• Best Automobile Design, 2003
• Best Consumer Durable Design 2003
• Best FMCG Packaging Design 2003
• Best Indian Lifestyle Product Design 2003 
• Best Indian Designer 2003
• Best Indian COncept Design, 2003

wish you all a very healthy,
                     productive and prospreous
ha. ppy. hap. py....
               n. e. w.  y. ear  2. 0. 0. 3
s m shah & family
 

Happy New year 2k3

Hi guys,

I'm Rebecca Reubens from the batch of '98, ID furniture design.  Just convocated in 2002.

Am currently working with INBAR, i.e. International Network for Bamboo and Rattan. Right now am working with different craft groups towards making bamboo and rattan a sustainable and viable livelihood option.

Best regards,

Rebecca.

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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 lolita bhaduri wrote :
>hi
>i'm lolita bhaduri. joined NID in 1998, specialised in animation
>film
>design. currenttly working with Tata Interactive System
>(mumbai)
>thanks
>lolita
>
>
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> >From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
> >Reply-To: nidesign@...
> >To: nidesign@...
> >Subject: [nidesign] from shekhar
> >Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:13:05 -0000
> >
> >hellow guys,
> >
> >I'm Badve Chandrashekhar (Shekhar) form the batch of 1998, ID
>product
> >design recently garduated (2002).
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> >I have started a company with one of batchmate from FD. It
>called
> >LOkUS design.
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> >We are situated in Pune. doing ID and FD work mostly.
> >
> >Thanx sudhir for mailing me.
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 Yu ve got it right.

That is the point i was looking for. The client interface...

I recently saw some of the other renderings( IAUTOCAR magazine) for Indica front and.. they were much better looking..

I guess we chose the one which fitted our economy and Taste of the100crore janta.

Another addition  is the Rewa.. Looks cool.. I just saw one on the road.

I guess it should also compete for the design awards..( bonus points for being non polluting and ecofriendly)

Cheers

Hemant

 Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote:

better get used to it, at the price 4.5 lacs..and Telco having
improved the quality...we are going to see them all over. I dont have
answer to yr question. But the designers are not to blame for
sure..since they do produce such nice looking things
otherwise.....its the brief which Indians gave and concepts they
selected....so a lot depends on the client interface and his brief
(haha...meant it).

I have been invited on the Jury to Judge the Overdrive awards..( this
time they are ICICI overdrive awards) and have started wondering
about a lot of conflicting issues. Maybe once we are done with awards
i will share how people (other than designers) look at things.

very complex issue and in our context even more complex with so many
cultures and aesthetic sensibilities. My first reaction to Indigo
was..oh wow...right time for Tata to move up the value chain...since
they just turned around with quality and inventory...(truck making
company making car mentality). i didnt find looks very bad. tough it
does look like a box added to Indica...so front we are used to
already. the back is very much like Siena...again we are are used to
that. Now what i find very exciting is the price. At this
price..Indigo can revolutionise the automotive component
sector..which was in a slump. In many economies a successfull (and
selling Car) defines a healthy economy..

Brings me to another issue..have u voted in the new POLLs. Anyway
must Vote in all the polls posted.If you do not vote- we could
analyse the solutions and problems in a very wrong way....how is
economy doing for designers...must answer that.

Vasu...did u see yr picture posted..with the eliminator bike...u
could be the next AP movies superstar...

regards
sudhir

--- In nidesign@y..., Hemant Suthar <hsuthar@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Sudhir,
> Did you see the new Indigo...
> Any reactions?
> I feel why can't we get better designs ? even if we go to IDEA and
get our cars designed... why do we get such ugly looking cars...They
sma guys produce much better stuff for other countries?






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better get used to it, at the price 4.5 lacs..and Telco having
improved the quality...we are going to see them all over. I dont have
answer to yr question. But the designers are not to blame for
sure..since they do produce such nice looking things
otherwise.....its the brief which Indians gave and concepts they
selected....so a lot depends on the client interface and his brief
(haha...meant it).

I have been invited on the Jury to Judge the Overdrive awards..( this
time they are ICICI overdrive awards) and have started wondering
about a lot of conflicting issues. Maybe once we are done with awards
i will share how people (other than designers) look at things.

very complex issue and in our context even more complex with so many
cultures and aesthetic sensibilities. My first reaction to Indigo
was..oh wow...right time for Tata to move up the value chain...since
they just turned around with quality and inventory...(truck making
company making car mentality). i didnt find looks very bad. tough it
does look like a box added to Indica...so front we are used to
already. the back is very much like Siena...again we are are used to
that. Now what i find very exciting is the price. At this
price..Indigo can revolutionise the automotive component
sector..which was in a slump. In many economies a successfull (and
selling Car) defines a healthy economy..

Brings me to another issue..have u voted in the new POLLs. Anyway
must Vote in all the polls posted.If you do not vote- we could
analyse the solutions and problems in a very wrong way....how is
economy doing for designers...must answer that.

Vasu...did u see yr picture posted..with the eliminator bike...u
could be the next AP movies superstar...

regards
sudhir

--- In nidesign@y..., Hemant Suthar <hsuthar@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Sudhir,
> Did you see the new Indigo...
> Any reactions?
> I feel why can't we get better designs ? even if we go to IDEA and
get our cars designed... why do we get such ugly looking cars...They
sma guys produce much better stuff for other countries?

Ok group,

I think we have disscussed enough on Gataum's posts relating to Mr.
Modi. We have had views from both sides. So lets move on.

Mr. Patel has also clarified that letter to CM was a draft letter.
lets leave NID alumni Ahmedabad chapter to deal with that.

Please do not respond/ post any message related to that issue (on
either side).

regards
sudhir
moderator

Dear Everyone!,

I think many many of had enough of this Gujarat Issue and Mr. Modi factor.

Do we really have NIDAA? (I am not aware of active ! My apologies) if the answer is yes! It is only Alumni Association nothing else!

Do we designers Have any Professional body to govern our so called glorified profession? Sunil Patel time we used to hear about it... Most of it's activity restricted to NID Auditorium... and some Intellectual masturbation! If we are really bothered about our profession and its conducts Let's focus at building a professional body on a stronger foundation. Are  you guys intended to do something in this area. The first round "Professional designers" are retiring from profession, and we do not have a body or platform where we can voice from, it is shame on US. NIDAA is that platform.

Goutham and Amit I am with you both. As designers we should not look at the Ruling Government as a political party. We have to work with them no matter who ever is the CM. And in India every political party and politician is the same with handful exception...

The Issue is only 'the need for professional body'  Lets put efforts to build one which will out grow off NID Domes.. Lets use Our best energies to Build this real Professional body and have Registration to practice design more ethical way... If you all think design is age old one then do not waste your time and others in exchanging views well written only letters!

NIDAA is only association which brings our NIDians together under one roof as a family there we talk about food, drinks, family ethics and value to remember and pass on to our new members. Strictly no professional Issues!

 You talk about Business opportunities and share of information fine... want to do business with each others (it is been  talked too many times but nothing happen! Hi, Sudheer! anything happen?) fine we must use this E groups no harm at all...

Hey hey!! I am lost... Sudheer, Lets put a full stop all these work on Professional body of Indian designers! to influence Government and Corporates... and Politicians!!!

Good luck to all of  Indian Designers.

Srinivasarao Pattur

(VASU)

 

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Hi,

greetings for the new year to all.
On one level i am happy that this egroup has crossed 150 memberships
now and is growing (slowly but steadily). Thank you for joining and
for asking others to join. On the other-150 members out of so many
designers in the field....is not a critical mass...so more work cut
out to get more people of our community to join in.

I realise that not many of us are vocal..but do read each and every
mail which is posted  here. I thank you all who have been mailing or
calling me....the feedback is crucial...i wouldnt know if its any use
otherwise.

Now a very crucial addmittance: i started this egroup on an impulse,
i wasnt sure of what the use or objectives would be. Nor was i sure
if more people would subscribe to those ideas. So what i am putting
formally here is my own felt need first...and an assumption that this
feeling is generic.

