Hi Vinay,
   I had similiar doubts like you after that article in ET yesterday. This is
what our service tax consultant advices us: "Wait till a circular is officially
issued by the FM"
   In the mean while thiks is what is advised:

   1) What qualifies as services for exports- In my understanding, any services,
of which the intended consumption is  outside India and is paid by an
organization outside India qualifies for exports. These services cannot be taxed
in India... however the country where the services are offered, might charge
your clients for it, and tax may be deducted at source before payments by your
clients (depends of the laws of that country). Service tax works on a simple
principle, where are the services finally consumed? So if you offer services for
an American market , you are not liable for service tax here in India. However,
if you hire an American consultant to work on a project and make his payments
from India, you are liable to pay a service tax in his name. He cannot collect
service tax from you because he is not a tax payer in this country. This is the
only place where the service tax collection is the entire onus of the payer, in
other cases it is responsibility of both, the
  payer and the reciever. He also does not pay any other tax, because India has
'avoidance of double taxation treaty' with most of the developed countries in
the world. The concept of TDS or Witheld Tax (in U.S.) exists everywher ein the
world (apart from service tax, VAT and excise and all else).

   2) Do you have to be registered as a EOU to get tax exemption? It is not
necessary. Though, if more than 50% of your companies turnover comes from
exported services, or you may want to eventually set up in an SEZ, and you are
inclined to take tax sops that come with being a EUO, it is advisable that you
register your company as an EOU.

   3) what does "speciality design services" mean, and what is not a speciality
design service. This is exactly the same issue i raised with my tax consultant.
His responce was, we will need to study the amendments to service tax laws for
2007 after the FM releases the official note. His opinion was that, every year,
a lot of tax brackets fall in the grey areas. Last year, there were sevral grey
areas about service tax... including that of design services. The ET report
seems to clearly say, any kind of enhancements or customization fall under that
category from now on. Now for example, if you practice usability or conduct user
studies... you are in a way customizinfg products to users requirements... but
isnt that in any kind of design? if you are a textile or apprel designer or
product designer, can you desing a product which is not intended to be used by
users? is that customization then? What about strategic design, it does not
deliver a solution, nor necessarily a
  service.
   My problem is a bit different- Who is advising the government on what are the
definitions of design services... and what is specialized services then?
   My original post that triggered this discussion (you may now call it
premonition) had exactly the same question. What body of professional designers
is informing the government about these activities. Is it institutes like NID or
IDC or organizations like CII? How do we (professional designers and design
companies) get our views heard? Can we get them heard before such decision are
made?
   I agree with Dinesh's views on this subject. What could be an actionable plan
though?
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Dear Uma

I agree with much of your concerns and they are all on my mind and some.

I have been always inspired by the systematic work of Prof. Frei Otto
the German engineer / architect who championed the whole area of
light-weight structures and in the process built an amazing team and an
Institute for research into the subject in Stuttgart, Germany in the
late sixties and early seventies. I was fortunate to have access to all
their books of the IL series in the mid eighties since I had been
invited to write about bamboo in IL 31 which was published in 1985.
However when I got my personal set of all IL publications available at
that time, almost 40+ in number, I saw their IL 20 which is an all time
   classic called "Tasks". This book is a complete listing of the
brainstorming done by the Institute research team in 1979 of all the
specific research opportunities that the sector of Lightweight
Architecture offered to many disciplines which may be interested in the
subject and these also represented all that would need to be done in
order to make the field a credible and effective one in the real world.
They then went on to do much of this research and they have resulted in
several great offerings of which the Munich Olympic stadium made of
membrane nets for the roof  is just one example.

This kind of opportunity mapping is perhaps what we will need to do in
India across the 230 sectors of our economy including rural and urban
activities and like the Frei Otto publication, IL 20 TASKS, we will
need to illustrate these individual opportunities, using design skills
and imagination, with small sketches so that these specific micro
opportunities are then placed in context and prioritised so that
students and researchers as well as companies and governments can make
it their own mission and the result will be a design driven sector or
even a design driven nation, if we can set our target very high, which
I believe we need to do now. These sketches are inmportant so that it
does not become a boring Planning Commission document that only the
economists can understand but can help involve all stakeholders in the
process since it can be appreciated and understood by all alike.

I my Design Concepts and Concerns class at NID we have been using this
approach to introduce the macro-micro processes of design thinking and
in 2001, 2002 and 2003 we did produce a major listing within the
framework of the course for design opportunities in India. These need
to be refined and articulated, sector by sector and this is why I have
been advocating sector specific design instutions so that this strategy
can be the baby of each such sectoral institution like the IICD, Jaipur
for the Crafts sector and the BCDI, Agartala for the Bamboo Sector and
so on. We need many more such initiatives across India if we are to
make a meaningful dent in the scale of the problem at hand.

Yes, we can now all work together online and speed up the process
enormously and I am happy to seed this is indeed happening at the
National and at the International level with initiatives like the
"Design with India" strategy meeting at the Asia Society in New York is
   taking momentum as we unfold these strategies and share our ideas with
an intention to make a huge change in the near and distant future in
areas of numerous areas of need around the world.

I do hope that we can sustain this momentum and make design a central
concern in India instead of it remaining at the periphery as it is
unfortunately located today as far as National priorites are concerned.
Let us just do it since it is just do-able. What say all of you?

With warm regards

M P Ranjan
from my office at NID
1 February 2007 at 1.05 pm IST

Prof M P Ranjan
Faculty of Design
Head, Centre for Bamboo Initiatives at NID (CFBI-NID)
Chairman, GeoVisualisation Task Group (DST, Govt. of India) (2006-2008)
Faculty Member on Governing Council (2003 - 2005)
National Institute of Design
Paldi
Ahmedabad 380 007 India

Tel: (off) 91 79 26623692 ext 1090 (changed in January 2006)
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On 01-Feb-07, at 11:09 AM, Uma Chandru wrote:

