TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

Sorry for any crosspostings and if this is irrelevant
to you. Would appreciate it if you could forward it to
others. Thank you very much.

Amlir Ayat
Chairman, National Technical Committee
World Water Day Seminar 2004


THE RESCHEDULING OF WORLD WATER DAY SEMINAR 2004
=====================================

PLEASE TAKE NOTE:

Due to the national election, the World Water Day
Seminar has been rescheduled to MAY 10 - 11, 2004.

The venue remains the same i.e. Promenade Hotel, Kota
Kinabalu, Sabah.


PARTICIPATION AND FEE
================

Participation is open to engineers, researchers, and
publics concerned with water-related disciplines and
the public.

The fee is as follows:

MANCID member RM 300
Non Member RM 350

This conference fee is non-refundable and does not
include accommodation.  However, replacement is
allowed.

The fee is waived for paper presenters.


ACCOMMODATION
============

Following are the room rates for Pomenade:

The room rates are as follow:

Single occupancy : RM165 per room per day (one person)
Double occupancy : RM240 per room per day (two
persons)


REGISTRATION
==========

Please contact the Secretariat to register and confirm
your participation by Friday, April 16, 2004.


SECRETARIAT
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The Secretariat's address is as follows:

MANCID Secretariat
World Water Day 2004
Department of Irrigation and Drainage
Jalan Sultan Salahuddin
50626 Kuala Lumpur

Tel: 0326175709 (Wan Marhafidz), 0326175778 (Azli),
0326175774 (Shahrir), Hazri (0326175758), or
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Email: wmhafidz@..., azli@...,
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Please contact the Secretariat should there be any
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Thank you.

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Dear Behzad,

Although the evaporating surfaces are different than in your case,
perhaps you should also look at the following references for a
complemetary view on the most appropriate (and cheap) method for
estimating actual evapotranspiration according to your local
conditions.

Sumner, D.M. (1996). “Evapotranspiration from Successional Vegetation
in a Deforested Area of Lake Wales, Florida.” Water-Resources
Investigations Report (96-4244), U. S. Geological Survey, Florida, USA.

Wilson, K.B., Hanson, P.J., Mulholland, P.J., Baldocchi, D.D., and
Wullschlenger, S.D. (2001). “A comparison of methods for determining
forest evapotranspiration and its components: sap-flow, soil water
budget, eddy covariance and catchment water balance.” Agricultural and
Forest Meteorology, Amsterdam, 106, 153-168.

Best of luck with your research.

Raul Vazquez

PS: Be aware of an study involving the estimation of ETact for bare
soil: "Comparison of measured and FAO-56 Modeled Evaporation" by
Mutziger et al. available in the website www.itrc.org.

--
Raul Vazquez Z, Ph.D. MSc. Eng.
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
Department of Civil Engineering - Hydraulics Laboratory
Kasteelpark Arenberg 40
B-3001 Leuven (Belgium)
Tel.: +32 16 32 16 63 - 32 16 56
Fax:  +32 16 32 19 89
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Quoting Jenny Blight <jennyb@...>:

> Dear Behzad
>
> The paper which most comprehensively describes the Wits work on
> Energy
> Balance is:
>
> "Measuring evaporation from Soil surfaces for environmental and
> geotechnical
> purposes" by GE Blight,
> published in Water SA, Vol 28, No 4, October 2002
>
> Available on website: www.wrc.org.za
>
>
> Jenny
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: behzad fatahi [mailto:behzad@...]
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:47 AM
> To: hydrologymodel@...
> Subject: Re: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements
>
>
> Dear Jenny,
> Would you please introduce or send me the best papers or articles
> which
> describe evapotranspiration(ET) rate using energy balance method in
> detail?
> Also, I am looking for information which describe one case study of
> using
> energy balance method to calculate ET (detailed formulation and
> calculation). Can you help me in this matter?
> Regards,
> Behzad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jenny Blight
>   To: hydrologymodel@...
>   Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:19 PM
>   Subject: RE: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements
>
>
>
>   At Wits University we have measured ET using Energy Balance, and
> neglecting
>   the trivial components.
>   We simply measure net radiation with an inexpensive hand held
> radiometer,
>   and air temperature at
>   intervals throughout the day. We have checked results against using
> the
>   "full Monty" Bowen Ratio
>   method. Will get exact references for you if you like.
>
>   Jenny Blight
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Emad Habib [mailto:habib@...]
>   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:17 PM
>   To: hydrologymodel@...
>   Subject: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements
>
>
>   I am looking for an inexpensive technology to measure
> evapotranspiration
> in
>   southern louisiana, USA. We have an access to evaporation pan but
> that
> gives
>   the potential evaporation only. I considered a device called eddy
>   correlation that actually measures the actual ET but it is too
> expensive.
>   Any information in this regard is appreciated.
>
>   Thank You
>
>   Emad
>
>
>
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Dear Rao,
I know one group in IIT Civil Engineering Dept. IIT-D
are working on SWAT model. You may cotact Prof. Gosian
or Dr. Sandhya Rao. They will be in better position to
provide you sloution. They have worked in undualting
terrain of Chotanagpur area of jharkhand.
bye
ashok
--- prabhakar rao <prabhakar@...> wrote:
> Dear Alll
>
> I will be thankfull to all if any one can tell me
> regarding any literature available which talks of
> acceptable limits of accuracy in hydrologic modeling
> of surface runoff in a river basin of area more then
> 3000 km^2 using semi-distributed model with out GIS
> such as SWAT.
>
> Thanks in advance
> prabhakar
> Senior Engineer
> Hydrology
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
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Dear Alll

I will be thankfull to all if any one can tell me regarding any literature
available which talks of acceptable limits of accuracy in hydrologic modeling of
surface runoff in a river basin of area more then 3000 km^2 using
semi-distributed model with out GIS such as SWAT.

Thanks in advance
prabhakar
Senior Engineer
Hydrology


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Behzad

The paper which most comprehensively describes the Wits work on Energy
Balance is:

"Measuring evaporation from Soil surfaces for environmental and geotechnical
purposes" by GE Blight,
published in Water SA, Vol 28, No 4, October 2002

Available on website: www.wrc.org.za


Jenny




-----Original Message-----
From: behzad fatahi [mailto:behzad@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:47 AM
To: hydrologymodel@...
Subject: Re: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements


Dear Jenny,
Would you please introduce or send me the best papers or articles which
describe evapotranspiration(ET) rate using energy balance method in detail?
Also, I am looking for information which describe one case study of using
energy balance method to calculate ET (detailed formulation and
calculation). Can you help me in this matter?
Regards,
Behzad

----- Original Message -----
   From: Jenny Blight
   To: hydrologymodel@...
   Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:19 PM
   Subject: RE: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements



   At Wits University we have measured ET using Energy Balance, and
neglecting
   the trivial components.
   We simply measure net radiation with an inexpensive hand held radiometer,
   and air temperature at
   intervals throughout the day. We have checked results against using the
   "full Monty" Bowen Ratio
   method. Will get exact references for you if you like.

   Jenny Blight



   -----Original Message-----
   From: Emad Habib [mailto:habib@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:17 PM
   To: hydrologymodel@...
   Subject: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements


   I am looking for an inexpensive technology to measure evapotranspiration
in
   southern louisiana, USA. We have an access to evaporation pan but that
gives
   the potential evaporation only. I considered a device called eddy
   correlation that actually measures the actual ET but it is too expensive.
   Any information in this regard is appreciated.

   Thank You

   Emad



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Dear Members,

An announcement of a National Seminar on
"FOREST, WATER and PEOPLE, FORWAP-2004" to be
held during 29-30 July, 2004 at Belgaum,
Karnataka (India) is placed below.

Regards
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National Institute of Hydrology
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Dear Sir,

Hard Rock Regional Centre of National Institute
of Hydrology, Belgaum, Karnataka (India) is
organising a National Seminar on  "FOREST, WATER
and PEOPLE, FORWAP-2004" during 29th to 30th
July, 2004. It is expected that more than 100
delegates from Research Organisation,
Universities, Policy Makers, NGO's and Government
officials will participate in the event. In this
context, I am enclosing the details of the
seminar and invite you to take part in the
seminar. I request you to send an abstract on the
themes mentioned in the brochure. Also, it is
requested that the information may be circulated
amongst your staff memebers for possible
contribution in the form of research paper and
participation.