This egroup is to involve professional designers by being able to air
and share views. The disscussions are monitored (no more moderated)
which is to say that we should not post irrelevant, libelloues or
otherwise harmful material. Though these are absorbed, feedback
positive or otherwise.Lets not stand messages that are antipathic to
sensibility of this egroup. Since it is an open forum feel free to
network, establish contacts, organise social gatherings, drinks,
dinner. The group is a powerful networking tool.

The group should generate and refine debates, intelligent and
insightful commentary on issues affecting design today- Business,
creative, technological, philosophical, ethical is what its all about.

This egroup is not a part of NID or any of the Alumni chapters. Nor
is it a legal entity which represents any formally formed group. It
is my belief that people should get together here and then form
special interest groups...So this forum can at best be a launch
pad....but would dissassociate with any such formation. example:- the
Design Business Forum may have germinated on this forum but would be
yet another group.

egroup has a very simple mission of providing a forum -getting to
know each other. thats today.....lets see what it becomes in future.

wishing you all and your families a very happy, prosperous new year.

regards
sudhir
GD 1983-89
now at Elephant Design

Dear Everyone!,

I think many many of had enough of this Gujarat Issue and Mr. Modi factor.

Do we really have NIDAA? (I am not aware of active ! My apologies) if the answer is yes! It is only Alumni Association nothing else!

Do we designers Have any Professional body to govern our so called glorified profession? Sunil Patel time we used to hear about it... Most of it's activity restricted to NID Auditorium... and some Intellectual masturbation! If we are really bothered about our profession and its conducts Let's focus at building a professional body on a stronger foundation. Are  you guys intended to do something in this area. The first round "Professional designers" are retiring from profession, and we do not have a body or platform where we can voice from, it is shame on US. NIDAA is that platform.

Goutham and Amit I am with you both. As designers we should not look at the Ruling Government as a political party. We have to work with them no matter who ever is the CM. And in India every political party and politician is the same with handful exception...

The Issue is only 'the need for professional body'  Lets put efforts to build one which will out grow off NID Domes.. Lets use Our best energies to Build this real Professional body and have Registration to practice design more ethical way... If you all think design is age old one then do not waste your time and others in exchanging views well written only letters!

NIDAA is only association which brings our NIDians together under one roof as a family there we talk about food, drinks, family ethics and value to remember and pass on to our new members. Strictly no professional Issues!

 You talk about Business opportunities and share of information fine... want to do business with each others (it is been  talked too many times but nothing happen! Hi, Sudheer! anything happen?) fine we must use this E groups no harm at all...

Hey hey!! I am lost... Sudheer, Lets put a full stop all these work on Professional body of Indian designers! to influence Government and Corporates... and Politicians!!!

Good luck to all of  Indian Designers.

Srinivasarao Pttur

(VASU)

this is frm one such confused desi and a dear friend of mine. see if u guys
like it.

happy new year to all of u.

a

----- Original Message -----
From: <rdhara@...>
To: <anando@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 5:54 PM
Subject: NYTimes.com Article: A Brahmin Filmmaker's Battle to Tell India's
Story in India


> This article from NYTimes.com
> has been sent to you by rdhara@....
>
>
>
> A Brahmin Filmmaker's Battle to Tell India's Story in India
>
> December 24, 2002
> By AMY WALDMAN
>
>
>
>
>
>
> BOMBAY - When India's censor board came back with 21 cuts
> it wanted made before his new documentary, "War and Peace,"
> could be shown, Anand Patwardhan girded himself for what
> has become a familiar battle.
>
> Mr. Patwardhan has been making documentaries that challenge
> India's establishment for 30 years, becoming one of the
> country's most respected documentarians. For almost as long
> he has been battling the state in one form or another for
> the right to show his films uncensored.
>
> "War and Peace" is a nearly three-hour work that ranges
> from India to Pakistan, Japan and the United States to take
> a critical look at the phenomenon of "nuclear nationalism."
> It opens with the killing of Mohandas K. Gandhi, then
> examines the triumphalist reaction within India to the
> testing of a nuclear bomb in May 1998.
>
> Not surprisingly, the film's antiwar, antinuclear message
> did not find favor with censors answerable to a government
> led by the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, for
> which the nuclear test was an important achievement.
>
> Among the scenes that the Central Board of Film
> Certification ordered Mr. Patwardhan to cut was the killing
> of Gandhi by Nathuram Godse, a Hindu nationalist. He was
> ordered to cut scenes, shot after the nuclear test, of
> Hindus celebrating by cutting their hands with blades and
> signing congratulations in blood. Delete, he was told,
> critical comments about the Bharatiya Janata Party and
> scenes with the country's leaders.
>
> The demanded cuts almost all touched on politically
> sensitive spots, which is exactly why he would not cut
> them, Mr. Patwardhan said in an interview. For six months
> he has been battling the censor board through its appellate
> tribunal, which is asking for significantly fewer cuts. He
> said he would fight it out in court if the tribunal
> insisted on cuts.
>
> In India the film was shown at the Mumbai International
> Film Festival where it won the best film/video award but
> has since been screened only privately, mostly in the
> living rooms of the elite.
>
> The New York Film/Video Council in conjunction with the
> Museum of Modern Art in New York recently showed "War and
> Peace" at the Gramercy Theater, and the director discussed
> the film there the next day.
>
> Mr. Patwardhan, 52, was born and educated in Bombay, where
> he still lives. His mother is a potter; his father, a
> retired publisher. His political philosophy was shaped
> partly by his upbringing in a family of Gandhians and
> freedom fighters.
>
> He is a Brahmin, which he said imbued him with a sense of
> social obligation. That sense only became stronger after he
> returned from the United States, where he studied at
> Brandeis University in the early 1970's and joined the
> antiwar movement. "I went to jail with my professor and got
> an A in the course," he said. He worked with Cesar Chavez
> and the United Farm Workers and became an unrepentant
> liberal.
>
> In India his first documentary was about the student
> movement in the state of Bihar, which led to Indira
> Gandhi's imposing a national state of emergency. The film,
> like the movement, was driven underground. Unable to show
> it in India, he showed it in Canada, where he went to get a
> master's degree at McGill University.
>
> It was the first but not the last time that Mr. Patwardhan
> would have an easier time showing his films outside his
> country than inside. One film, on the slum dwellers of
> Bombay, was shown for the first time on national television
> in India five years after it was made, and only after Mr.
> Patwardhan won successive court battles.
>
> "You have to be a filmmaker, and then you have to be a
> lawyer as well," he said. But some friends say he may have
> become too caught up in battling the censors, at the cost
> of getting his films a timely airing.
>
> Starting in the late 1980's Mr. Patwardhan trained his lens
> on the country's growing Hindu nationalist movement. His
> film "In the Name of God" examined the drive by Hindu
> nationalists to demolish a 16th-century mosque in Ayodhya
> on a site that many Hindus believe is the birthplace of
> Lord Ram. The film was finished in 1991. The next year a
> mob demolished the mosque brick by brick.
>
> Mr. Patwardhan's 1995 film "Father, Son and Holy War" also
> examined religious fundamentalism, looking at how it
> oppresses both Hindu and Muslim women. He compared
> fundamentalist speeches with men selling aphrodisiacs on
> the street. Both, he said, create insecurity that "you're
> not a real man" and then offer a tonic.
>
> For a man who was heavily influenced by his time in
> America, Mr. Patwardhan is no fan of America's influence on
> India, particularly what he sees as the "might is right"
> ethos. He calls "nuclear machismo" the driving force for
> the bomb everywhere. India, he argues, is no different. The
> politicians in his film do not talk about the bomb as
> deterring a threat to India but about the country's
> newfound prestige. "They're saying openly, `Now we're on
> the map,' " he said.
>
> He has also made films best categorized as
> "antiglobalization" on fishermen losing their livelihoods
> to big foreign ships, for example.
>
> In the 1990's India started liberalizing its economy, in
> fits and starts. Mr. Patwardhan criticizes the current
> government for moving away from Nehru's closed socialist
> economy although most economists agree that is exactly what
> India needs to do.
>
> "They keep nationalism alive at the rhetorical level while
> surrendering sovereignty in real terms," he said of the
> government. On this point Mr. Patwardhan is in line with
> the Hindu right, whose attacks on privatization of
> state-owned companies and liberalization at large have
> slowed the process.
>
> But on most other issues he is an emblem of a growing gap
> between India's secular, liberal elite and Hindu
> nationalists who say it is they who reflect popular
> sentiments. The recent landslide victory of the Bharatiya
> Janata Party in Gujarat, which was the site of deadly
> Hindu-Muslim riots this spring, would appear to support
> that contention. The party campaigned on themes of Hindu
> pride and Hindu vulnerability to Islamic terrorism and
> Muslim hegemony.
>
> Mr. Patwardhan's message sits no better with many Indians
> overseas than it does with his government. Last February a
> planned screening of two of his films at the American
> Museum of Natural History was moved to New York University
> because, museum officials said, the large space needed for
> the screening was being renovated.
>
> "Indians in America want a perfect image of India," Mr.
> Patwardhan said. "They don't want the dark side."
>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/24/movies/24ARTS.html?ex=1041781241&ei=1&en=4
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>

With all these emails flying back and forth, there was something in the back
of my mind that I finally tracked down on Google. In the context, I felt it
was appropriate to share.