> Dear Ranjan,
> I do agree that our supercial engagement with crafts must also be
> examined critically.
> However, I think the topic of a more inclusive Design for India (rural
> or urban) calls for a conference/workshop/thinktank that we should
> plan on organizing after you get back. I for one am interested.
>
> The issues (HIV Aids, Water Mission, Primary Health, Primary
> Education and Two way Communication,) that is accessible to all_ you
> raise are important and gaining relevance in current discourses in
> many developing nations and soem of them were also discussed at the
> World economic Forum in davos that I recently attended ( albeit from a
> business perpsective). There are also several other important diseases
> and issues that one could include-not just HIV but other diseeases of
> the poor-TB and malaria, and also the chronic diabetes of which is
> increasing in the Indian population. Among the specific
> micro-opportunities-there are some great examples of  access to
> "quality" education and various types of infrastructure (while water
> is certainly important-access to electricity, LPG, transport) for the
> poor (urban as well as rural)-and many of these are not just from
> trained designers or design educators.
>
>
> We should therefore incldue examples of appropriate/user-design  for
> rural and urban poor/disabled in India not just from the faculty and
> graduates of design institutions and conventional design firms but
> also outside of the traditional design circles-e.g. grassroot
> innovators, NGO sectors, and social entrepeneurs like TIDE, etc.
>
> Warm regards
> Uma
>
> Uma V Chandru
> Faculty of Design
> Srishti School of Art, Design and Technology
> P.O. Box 6430, Yelahanka
> Bangalore-560064
> India
> +91-98440-80227
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: designindia@... on behalf of Ranjan M P
> Sent: Sun 1/28/2007 4:12 PM
> To: designindia@...
> Cc: ranjanmp@...; faculty@...
> Subject: Re: [designindia] Is "Design for India" flying under the
> radar?
>
> Dear Prof Nadkarni.
>
> Good question. What about it? Shall we discuss it here?
>
> How doas Design in India address the rural issues, other than the
> fairly
> superficial engagement with the crafts which everyone tends to talk
> about? I would love to have a list of ongoing and past engagements by
> the Indian design community in this sector and I am sure that we will
> have a fairly substantial one if we put on our thinking hats on and try
> and draw up a list. HIV Aids, Water Mission, Primary Health, Primary
> Education and Two way Communication that is accessible to all are all
> part of this massive agenda. You may want to add specific
> micro-opportunities that we can try and address at the individual level
> with our skill sets and thinking styles as well as with our committment
> and sensitive engagement. Our students too need to hear this from all
> of
> you based on you experience in working with India over all these years.
> Let us not forget the Jawaja project or the Jaipur foot and so many
> others like them which may not be reported by the fashion conscious
> media and officials in India.
>
> We are at the threshold of massive change in rural India as we know it
> and as we may have known it any time ob=ver the past five thousand
> years
> since the Urbanisation move is just about crossing the tipping point of
> 50 percent and the change is accelerating from there by all indicators
> available to planners and politicians alike. Is this a desirable
> direction is altogether another question and it is not being asked by
> anyone that I am in contact with and if this list has names and
> achievements in rural India I would request you to share these for a
> more informed discussion on this list.
>
> I know that what we romanticise as Rural India is evaporating right
> before our eyes as we see SEZ's and Retail chains making a beeline for
> the "Bottom of the Pymarid" and it is my deep belief that the "Pyramid"
> will strike back and with a creative effect if designers get involved
> deeply with offering alternate scenarios that can then be adopted by
> political agencies or better still with designers and design managers
> with political aspirations to make it happen on the ground.
>
> We have been working on the crafts sector for many years in the belief
> that this would make  adifferebnce to many lives in rural India. Now I
> see that it has to go a lot further to include core offerings that can
> be both produced and consumed in the same area to generate sufficient
> resources to support a good life if the mad scramble for urbanisation
> is
> stemmed in its tide. However we need to be there to be able to look at
> the local to local or we need to get design skills and design thinking
> into the hands of as many rural inhabitants as possible so that they
> can
> solve their own needs and aspirations by local action. This means
> education and on this front we have a long way to go to get design
> thinking on the education agenda.
>
> This note is therefoe a call for examples that are not being reported
> by
> the design media and is still flyiong under the radar as some would
> call
> it in the USA. If I have your list, all of you, and it need not be what
> has been done successfully but even what you think needs to be done
> with
> an indication of how you se it going foreward, I can take some of these
> up during my presentation at the "Design with India" meet in New York
> on
> the 5th February 2007. Yes I will be there thanks to support from the
> Asia Society for my air ticket and I hope to bring back names of
> interested thought leaders in design who want to work with all of us
> and
> if this meeting can help identify the deeply committed ones it will be
> a
> bonus after all the other objectives have been met.
>
> The "Design with India' meet is an outcome of the numerous discussions
> that have been happening on this very list and all of you can take
> pride
> that we have collectively helped move the "Design with India' agenda
> forward firts through our interventions and support for the event in
> New
> Delhi and now this forthcoming meeting in New York. In case you missed
> out on New Delhi and New York I would ask you to stay focussed and look
> out for future design initiatives that will attempt to place design on
> the National agenda and also ytake it to places that it has not been
> before.
>
> When I met Patrick Whitney Director, ID IIT Chicago last September he
> was keen to discuss matters of slums in India, particularly the Dharavi
> slum in Mumbai where they have an active programme of research in
> progress in partnership with Sam Pitroda and C K Prahalad and many
> Institutions in India. Can we help draw up a long list of design
> opportunities in India and share it on a website by sharing a designers
> perspective that includes both Urban as well as Rural, since bot are
> desparately in need of design and not just a bit of "powder and puff"
> at
> the superficial level, a systems approach if you may call it that.
>
> I am speaking to our foundation students on the 2nd February just a day
> before they head out for their environmental exposure course in rural
> Rajasthan and I would love to add a feww examples of design
> opportunities that are from this list. I leave for New York that night
> and am back to take their course in Design Concepts and Concerns
> starting in the later part of February 2007. I am putting together a
> list of themes that we have covered in this course over the years since
> I started teaching it with various colleagues at NID.
>
> I look forward to hearing from the list some of your ideas on what
> design can really do in India and this should set the agenda for the
> "Design with India" initiatives going forward.
>
> So, Professor Nadkarni, thank you for being at your provocative best
> and
> triggeringb this response. Last week Prof. Gui Bonsieppe wrote to NID
> asking what kinds of research we are doing these days and I sent him a
> long note from my office to supplement what the NID Research Department
> had put together and it is apparant to me that a lot of things are
> happening "under the radar" which needs to be reported and critically
> reappraised by the design community in a peer review process which is
> missing in my opinion.
>
> Does anyone have a list of all 6,50,000 villages of India and the
> nearest train stations and hospitals etc? I would love to have such a
> list online and as a mashup on Geegle Earth which can be used by every
> Indian if and when all our villages get broadband, and food, milk and
> honey, in that order? What are our priorities? Needs? Aspirations?
> Ideas???
>
> Anyone?
>
> By the way I am also interested in urban India and all the airline
> passengers who are now  flying in droves using the under 20 Rupees
> tickets (plus the 800 Rupees Tax of course). What are their aspirations
> and what do they expect from their favorite airline? Any guesses? Any
> insights on what the airline industry can do to make it better? and so
> on for as many as 230 other sectors of our economy that need design
> today but may not know it as yet, so much for flying "under the radar".
>
> I hope to see you for the "Italian Design on Tour" event at Mumbai on
> the 12th February.
>
> With warm regards
>
> M P Ranjan
> from my Mac at home on the NID campus
> 28 January 2007 at 4.05 pm IST
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Prof M P Ranjan
> Faculty of Design
> Head, Centre for Bamboo Initiatives at NID (CFBI-NID)
> Chairman, GeoVisualisation Task Group (DST, Govt. of India) (2006-2008)
> Faculty Member on Governing Council (2003 - 2005)
> National Institute of Design
> Paldi
> Ahmedabad 380 007 India
>
> Tel: (off) 91 79 26623692 ext 1090 (changed in January 2006)
> Tel: (res) 91 79 26610054
> Fax: 91 79 26605242
>
> email: ranjanmp@...
> web site: http://homepage.mac.com/ranjanmp/
> web domain: http://www.ranjanmp.in
> _______________________________________________________________________
>
> Subject:Re: [designindia] send "Design for Urban India"
> Date:Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:57:17 -0800 (PST)
> From:sudhakar nadkarni <nadkarni36@...>
> To:designindia@...
>
> what happen to rural india ?
>
> Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote: Dear All,
>
> I would be presenting a compiled slide show on "Designs for Urban
> India" at "Design with India"- New York (www.designwithindia.com)
>
> Please do mail me four slides of your recent Designs, each slide
> with your name/ your companies name / email id. Send these slides on
> the e amil id sudhirelephant@... only.
>
> Please write "Slides" in subject line.
>
> I am looking forward to meeting Designindia members in US/ Canada in
> New York.
>
> regards
>
> Sudhir Sharma
> 1989 nid
> Elephant
>
> Designindia
>
>
>

