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1. login as root
2. make sure your floppy is unmounted
3. at the shell prompt type in
#/sbin/mkbootdisk -v `uname -r`
or
#mkbootdisk -v `uname -r`
That should be enough. I dont have a floppy drive now, so couldn't verify.
best of luck!
--- In dgplug@..., soumya chakraborty
<lovesoumya2000@y...> wrote:
> hi,
> all the memebers of dgplug. i want to know that how can we
make a bootable floppy of RED HAT LINUX (preferably 9 or FEDORA) after
installation of RED HAT LINUX. during installation it gives a option
but how can we do it after linux is installed?
> hope my problem will be solved
>
bye
>
soumya
>
> Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.
hi folks,
I just happened to surf in this group and couldnt help but join
instantly! Kudos to Kushal, I really wanted such a group to come up
but never stayed in Dgp long enough to make contacts with you all.
Way to go guys! Keep up the good work. Hope I'll also be able help
you ppl, though my DB on linux is now rusted.
more later.
cheers,
Omkar.
News and Trends .,Saturday January 29, 2005 (08:00 AM GMT)., By:
Joe Barr
Commentary:
There are a lot of good reasons to like the
GPL: the GNU Public License. For one thing, it's a David and Goliath
kind of thing.
It's the little guy standing up to the
corporate behemoths that run rough-shod over our daily lives by virtue
of their influence, legal and otherwise, on government.
For another, it's virtuous. It's a Medicare
Bill which actually provides more and better health care for the
elderly rather than simply pouring public funds directly into the
greedy, gaping gaws of the pharmaceutical industry. It's also
territorial. It's "Don't Tread on Me" applied to software.
The GPL provides a legal framework for an
ever improving, ever free, software infrastructure. In addition, it's
what Linus chose for Linux in order that those who follow can have
access to his creation.
But what I love about the GPL is the
same thing that Microsoft and other corporate predators hate about it:
it works.
What does it protect?
As explained on the GNU/FSF website, the
definition of "free software" encompasses four separate freedoms. None
of these freedoms have to do with the price of beer. The four freedoms
are:
The freedom to run the program, for any
purpose (freedom 0).
The freedom to study how the program works,
and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a
precondition for this.
The freedom to redistribute copies so you
can help your neighbor (freedom 2).
The freedom to improve the program, and
release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community
benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for
this.
Fine. You may be thinking, "I can do that
already with software that's in the public domain, or covered by other
open source licenses, like the BSD-style license." You're right, you
can. But software in the public domain, and software covered by a
BSD-style license, is not afforded any protection whatsoever to ensure
those same freedoms exist for the next user, or the next, or the one
after her.
How does it work?
The GPL makes those freedoms self-perpetuating
by requiring that anyone who obtains and redistributes GPLd software to
release it under the same terms. This is sometimes referred to in a
pejorative sense as its "viral nature." Call it what you will, this
feature is what provides the protection for the four freedoms. This is
what provides Linus -- and thousands of other free software authors --
the protection they want for their software.
Microsoft, for example, took the BSD-licensed
TCP/IP stack from the public and swallowed it up in its proprietary
product line. Then sold back to the public what it had taken from them.
Legally, of course. The BSD-style license offers no protection against
that sort of thing.
They've done the same thing with Kerberos,
except worse. They made their version of Kerberos work fully only with
their servers. Public pressure forced them to provide documentation for
their closed-fisted proprietary pirated version, but they attached a
restrictive license to the documentation which made it impossible for
it to be used in free software.
Once again, it was piracy of public software.
Stolen in order to increase Bill Gates' personal fortune. But it was
legal theft. The MIT license covering Kerberos provided no protection
against that sort of thing.
I love the GPL because it protects Linux and
other great software from falling into the clutches of the real
software pirates.
How well does it work?