First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Let us, as designers, and sensitive, thinking human beings, continue to
speak up and put our talents to the best use. Let us make the right choices.

Who knows, perhaps one day they will come for the designers and there will
be no one left to speak out for us.

Best wishes to all of you for peace and prosperity in the New Year.

Regards
Deepa



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Dear Gautam,

With reference to your last letter on the egroup, no one would deny that
design professionals must be considered a part of development work - there
is no argument in this - it is a no brainer. But the fact remains that any
involvement must be done on an individual basis and the alumni group can
only be involved after a due process of ratification and acceptance.This you
should do through the standard process.

This Buddhi Sagar Group or whatever it is called may or may not be what you
think it is, but only after due consideration of the merits and demerits as
the case may be and only after due approval of the majority can the
association give sanction to join or take part in such a venture. As an
individual you have the liberty to decide for yourself and only for
yourself.

"Kuchh Karna Mangta hai" is not enough for a professional body to take
action prima facie without background information and details.

Thinking designers would and are concerned about various issues and many
have been doing some great work in their own way. Yes, a collective effort
may bring much better results but this needs to be a consciously well
thought out apolitical strategy and not linked with a person or body of
persons who may be just the flavour of the day or the moment.

A number of committees and councils have mushroomed every now and then with
an intention of doing good work but unfortunately very few have really lived
up to what they stated that they would achieve and most have eventually
shown their true colours and have been found to have rather narrow self
interests with a total disregard for the masses at large.

In brief, one must check out the true bonafides of any such group or
activity before committing oneself ( or a group) else you may just find that
you were taken for a nice ride !

My suggestion is that you should ideally start your own group which can have
its own set of ideals, plans and actions and not try and involve NIDAA which
( due to its inherent charter and constitution) cannot be of any help
directly or even indirectly.

With regards,

Amit.

hey guys,

was out of town and when we get back we find passionate outpourings, which
needless to say has made me feel very proud of the people who i have shared
very fond memories with. i had already written to gautam abt what i felt of
the scumbag alias modi. so let me change the subject a bit.

i had submitted a short piece to a leading newspaper about the ICSID. for
those of us who missed it i attach it here.

may our vision bring us hope. for the new year ahead. and hopefully give us
the courage to say ever so meekly that we are not as ashamed to be hindus
after all.

with regards

a

----- Original Message -----
From: amitmed <amitmed@...>
To: <nidesign@...>
Cc: Suchitra <suchi_264@...>; setumail
<setumail@...>; gautam patel <gp1412@...>; Dinesh Korjan
<dinesh@...>; Balaram Singanapalli <s_balaram43@...>; Arvind
Lodaya <emailarvind@...>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: [nidesign] Fw: URGENT !