Hi Vinay,

There are two types of incomes for registered exporters: Export income and
income in DTA (Domestic Tariff Area). Export income is all income in foreign
currency and domestic income from registered exporters (there are some
guidelines for DTA exemptions). DTA part of income is taxed for exporters -- it
is the income from India (non-exports).

As far as I understand the term 'services availed within the country' it means
if you are providing services whose intended use is in India, the government may
levy service tax on it. The services whose intended use is not within India may
not be taxed. Usually services whose intended use is in India are routed through
Indian subsidiaries of MNCs or are availed by companies registered in India. So,
this also can mean that all services paid in INR are taxed (except services to
registered exporters) and services paid in foreign currency are not taxed.

- Ripul

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----- Original Message ----
From: Vinay Rao <vr@...>
To: designindia@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:40:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [designindia] Service Tax and Design brain drain]













             Hi Dinesh



Thanks for publishing the link. I agree that being properly identified

is the first step to representation and lobbying (which came up in a

prior discussion). But I'd still ask the same questions:

1. Does this mean that (such) design services are currently exempt from

the service tax net?

2. What does 'services availed within the country' mean? Are local

companies liable to collect service tax from overseas clients because

THEY (the overseas client) are availing of a service within THIS country?

I got a response to the negative on this, but the tax rules seem to be

fuzzy enough to be interpreted as is convenient by either side (the govt

vs you)

3. If we are 'speciality' design services, what are 'ordinary' design

services?



Vinay

Bang*

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Dinesh Korjan wrote:

> hi vinay

>

> thanks for the info. link to the news item on the web is

> http://economictime s.indiatimes. com/Money_ Matters/Tax_ Centre/Tax_
News/Govt_ has_designs_ on_service_ tax/articleshow/ 1541845.cms

> or http://tinyurl. com/2t5xsg

>

> in a way, this is a relief and sets aside the confusion of whether we

> fall in the intellectual property services, consulting engineers, or

> fashion design category etc. and would help a lot in dealing with the

> department. at present, the closest fit was intellectual property

> services. but then, it wasn't applicable if there were full transfer of

> copyrights.

>

> regards.

> dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad (nid pd 1976)

>

> Vinay Rao wrote:

>

>>Today's ET carries a front page article on the Govt's plan to include

>>'speciality' design services in the service tax net, including

>>advertising design, industrial product design, and jewellery design. The

>>govt, in its infinite wisdom, apparently plans to rake in big bucks from

>>industrial product design. (Strange, because it seems to be the one area

>>of design with the least amount of activity).

>>

>>it also says that the govt is in no mood to remove the 12% service tax

>>on exporters for services availed within the country.

>>

>>Questions then:

>>1. Does this mean that (such) design services are currently exempt from

>>the service tax net?

>>2. What does 'services availed within the country' mean? Are local

>>companies liable to collect service tax from overseas clients because

>>THEY are availing of a service within THIS country?

>>3. If we are 'speciality' design services, what are 'ordinary' design

>>services?

>>

>>[V]

>>Bang*

>>IITD 96-98

>>

>>

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On 1/26/07, Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote:
>
>   I am compiling images of real people living in real environments of
> urban india. The purpose is to show the contrast between the two
> realities ( Urban and rural)running parallel in the foyer at "Design
> with India" New york.
> what the lifestyle of urban india is like.
>
> The ppt needs to show all the facets of urban life in India.
>
> Please contribute images from your environments- send short ppts ( 5
> slides) with your name on each slide on the id
> sudhirelephant@... <sudhirelephant%40gmail.com>. Put 'real people"
> in subject.
>
> sudhir
>
>
>


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Dear All
M P Ranjan and myself from NID would participate in the Design with India
  < www.designwithindia.com>
Meet at New York on 5th Feb and later to visit a few design institutes.
Look forward to see many familiar as well new faces over there.

Well Wishes
Sudarshan Khanna

Principal Designer & Head, Toy Centre
Chairman, Research & Publications
National Institute of Design (NID)
Ahmedabad-380007, India
Tel. +91 79 2662 3692 ext 1081
Fax; +91 79 2662 1167   Mobile +91 982 40 52 897
<khanna@...>          <toycentre@...>
  www.sudarshankhanna.com

Hey Vishal,

What will be the tentative dates for this workshop?
Can one join to assist the designer or in some way be part of the
experience?

best,
Shipra
(Designer, DK Travel)
+91 11 9810414324


>From: "Simrit Brar" <simritbrar@...>
>Reply-To: designindia@...
>To: designindia@...
>Subject: Re: [designindia] hand made paper project
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:52:13 +0000
>
>Hi Vishal
>What are the dates of this workshop? Who owns the right to produce
>products developed through this?
>Thanks
>
>Simrit Brar
>NID, Communication Design, 1994
>Smart Design, New York
>simritbrar.com
>
>On 31 Jan 2007 07:05:13 -0000, vishal  kapur <kapurvishal@...>
>wrote:
> > hello everybody,
> > This is a posting for a project available with the development
>commissioner
> > handicrafts, ministry of textiles for developing handmade paper and
>paper
> > products through a 15 day workshop to be conducted at Sanganer, Jaipur
> > Rajasthan at a handmade paper factory.A group of 15 ratsians would be
> > provided with whom the designer can work.The designer will be awarded an
> > honorarium of Rs.35000 for this project(travel and stay at Sanganer
> > inclusive for 15 days).A soft copy of documentation of the project is
> > required for completion.50% advance would be given to commence the
>project.
> >
> > If anybody interested please mail me with resume.students on vacation,
> > waiting for dp enquiries, looking for industrial trainings may also
>apply
> > for this short term project
> >
> > thanks
> > vishal kapur
> > NID textile design 2000
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>Simrit Brar
>cell: 646 591 7599
>http://simritbrar.com

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hi vinay

1.
in my view, yes. the move to include this service in its own category
corroborates this fact. please refer to my correspondence with service
tax department and their replies. (uploaded in the files section a long
time back - http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/designindia/files/ .look
for pdf files named servTax1stuko, servTax2reply & serTax3clafn)

2.
i suppose there is a difference depending on what currency your earnings
are in. foreign currency earnings are treated as export while payments
in INR are treated as service provided within the country.

