our preferred shoot
locations are overseas,  (in the past we have created Kashmir in Poland  and
passed off a European Castle's ballroom as an Indian family's dining room),
the venue of some of our film awards is also overseas and if they can, our
film makers try to have their Indian films premiered not in India but
abroad. Just what kind of striving for excellence or national pride could
they be representing?

Oscars today are less parochial minded and recognise outstanding  film or
music even if it seems a bit foreign such as Slumdog or a Crouching Tiger,
Hidden Dragon. Unlike what most of our media, lay persons and even eminent
film critics say out of sheer ignorance, they also recognise that best
sound, camera, editing etc. are not "technical awards" but also art forms
and are judged by those who know best. Camera guys vote for the best
cinematography, sound for sound, etc. and all vote together for the best
picture. The only technical award is  the award for scientific achievement.
Avid got it for its digital editing system, Kodak has got it a few times for
developing better film stock, this year somebody who's developed computer
animation system for films, got it.  And yes, Oscars also recognise film
personalities that go beyond their field. Jerry Lewis got an award for his
humanitarian work including over two billion dollars he's raised in last 40
years for the disabled. That's more money than  the GDP of many countries in
the world and one guy did it working year after year.

So how does Bollywood or any of our money bags react?  Do they try to
promote India's other or its neighbours' less resourceful film industries?
Do they pursue charity with the same zeal as their professional interests?
Do they bring greater professionalism? Bobby De Niro was making a film in
Italy when he got his first Oscar for Godfather II. He had already signed up
for Taxi Driver. Since weekend was all he got off in Italy, he applied for a
taxi driver license  and drove cabs in New York city over the weekends, to
get a better sense of his upcoming role. Would any of our super stars do
anything like this? Well Bollywood is certainly inspired by Oscars. Not the
art but the showbiz aspects. We do now have at least a dozen film awards on
TV supported by makers of soap, fairness cream, pan masala and other guys. A
best actor award for Shahrukh Khan and a life time achievement award for
Amitabh Bachchan, seems a common feature to all of them.

I don't know much about design but as someone who makes films for a living,
I can sure there must be better places to seek inspiration.

Vijay Jodha

On 24/02/09 3:43 PM, "Sudhr Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> 8 oscars for a movie made in India and a few medals in Olympics in Beijing
> recently have
> a wonderful effect on a nation that i feel has everything but self confidence

> This is to thank all the members on this group who voted for Daily
> Dump in the second round of the TATA NEN Hottest startups.
While we did not make it to the final top 5 we did get a lot of
support for our non-conventional business model.

So thankyou all who did vote

Best
Poonam

>

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Dear Kedar,Highlighting the point" devoid of cultural markers", is a serious
oversight, if anyone has really LISTENED to Rahman over the last 19
years. Sadanand Menon should really be a master of music or sound himself to
make such a comment.

Amitabh Bendre
FD1998,
EVOK,
Gurgaon

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, kedar prabhavalkar <kedarprab@...>wrote:

> amidst the euphoria surrounding the oscar wins,
> i came across this article comparing Rehman and his guru Ilaiyaraaja :
>
>
> http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20090309&fname=Cover+Story&sid=6
> what struck me (rather unpleasantly - being a Rahman fan myself) was this
> concluding bit :
>
> A serious examination of his music will reveal
> the carryover of the seductive values of his lineage in advertising.
> It is devoid of cultural markers, unlike in Ilaiyaraaja�s work.
> This, now, becomes his strength as it finds ready resonance
> in the globalised entertainment industry,
> which is constantly on the hunt for �sounds without shadows�.
>
> does that mean that as a generation, as we are becoming more and more
> 'global'
> we are becoming more and more 'superficial' towards our roots ?
> (i use the word 'superficial' for lack of a better word,
> though it makes it sound more negative than i intend it to be)
>
> kedar prabhavalkar
> JJ, arch
> 1996
> studio inspira
> mumbai
>
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amidst the euphoria surrounding the oscar wins,
i came across this article comparing Rehman and his guru Ilaiyaraaja :

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20090309&fname=Cover+Story&sid=6
what struck me (rather unpleasantly - being a Rahman fan myself) was this
concluding bit :

A serious examination of his music will reveal
the carryover of the seductive values of his lineage in advertising.
It is devoid of cultural markers, unlike in Ilaiyaraaja�s work.
This, now, becomes his strength as it finds ready resonance
in the globalised entertainment industry,
which is constantly on the hunt for �sounds without shadows�.

does that mean that as a generation, as we are becoming more and more
'global'
we are becoming more and more 'superficial' towards our roots ?
(i use the word 'superficial' for lack of a better word,
though it makes it sound more negative than i intend it to be)

kedar prabhavalkar
JJ, arch
1996
studio inspira
mumbai


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