>
> Subject: URGENT !
>
>
> > To all members of the NID Alumni Association,
> >
> > I am shocked and deeply grieved that a member of the committee has
written
> > such a letter (to the CM of Gujarat) without any discussion or
permission.
> > My personal apologies to every member that such an act has happened. The
> > NIDAA ( as per the Constitution ) has no political affiliations ,
liaisons
> > or interests and will always remain so. I as Secretary of NIDAA (with
> > whatever powers that have been vested in me) request all members
including
> > the committee members to please desist from making any such
> > promises/statements either verbally or in writing without getting the
> prior
> > approval of the board and the mmebers (assuming that it is correct and
> > allowable as per the constitution of NIDAA).
> >
> > At a personal level, members may on their own initiative - on their
> personal
> > letterhead may do whatever they feel - it is a democracy and they have
the
> > right just as much as I have the right to think and feel that the
current
> CM
> > and his party are a bunch of fascists and should be hung from the
nearest
> > tree by their short hairs (so what if they got more seats in the
elections
> > by hook or by crook!) or that he is a saviour on earth to save our
souls.
> > But to assume that a body of professionals (of which he (Gautam)  is an
> > elected representative ) is of the same opinion is rather naive and
> > extremely presumptuous and preposterous !
> >
> > I feel Mr. Gautam Patel must apologize for his uncalled and unofficial
> > letter and must send a rejoinder to the CM that he had erred and that no
> > official statement has been made to the effect as conveyed in the first
> > letter.
> >
> > Gautam, as a fellow alumni and committee member - please do not let your
> > personal feelings get translated into official work without first
getting
> it
> > approved and agreed upon by all concerned. It is not fair, correct,
legal
> or
> > even authentic.
> >
> > A request to all members to please not to use the NIDAA as a spring
board
> > for personal initiatives/endeavours and neither to use this great
website
> > (and I am sure Sudhir will agree with me) for similar purposes.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Amit Sheth
> > Secretary NIDAA
> > (AEP-PD, 1988).
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <nidesign@...>
> > To: <nidesign@...>
> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 4:21 PM
> > Subject: [nidesign] Digest Number 86
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > There are 9 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> >       1. politician knows
> >            From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> >       2. 2nd meet -art under ground
> >            From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> >       3. buddhi sager parisad
> >            From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> >       4. Re: buddhi sager parisad
> >            From: "ayesha sarkar" <ayeshasarkar@...>
> >       5. where is Alumni association?
> >            From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
> >       6. Re: where is Alumni association?
> >            From: rebecca reubens <rebs999@...>
> >       7. Festive Mailings
> >            From: "Onio Design Pvt. Ltd." <onio2@...>
> >       8. Re: buddhi sager parisad
> >            From: "Murali" <kkmuralidharan@...>
> >       9. Re: Festive Mailings
> >            From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:24:45 -0800 (PST)
> >    From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> > Subject: politician knows
> >
> >
> > dear sudhir-manoj -bala and friends
> >
> > thanks for your views. Our designers community has never raised the well
> > drawn "ETHICS".Majbury to follow them is an other matters.we all in one
> way
> > 2 an other have our own ethic-value-choice-praorities and Majbury.As far
> as
> > our work is shared by many, time will come  that output shall be useful
to
> > society.
> >
> > I am very poor at marketing my own talent-office but certainly putting
all
> > possible efforts for my-our profession.Iam on my way to use all my good
> > office to see that DESIGN PROFESSION IS NEED OF AN HOUR.Not only to
Chief
> > Minister but to win -win elections 5 karod janta needs design inputs for
> > better quality of life.
> >
> > I am spending lot of time with others including politicians and
burocrates
> > when for Sogand vidhi(Oath Cerimony)took place on 22nd dec.they asked(i
> > offered) signage system for occation as many v vip-vip-filmy and
> industrial
> > parsonalities and very many others were aspected to attain the
> ocation.They
> > new that well design synage is required to avoid confusion.who seats
> > where-will enter from which gate parking cars and security for people
and
> > guest.they knew design of sygnage is the solution.
> >
> > I need all of you to support by diliver the goods when asked.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Gautam
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 2
> >    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:27:09 -0800 (PST)
> >    From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> > Subject: 2nd meet -art under ground
> >
> > Dear SudhirWe in A bad alumni are meeting on 11th Jan 2003 at 3-30 NID,
> for
> > the ART UNDERGROUND Thanks to Jasjitsingh and Prarthana at NID to help
and
> > co ordinate such efforts. The progress reports and other related matters
> too
> > will be on agenda.   Alumni Amit and Nandini doing the presentation of
> > digital art. Some time back at "Husain Gufa" more than 40 children
created
> > digital painting and selected entries were auctioned. The money
collected
> > was donated to disable children. Mallika Sarabhai and Darpan academy
along
> > with Computer giant H P sponsored the event. Nandi and Amit were widely
> > praised by Media for their noble and creative intention. This proved
that
> we
> > are not only busy earning for ourselves but socially conscious
> professional
> > too.We at alumni association would strongly feel to support such
efforts.
> > Anybody wants to share and raise the issue are welcome.Gautam Patel
> >
> >
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> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 3
> >    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:33:18 -0800 (PST)
> >    From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> > Subject: buddhi sager parisad
> >
> >
> > To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> >
> > Honorable Chief Minister
> >
> >
> >
> >  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> Design
> > are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN talent
is
> > resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> >
> > Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT-
> > AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National
> > Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all
> > relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join
your
> > team and assist, your well thought
> >
> >  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> >
> > .
> >
> > With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource to
> make
> > AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> >
> >
> >
> > I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion
at
> > suitable time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gautam Patel
> >
> > Vice president
> >
> > NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> >
> >
> >
> > To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> >
> > N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
much
> > more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at
your
> > survice.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 4
> >    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:39:56 -0500
> >    From: "ayesha sarkar" <ayeshasarkar@...>
> > Subject: Re: buddhi sager parisad
> >
> >
> > Since when did NID start donning a saffron guise??
> >
> > How can someone generalise an issue on behalf of the entire Alumni
> > Association? Many of us may not be party to it!!
> >
> > Regards, Ayesha
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:33:18
> >  gautam patel wrote:
> > >
> > >To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> > >
> > >Honorable Chief Minister
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> Design
> > are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN talent
is
> > resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> > >
> > >Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT-
> > AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National
> > Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all
> > relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join
your
> > team and assist, your well thought
> > >
> > > BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> > >
> > >.
> > >
> > >With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource to
> > make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion
at
> > suitable time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Gautam Patel
> > >
> > >Vice president
> > >
> > >NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> > >
> > >N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
much
> > more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at
your
> > survice.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
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> >
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> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 5
> >    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:40:12 -0000
> >    From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
> > Subject: where is Alumni association?
> >
> > Dear Gautam,
> >
> > How many members are there in Alumni Association, I assumes it is the
> > body of registered Alumni of NID that you have taken the letter on.
> >
> > But in case you meant all alumni of NID in yr letter to the chief
> > minister, its perhaps better to avoid taking consensus for granted.
> >
> > Am not sure of the thinking within Alumni in Gujarat, but Alumni
> > elsewhere may be as enthused or positive to associate with narrow
> > political purposes. These issues are at best disscussed...but action
> > and promising participation on behalf of such diverse but thinking
> > community woud amount to your loosing face when call for action comes.
> >
> > Its my humble advice to all. I am moderating this about 150 member
> > egroup, but in no way claim to be voice or representing these members.
> > Nor do i see this group as an association. I hope you would
> > understand. You may however promise the sky on behalf of yr office to
> > anybody.....but even then whenever we are taking the name of NID to
> > put some weight to our personal ambitions...we need to do it
responsibly.
> >
> >  regards
> > sudhir
> >
> >
> > --- In nidesign@y..., gautam patel <gp1412@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> > >
> > > Honorable Chief Minister
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> > Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
> > talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> > >
> > > Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project.
> > GUJARAT- AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by
> > National Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has
> > members from all relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty
> > and joy to join your team and assist, your well thought
> > >
> > >  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > > With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource
> > to make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for