Looking forward for your kind response,

Thanking you,

Yours Sincerely,

B. Venkatesh
Convenor, FORWAP-2004

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INFORMATION ON SEMINAR and OTHER DETAILS

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About Seminar

In recent decades, a host of experimental data
have been generated on interactions between water
and forests. Most of the studies and research
concentrated mainly on water production, flood
generation, soil erosion, sedimentation, and so
on. However, there are other important issues
such as global climate change, quality of
habitat, bio-diversity, and ecologically
sustainable development which merit due attention
from the scientific community. In India,
inexorable population growth, exploitation and
often irreversible destruction of forests,
demands that planners must give access to best
possible scientific background  for managing the
existing forests which play a significant role in
water resources development and management.

Regional Center is actively involved  in forested
hydrological research for the past six years and
completed  a project sponsored by UNESCO which
resulted in organising the seminar in order to
gather a group of Scientists, Engineers,
Foresters, NGO's  and Social workers taking into
account of large scale degradation of the
existing forest covers.

Themes

· Hydrological Processes in Forested Watersheds
· Impact of Land use and Land Cover Changes
· Enviornmental Aspects of Forested Watershed
· Peoples Participation in Watershed  Management

Date and Venue

The two days seminar is proposed to be held at
The Institution of Engineers (India), Belgaum
Local Centre,   Belgaum, Karnataka, India during
29th & 30th July 2004.

Call for Abstracts

Authors intending to present  papers on the above
themes are invited to submit abstracts of 300-500
words which should include, besides the problem
being studied,  atleast one paragraph pertaining
to results and conclusions. The authors may
indicate the theme under which the intended paper
can be discussed. Abstracts must have the full
title, name and affiliation, mailing address,
telephone and fax numbers and E-mail address. The
abstract should be typed in one and half space in
English and sent to the Convenor / Organisig
Secretary.

Sponsors

UNESCO, New Delhi
INCOH, Roorkee

Co-Sponsors

The Institution of Engineers (India), Belgaum
Local Centre.

Registration Fee

The registration fee is  Rs. 1000/- Charges for
every accompanying person will Rs.300/-.

Mode of Payment

The payment of registration fee should be made by
account payee demand draft drawn in favour of
"Convenor, FORWAP-2004" and payable at Belgaum.

Dates to Remember

Submission of Abstract 	 : March 31, 2004
Acceptance of Abstract 		 : April  10, 2004
Submission of Full Length Paper       : May 31,
2004
Acceptance of  full Length Paper      : June 10,
2004
Last Date of Registration         	 : June 30,
2004.
Dates of Seminar 		 : 29th and 30th July, 2004

ACCOMMODATION

The participants of the Seminar would be required
to arrange their own accommodation. However,
accommodation can be booked on prior intimation
against advance payment in private hotels (single
accommodation Rs. 200/- per day and double
accommodation Rs. 350/- per day approximately.

ABOUT NIH

The National Institute of Hydrology (NIH) was set
up in 1978 under Ministry of Water Resources,
Govt. of India with HQ at Roorkee for basic and
applied research in the areas of hydrology and
water resources to solve complex field problems.
For technology transfer and study of hydrological
problems of various agroclimatic regions of the
country, the institute has established six
regional centers. One of the first established
centers is the Hard Rock Regional Center, Belgaum
to tackle hydrological problems in the Hard Rock
Regions, mainly comprising of states of
Karnataka, Kerala, Goa and parts of  Maharashtra,
Tamil Nadu, and Andhra Pradesh.

ABOUT BELGAUM

Belgaum is situated on the border of Karnataka
State with Maharashtra and is well connected by
Roads and also by Trains. Climate is generally
pleasant with intermittent rains during July. The
State of Goa is located at about 150 km away to
the western side of  Belgaum.