The Linux kernel is the poster-boy for GPLd
software. It's become the little OS who could, the bumblebee who could
fly, the impossible notion that a bunch of kids on the Internet could
create the most successful operating system in history come true. All
of that has happened at least partly because of the GPL.
Linux thrives for several reasons, but chief
among them them is its community of developers, a community unrivaled
by any other platform. Are they drawn to Linux by a charismatic leader?
Some, no doubt. To my way of thinking, Linus Torvalds' greatest genius
is not in code, but in creating an environment where many gifted coders
can work together for the common good. But don't forget, in his heart
of hearts, Torvalds is a geek: a sub-species not noted for being warm
and fuzzy people-persons.
Could it be the license? For many, yes. The GPL
is often described as idealistic and altruistic. If the kernel
developers were interested only in the code, wouldn't the BSDs be the
ones with the huge development corps instead of Linux? That's what
we're told all the time by the BSD-bigots, it's better technically.
But they are not just interested in the code.
The GPL adds a magic glue to the Linux community, the good feeling that
comes from doing good for others, and knowing that it will continue to
do that good for as long as it is used. If you don't know what I'm
talking about, then you are probably never going to "get it" as far as
the GPL, or Linux, is concerned.
The GPL covers a whole lot more than just the
Linux kernel. Check the statistics. Freshmeat.net lists almost 36,000
projects covered by more than 50 different licenses. The page showing percentage covered by
specific license reveals over 68% of those projects are licensed by
the GPL. What's in second place? The GPL's sibling license, the GNU
Lesser GPL, with nearly a 6% share. Coming in third, with 3.57%, is the
original BSD license. The GPL is not just the most popular open source
or free software license, it is overwhelmingly the people's choice.
Why the lies about the GPL?
Gates and Ballmer attack the GPL at every
opportunity. It's not unusual to hear them break out in that old
familiar fascist soft-shoe routine and refer to it or Linux as
communistic. Hey, who can blame those two bozos. They stumbled blindly
into a pot of gold when they were given a monopoly on what turned out
to be -- largely no thanks to them -- the hottest technology of the
century. Now their lives are dedicated to protecting that monopoly from
all comers.
They've done pretty well at that, too.
Sometimes they've won anti-trust battles in court, sometimes they've
won them in back room deals with secretive administrations. But several
superior technical solutions have come and gone -- DR DOS and OS/2, for
example -- without making much of a dent in the Microsoft monopoly.
But Linux is immune to most of the
kneecap-busting, air-supply cutting, baby-knifing techniques that
Microsoft is so fond of. Linux is not a company or an individual that
can be bought. It's a community made up largely of folks who find the
Microsoft mindset disgusting. Geeks like things that work, and despise
the hollow-men who make hollow claims about performance, security,
robustness, and availability. And -- unlike the TCP/IP stack and
Kerberos -- it's protected by the GPL.
You know those bogus and misleading ads that
Microsoft calls its "Get the facts" campaign, and loves to run here and
on other popular Linux sites? That's not only what Microsoft does best,
it's about the best it can do in its campaign against Linux. And
judging from the feedback reactions I've seen to them in comments, they
aren't winning any converts for them.
Stallman as a substitute target
The GPL is a license for software. Words.
Statements. Clauses. A legal document. Richard Stallman is a man.
Brilliant, opinionated, and uncompromising. Many attacks on the GPL are
made indirectly, by going after Richard Stallman, for no other reason
than he is vulnerable to them, while the license itself is not.
If you don't disassociate the two, then the GPL
is going to rise and fall in your estimation based on how you're well
getting along with Stallman at the moment. Remember, we're talking
about a man who can polarize a room into warring factions just by
walking by. I admire Stallman greatly, but I don't always agree with
him. It's perfectly OK to like the GPL and to dislike Stallman. They
are two different things.
The bottom line
The reason I love the GPL is because it has
made one of the richest men in the world -- some would say that makes
him one of the most powerful men in the world -- impotent against the
surging growth of Linux and its user base.