> > demo/discussion at suitable time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gautam Patel
> > >
> > > Vice president
> > >
> > > NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> > >
> > > N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
> > much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can
> > be at your survice.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
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> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 6
> >    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:26:32 -0800 (PST)
> >    From: rebecca reubens <rebs999@...>
> > Subject: Re: where is Alumni association?
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> > I TOTALLY agree with Sudhir.
> > Mr. Gautam Patel does not and cannot speak for all of us without a
proper
> > discussion at a proper forum.
> > As part of the Alumni Association, Mr. Gautam Patel certainly does not
> speak
> > for me.  Personally, I for one would not personally like to part or
party
> to
> > what Mr. Gautam Patel has written.
> > This is an EXTREMELY sensitive issue for some of us. PLEASE DO NOT
> > GENERALIZE!!!!!!!!
> > Rebecca Reubens.
> > (Furniture design - convocated in 2002)
> >
> >  Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote:Dear Gautam,
> >
> > How many members are there in Alumni Association, I assumes it is the
> > body of registered Alumni of NID that you have taken the letter on.
> >
> > But in case you meant all alumni of NID in yr letter to the chief
> > minister, its perhaps better to avoid taking consensus for granted.
> >
> > Am not sure of the thinking within Alumni in Gujarat, but Alumni
> > elsewhere may be as enthused or positive to associate with narrow
> > political purposes. These issues are at best disscussed...but action
> > and promising participation on behalf of such diverse but thinking
> > community woud amount to your loosing face when call for action comes.
> >
> > Its my humble advice to all. I am moderating this about 150 member
> > egroup, but in no way claim to be voice or representing these members.
> > Nor do i see this group as an association. I hope you would
> > understand. You may however promise the sky on behalf of yr office to
> > anybody.....but even then whenever we are taking the name of NID to
> > put some weight to our personal ambitions...we need to do it
responsibly.
> >
> > regards
> > sudhir
> >
> >
> > --- In nidesign@y..., gautam patel <gp1412@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> > >
> > > Honorable Chief Minister
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> > Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
> > talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> > >
> > > Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project.
> > GUJARAT- AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by
> > National Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has
> > members from all relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty
> > and joy to join your team and assist, your well thought
> > >
> > >  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > > With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource
> > to make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for
> > demo/discussion at suitable time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gautam Patel
> > >
> > > Vice president
> > >
> > > NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> > >
> > > N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
> > much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can
> > be at your survice.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 7
> >    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:04:36 +0530
> >    From: "Onio Design Pvt. Ltd." <onio2@...>
> > Subject: Festive Mailings
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Let me change the topic a bit....(we, the super-sensitive creed,
> designers,
> > have a long way to go towards making this forum a mature discussion
> > platform)...
> > ......
> >
> > Okey... every year almost all the design agencies around the world,
think
> of
> > doing something different for the Christmas (or Diwali in our case) or
new
> > year..for promotional mailings. Rotovision has just published a book
> called
> > 'Festive- The Art and Design of Promotional Mailing' (authors website-
> > www.deadline21.co.uk) . It is available at Amazon and the synopsis goes
> like
> > this-
> >
> > "This shows how design consultancies around the world answer the
nightmare
> > brief, "what shall we do for Christmas this year?" It contains solutions
> to
> > one of the oldest problems - how to reinvent ways to charm and thank
> clients
> > for their business and convince them that you are the best creative
> resource
> > they have. From specially commissioned bottles of vodka to pressed
> > aluminium, from live Christmas trees to complete illuminated building
> > facades, this book showcases ingenuity and imagination, and includes the
> > thoughts and rationale of the designers whose work is featured."
> >
> > It may be a good idea to create a small showcase of mailings of this
> > community for the latest festive occasion i.e. new year....
> >
> > By the way, one paper lamp designed and mailed by us during 98' Diwali
has
> > found a place in this book, which features more than 150 studios across
> the
> > world. Lamp was made with hand-made paper ..... we wanted something
which
> is
> > 3D , small, foldable (less postage expenses) and usable even after the
> > festivity (and not a graphic card which is thrown away after you see
> > once).... lamp could be used directly on the bulb and it won't burn even
> > after prolonged contact with the lit bulb.
> >  (I will look for the images we had sent and upload them here)....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [This message contained attachments]
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 8
> >    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:29:15 +0530
> >    From: "Murali" <kkmuralidharan@...>
> > Subject: Re: buddhi sager parisad
> >
> > Is gautam Patel showing this letter to the community for approval or is
it
> > what he's already sent to Shree Narendra Modi?
> > Goutam's letter doesn't even sound like a formal proposal to a head of
> state
> > which should atleast reflect the dignity of what one does.
> >
> > Narendra Modi is not just a CM of a state. His name triggers a range of
> > profound emotions in almost everybody in this country right now.
> >
> > If this letter is gonig to Mr Modi, I would like to state I would have
> > nothing to do with this forum of which gautam is the vice precident.
> >
> > I also feel if Gautam wants to solicite government business of this
nature
> > he should do so on his own merit and not by using his designation as the
> > vice president of NID alumni Association.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > KK Muralidharan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   From: gautam patel
> >   To: nidesign@...
> >   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:03 PM
> >   Subject: [nidesign] buddhi sager parisad
> >
> >
> >   To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> >
> >   Honorable Chief Minister
> >
> >
> >
> >    We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> > Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
> > talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> >
> >   Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT-
> > AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National
> > Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all
> > relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join
your
> > team and assist, your well thought
> >
> >    BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> >
> >   .
> >
> >   With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource
to
> > make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> >
> >
> >
> >   I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion
> at
> > suitable time.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Gautam Patel
> >
> >   Vice president
> >
> >   NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> >
> >
> >
> >   To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> >
> >   N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
> much
> > more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at
your
> > survice.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> > Message: 9
> >    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:03:31 -0000
> >    From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
> > Subject: Re: Festive Mailings
> >
> > yes thanks,
> >
> > here is what we are mailing this year
> >
> > http://www.elephantdesign.com/newcard.htm
> >
> > we did a coffee table book on Pune- "Pune the queen of deccan"
> > two years back and are putting a reprint again this year.
> >
> > we use the book as a gift from Elephant Design, who is very proud of
> > being in Pune, and it is also sold in book stores (right now out of
> > print), its under print in Singapore.
> >
> > We are almost ready with another book- this is on Elephant Design and
> > work...plan is to put thie in bookstores too...
> >
> > We also try and gift products and ideas which are our design to
> > people we know..this way they get to know..oh u did this...we realise
> > this is much simpler and cheaper to do.
> >
> > regards
> > sudhir
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In nidesign@y..., "Onio Design Pvt. Ltd." <onio2@v...> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > Let me change the topic a bit....(we, the super-sensitive creed,
> > designers,  have a long way to go towards making this forum a mature
> > discussion platform)...
> > > ......
> > >
> > > Okey... every year almost all the design agencies around the world,
> > think of doing something different for the Christmas (or Diwali in
> > our case) or new year..for promotional mailings. Rotovision has just
> > published a book called 'Festive- The Art and Design of Promotional
> > Mailing' (authors website- www.deadline21.co.uk) . It is available at
> > Amazon and the synopsis goes like this-
> > >
> > > "This shows how design consultancies around the world answer the
> > nightmare brief, "what shall we do for Christmas this year?" It
> > contains solutions to one of the oldest problems - how to reinvent
> > ways to charm and thank clients for their business and convince them
> > that you are the best creative resource they have. From specially
> > commissioned bottles of vodka to pressed aluminium, from live
> > Christmas trees to complete illuminated building facades, this book
> > showcases ingenuity and imagination, and includes the thoughts and
> > rationale of the designers whose work is featured."
> > >
> > > It may be a good idea to create a small showcase of mailings of
> > this community for the latest festive occasion i.e. new year....
> > >
> > > By the way, one paper lamp designed and mailed by us during 98'
> > Diwali has found a place in this book, which features more than 150
> > studios across the world. Lamp was made with hand-made paper ..... we
> > wanted something which is 3D , small, foldable (less postage
> > expenses) and usable even after the festivity (and not a graphic card
> > which is thrown away after you see once).... lamp could be used
> > directly on the bulb and it won't burn even after prolonged contact
> > with the lit bulb.
> > >  (I will look for the images we had sent and upload them here)....
> >
> >
> >
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> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
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Dear alumni,