3.
i imagine this is just another term used to differentiate between design
services under 'consulting engineers' etc.

regards
dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad (nid pd 1976)


Vinay Rao wrote:
>
> Hi Dinesh
>
> Thanks for publishing the link. I agree that being properly identified
> is the first step to representation and lobbying (which came up in a
> prior discussion). But I'd still ask the same questions:
> 1. Does this mean that (such) design services are currently exempt from
> the service tax net?
> 2. What does 'services availed within the country' mean? Are local
> companies liable to collect service tax from overseas clients because
> THEY (the overseas client) are availing of a service within THIS country?
> I got a response to the negative on this, but the tax rules seem to be
> fuzzy enough to be interpreted as is convenient by either side (the govt
> vs you)
> 3. If we are 'speciality' design services, what are 'ordinary' design
> services?
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Dinesh

Thanks for publishing the link. I agree that being properly identified
is the first step to representation and lobbying (which came up in a
prior discussion). But I'd still ask the same questions:
1. Does this mean that (such) design services are currently exempt from
the service tax net?
2. What does 'services availed within the country' mean? Are local
companies liable to collect service tax from overseas clients because
THEY (the overseas client) are availing of a service within THIS country?
I got a response to the negative on this, but the tax rules seem to be
fuzzy enough to be interpreted as is convenient by either side (the govt
vs you)
3. If we are 'speciality' design services, what are 'ordinary' design
services?

Vinay
Bang*
IITD 96~98

Dinesh Korjan wrote:
> hi vinay
>
> thanks for the info. link to the news item on the web is
>
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Money_Matters/Tax_Centre/Tax_News/Govt_has_d\
esigns_on_service_tax/articleshow/1541845.cms
> or http://tinyurl.com/2t5xsg
>
> in a way, this is a relief and sets aside the confusion of whether we
> fall in the intellectual property services, consulting engineers, or
> fashion design category etc. and would help a lot in dealing with the
> department. at present, the closest fit was intellectual property
> services. but then, it wasn't applicable if there were full transfer of
> copyrights.
>
> regards.
> dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad (nid pd 1976)
>
> Vinay Rao wrote:
>
>>Today's ET carries a front page article on the Govt's plan to include
>>'speciality' design services in the service tax net, including
>>advertising design, industrial product design, and jewellery design. The
>>govt, in its infinite wisdom, apparently plans to rake in big bucks from
>>industrial product design. (Strange, because it seems to be the one area
>>of design with the least amount of activity).
>>
>>it also says that the govt is in no mood to remove the 12% service tax
>>on exporters for services availed within the country.
>>
>>Questions then:
>>1. Does this mean that (such) design services are currently exempt from
>>the service tax net?
>>2. What does 'services availed within the country' mean? Are local
>>companies liable to collect service tax from overseas clients because
>>THEY are availing of a service within THIS country?
>>3. If we are 'speciality' design services, what are 'ordinary' design
>>services?
>>
>>[V]
>>Bang*
>>IITD 96-98
>>
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Dear Uday,
Recently read this book called 'Identities and Violance - by Amritya Sen' it
resonate with the thought you have articulated

Partho Guha
Elephant
NID VC 89


----- Original Message ----
From: Uday Dandavate <uday@...>
To: designindia@...
Sent: Monday, 29 January, 2007 5:51:19 PM
Subject: [designindia] Living with Multiple Identities


Hello everyone,

I am sharing an article I wrote for the Janata Weekly and for the
Radical Humanist Weekly yesterday with you. I hope you all enjoy
reading it.

Thanks


Uday


Who am I?

By: Uday Dandavate



In her article, “Our million Prejudices”, which has appeared in the
Indian Express of January 26th Farah Baria, suggests, “Racism has
always exemplified the dark side of human nature. In fact, the
history of the world is nothing but the history of prejudice: wars
have been fought, empires built and nations forged by the very human
need for superiority and ethnic supremacy.”  Though the provocation
for this article was a recent controversy over the racist treatment
meted out to an Indian member of a British reality show, the article
bypasses an important issue that must be addressed. Though it is true
that prejudices are the symptoms that have grave ramifications for
the future of world peace, to understand the root cause of much of
the prejudice worldwide it is important to understand issues of
identity.



Human beings are a cultural species. Our sense of identity is defined
by our sense of affiliation to a group of people, region, ideas or
ideologies. We differentiate ourselves from other human beings and
from other living species by comparing and contrasting our identities
with those of others. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, the architect of the Indian
constitution once said, “Unlike a drop of water which loses its
identity when it joins the ocean, man does not lose his being in the
society in which he lives. Man's life is independent. He is born not
for the development of the society alone, but for the development of
his self.”



Abraham Maslow, the famous American psychologist who is noted for
proposing hierarchy of human needs and theory of self-actualization
also suggests that issues of identity are intricately linked to an
individual’s sense of who he or she can be. Maslow suggests, “A
musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if
he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. What a man can be, he
must be.”  In his essay, The Farther Reaches of Human Nature, Maslow
also proposed that people who have reached self-actualization, the
highest level in the hierarchy of human needs, will sometimes
experience a state of transcendence, in which they become aware of
not only their own fullest potential, but the fullest potential of
human beings at large. The problem the world faces today is that
people who are fighting cultural wars have been denied the
opportunity to engage in ideas that give them a positive sense of
connection to the future and their role in it. As a result, a very
large population around the world is experiencing a sense of
conflict, despair, prejudice, and discrimination. Terrorism and wars
are only symptoms of this milieu.



I often wonder, “Who am I?” where does my sense of identity come
from? Is it possible to build a society that is free from prejudice
and discrimination? I was fortunate to have been born in a family
that was focused on future; to have grown up with people who fought
the designs of the traditionalists and fundamentalists; to have
chosen the profession of design, which is about change and about
improving the quality of life for ordinary people. I am very
enthusiastic about the fact that connectivity has made information
more accessible to people, and that there is a growing awareness
about citizens’ right to information. I feel very privileged to be
living at a time when I can dare to dream about the future with
optimism.



My sense of identity comes from different levels of connections to
different ideas and entities. I am proud of my native language
Marathi and of the wealth of knowledge and insights about the world I
have gained from Marathi literature. I am proud of my family,
especially their commitment to social reforms. I am proud to be an
Indian, especially at a time when Indians are attracting the
attention of the world with their intellectual and entrepreneurial
contribution. My experience as a researcher of people, cultures and
trends has cultivated in me a sense of being a global citizen and my
connection to humanity. I am very curious about the principles of
nature and feel that the human race needs to respect our
responsibility in preserving the ecological balance. My connection to
the future is greater than my pride in my past. I am inspired more by
ideas than by ideologies. My actions are driven more by a desire for
harmony than by a focus on my destiny. I do believe that the freedom
from prejudice is possible if we educate people about multiple levels
of identities we must live and teach them to feel optimistic about
the future. The world will then be a better place.