And because Linux and other free software
exists, I have been able to free myself from the noxious terms and
conditions imposed by the monopoly on their customers. Changing their
licensing terms on the fly, for example. And doing so in ways which
forces meek compliance, since failure to accept them means you don't
get the latest service pack, which contains fixes for dozens of gaping
security holes, which are known and constantly probed for every minute
of every day.
The monopoly hates the escape route the GPL
provides me. That's why they constantly attack it. Those attacks will
undoubtably continue. Some will be legal challenges, some will merely
be insane. Sometimes the hand of Microsoft will be obvious -- as in its
financial backing and support of SCO -- sometimes not. But it doesn't
matter. The GPL is winning. And for that I love it all the more.
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Thursday, January 27, 2005
Jailed for using a nonstandard browser
A Londonder made a tsnuami-relief donation using lynx -- a text-based
browser used by the blind, Unix-users and others -- on Sun's Solaris
operating system. The site-operator decided that this "unusual" event
in the system log indicated a hack-attempt, and the police broke down
the donor's door and arrested him.
From a mailing list:
For donating to a Tsunami appeal using Lynx on Solaris 10. BT
[British Telecom] who run the donation management system misread an
access log and saw hmm that's a non standard browser not identifying
it's type and it's doing strange things. Trace that IP. Arrest that
hacker.
Armed police, a van, a police cell and national news later the
police have gone in SWAT style and arrested someone having their
lunch.
Out on bail till next week and preparing to make a lot of very
bad PR for BT and the Police....
Link (Thanks, Patrick! )
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4195339.stm
Update: : The source that told me about this has corroborated it with
more detail in private email, but is leery of going public. I hope
that more publicly available details appear soon, and will post them
when I have them.
So just goes to show if you use anything other than Firefox or IE
and you rely on someone else to interogate access logs or IDS logs
you too could be sitting in a paper suit in a cell :(
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all the memebers of dgplug. i want to know that how can we make a bootable floppy of RED HAT LINUX (preferably 9 or FEDORA) after installation of RED HAT LINUX. during installation it gives a option but how can we do it after linux is installed?
The LinuxIndia.org web site is
trying to develop a compreshensive list of g/LUGs in India. Please do
spend a moment updating information there. You might like to write to
the admin for adding content.
Oh...
That is fine..
But i have installed Fedora Core 1 and to compile
the java file the javac command doesn't work but i use
the
gcj --main=<Classname> <Filename>.java
So, is it possible that the direct compilation of
java file by using javac not available in Fedora Core
1?
Bye..
--- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think you are unaware that JAVA is platfrom
> independent . So what u can do in windows , u can
> also do that in any other platform. Attaching both
> the java file & a screenshot of it in Fedora Core 3.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kushal
> sandeepan kumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> My dear friend , what u have told is the concept
> of
> Windows based java but it wont work in Linux.
>
> And for ur kind info , i have already used that
> header with the filename.class.
> But have u seen the .class file in Linux
> plateform....?
>
> This happens only in Windows....
> --- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote:
> > Write these lines first in your java file.
> > " /* <applet code="file.class" width=200
> height=300>
> > </applet>
> > */
> > "
> > except the quotes, and exchange the file.class
> with
> > your class file (the one u have complied).
> >
> > Happy hacking!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > sandeepan kumar <sandeepankumar@...>
> wrote:
> > Hi ,
> >
> > You have talked about the proper header. What is
> > that?
> >
> > The .java file that extends JApplet class and
> import
> > all the necessary libraries has been already
> > imported
> > in this file..
> >
> > Also the same file is compiled but to view the
> > applet
> > window ,,,as we need the command
> >
> > appletviewer filename.java (in Windows/DOS)
> >
> > does not work here in Linux..
> >
> > So, i want to know that command only....
> >
> > Bye..
> >
> > --- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote:
> > > Do u write proper header on the .java file?