As a vice president my job is

To promote the status of design as a profession;

TO ENCOURAGE THE UPLIFTING OF DESIGN STANDARDS;

Keeping this in mind I have initiated the efforts, which many of us seem to have misunderstood.

[BUDDHI SAGAR PARISAD A BODY OF PROFFESIONALS TO GUIDE AND HELP TO PLAN AND DESIGN THE BLUE PRINT FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR GUJARAT] at last the need has been felt to have professionals in such “Parisad(council)”.

My efforts is to get DESIGN PROFFESION be considered and included as  part of it. These efforts are important for alumni association and professional body of our communities.

Tribal welfare;

 Having need to design the bamboo article for various purpose made by tribes for employment, are POLITICAL EFFORTS?

TOURISUM

Design tents and camping furniture for tourism is political efforts?

EXPORTS

Contemporary design for exports purpose handcraft of kuttch for earthquake affected people is saffronising people?

Rural development

Designing and assisting “Gram Technology” for designing farming/agriculture tool and equipment is

Naïve intension?

iNFRASTRUCTURE

In spite 98%road connectivity in Gujarat road network-stressing need for effective signage and safety for bullock karts is preposterous? COMMUNICATION

Government exhibiting more than 100s exhibition in India and abroad without any qualified exhibition designer? Reminding quality standards is my personal whims only?

there are more than 100 travelling exibitions on wheel .can,t we do anything more effective/

Poor communication systems at railway or bus terminal is not demanding any design solutions?

HEALTH

Design of children ward in city and district leval hospitals,looks more like Musafarkhana needs designers touch is only my personal feelings?

WHAT IS OUR ROLL AS DESIGNER?

SHOULD WE WAITFOR AN INVITATION ?

I woluld like you to add to the list where you and our profession can effectively contribute.

 I apologize to anyone who have express their views keeping only C.M Mr. Mody and your personal political disliking, but my intention are to make a dent at decision making with or without him.

One need not run away from any groups,saying he/she not part of it. Importance of design is not only subject of seminars . Receant  Broad band event is only for international fency,?what about our fellow contry men.? ARE YOU WITH ME?

My intensions have no colour saffron or green.

REGARDS

Gautam patel

Dear amit-rebecca-murli-deepa and friends

Firstly let me clarify that draft you reacted was for reaction of you all. (Refer adjoining mail asking for such reaction along with art under ground presentation.)

I am aware of my duty towards NIDAA. I shall certainly remove official context from; vice president nidaa. Leaving freedom to myself to act on my own capacities. However I got some phone call saying  “Kuchh Karna Mangta hai”

I see lot of  anger towards your reaction, backed by your political and democratic freedom to do so. I respect that.hatred towards political scene in Gujarat and around India was at peak, for whatever the reason.

BUT THIS GROUP OR NIDAA CERTAINLY NOT THE PLATFORM TO DO SO.

My intension to design profession has no colour.saffron or green. So leaving or joining this group or nidaa must not depend on such colours

Kindly re read my next email, and decide for yourself.

Thanks and keep reacting healthily without adding bitterness.

Regards

Hellooo!

Formally:
Vishesh Verma. 1996. Batch of 2002. Graphic design.

Informally:
We were the last 1.5 year foundation. We were the last to have
Sherna over for colour. Saw a mini flood, ban on parties,
earthquake, change in mess contractor, riots and some design!

In Bombay now, after a quick convo last month with Adi Godrej as
speaker. On my last leg of apprenticeship to Farrokh Chothia
(premier fashion photographer, India).

I'm around.
Vv.

Hi,

Me, ashish and ashwini are in Bangalore from 31st dec. till 3rd jan.
Will like to meet seniors, juniors.... (sudhir@...)
mobile 0 982220 93832.

lets meet at the lobby of the "Park Plaza" on 2nd afternoon for tea.
Please comfirm.

regards
sudhir
1983-89 GD

Subject: URGENT !