Charles F. Kettering, an engineer, a social philosopher and an
inventor said,

“We should all be concerned about the future because we will have to
spend the rest of our lives there.”

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hi vinay

thanks for the info. link to the news item on the web is
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Money_Matters/Tax_Centre/Tax_News/Govt_has_d\
esigns_on_service_tax/articleshow/1541845.cms
or http://tinyurl.com/2t5xsg

in a way, this is a relief and sets aside the confusion of whether we
fall in the intellectual property services, consulting engineers, or
fashion design category etc. and would help a lot in dealing with the
department. at present, the closest fit was intellectual property
services. but then, it wasn't applicable if there were full transfer of
copyrights.

regards.
dinesh korjan . studio korjan . ahmedabad (nid pd 1976)

Vinay Rao wrote:
>
> Today's ET carries a front page article on the Govt's plan to include
> 'speciality' design services in the service tax net, including
> advertising design, industrial product design, and jewellery design. The
> govt, in its infinite wisdom, apparently plans to rake in big bucks from
> industrial product design. (Strange, because it seems to be the one area
> of design with the least amount of activity).
>
> it also says that the govt is in no mood to remove the 12% service tax
> on exporters for services availed within the country.
>
> Questions then:
> 1. Does this mean that (such) design services are currently exempt from
> the service tax net?
> 2. What does 'services availed within the country' mean? Are local
> companies liable to collect service tax from overseas clients because
> THEY are availing of a service within THIS country?
> 3. If we are 'speciality' design services, what are 'ordinary' design
> services?
>
> [V]
> Bang*
> IITD 96-98
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Today's ET carries a front page article on the Govt's plan to include
'speciality' design services in the service tax net, including
advertising design, industrial product design, and jewellery design. The
govt, in its infinite wisdom, apparently plans to rake in big bucks from
industrial product design. (Strange, because it seems to be the one area
of design with the least amount of activity).

it also says that the govt is in no mood to remove the 12% service tax
on exporters for services availed within the country.

Questions then:
1. Does this mean that (such) design services are currently exempt from
the service tax net?
2. What does 'services availed within the country' mean? Are local
companies liable to collect service tax from overseas clients because
THEY are availing of a service within THIS country?
3. If we are 'speciality' design services, what are 'ordinary' design
services?

[V]
Bang*
IITD 96-98

Hi Vishal
What are the dates of this workshop? Who owns the right to produce
products developed through this?
Thanks

Simrit Brar
NID, Communication Design, 1994
Smart Design, New York
simritbrar.com

On 31 Jan 2007 07:05:13 -0000, vishal  kapur <kapurvishal@...> wrote:
> hello everybody,
> This is a posting for a project available with the development commissioner
> handicrafts, ministry of textiles for developing handmade paper and paper
> products through a 15 day workshop to be conducted at Sanganer, Jaipur
> Rajasthan at a handmade paper factory.A group of 15 ratsians would be
> provided with whom the designer can work.The designer will be awarded an
> honorarium of Rs.35000 for this project(travel and stay at Sanganer
> inclusive for 15 days).A soft copy of documentation of the project is
> required for completion.50% advance would be given to commence the project.
>
> If anybody interested please mail me with resume.students on vacation,
> waiting for dp enquiries, looking for industrial trainings may also apply
> for this short term project
>
> thanks
> vishal kapur
> NID textile design 2000
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


--
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cell: 646 591 7599
http://simritbrar.com

hello everybody,
This is a posting for a project available with the development commissioner
handicrafts, ministry of textiles for developing handmade paper and paper
products through a 15 day workshop to be conducted at Sanganer, Jaipur Rajasthan
at a handmade paper factory.A group of 15 ratsians would be provided with whom
the designer can work.The designer will be awarded an honorarium of Rs.35000 for
this project(travel and stay at Sanganer inclusive for 15 days).A soft copy of
documentation of the project is required for completion.50% advance would be
given to commence the project.

If anybody interested please mail me with resume.students on vacation, waiting
for dp enquiries, looking for industrial trainings may also apply for this short
term project

thanks
vishal kapur
NID textile design 2000

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Paridhi,

The website of the company that you saw is not updated for long and is already
in the process to be revamped totally. As regards Projex, we are one of the
oldest and biggest well known exhibition design and management organisation in
Dubai, UAE. Its a multicultural setup of people from India, UK, Jordan,
Pakistan, Phillipines with top management being UK guys.

We are a full fledged company with a design studio, marketing, accounts, Admin
department and our own big state of the art workshop, warehouses and prebuild
mockup areas. We give exhibition show management services thats is the total
shell scheme and upgraded pavilions build options as well as building special
stands and retail kiosks.

The design studio is fully equipped studio with the best hardware and all the
latest updated software and at present has 4 designers. I am an Architect with
more than 10 yrs experience, passout from SPA Delhi heading the design studio.
theres one more Architect and 2 Exhibition designers. We are expanding and also
planning to get in to retail and commercial interiors so looking forward to add
more designers with excellent experience in exhibition and commercial interior
industry.

If you think you fit the criteria set for the profile I had posted on design
India, please send us your latest CV first and your portfolio to begin with to
know your capabilities and strengths. Please e mail me on peeyush@...
and make sure we do not accept mails exceeding 2 MB in total.

Best Wishes,
Peeyush


paridhi rishi <paridhi_77@...> wrote:                                 
Dear Piyush

  I am an architect, graduated from Chandigarh College
  of Architecture in 2000, and completed my post grad.
  in Industrial Design from NID in 2005.

  I am currently working with Quetzel Designs India Pvt.
  Ltd.Bangalore
  We, at Quetzel, have a manufacturing set up for
  furniture and have our own line of furniture as well
  as deal with retail projects.
  www.quetzel.com

  I have gone through the website of the company but I
  am keen to know more on the company profile and
  infrastructure & set up. So, could you please mail me
  about the infrastructure, Design Department set up
  and strength of designers in the company.