> > >
> > > sandeepankumar <sandeepankumar@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anybody tell me that what is the command to
> > run
> > > the applet on
> > > Linux after compilation of .java file .
> > >
> > > The commanad appletviewer <filename>.java
> doesn't
> > > work here i've
> > > tried it..
> > >
> > > Bye...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
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> > >
> > >
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> >
>
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hi, I'm interested in helping in spreading the use of Linux but we should be informed before hand what has to be done. This effort should bring colors. It seems that the whole world has suddenly gained all the momentum to make Bill Gates cry for his money.-sanchari
Linux Durgapur <dgplug@...> wrote:
Hi,
We are going to demonstrate various aspects of linux in the coming DURGAPUR TRADE & SCIENCE FAIR (12th Feb - 14thFeb). We will also demonstrate Ankur Bangla out there.
We need all of your opinions about the design of banners & the way we should approach there in the stall.
I think you are unaware that JAVA is platfrom independent . So what u can do in windows , u can also do that in any other platform. Attaching both the java file & a screenshot of it in Fedora Core 3.
My dear friend , what u have told is the concept of Windows based java but it wont work in Linux.
And for ur kind info , i have already used that header with the filename.class. But have u seen the .class file in Linux plateform....?
This happens only in Windows.... --- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote: > Write these lines first in your java file. > " /* <applet code="file.class" width=200 height=300> > </applet> > */ > " > except the quotes, and exchange the file.class with > your class file (the one u have complied). > > Happy hacking!!!! > > > > > > sandeepan kumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote: > Hi , > > You have
talked about the proper header. What is > that? > > The .java file that extends JApplet class and import > all the necessary libraries has been already > imported > in this file.. > > Also the same file is compiled but to view the > applet > window ,,,as we need the command > > appletviewer filename.java (in Windows/DOS) > > does not work here in Linux.. > > So, i want to know that command only.... > > Bye.. > > --- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote: > > Do u write proper header on the .java file? > > > > sandeepankumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote: > > > > Can anybody tell me that what is the command to > run > > the applet on > > Linux after compilation of .java file . > > > > The commanad appletviewer <filename>.java
doesn't > > work here i've > > tried it.. > > > > Bye... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/dgplug/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: > > dgplug-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life > partneronline. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! India
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dear linux users
if i can be of some help then i can say about a few
things on how to use linux and other free software
(which are given in unix like operating systems) such
as lex & yacc for building any compiler or translator.
if u need any other help i will be happy to provide
it.
--- Linux Durgapur <dgplug@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Yesterday the regular meeting was held. The agenda
> was “How to reach to the local schools?”
>
> First our meeting coordinator, Koushik Muhuri
> introduced our group to the newcomers. Then Soumya
> Ganguly & myself gave a demonstration about
> installing JAVA in linux boxes.
>
> As the meeting progressed , we entered into the main
> section of the agenda. Other group members gave
> their opinion about the way of computer teaching in
> the local schools. Mr. Indranil Sen, the respected
> system annalist of Dr. B. C. Roy Engg. College gave
> his valuable opinion about this as because he is
> well connected with the local institutions. He
> asked us to meet the head of computer dept &
> headmasters of the local schools and try to clear
> their false notions about linux. We also created
> list about diff. softwares used by those schools.
>
> C,C++
> JAVA
> GWBASIC
> ORACLE(RDBMS)
> OFFICE SUITE
>
> We can show them all these needs can easily be
> fulfilled by LINUX. We were also asked to write a
> introductory letter .(We need some advise on this).
>
> At the end, the members were notified about Mr.
> Abhas Abhinav’s letter. We are very thankful to him
> as he has extended his hand of guide and share of
> help to us.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kushal Das,
>
> Coordinator,
>
> dgplug
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life
partneronline.