> To all members of the NID Alumni Association,
>
> I am shocked and deeply grieved that a member of the committee has written
> such a letter (to the CM of Gujarat) without any discussion or permission.
> My personal apologies to every member that such an act has happened. The
> NIDAA ( as per the Constitution ) has no political affiliations , liaisons
> or interests and will always remain so. I as Secretary of NIDAA (with
> whatever powers that have been vested in me) request all members including
> the committee members to please desist from making any such
> promises/statements either verbally or in writing without getting the
prior
> approval of the board and the mmebers (assuming that it is correct and
> allowable as per the constitution of NIDAA).
>
> At a personal level, members may on their own initiative - on their
personal
> letterhead may do whatever they feel - it is a democracy and they have the
> right just as much as I have the right to think and feel that the current
CM
> and his party are a bunch of fascists and should be hung from the nearest
> tree by their short hairs (so what if they got more seats in the elections
> by hook or by crook!) or that he is a saviour on earth to save our souls.
> But to assume that a body of professionals (of which he (Gautam)  is an
> elected representative ) is of the same opinion is rather naive and
> extremely presumptuous and preposterous !
>
> I feel Mr. Gautam Patel must apologize for his uncalled and unofficial
> letter and must send a rejoinder to the CM that he had erred and that no
> official statement has been made to the effect as conveyed in the first
> letter.
>
> Gautam, as a fellow alumni and committee member - please do not let your
> personal feelings get translated into official work without first getting
it
> approved and agreed upon by all concerned. It is not fair, correct, legal
or
> even authentic.
>
> A request to all members to please not to use the NIDAA as a spring board
> for personal initiatives/endeavours and neither to use this great website
> (and I am sure Sudhir will agree with me) for similar purposes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Sheth
> Secretary NIDAA
> (AEP-PD, 1988).
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nidesign@...>
> To: <nidesign@...>
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 4:21 PM
> Subject: [nidesign] Digest Number 86
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> There are 9 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. politician knows
>            From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
>       2. 2nd meet -art under ground
>            From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
>       3. buddhi sager parisad
>            From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
>       4. Re: buddhi sager parisad
>            From: "ayesha sarkar" <ayeshasarkar@...>
>       5. where is Alumni association?
>            From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
>       6. Re: where is Alumni association?
>            From: rebecca reubens <rebs999@...>
>       7. Festive Mailings
>            From: "Onio Design Pvt. Ltd." <onio2@...>
>       8. Re: buddhi sager parisad
>            From: "Murali" <kkmuralidharan@...>
>       9. Re: Festive Mailings
>            From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:24:45 -0800 (PST)
>    From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> Subject: politician knows
>
>
> dear sudhir-manoj -bala and friends
>
> thanks for your views. Our designers community has never raised the well
> drawn "ETHICS".Majbury to follow them is an other matters.we all in one
way
> 2 an other have our own ethic-value-choice-praorities and Majbury.As far
as
> our work is shared by many, time will come  that output shall be useful to
> society.
>
> I am very poor at marketing my own talent-office but certainly putting all
> possible efforts for my-our profession.Iam on my way to use all my good
> office to see that DESIGN PROFESSION IS NEED OF AN HOUR.Not only to Chief
> Minister but to win -win elections 5 karod janta needs design inputs for
> better quality of life.
>
> I am spending lot of time with others including politicians and burocrates
> when for Sogand vidhi(Oath Cerimony)took place on 22nd dec.they asked(i
> offered) signage system for occation as many v vip-vip-filmy and
industrial
> parsonalities and very many others were aspected to attain the
ocation.They
> new that well design synage is required to avoid confusion.who seats
> where-will enter from which gate parking cars and security for people and
> guest.they knew design of sygnage is the solution.
>
> I need all of you to support by diliver the goods when asked.
>
> thanks
>
> Gautam
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:27:09 -0800 (PST)
>    From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> Subject: 2nd meet -art under ground
>
> Dear SudhirWe in A bad alumni are meeting on 11th Jan 2003 at 3-30 NID,
for
> the ART UNDERGROUND Thanks to Jasjitsingh and Prarthana at NID to help and
> co ordinate such efforts. The progress reports and other related matters
too
> will be on agenda.   Alumni Amit and Nandini doing the presentation of
> digital art. Some time back at "Husain Gufa" more than 40 children created
> digital painting and selected entries were auctioned. The money collected
> was donated to disable children. Mallika Sarabhai and Darpan academy along
> with Computer giant H P sponsored the event. Nandi and Amit were widely
> praised by Media for their noble and creative intention. This proved that
we
> are not only busy earning for ourselves but socially conscious
professional
> too.We at alumni association would strongly feel to support such efforts.
> Anybody wants to share and raise the issue are welcome.Gautam Patel
>
>
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> Message: 3
>    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:33:18 -0800 (PST)
>    From: gautam patel <gp1412@...>
> Subject: buddhi sager parisad
>
>
> To:  Shree Narendra Modi
>
> Honorable Chief Minister
>
>
>
>  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
Design
> are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN talent is
> resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
>
> Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT-
> AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National
> Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all
> relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join your
> team and assist, your well thought
>
>  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
>
> .
>
> With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource to
make
> AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
>
>
>
> I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion at
> suitable time.
>
>
>
> Gautam Patel
>
> Vice president
>
> NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
>
>
>
> To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
>
> N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do much
> more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at your
> survice.
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
>    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:39:56 -0500
>    From: "ayesha sarkar" <ayeshasarkar@...>
> Subject: Re: buddhi sager parisad
>
>
> Since when did NID start donning a saffron guise??
>
> How can someone generalise an issue on behalf of the entire Alumni
> Association? Many of us may not be party to it!!
>
> Regards, Ayesha
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:33:18
>  gautam patel wrote:
> >
> >To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> >
> >Honorable Chief Minister
> >
> >
> >
> > We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
Design
> are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN talent is
> resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> >
> >Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT-
> AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National
> Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all
> relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join your
> team and assist, your well thought
> >
> > BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> >
> >.
> >
> >With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource to
> make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> >
> >
> >
> >I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion at
> suitable time.
> >
> >
> >
> >Gautam Patel
> >
> >Vice president
> >
> >NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> >
> >
> >
> >To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> >
> >N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do much
> more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at your
> survice.
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Message: 5
>    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:40:12 -0000
>    From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
> Subject: where is Alumni association?
>
> Dear Gautam,
>
> How many members are there in Alumni Association, I assumes it is the
> body of registered Alumni of NID that you have taken the letter on.
>
> But in case you meant all alumni of NID in yr letter to the chief
> minister, its perhaps better to avoid taking consensus for granted.
>
> Am not sure of the thinking within Alumni in Gujarat, but Alumni
> elsewhere may be as enthused or positive to associate with narrow
> political purposes. These issues are at best disscussed...but action
> and promising participation on behalf of such diverse but thinking
> community woud amount to your loosing face when call for action comes.
>
> Its my humble advice to all. I am moderating this about 150 member
> egroup, but in no way claim to be voice or representing these members.
> Nor do i see this group as an association. I hope you would
> understand. You may however promise the sky on behalf of yr office to
> anybody.....but even then whenever we are taking the name of NID to
> put some weight to our personal ambitions...we need to do it responsibly.
>
>  regards
> sudhir
>
>
> --- In nidesign@y..., gautam patel <gp1412@y...> wrote:
> >
> > To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> >
> > Honorable Chief Minister
> >
> >
> >
> >  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
> talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> >
> > Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project.
> GUJARAT- AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by
> National Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has
> members from all relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty
> and joy to join your team and assist, your well thought
> >
> >  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> >
> > .
> >
> > With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource
> to make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> >
> >
> >
> > I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for
> demo/discussion at suitable time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gautam Patel
> >
> > Vice president
> >
> > NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> >
> >
> >
> > To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> >
> > N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
> much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can
> be at your survice.
> >
> >
> >
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> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
>    Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:26:32 -0800 (PST)
>    From: rebecca reubens <rebs999@...>
> Subject: Re: where is Alumni association?
>
>
> Dear all,
> I TOTALLY agree with Sudhir.
> Mr. Gautam Patel does not and cannot speak for all of us without a proper
> discussion at a proper forum.
> As part of the Alumni Association, Mr. Gautam Patel certainly does not
speak
> for me.  Personally, I for one would not personally like to part or party
to
> what Mr. Gautam Patel has written.
> This is an EXTREMELY sensitive issue for some of us. PLEASE DO NOT
> GENERALIZE!!!!!!!!
> Rebecca Reubens.
> (Furniture design - convocated in 2002)
>
>  Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote:Dear Gautam,
>
> How many members are there in Alumni Association, I assumes it is the
> body of registered Alumni of NID that you have taken the letter on.
>
> But in case you meant all alumni of NID in yr letter to the chief
> minister, its perhaps better to avoid taking consensus for granted.
>
> Am not sure of the thinking within Alumni in Gujarat, but Alumni
> elsewhere may be as enthused or positive to associate with narrow
> political purposes. These issues are at best disscussed...but action
> and promising participation on behalf of such diverse but thinking
> community woud amount to your loosing face when call for action comes.
>
> Its my humble advice to all. I am moderating this about 150 member
> egroup, but in no way claim to be voice or representing these members.
> Nor do i see this group as an association. I hope you would
> understand. You may however promise the sky on behalf of yr office to
> anybody.....but even then whenever we are taking the name of NID to
> put some weight to our personal ambitions...we need to do it responsibly.
>
> regards
> sudhir
>
>
> --- In nidesign@y..., gautam patel <gp1412@y...> wrote:
> >
> > To:  Shree Narendra Modi
> >
> > Honorable Chief Minister
> >
> >
> >
> >  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
> talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
> >
> > Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project.
> GUJARAT- AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by
> National Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has
> members from all relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty
> and joy to join your team and assist, your well thought
> >
> >  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
> >
> > .
> >
> > With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource
> to make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
> >
> >
> >
> > I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for
> demo/discussion at suitable time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gautam Patel
> >
> > Vice president
> >
> > NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
> >
> >
> >
> > To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
> >
> > N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
> much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can
> be at your survice.
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
>    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:04:36 +0530
>    From: "Onio Design Pvt. Ltd." <onio2@...>
> Subject: Festive Mailings
>
> Hi All,
> Let me change the topic a bit....(we, the super-sensitive creed,
designers,
> have a long way to go towards making this forum a mature discussion
> platform)...
> ......
>
> Okey... every year almost all the design agencies around the world, think
of
> doing something different for the Christmas (or Diwali in our case) or new
> year..for promotional mailings. Rotovision has just published a book
called
> 'Festive- The Art and Design of Promotional Mailing' (authors website-
> www.deadline21.co.uk) . It is available at Amazon and the synopsis goes
like
> this-
>
> "This shows how design consultancies around the world answer the nightmare
> brief, "what shall we do for Christmas this year?" It contains solutions
to
> one of the oldest problems - how to reinvent ways to charm and thank
clients
> for their business and convince them that you are the best creative
resource
> they have. From specially commissioned bottles of vodka to pressed
> aluminium, from live Christmas trees to complete illuminated building
> facades, this book showcases ingenuity and imagination, and includes the
> thoughts and rationale of the designers whose work is featured."
>
> It may be a good idea to create a small showcase of mailings of this
> community for the latest festive occasion i.e. new year....
>
> By the way, one paper lamp designed and mailed by us during 98' Diwali has
> found a place in this book, which features more than 150 studios across
the
> world. Lamp was made with hand-made paper ..... we wanted something which
is
> 3D , small, foldable (less postage expenses) and usable even after the
> festivity (and not a graphic card which is thrown away after you see
> once).... lamp could be used directly on the bulb and it won't burn even
> after prolonged contact with the lit bulb.
>  (I will look for the images we had sent and upload them here)....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
>    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:29:15 +0530
>    From: "Murali" <kkmuralidharan@...>
> Subject: Re: buddhi sager parisad
>
> Is gautam Patel showing this letter to the community for approval or is it
> what he's already sent to Shree Narendra Modi?
> Goutam's letter doesn't even sound like a formal proposal to a head of
state
> which should atleast reflect the dignity of what one does.
>
> Narendra Modi is not just a CM of a state. His name triggers a range of
> profound emotions in almost everybody in this country right now.
>
> If this letter is gonig to Mr Modi, I would like to state I would have
> nothing to do with this forum of which gautam is the vice precident.
>
> I also feel if Gautam wants to solicite government business of this nature
> he should do so on his own merit and not by using his designation as the
> vice president of NID alumni Association.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> KK Muralidharan
>
>
>
>
>   From: gautam patel
>   To: nidesign@...
>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:03 PM
>   Subject: [nidesign] buddhi sager parisad
>
>
>   To:  Shree Narendra Modi
>
>   Honorable Chief Minister
>
>
>
>    We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
> Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
> talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
>
>   Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT-
> AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National
> Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all
> relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join your
> team and assist, your well thought
>
>    BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
>
>   .
>
>   With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource to
> make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
>
>
>
>   I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion
at
> suitable time.
>
>
>
>   Gautam Patel
>
>   Vice president
>
>   NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
>
>
>
>   To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
>
>   N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
much
> more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at your
> survice.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
>    Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:03:31 -0000
>    From: "Sudhir Sharma" <sudhirelephant@...>
> Subject: Re: Festive Mailings
>
> yes thanks,
>
> here is what we are mailing this year
>
> http://www.elephantdesign.com/newcard.htm
>
> we did a coffee table book on Pune- "Pune the queen of deccan"
> two years back and are putting a reprint again this year.
>
> we use the book as a gift from Elephant Design, who is very proud of
> being in Pune, and it is also sold in book stores (right now out of
> print), its under print in Singapore.
>
> We are almost ready with another book- this is on Elephant Design and
> work...plan is to put thie in bookstores too...
>
> We also try and gift products and ideas which are our design to
> people we know..this way they get to know..oh u did this...we realise
> this is much simpler and cheaper to do.
>
> regards
> sudhir
>
>
>
>
> --- In nidesign@y..., "Onio Design Pvt. Ltd." <onio2@v...> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > Let me change the topic a bit....(we, the super-sensitive creed,
> designers,  have a long way to go towards making this forum a mature
> discussion platform)...
> > ......
> >
> > Okey... every year almost all the design agencies around the world,
> think of doing something different for the Christmas (or Diwali in
> our case) or new year..for promotional mailings. Rotovision has just
> published a book called 'Festive- The Art and Design of Promotional
> Mailing' (authors website- www.deadline21.co.uk) . It is available at
> Amazon and the synopsis goes like this-
> >
> > "This shows how design consultancies around the world answer the
> nightmare brief, "what shall we do for Christmas this year?" It
> contains solutions to one of the oldest problems - how to reinvent
> ways to charm and thank clients for their business and convince them
> that you are the best creative resource they have. From specially
> commissioned bottles of vodka to pressed aluminium, from live
> Christmas trees to complete illuminated building facades, this book
> showcases ingenuity and imagination, and includes the thoughts and
> rationale of the designers whose work is featured."
> >
> > It may be a good idea to create a small showcase of mailings of
> this community for the latest festive occasion i.e. new year....
> >
> > By the way, one paper lamp designed and mailed by us during 98'
> Diwali has found a place in this book, which features more than 150
> studios across the world. Lamp was made with hand-made paper ..... we
> wanted something which is 3D , small, foldable (less postage
> expenses) and usable even after the festivity (and not a graphic card
> which is thrown away after you see once).... lamp could be used
> directly on the bulb and it won't burn even after prolonged contact
> with the lit bulb.
> >  (I will look for the images we had sent and upload them here)....
>
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I would like to add my voice to the chorus of protest regarding associating
NID alumni with Gautam Patel's activities as an individual. We have decided
to sidestep the issue of ethics for now, which is a pity in my opinion, but
can we at least make a consensus decision to not mingle design with
politics? I fail to understand why we cannot keep religion and politics
separate. If certain NID alumni choose to work with certain controversial
clients, that is their prerogative. But let us be very clear that they
cannot speak for the majority of us.