  Regards
  Paridhi

  --- peeyush aras <peeyusharas@...> wrote:

  > having managed clients in over 1000 trade shows
  > across the region, Projex is one of the leading
  > organizations in the UAE providing exhibition design
  > & management services to many of the world’s top
  > brand & companies. We are looking for
  >
  > Exhibition Designer / Architect
  >
  > * An Architectural degree holder with minimum 4-5
  > yrs experience in exhibitions, brand and retail
  > interior design.
  > * Good multitasker with strong conceptualizing and
  > visualizing capabilities
  > * Good eye for detail and experience with the
  > fabrication/production process
  > * Quick thinker with good presentation skills and
  > making fabrication drawings.
  > * Proficient at using softwares like 3D Max, ACAD,
  > Photoshop, Illustrator, Coreldraw etc and making
  > walkthrus will be an added advantage.
  > *  the position needs excellent english knowledge (
  > spoken and written.)
  >
  > If you are interested in relocating to Dubai ,UAE
  > which is growing at a phenomenal rate, has a
  > cosmopolitan modern and multi cultural outlook and
  > fast becoming the most  important business hub in
  > the middle east, please send your latest CV with
  > portfolio and any links to online works/website to
  > peeyush@.... You can expect a very
  > competitive tax free salary and ticket and 30
  > days/year annual paid leave to home country are some
  > of the few benefits of working in Dubai.
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paridhi rishi <paridhi_77@...> wrote:                                 
Dear Piyush

  I am an architect, graduated from Chandigarh College
  of Architecture in 2000, and completed my post grad.
  in Industrial Design from NID in 2005.

  I am currently working with Quetzel Designs India Pvt.
  Ltd.Bangalore
  We, at Quetzel, have a manufacturing set up for
  furniture and have our own line of furniture as well
  as deal with retail projects.
  www.quetzel.com

  I have gone through the website of the company but I
  am keen to know more on the company profile and
  infrastructure & set up. So, could you please mail me
  about the infrastructure, Design Department set up
  and strength of designers in the company.

  Regards
  Paridhi

  --- peeyush aras <peeyusharas@...> wrote:

  > having managed clients in over 1000 trade shows
  > across the region, Projex is one of the leading
  > organizations in the UAE providing exhibition design
  > & management services to many of the world�s top
  > brand & companies. We are looking for
  >
  > Exhibition Designer / Architect
  >
  > * An Architectural degree holder with minimum 4-5
  > yrs experience in exhibitions, brand and retail
  > interior design.
  > * Good multitasker with strong conceptualizing and
  > visualizing capabilities
  > * Good eye for detail and experience with the
  > fabrication/production process
  > * Quick thinker with good presentation skills and
  > making fabrication drawings.
  > * Proficient at using softwares like 3D Max, ACAD,
  > Photoshop, Illustrator, Coreldraw etc and making
  > walkthrus will be an added advantage.
  > *  the position needs excellent english knowledge (
  > spoken and written.)
  >
  > If you are interested in relocating to Dubai ,UAE
  > which is growing at a phenomenal rate, has a
  > cosmopolitan modern and multi cultural outlook and
  > fast becoming the most  important business hub in
  > the middle east, please send your latest CV with
  > portfolio and any links to online works/website to
  > peeyush@.... You can expect a very
  > competitive tax free salary and ticket and 30
  > days/year annual paid leave to home country are some
  > of the few benefits of working in Dubai.
  >
  > ---------------------------------
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  > Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get
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Dear Piyush

I am an architect, graduated from Chandigarh College
of Architecture in 2000, and completed my post grad.
in Industrial Design from NID in 2005.

I am currently working with Quetzel Designs India Pvt.
Ltd.Bangalore
We, at Quetzel, have a manufacturing set up for
furniture and have our own line of furniture as well
as deal with retail projects.
www.quetzel.com

I have gone through the website of the company but I
am keen to know more on the company profile and
infrastructure & set up. So, could you please mail me
about the infrastructure, Design Department set up
and strength of designers in the company.

Regards
Paridhi

--- peeyush aras <peeyusharas@...> wrote:

> having managed clients in over 1000 trade shows
> across the region, Projex is one of the leading
> organizations in the UAE providing exhibition design
> & management services to many of the world’s top
> brand & companies. We are looking for
>
> Exhibition Designer / Architect
>
> * An Architectural degree holder with minimum 4-5
> yrs experience in exhibitions, brand and retail
> interior design.
> * Good multitasker with strong conceptualizing and
> visualizing capabilities
> * Good eye for detail and experience with the
> fabrication/production process
> * Quick thinker with good presentation skills and
> making fabrication drawings.
> * Proficient at using softwares like 3D Max, ACAD,
> Photoshop, Illustrator, Coreldraw etc and making
> walkthrus will be an added advantage.
> *  the position needs excellent english knowledge (
> spoken and written.)
>
> If you are interested in relocating to Dubai ,UAE
> which is growing at a phenomenal rate, has a
> cosmopolitan modern and multi cultural outlook and
> fast becoming the most  important business hub in
> the middle east, please send your latest CV with
> portfolio and any links to online works/website to
> peeyush@.... You can expect a very
> competitive tax free salary and ticket and 30
> days/year annual paid leave to home country are some
> of the few benefits of working in Dubai.
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never Miss an Email
> Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get
> started!
>
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> removed]
>
>




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Thanks Pudi

rgds
Deepthi


On 30/01/07, Pudi Ravi Krishna <pudiravi@...> wrote:
>
>   Hope this helps:
>
> *'Copyright, copyleft and everything in between' (South Africa)
> *You can download the flash based training material here.
> http://www.learningcommons.co.za/downloads.htm#2
>
> thanks
> warm regards
> Pudi
>
> On 29/01/07, deepthi radhakrishnan
<da.seabugs@...<da.seabugs%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Would like to know what are the defining boundaries
> > for copy rights on the following:
> >
> > 1. Stories
> > 2. Character Design
> > 3. Ideas
> > 4. Music
> >
> > Site or book references, advice, inputs are all welcome.
> > Please get back asap.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Deepthi
> > Bangalore
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Hope this helps:

*'Copyright, copyleft and everything in between' (South Africa)
*You can download the flash based training material here.
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thanks
warm regards
Pudi

On 29/01/07, deepthi radhakrishnan <da.seabugs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Would like to know what are the defining boundaries
> for copy rights on the following:
>
> 1. Stories
> 2. Character Design
> 3. Ideas
> 4. Music
>
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having managed clients in over 1000 trade shows across the region, Projex is one
of the leading organizations in the UAE providing exhibition design & management
services to many of the world’s top brand & companies. We are looking for

Exhibition Designer / Architect

* An Architectural degree holder with minimum 4-5 yrs experience in exhibitions,
brand and retail interior design.
* Good multitasker with strong conceptualizing and visualizing capabilities
* Good eye for detail and experience with the fabrication/production process
* Quick thinker with good presentation skills and making fabrication drawings.
* Proficient at using softwares like 3D Max, ACAD, Photoshop, Illustrator,
Coreldraw etc and making walkthrus will be an added advantage.
*  the position needs excellent english knowledge ( spoken and written.)

If you are interested in relocating to Dubai ,UAE which is growing at a
phenomenal rate, has a cosmopolitan modern and multi cultural outlook and fast
becoming the most  important business hub in the middle east, please send your
latest CV with portfolio and any links to online works/website to
peeyush@.... You can expect a very competitive tax free salary and
ticket and 30 days/year annual paid leave to home country are some of the few
benefits of working in Dubai.