=====
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hi, I'm interested in helping in spreading the use of Linux but we should be informed before hand what has to be done. This effort should bring colors. It seems that the whole world has suddenly gained all the momentum to make Bill Gates cry for his money.-sanchari
Linux Durgapur <dgplug@...> wrote:
Hi,
We are going to demonstrate various aspects of linux in the coming DURGAPUR TRADE & SCIENCE FAIR (12th Feb - 14thFeb). We will also demonstrate Ankur Bangla out there.
We need all of your opinions about the design of banners & the way we should approach there in the stall.
hi, I'm interested in helping in spreading the use of Linux but we should be informed before hand what has to be done. This effort should bring colors. It seems that the whole world has suddenly gained all the momentum to make Bill Gates cry for his money.-sanchari
Linux Durgapur <dgplug@...> wrote:
Hi,
We are going to demonstrate various aspects of linux in the coming DURGAPUR TRADE & SCIENCE FAIR (12th Feb - 14thFeb). We will also demonstrate Ankur Bangla out there.
We need all of your opinions about the design of banners & the way we should approach there in the stall.
Hi
My dear friend , what u have told is the concept of
Windows based java but it wont work in Linux.
And for ur kind info , i have already used that
header with the filename.class.
But have u seen the .class file in Linux
plateform....?
This happens only in Windows....
--- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote:
> Write these lines first in your java file.
> " /* <applet code="file.class" width=200 height=300>
> </applet>
> */
> "
> except the quotes, and exchange the file.class with
> your class file (the one u have complied).
>
> Happy hacking!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> sandeepan kumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> You have talked about the proper header. What is
> that?
>
> The .java file that extends JApplet class and import
> all the necessary libraries has been already
> imported
> in this file..
>
> Also the same file is compiled but to view the
> applet
> window ,,,as we need the command
>
> appletviewer filename.java (in Windows/DOS)
>
> does not work here in Linux..
>
> So, i want to know that command only....
>
> Bye..
>
> --- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote:
> > Do u write proper header on the .java file?
> >
> > sandeepankumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote:
> >
> > Can anybody tell me that what is the command to
> run
> > the applet on
> > Linux after compilation of .java file .
> >
> > The commanad appletviewer <filename>.java doesn't
> > work here i've
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We are going to demonstrate various aspects of linux in the coming DURGAPUR TRADE & SCIENCE FAIR (12th Feb - 14thFeb). We will also demonstrate Ankur Bangla out there.
We need all of your opinions about the design of banners & the way we should approach there in the stall.
Linux Durgapur wrote:
> As the meeting progressed , we entered into the main section of the
> agenda. Other group members gave their opinion about the way of computer
> teaching in the local schools. Mr. Indranil Sen, the respected system
> annalist of Dr. B. C. Roy Engg. College gave his valuable opinion about
> this as because he is well connected with the local institutions. He
> asked us to meet the head of computer dept & headmasters of the local
> schools and try to clear their false notions about linux. We also
> created list about diff. softwares used by those schools.
This is indeed a good start. Sometime back, when iLUG-Cal was initially
looking at the aspect of introducing GNU/Linux in schools, we faced 2
immediate problems:
[1] Mapping the current syllabus to a GNU/Linux toolsuite
[2] Putting across the relevance of using FOSS tools to teach students
In the recent scenario, [1] has by far being very ably addressed by both
ICSE and CBSE. [2] is something that is visible.
However, a lot of handholding is required in order to present a case for
GNU/Linux. Most importantly, the students are in the classrooms to
*learn* how to get their projects and assignments completed through
FOSS, not begin to learn FOSS itself. That comes with the process of
learning. One way could be to slowly put in the FOSS tools and then have
workshops on FOSS philosophy etc. Thereon, guiding them towards reading
the relevant TLDP documents, RFCs will make them self sufficient. Most
importantly asking them to share their knowledge.
Teachers and faculty members being the power users have more
responsibility of becoming the mentors.
Looking forward to positive results from this initiative.