Let us focus on discussing design issues and critiquing good and bad design;
and steer clear of saffron or green or whatever colors extreme ideologies
are associated with. If we cannot manage to do that, I would request that I
be removed from this e-group.

Thanks
Deepa






>From: "Murali" <kkmuralidharan@...>
>Reply-To: nidesign@...
>To: <nidesign@...>
>Subject: Re: [nidesign] buddhi sager parisad
>Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:29:15 +0530
>
>Is gautam Patel showing this letter to the community for approval or is it
>what he's already sent to Shree Narendra Modi?
>Goutam's letter doesn't even sound like a formal proposal to a head of
>state which should atleast reflect the dignity of what one does.
>
>Narendra Modi is not just a CM of a state. His name triggers a range of
>profound emotions in almost everybody in this country right now.
>
>If this letter is gonig to Mr Modi, I would like to state I would have
>nothing to do with this forum of which gautam is the vice precident.
>
>I also feel if Gautam wants to solicite government business of this nature
>he should do so on his own merit and not by using his designation as the
>vice president of NID alumni Association.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>KK Muralidharan
>
>
>
>
>   From: gautam patel
>   To: nidesign@...
>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:03 PM
>   Subject: [nidesign] buddhi sager parisad
>
>
>   To:  Shree Narendra Modi
>
>   Honorable Chief Minister
>
>
>
>    We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
>Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
>talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
>
>   Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT-
>AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National
>Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all
>relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join your
>team and assist, your well thought
>
>    BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
>
>   .
>
>   With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource to
>make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
>
>
>
>   I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion
>at suitable time.
>
>
>
>   Gautam Patel
>
>   Vice president
>
>   NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
>
>
>
>   To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
>
>   N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
>much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at
>your survice.
>
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yes thanks,

here is what we are mailing this year

http://www.elephantdesign.com/newcard.htm

we did a coffee table book on Pune- "Pune the queen of deccan"
two years back and are putting a reprint again this year.

we use the book as a gift from Elephant Design, who is very proud of
being in Pune, and it is also sold in book stores (right now out of
print), its under print in Singapore.

We are almost ready with another book- this is on Elephant Design and
work...plan is to put thie in bookstores too...

We also try and gift products and ideas which are our design to
people we know..this way they get to know..oh u did this...we realise
this is much simpler and cheaper to do.

regards
sudhir




--- In nidesign@y..., "Onio Design Pvt. Ltd." <onio2@v...> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Let me change the topic a bit....(we, the super-sensitive creed,
designers,  have a long way to go towards making this forum a mature
discussion platform)...
> ......
>
> Okey... every year almost all the design agencies around the world,
think of doing something different for the Christmas (or Diwali in
our case) or new year..for promotional mailings. Rotovision has just
published a book called 'Festive- The Art and Design of Promotional
Mailing' (authors website- www.deadline21.co.uk) . It is available at
Amazon and the synopsis goes like this-
>
> "This shows how design consultancies around the world answer the
nightmare brief, "what shall we do for Christmas this year?" It
contains solutions to one of the oldest problems - how to reinvent
ways to charm and thank clients for their business and convince them
that you are the best creative resource they have. From specially
commissioned bottles of vodka to pressed aluminium, from live
Christmas trees to complete illuminated building facades, this book
showcases ingenuity and imagination, and includes the thoughts and
rationale of the designers whose work is featured."
>
> It may be a good idea to create a small showcase of mailings of
this community for the latest festive occasion i.e. new year....
>
> By the way, one paper lamp designed and mailed by us during 98'
Diwali has found a place in this book, which features more than 150
studios across the world. Lamp was made with hand-made paper ..... we
wanted something which is 3D , small, foldable (less postage
expenses) and usable even after the festivity (and not a graphic card
which is thrown away after you see once).... lamp could be used
directly on the bulb and it won't burn even after prolonged contact
with the lit bulb.
>  (I will look for the images we had sent and upload them here)....

From: gautam patel

To: nidesign@...

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:03 PM

Subject: [nidesign] buddhi sager parisad

To:  Shree Narendra Modi

Honorable Chief Minister

 

 We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.

Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project. GUJARAT- AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by National Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has members from all relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty and joy to join your team and assist, your well thought

 BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.

.

With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource to make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.

 

I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for demo/discussion at suitable time.

 

Gautam Patel

Vice president

NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION

 

To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350

N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can be at your survice.

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Dear all,

I TOTALLY agree with Sudhir. 

Mr. Gautam Patel does not and cannot speak for all of us without a proper discussion at a proper forum.

As part of the Alumni Association, Mr. Gautam Patel certainly does not speak for me.  Personally, I for one would not personally like to part or party to what Mr. Gautam Patel has written. 

This is an EXTREMELY sensitive issue for some of us. PLEASE DO NOT GENERALIZE!!!!!!!!

Rebecca Reubens.

(Furniture design - convocated in 2002)

 Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote:

Dear Gautam,

How many members are there in Alumni Association, I assumes it is the
body of registered Alumni of NID that you have taken the letter on.

But in case you meant all alumni of NID in yr letter to the chief
minister, its perhaps better to avoid taking consensus for granted.

Am not sure of the thinking within Alumni in Gujarat, but Alumni
elsewhere may be as enthused or positive to associate with narrow
political purposes. These issues are at best disscussed...but action
and promising participation on behalf of such diverse but thinking
community woud amount to your loosing face when call for action comes.

Its my humble advice to all. I am moderating this about 150 member
egroup, but in no way claim to be voice or representing these members.
Nor do i see this group as an association. I hope you would
understand. You may however promise the sky on behalf of yr office to
anybody.....but even then whenever we are taking the name of NID to
put some weight to our personal ambitions...we need to do it responsibly.

regards
sudhir


--- In nidesign@y..., gautam patel <gp1412@y...> wrote:
>
> To:  Shree Narendra Modi
>
> Honorable Chief Minister
>
>
>
>  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
>
> Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project.
GUJARAT- AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by
National Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has
members from all relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty
and joy to join your team and assist, your well thought
>
>  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
>
> .
>
> With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource
to make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
>
>
>
> I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for
demo/discussion at suitable time.
>
>
>
> Gautam Patel
>
> Vice president
>
> NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
>
>
>
> To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
>
> N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can
be at your survice.
>
>
>
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Dear Gautam,

How many members are there in Alumni Association, I assumes it is the
body of registered Alumni of NID that you have taken the letter on.

But in case you meant all alumni of NID in yr letter to the chief
minister, its perhaps better to avoid taking consensus for granted.

Am not sure of the thinking within Alumni in Gujarat, but Alumni
elsewhere may be as enthused or positive to associate with narrow
political purposes. These issues are at best disscussed...but action
and promising participation on behalf of such diverse but thinking
community woud amount to your loosing face when call for action comes.

Its my humble advice to all. I am moderating this about 150 member
egroup, but in no way claim to be voice or representing these members.
Nor do i see this group as an association. I hope you would
understand. You may however promise the sky on behalf of yr office to
anybody.....but even then whenever we are taking the name of NID to
put some weight to our personal ambitions...we need to do it responsibly.

  regards
sudhir


--- In nidesign@y..., gautam patel <gp1412@y...> wrote:
>
> To:  Shree Narendra Modi
>
> Honorable Chief Minister
>
>
>
>  We the young energetic team of designers from National Institute of
Design are waiting to part our talent for state of Gujarat. Our DESIGN
talent is resource to Gujarat yet not utilized to its capacity.
>
> Design and Planning is the key of foundation of any project.
GUJARAT- AHMEDABAD is the capitol of world class designers produced by
National Institute of Design. We the NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION has
members from all relevant fields of design discipline. It is our duty
and joy to join your team and assist, your well thought
>
>  BUDDHI SAGER PARISAD.
>
> .
>
> With your leadership and vision, we surely would add to the resource
to make AAPNU Gujarat- AAGVU Gujarat.
>
>
>
> I on behalf of NID Alumni Association I invite you for
demo/discussion at suitable time.
>
>
>
> Gautam Patel
>
> Vice president
>
> NID ALUMNI ASSOCIATION
>
>
>
> To contect;phone; Office:7543050 Res:6561939 moble:9825030350
>
> N:B I had design Gaurav Yatra rath; with my designers team we can do
much more.our members are presently located all around the world.can
be at your survice.
>
>
>
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