Organising Committee

Patron 	 :Dr. K.D. Sharma, Director, NIH
Chairman 	 :Dr.K.S. Ramasastri, Scientist. F,
NIH, Roorkee
Convenor 	 :Mr. B. Venkatesh, Scientist `E1' &
Head, Regional Center, Belgaum
Organising Secretary :Dr.B.K. Purandara,
Scientist.C. Regional Center, Belgaum

Members :

Sh.V.B. Jawoor, President IE(India), Local
Centre, Belgaum
Sh. Brijesh Kumar, DCF, Social Forestry, KFD,
Belgaum
Sh. P.M. Ganiger, S.E., RDED, PWD,  Belgaum
Dr.V.S. Karjinni, KLESCET, Belgaum
Sh. Vinayak Sugur, Executive Engineer, PWD,
Belgaum
Sh.J.S. Sharma, Scientist.D Central Ground Water
Board, Belgaum
Sh.A.N. Chate,. AEE, Irrigation Investigation,
WRDO, Belgaum
Sh.M.K. Prabhudev, Environmental Officer, KSPCB,
Belgaum
N.C. Bagalkot, KSHIP, Belgaum
Sh. U.S. Hampannavar, VTU, Belgaum

National Advisory Committee

Chairman :    Dr.J.S. Samra, Deputy Director
General, ICAR, New Delhi.

Members :

Dr. K.D. Sharma, Director, NIH, Roorkee
Dr. S.N. Rai, PCCF, KFD, Bangalore
Dr.Jayakumar, UNESCO, New Delhi
Dr. E.J. James, Executive Director, CWRDM,
Kozhikode, Kerala
Dr. J.K. Sharma, Director, KFRI, Peechi, Kerala

Dr. Sharadchandra Lele, Coordinator, CISED,
Bangalore
Dr. Jagdish Krishnaswamy, ATREE, Bangalore
Sh. C.S. Ramasesha, Regional Director, CGWB,
Bangalore
Dr. T.P.Giridhar, Principal, SDMCET, Dharwad
Dr. B.S. Katakol, Principal, KLESCET, Belgaum
Dr. D.H. Rao, Principal, Gogte Institute of
Technology, Belgaum

Technical Committee

Chairman :Dr. KD. Sharma, Director, NIH, Roorkee
Members  :Dr.K.S. Ramasastri, Sc.F. NIH, Roorkee
Sh. Raju Ranjan, DCF, Silviculture, North Zone,
KFD, Dharwad
Dr. Masood Sharief. Secretary, TAC, Irrigation
Projects, GOK. Bangalore.
Dr. A.G. Chachadi, Unversity of Goa, Goa
Dr. N. Lakshman, Asst. Professor,  NITK,
Surathkal, Karnataka
Dr. Sharadchandra Lele, Coordinator, CISED,
Bangalore
Dr. Jagdish Krishnaswamy, ATREE, Bangalore
Dr. P.A. Sarangamath, Head, Department of Soil
Science, UAS, Dharwad
Prof. S.C. Puranik. Head, Department of Geology,
KU, Dharawad
Dr.K.G.Gupta, Govt. Engineering College,
Fermagudi, Goa.
Prof. Ravi, Head, Civil Engineering Department,
GIT, Belgaum
Dr. V.S. Hegde, Civil Engineering Department,
SDM, Dharwad

Address for Communication

Convenor, FORWAP-2004
Hard Rock Regional Centre,
National Institute of Hydrology,
Hanuman Nagar, 2nd Stage
Belgaum - 590 001, Karnataka

Ph.No. 0831 - 2447 714
Fax No. 0831 -2447 269

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Dear colleagues,

I am involved in a project for establishing a water quality management unit
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I am in the process of developing water quality assessment methodologies for
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- Drains
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Could you please advise on approaches/experiences/literature for developing
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Dear Jenny,
Would you please introduce or send me the best papers or articles which describe
evapotranspiration(ET) rate using energy balance method in detail?
Also, I am looking for information which describe one case study of using energy
balance method to calculate ET (detailed formulation and calculation). Can you
help me in this matter?
Regards,
Behzad

----- Original Message -----
   From: Jenny Blight
   To: hydrologymodel@...
   Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:19 PM
   Subject: RE: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements



   At Wits University we have measured ET using Energy Balance, and neglecting
   the trivial components.
   We simply measure net radiation with an inexpensive hand held radiometer,
   and air temperature at
   intervals throughout the day. We have checked results against using the
   "full Monty" Bowen Ratio
   method. Will get exact references for you if you like.