Regards
Sankarshan
Yesterday the regular meeting was held. The agenda was “How to reach to the local schools?”
First our meeting coordinator, Koushik Muhuri introduced our group to the newcomers. Then Soumya Ganguly & myself gave a demonstration about installing JAVA in linux boxes.
As the meeting progressed , we entered into the main section of the agenda. Other group members gave their opinion about the way of computer teaching in the local schools. Mr. Indranil Sen, the respected system annalist of Dr. B. C. Roy Engg. College gave his valuable opinion about this as because he is well connected with the local institutions. He asked us to meet the head of computer dept & headmasters of the local schools and try to clear their false notions about linux. We also created list about diff. softwares used by those schools.
C,C++
JAVA
GWBASIC
ORACLE(RDBMS)
OFFICE SUITE
We can show them all these needs can easily be fulfilled by LINUX.We were also asked to write a introductory letter .(We need some advise on this).
At the end, the members were notified about Mr. Abhas Abhinav’s letter. We are very thankful to him as he has extended his hand of guide and share of help to us.
except the quotes, and exchange the file.class with your class file (the one u have complied).
Happy hacking!!!!
sandeepan kumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote:
Hi ,
You have talked about the proper header. What is that?
The .java file that extends JApplet class and import all the necessary libraries has been already imported in this file..
Also the same file is compiled but to view the applet window ,,,as we need the command
appletviewer filename.java (in Windows/DOS)
does not work here in Linux..
So, i want to know that command only....
Bye..
--- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote: > Do u write proper header on the .java file? > > sandeepankumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote: > > Can anybody tell me that what is the command to run > the applet on > Linux after compilation of .java file . > > The commanad appletviewer <filename>.java doesn't > work here i've >
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Hi ,
You have talked about the proper header. What is
that?
The .java file that extends JApplet class and import
all the necessary libraries has been already imported
in this file..
Also the same file is compiled but to view the applet
window ,,,as we need the command
appletviewer filename.java (in Windows/DOS)
does not work here in Linux..
So, i want to know that command only....
Bye..
--- Kushal Das <programmerkd@...> wrote:
> Do u write proper header on the .java file?
>
> sandeepankumar <sandeepankumar@...> wrote:
>
> Can anybody tell me that what is the command to run
> the applet on
> Linux after compilation of .java file .
>
> The commanad appletviewer <filename>.java doesn't
> work here i've
> tried it..
>
> Bye...
>
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Dear Friends at Durgapur LUG!
Good Morning!
I had a chance you meet Kushal at a recent event at NIT Durgapur (of
which I'm an alumni) and got to know about the wonderful work that all
of you are trying to do in Durgapur!
I just wanted to wish you the best in this endeavour! At the same time,
I would like to see if there are any ways in which we can help you out.
So - if each of you can write a small note on what sort of resources and
oppurtunities you are looking at and how, you think, we can work on this
goal of "Sekho ebang Sekhao" together, I would be personally glad to
extend all the help and patronage that I could!
Cheers, and all the best,
Abhas.
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*Commentary "As an entrepreneur many times over, he hopes he's really
getting it right this time." So states half of Mitch Kapor's terse
biography on the Open Source Applications Foundation staff page.*
It's an odd statement, considering that Kapor got it so spectacularly
right the first time. In 1982, he co-founded Lotus Development, later
acquired by IBM, and co-wrote the Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet application
commonly credited with spurring the personal computer's conquest of the
business world.
Although his latest effort is unfolding in comparative obscurity, many
in the open-source world are hoping, along with Kapor, that he gets this
one right and that the results once again rearrange the dynamics of the
computer industry.
Having made his fortune during the heyday of proprietary software, the
54-year-old Kapor finds himself at the forefront of two foundations
devoted to open-source software development. He is both president and
chair of the OSAF and chairman of the Mozilla Foundation, the group
founded by Netscape Communications to develop its browser and later spun
off by Netscape acquirer AOL Time Warner.