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Hi all
   Do you remember the small poems that passed on from one generation of kids to
the other by a word of mouth - be it our siblings, parents, grand parents, or
for that matter our school mates?
   It used to be so much fun to recite them... the ones that were not in the
books anywhere.... even now when we hear a small kid recite them... our face
beams with joy.
   I am documenting such small poems that are not formally documented.
   It would be a great help if you could send some of those poems.
   If you know the creator of the poem or for that matter who taught you or who
recited it for you.... it will make the collection rich.
   Hope to read some poems that make us cherish our childhood memories
   Cheers
   Anushree Agrahari



We live only once but if we live it right once is enough
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Hello everyone,

I am sharing an article I wrote for the Janata Weekly and for the
Radical Humanist Weekly yesterday with you. I hope you all enjoy
reading it.

Thanks


Uday


Who am I?

By: Uday Dandavate



In her article, “Our million Prejudices”, which has appeared in the
Indian Express of January 26th Farah Baria, suggests, “Racism has
always exemplified the dark side of human nature. In fact, the
history of the world is nothing but the history of prejudice: wars
have been fought, empires built and nations forged by the very human
need for superiority and ethnic supremacy.”  Though the provocation
for this article was a recent controversy over the racist treatment
meted out to an Indian member of a British reality show, the article
bypasses an important issue that must be addressed. Though it is true
that prejudices are the symptoms that have grave ramifications for
the future of world peace, to understand the root cause of much of
the prejudice worldwide it is important to understand issues of
identity.



Human beings are a cultural species. Our sense of identity is defined
by our sense of affiliation to a group of people, region, ideas or
ideologies. We differentiate ourselves from other human beings and
from other living species by comparing and contrasting our identities
with those of others. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, the architect of the Indian
constitution once said, “Unlike a drop of water which loses its
identity when it joins the ocean, man does not lose his being in the
society in which he lives. Man's life is independent. He is born not
for the development of the society alone, but for the development of
his self.”



Abraham Maslow, the famous American psychologist who is noted for
proposing hierarchy of human needs and theory of self-actualization
also suggests that issues of identity are intricately linked to an
individual’s sense of who he or she can be. Maslow suggests, “A
musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if
he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. What a man can be, he
must be.”  In his essay, The Farther Reaches of Human Nature, Maslow
also proposed that people who have reached self-actualization, the
highest level in the hierarchy of human needs, will sometimes
experience a state of transcendence, in which they become aware of
not only their own fullest potential, but the fullest potential of
human beings at large. The problem the world faces today is that
people who are fighting cultural wars have been denied the
opportunity to engage in ideas that give them a positive sense of
connection to the future and their role in it. As a result, a very
large population around the world is experiencing a sense of
conflict, despair, prejudice, and discrimination. Terrorism and wars
are only symptoms of this milieu.



I often wonder, “Who am I?” where does my sense of identity come
from? Is it possible to build a society that is free from prejudice
and discrimination? I was fortunate to have been born in a family
that was focused on future; to have grown up with people who fought
the designs of the traditionalists and fundamentalists; to have
chosen the profession of design, which is about change and about
improving the quality of life for ordinary people. I am very
enthusiastic about the fact that connectivity has made information
more accessible to people, and that there is a growing awareness
about citizens’ right to information. I feel very privileged to be
living at a time when I can dare to dream about the future with
optimism.



My sense of identity comes from different levels of connections to
different ideas and entities. I am proud of my native language
Marathi and of the wealth of knowledge and insights about the world I
have gained from Marathi literature. I am proud of my family,
especially their commitment to social reforms. I am proud to be an
Indian, especially at a time when Indians are attracting the
attention of the world with their intellectual and entrepreneurial
contribution. My experience as a researcher of people, cultures and
trends has cultivated in me a sense of being a global citizen and my
connection to humanity. I am very curious about the principles of
nature and feel that the human race needs to respect our
responsibility in preserving the ecological balance. My connection to
the future is greater than my pride in my past. I am inspired more by
ideas than by ideologies. My actions are driven more by a desire for
harmony than by a focus on my destiny. I do believe that the freedom
from prejudice is possible if we educate people about multiple levels
of identities we must live and teach them to feel optimistic about
the future. The world will then be a better place.

Charles F. Kettering, an engineer, a social philosopher and an
inventor said,

“We should all be concerned about the future because we will have to
spend the rest of our lives there.”

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Hi,

Onio is looking for a designer/architect, who is looking beyond the conventional
definitions of 'design'. He/she would be involved in forging new frontiers of
design/trends/strategy thinking at Onio, for the World. A very good flair for
writing (I really mean it) and a knack for 'people watching' is a must. This
activity may require a lot of reading, thinking and still does not go away from
basics of 'design' i.e. visualisation.  For a latest demo of what's cooking in
the international pot of Onio, take a look at www.oniodesign.com/roundtable

Please spread the message..and if interested, write to me with a SOP (statement
of purpose) directly at manoj@...

best regards,

Manoj Kothari
Onio Design Pvt. Ltd., Pune

NID, AEP PD 1997, IIT Bombay B.Tech 1992
ph: 020- 27292173





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Hi All,
Would like to know what are the defining boundaries
for copy rights on the following:

1. Stories
2. Character Design
3. Ideas
4. Music

Site or book references, advice, inputs are all welcome.
Please get back asap.

Regards,
Deepthi
Bangalore


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love you sudhakar nadkarni,
neelam
industree
nid pepeeeee(thought that was funny)
85,86


On Jan 26, 2007, at 6:57 PM, sudhakar nadkarni wrote:

> what happen to rural india ?
>
> Sudhir Sharma <sudhirelephant@...> wrote: Dear All,
>
> I would be presenting a compiled slide show on "Designs for Urban
> India" at "Design with India"- New York (www.designwithindia.com)
>
> Please do mail me four slides of your recent Designs, each slide
> with your name/ your companies name / email id. Send these slides on
> the e amil id sudhirelephant@... only.
>
> Please write "Slides" in subject line.
>
> I am looking forward to meeting Designindia members in US/ Canada in
> New York.
>
> regards
>
> Sudhir Sharma
> 1989 nid
> Elephant
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> Designindia
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Note: This is for people with a background in Interaction design or
Interface design.

We have possibilities for a few student projects here at the HP labs
bangalore. This role would require the candidates to be based out of
Bangalore. Estimated duration of these proejcts ~ 5 months

Looking for the following skill sets in order of importance
1. Interface design
2. Graphic design
3. Usability/ User research
4. Understanding of systems

Please apply only if you have worked on projects that exploit the
above mentioned skill sets. You can mail me your CV along with
examples of work and we can then take it forward.


Regards
Rahul Ajmera

Dear Moderator,

Kindly include Ms Deepti Trivedi in this group.

Deepti has a Post Graduate Diploma in Design (Film & Video) from NID.

Her e-mail address is - ashortstorie@...