   Jenny Blight



   -----Original Message-----
   From: Emad Habib [mailto:habib@...]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:17 PM
   To: hydrologymodel@...
   Subject: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements


   I am looking for an inexpensive technology to measure evapotranspiration in
   southern louisiana, USA. We have an access to evaporation pan but that gives
   the potential evaporation only. I considered a device called eddy
   correlation that actually measures the actual ET but it is too expensive.
   Any information in this regard is appreciated.

   Thank You

   Emad



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Hi May,
For Spanish Water Information System try
http://hispagua.cedex.es

Regards,
Eugenio Páez Pérez
epaez@...

Técnica y Proyectos S.A. (TYPSA)
División de Obras Hidráulicas
Ulises, 108-2ºB-28043 Madrid
Tel:+34 91 716 06 70 - Fax:+34 91 388 33 61



-----Mensaje original-----
De: Fernando Nardi [mailto:fernando.nardi@...]
Enviado el: viernes, 06 de febrero de 2004 9:57
Para: hydrologymodel@...
Asunto: [hydrologymodel] ITALY - Water quality assessment methods for
rivers


Hi,
for Italian information you can look at http://www.gruppo183.org/
where you'll find all the link on italian water authorities called
"Autorità di bacino"
For example for the Tiber river you can go to http://www.abtevere.it/
and download all regulamentations and basin plans (gis data and
documents) and also online carthography (in italian basically).
Hope it helps you.
Cheers,
Fernando
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Fermin Lopez Unzu
   To: hydrologymodel@...
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:46 PM
   Subject: Re: [hydrologymodel] Water quality assessment methods for
rivers


   Hi,
   Spanish water authorities are called Confederación Hidrográfica.
   One of Them "Confederación hidrográfica del Ebro" (Ebro river water
authority). You may try its web page:
http://oph.chebro.es/DOCUMENTACION/Calidad/CalidadDeAguas.html with
information on water quality: network, data and reports on results.
Other autorities have similar web pages. You can fin then through the
Environment Ministry web page: http://www.mma.es



     ----- Original Message -----
     From: May Lee
     To: hydrologymodel@...
     Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:08 PM
     Subject: [hydrologymodel] Water quality assessment methods for
rivers



     Dear All,

     I am writing to ask if anyone knows the national water
     quality assessment methods for rivers in the following
     European countries as I am having serious problems finding
     them.
     Also, if you can please let me know where I can read
     about the methodology (preferably able to access the
     original survey too):-

     1. Spain
     2. Italy
     3. Austria
     4. Denmark
     5. Czech Republic

     Many thanks in advance.
     Best Wishes,
     May

     ----------------------
     May Lee
     PhD Student (Geogrpahy)
     Department of Geography
     King's College London
     Strand
     London
     WC2R 2LS
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At Wits University we have measured ET using Energy Balance, and neglecting
the trivial components.
We simply measure net radiation with an inexpensive hand held radiometer,
and air temperature at
intervals throughout the day. We have checked results against using the
"full Monty" Bowen Ratio
method. Will get exact references for you if you like.

Jenny Blight



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:17 PM
To: hydrologymodel@...
Subject: [hydrologymodel] ET measurements


I am looking for an inexpensive technology to measure evapotranspiration in
southern louisiana, USA. We have an access to evaporation pan but that gives
the potential evaporation only. I considered a device called eddy
correlation that actually measures the actual ET but it is too expensive.
Any information in this regard is appreciated.