The goal of the foundations isn't to create a new killer app but rather
to use the open-source development model to dislodge Microsoft's
Web-browsing and e-mail software titles from their dominant market
positions.
Kapor spoke to CNET News.com about his open-source and charity
foundations, what it will take to challenge Microsoft and the movement
behind Mozilla.
*Q: Let's start with the basics: Why open source?*
A: Open source is important to different groups of people for different
reasons. For consumers, it's one thing; for developers, it's another.
But basically, it's an entirely different way of organising the
large-scale economic activity of creating and distributing software
(and) has many advantages. It's not a cure-all.
I think that for people who use software, in the long run, open-source
products are going to be less expensive and of higher quality. Also,
open-source products put more control into the hands of people and
organisations that use the software, which is a good thing.
*What did your experience at Lotus contribute to your philosophy today?*
One of the big events that changed open source a lot took place after I
left Lotus in the late 1980s. That's when Linux started and, in
particular, that's when other licensing models besides the pure GPL
(General Public License) started to be more widely used. Open-source
products started to move into the larger world of business software. And
that wasn't even on the horizon when I was at Lotus.
By the time it got to the very late '90s, it was clear that it had
become difficult to innovate successfully using the proprietary model if
you wanted to develop everyday applications that anyone with a personal
computer would use: e-mail, spreadsheets, word processors. (Open source)
became an end-run around the stagnation that I saw going on. It was very
frustrating for lots of people in that the existing products that were
out there simply weren't up to the task of handling their e-mail and
keeping their lives organised.
*Is that still the case?*
It is. The great thing that's happened of late is to see the early, huge
momentum of Firefox, attracting millions of users and beginning to grow
its market share appreciably. That represents proof that a well-done,
well-wrought open-source product can have global impact as an
application -- and I consider a Web browser to be one of those everyday
products.
*Is Firefox ultimately going to fizzle?*
Nobody knows what's going to happen. It's certainly not inevitable that
Firefox's market share will continue to increase. I think open-source
advocates would do well to be relatively cautious and avoid making
claims and predictions.
On the other hand, there are some fundamentals that favour Firefox. It's
a great product, small, fast and more secure. You don't see anybody
disputing that. The next question is how much mileage there is to get
out of it, ultimately. Certainly, it has already caused Microsoft to
improve IE.
*Why is that? Why should it take something like Firefox to improve IE? *
Microsoft does not respond and improve products otherwise. The Mozilla
Foundation does not have financial goals, so it can take credit for
whatever improvements happen in the browser, whether they're in Firefox
or not. By the standards of the project itself, to the extent that the
net result is that IE's fundamental security problems get addressed,
that, too, is a victory. As for the analysts who look at this, I doubt
that's their criteria for success.
The other thing is that enterprises are not, in many cases, very
satisfied with a single Microsoft alternative. This is a known and
longstanding problem. They have been held back by a lack of alternatives
that are comparable and satisfying in all the ways important to
enterprises.
With Firefox, which begins to pass the threshold for enterprise
acceptance, the question is, How will they respond? It's not a question
of the economics of it, but will it help them to manage their computing
infrastructure better? As for whether Firefox is overhyped, we'll have
to see how this plays out.
*What exactly is your role at the Mozilla Foundation?*
I am the board chair. It's like being on the board of any for-profit or
nonprofit -- I'm not at all involved in day-to-day operations but rather
with overall governance and consulting on strategic directions. So I
meet regularly with (Mozilla Foundation president) Mitchell Baker.
*I've been covering Mozilla almost since the beginning, I've spoken with
Mitchell Baker many times, and I've still never gotten a good sense of
her. *
I have to say that I have often found that people underestimate her. I
know that when the project was inside Netscape/AOL, she did not receive
the regard from the AOL executives that I thought was really due to her.
Mozilla is a really interesting and complex project and organisation.