Thanks,

Arun Gupta
Senior Faculty, Film & Video
NID

hi, manoj,

thanks for the tips. most that i have got from anyone yet. maybe i should just
read up some but somehow never manage that simple exercise and prefer discussing
with live and current examples.
will get in touch with u soon off the group as well.

i am exploring some options, and all are different from one another. main thing
is to now is to see what is in store in either of these directions and time will
tell whether i succumb/succeed to any. will share the process once i reach my
destination.
maybe it will help someone or maybe it will be an example of what not to do.
eitherway it may help.

regards
deepak pathania
nid 1995
design intervention (I) pvt. ltd.
www.designintervention.biz



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Manoj
   To: designindia@...
   Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:56 AM
   Subject: [designindia] Re: Ray & Keshvan with WPP : Some advice to those
seeking equity funds


   DesignindiaHi Deepak and Vinay and many other fellow entrepreneurs,

   I have seen this thread some time back but could not reply. I think the time
has come when designers running small companies need to let go of the 100% hold
and expand the reach with someone else's money. It is easier said than done. We
at Onio have had several rounds of discussions with 'VCs' and 'Angel Investers'.
In this process I also met and got some guidance from my IIT classmates and
collegues who have played the equity game everal times till now. By the way,
Onio also successfully managed some capital inflow last year through an angel
investment.

   There are thousands of books on how to write a buisness plan and how to judge
a VC's offfer. But I am answering only some top-level inquiries in the minds of
a design entrepreneur. But please remember that like in colour theory, there are
thousand thumb rules....but when you are in the middle of it...and your gut feel
says, it is a 'Go'...then dump all the rules and just go for it...

   Here is my learnings-

   1. How much is your business (services) worth?
   In the DotCom times...people valued their business up to 10 times their total
turnover (there are several parameters in terms of kind of accounts/brands being
handled, age of the business etc...I am only touching upon some thumb rules...).
You can also cut your pie at your 15-20 times your profit. If you are holding
IPRs which would make tomorrow's iPods then it can be 100 times your profit as
well :).

   2.How much should you let go in terms of initial equity?
   Expereinced people advice that lesser the better. Don't let the 'control' go
to a stranger for few bucks. 10%-15% is good enough dilution. Take money from
two people with smaller chunks of money rather than from single entity. But
Investors would never settle for less than 25-30%. Figure of 26% has special
legal angle as, it give 'vito' rights to the investor, against any decision
taken by the board. So you should probably stop at 25%.

   But underline is that all depends on the deal you are getting. If APPLE is
buying you stake and offering you some money for 98% stake for you company,
hmmm..may be that 2% is worth more than 100% of you company all your life :).

   3. How to gauge the investor?
   People say that this is like an arranged marriage. You have a gamble of you
life...but you need to be informed. You need to be informed about the background
of your investor, as much as he needs to be aware about your corporate health.
You need to meet the people at the companies, he/they invested in earlier. You
need to do some 'googling' etc. It is never about how big a company and how
influential a person, is investing in your company, it is more about 'personal
comfort' you have with your investor.

   4. What about Debt funds?
   Yes, if you can garner bank funds, loans etc. for your next leap, please go
ahead. That is the esiest way to save equity dilution for next expansion. We at
Onio also managed a Credit Line, from a PSU bank, which came handy for buying
office etc. It rquired a good gentleman bank-manager and a lots of explaining on
what we do...A credit line of few-lakhs is a first option every entreprenur
should try for...you lose nothing, but you get a support-life-line for liquidity
crunches.

   For more info, write to me personally.

   Manoj Kothari
   Founder Director and Senior Design Strategist
   NID-AEP-PD 1997, B. Tech. IIT Bombay 1992

   www.oniodesign.com

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A wonderful write-up initiating designers to the world of numbers (finiancial
empowerment) the lack of which has been keeping designers away from the board
room and design interventions generally non starters especially in the crafts
sector despite valiant attempts over many years.
   The micro-finiance concept of the Gramin bank for rural areas and the equity
cult in the urban areas could be the empoweing force that actualises design in
our physical reality.
   Intellectually in terms of design philosophy I think we are beginning to
stall.
   May the developing finiancial scenario lift all the boats including that of
design which has been lying beached for a long time.

   Regards,
   Samson Mathai
   PD,NID,1993


Manoj <manoj@...> wrote:
           DesignindiaHi Deepak and Vinay and many other fellow entrepreneurs,

I have seen this thread some time back but could not reply. I think the time has
come when designers running small companies need to let go of the 100% hold and
expand the reach with someone else's money. It is easier said than done. We at
Onio have had several rounds of discussions with 'VCs' and 'Angel Investers'. In
this process I also met and got some guidance from my IIT classmates and
collegues who have played the equity game everal times till now. By the way,
Onio also successfully managed some capital inflow last year through an angel
investment.

There are thousands of books on how to write a buisness plan and how to judge a
VC's offfer. But I am answering only some top-level inquiries in the minds of a
design entrepreneur. But please remember that like in colour theory, there are
thousand thumb rules....but when you are in the middle of it...and your gut feel
says, it is a 'Go'...then dump all the rules and just go for it...

Here is my learnings-

1. How much is your business (services) worth?
In the DotCom times...people valued their business up to 10 times their total
turnover (there are several parameters in terms of kind of accounts/brands being
handled, age of the business etc...I am only touching upon some thumb rules...).
You can also cut your pie at your 15-20 times your profit. If you are holding
IPRs which would make tomorrow's iPods then it can be 100 times your profit as
well :).

2.How much should you let go in terms of initial equity?
Expereinced people advice that lesser the better. Don't let the 'control' go to
a stranger for few bucks. 10%-15% is good enough dilution. Take money from two
people with smaller chunks of money rather than from single entity. But
Investors would never settle for less than 25-30%. Figure of 26% has special
legal angle as, it give 'vito' rights to the investor, against any decision
taken by the board. So you should probably stop at 25%.

But underline is that all depends on the deal you are getting. If APPLE is
buying you stake and offering you some money for 98% stake for you company,
hmmm..may be that 2% is worth more than 100% of you company all your life :).

3. How to gauge the investor?
People say that this is like an arranged marriage. You have a gamble of you
life...but you need to be informed. You need to be informed about the background
of your investor, as much as he needs to be aware about your corporate health.
You need to meet the people at the companies, he/they invested in earlier. You
need to do some 'googling' etc. It is never about how big a company and how
influential a person, is investing in your company, it is more about 'personal
comfort' you have with your investor.

4. What about Debt funds?
Yes, if you can garner bank funds, loans etc. for your next leap, please go
ahead. That is the esiest way to save equity dilution for next expansion. We at
Onio also managed a Credit Line, from a PSU bank, which came handy for buying
office etc. It rquired a good gentleman bank-manager and a lots of explaining on
what we do...A credit line of few-lakhs is a first option every entreprenur
should try for...you lose nothing, but you get a support-life-line for liquidity
crunches.

For more info, write to me personally.

Manoj Kothari
Founder Director and Senior Design Strategist
NID-AEP-PD 1997, B. Tech. IIT Bombay 1992

www.oniodesign.com

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