Thank You

Emad



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Hi,
for Italian information you can look at http://www.gruppo183.org/
where you'll find all the link on italian water authorities called "Autorità di
bacino"
For example for the Tiber river you can go to http://www.abtevere.it/ and
download all regulamentations and basin plans (gis data and documents) and also
online carthography (in italian basically).
Hope it helps you.
Cheers,
Fernando
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Fermin Lopez Unzu
   To: hydrologymodel@...
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:46 PM
   Subject: Re: [hydrologymodel] Water quality assessment methods for rivers


   Hi,
   Spanish water authorities are called Confederación Hidrográfica.
   One of Them "Confederación hidrográfica del Ebro" (Ebro river water
authority). You may try its web page:
http://oph.chebro.es/DOCUMENTACION/Calidad/CalidadDeAguas.html with information
on water quality: network, data and reports on results. Other autorities have
similar web pages. You can fin then through the Environment Ministry web page:
http://www.mma.es



     ----- Original Message -----
     From: May Lee
     To: hydrologymodel@...
     Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:08 PM
     Subject: [hydrologymodel] Water quality assessment methods for rivers



     Dear All,

     I am writing to ask if anyone knows the national water
     quality assessment methods for rivers in the following
     European countries as I am having serious problems finding
     them.
     Also, if you can please let me know where I can read
     about the methodology (preferably able to access the
     original survey too):-

     1. Spain
     2. Italy
     3. Austria
     4. Denmark
     5. Czech Republic

     Many thanks in advance.
     Best Wishes,
     May

     ----------------------
     May Lee
     PhD Student (Geogrpahy)
     Department of Geography
     King's College London
     Strand
     London
     WC2R 2LS
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please have a look at our home page for the model
SEWAB, which is a 1-d SVAT coupled to a routing scheme.
We offer a CD including the model and a calibration methodology for free
for scientific purposes only.

Regards   H.-T. Mengelkamp


At 09:47 05.02.2004 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear Friends,
>I am looking for a best model (maybe developed newly) for evapotranspiration
(evaporation + transpiration).
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EC method is expensive (A set of system costs about $80k), and it has also
limtation. For example the areaof you study must be large enough, 30 times
of your vegeation height. Seems to me there is no simple way to measure
ET. Pan ET is still the best indicator of the AET. Other methods to
scale-up from leaf-level (LiCo6400), plant-level (sapflow) measurements
are all time consuming.

Ge

> I am looking for an inexpensive technology to measure evapotranspiration
> in
> southern louisiana, USA. We have an access to evaporation pan but that
> gives
> the potential evaporation only. I considered a device called eddy
> correlation that actually measures the actual ET but it is too expensive.
> Any information in this regard is appreciated.
>
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Hi,
Spanish water authorities are called Confederación Hidrográfica.
One of Them "Confederación hidrográfica del Ebro" (Ebro river water authority).
You may try its web page:
http://oph.chebro.es/DOCUMENTACION/Calidad/CalidadDeAguas.html with information
on water quality: network, data and reports on results. Other autorities have
similar web pages. You can fin then through the Environment Ministry web page:
http://www.mma.es



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: May Lee
   To: hydrologymodel@...
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:08 PM
   Subject: [hydrologymodel] Water quality assessment methods for rivers



   Dear All,

   I am writing to ask if anyone knows the national water
   quality assessment methods for rivers in the following
   European countries as I am having serious problems finding
   them.
   Also, if you can please let me know where I can read
   about the methodology (preferably able to access the
   original survey too):-

   1. Spain
   2. Italy
   3. Austria
   4. Denmark
   5. Czech Republic

   Many thanks in advance.
   Best Wishes,
   May

   ----------------------
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   PhD Student (Geogrpahy)
   Department of Geography
   King's College London
   Strand
   London
   WC2R 2LS
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I am looking for an inexpensive technology to measure evapotranspiration in
southern louisiana, USA. We have an access to evaporation pan but that gives
the potential evaporation only. I considered a device called eddy
correlation that actually measures the actual ET but it is too expensive.
Any information in this regard is appreciated.

Thank You

Emad

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Dear All,

I am writing to ask if anyone knows the national water
quality assessment methods for rivers in the following
European countries as I am having serious problems finding
them.
Also, if you can please let me know where I can read
about the methodology (preferably able to access the
original survey too):-

1. Spain
2. Italy
3. Austria
4. Denmark
5. Czech Republic

Many thanks in advance.
Best Wishes,
May

----------------------
May Lee
PhD Student (Geogrpahy)
Department of Geography
King's College London
Strand
London
WC2R 2LS
may.lee@...