I think it was like the Harry Potter of open source. You know how all
the movies open with him living with his aunt and uncle, who give him no
respect and lock him up? People had written off Mozilla on multiple
occasions. I felt like and continue to feel like she does a remarkable
job in a low-key way in shepherding that project through unique and
difficult circumstances. I think the renaissance with Firefox and
Thunderbird -- without her this would not have happened.
I respect her leadership, which is very low-key and not charismatic --
the opposite of the Larry Ellison style. She has been effective in the
face of real challenges. I got involved at the point when we extracted
it from AOL.
*How did that come about, anyway?*
There was a recognition that it didn't make sense for that project to be
inside AOL, but it was sort of stuck in the birth canal. It turned out
that I was able to act as an intermediary or midwife because I know
Mitchell, who has worked at the Open Source Applications Foundation, and
I also know the vice chairman of AOL, Ted Leonsis, who, at the time, was
running the AOL service. And he was one of the top handful of executives
at the whole thing.
I ran into him at a conference, and we got to talking, and I was able to
make this thing happen. And we brokered an arrangement to spin Mozilla
out into its own non-profit. So that was a year and a half ago.
*You also have two of your own foundations. *
Oh, at least. I'm almost entirely working on the non-profit side.
There's the Open Source Applications Foundation and the Mitchell Kapor
Foundation. Then there's also the Level Playing Field Institute.
*Let me ask you about what's going on at the Open Source Applications
Foundation. What are you doing with Chandler?*
Chandler is a personal information manager whose principle functions are
e-mail and calendar. It also has some contact, address and task management.
One of the goals for Chandler all along has been to start with more of a
clean sheet of paper in how we design the application. The other
alternative is to do something more conventional that looks and works
more or less like Outlook. There's nothing wrong with that, but as I was
saying before, one of the goals is to see if we could innovate to
improve the user experience in fundamental ways. We will either fail or
succeed in how well we do with that goal.
*Apart from writing this thing from the ground up, what are your larger
strategic goals for Chandler?*
In the same way that Firefox has established itself as very viable
open-source browser alternative, one strategic goal would be to
establish another alternative in another important software applications
category -- a viable open-source alternative that has the potential, as
it matures, to reach ultimately millions of people and a developer
community of thousands. Those are goals which we will get to in several
stages, not all at once.
*In terms of the e-mail and the calendar components, Chandler sounds a
lot like what Mozilla is already doing with Thunderbird and Sunbird.
Aren't your open-source foundations stepping on each other's toes? *
It's absolutely in the same category as Thunderbird. Sunbird is an
existing community calendar, which is basic and not complete or robust.
They're using that as a base, adding a lot of things to it and
integrating that with Thunderbird.
The aspiration level of Sunbird, by everyone's account, is significantly
more modest and different than what we're trying to do in Chandler.
We're trying to provide a well-engineered, well-designed but vanilla
IMAP client and some vanilla calendaring. But when I was talking about
overcoming information silos and better integration between the
different kinds of data that a PIM manages -- that's a Chandler
aspiration. In Outlook, your data is in separate silos when often you'd
like to see things much better connected.
*The Mitchell Kapor Foundation and the Level Playing Field Initiative
are both concerned with social, environmental and educational issues.
When it comes to those issues, how would you rate the high-tech industry
as a whole?*
It's pretty mixed. It's difficult and dangerous to make enormous
generalisations. You'll find a number of progressive corporations that
stand up for social responsibility, and tech companies are not like
mining or these extractive industries that are wreaking enormous
environmental damage.
At the same time, I'd say there's still a kind of Silicon Valley
attitude that doesn't take its corporate responsibilities seriously.
They say, "We help people get rich, and they should decide in their
private lives what kind of philanthropy to support." That's irresponsible.
If you're running a business, you have employees, and that comes with
very basic responsibilities to be a good citizen. That's not a
mainstream attitude in the technology industry.
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