Hi,

I am a doctoral student at the Asian Institute of Technology, Thailand.
Currently I am preparing for my research proposal on Integrative
analysis of hydrological effects of soil erosion from socio-hydrological
perspective in Northeast Thailand.

Can anybody suggest me on literature and any data-conservative models
that can be used for my research.

Thanking you in advance.

Kindest regards,
Wahid

http://stweb.ait.ac.th/~st038391/

Hello !
As I am new to this group I would like to shortly mention my
background and interest in participating in this newsgroup:
I am a PHD student at Technical University Darmstadt (Germany) and I
am working on a research project dealing with integrated modelling on
catchment scale.

I want to use the WASP6 model in combination with DYNHYD5 to represent
water quality aspects.

Is there anybody who has experience in linking the hydrodynamic model
DYNHYD5 to the water quality model WASP6 ?

I suspect that WASP6 makes a mistake during reading the *.hyd file.
Some provided junction volumes are apparently interpreted as flows.

Thanks !
best regards
Kai Schröter

Dear Friends,
I am looking for a best model (maybe developed newly) for evapotranspiration
(evaporation + transpiration).
Any body can help me?
Regards,
Behzad


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HI,

If you introduce more about the model to be analyzed, it will be
helpful to suggest details.

Geem

  --- David <utphd2003@...> wrote: >
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>
> Can anyone provide some information on the Genetic programming
> software ? I prepare to use it to analyze time series hydrologic
> data !
>
> Many thanks!
>
> David
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Hi David,

You can find a GP software called GPKernel on the following DHI web site:

http://www.d2k.dk/Software/index.htm

Regards,
Nitin



David wrote:

Hi Dear fellow,

Can anyone provide some information on the Genetic programming software ? I
prepare to use it to analyze time series hydrologic data !

Many thanks!

David

Hi Dear fellow,

Can anyone provide some information on the Genetic programming software ? I
prepare to use it to analyze time series hydrologic data !

Many thanks!

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To all who responded to the request for info concerning subject, Sorab
Panday responds below.

Michael Beach, P.E.
Senior Professional Engineer
Southwest Florida Water Management District
2379  Broad Street
Brooksville, Florida 34604-6899
Telephone:  (352) 796-7211 Extension 4253
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                       "Panday, Sorab
                       Ph.D."                   To:      
<Michael.Beach@...>
                       <spanday@...>        cc:
                                                Subject:  RE: [hydforum] Re:
[gwmodel] SCS Curve Number
                       01/27/2004 09:27
                       AM






Hi Michael

Thanks for all the references. The last one also seems to have some
interesting historical insights. I will read it in detail on the plane.
Please also thank the news-groups for their most appropriate insights. I
was pointed to exactly what I wanted to know saving hours of useless
searches - a great thing, this power of focused collective knowledge.

Sorab
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Dear All.......

I am very much interested in the exploration of Remote sensing and
GIS techniques in interlinking of rivers in india.
I would highly appreciate if I get some related literatures on this
area and their links and valuable suggestions on this.
Thanks in advance.

With thanks,
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Remigio Galárraga wrote:


>DEAR ALL,
>I AM WORKING IN THE ANDEAN AMAZON REGION IN A 2500 KM2 BASIN (QUIJOS DJ
>OYACACHI) AND I AM COLLECTING DAILY ATA OF PRECIPITATION, WATER LEVEL AT
>TWO RIVER GAGES, DAILY SEDIMENTS AND I WANT TO USE A PUBLIC DOMAIN MODEL
>TO MODEL DAILY PRECIPITATION RUNOFF AND SEDIMENTS. I DO ALSO HAVE A 25
>YEAR RECORD OF DAILY DATA IN THAT BASIN. WHERE CAN I FIND A MODEL LIKE THAT?

Dear Remigio,
the Amazon Region is an environment that I don't know very well. Instead I
usually use SWAT and HSPF in catchment modelling and I would say that both
models do not give their best in forested areas, as I expect is your study
area.
Best regards.
Antonio Lo Porto




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Hi,

     From my old text book (Soil and Water Conservation Engineering 3rd
Edition (G.O. Schwab, R,K. Frevert, T.W. Edminster, and K.K. Barnes) p. 79....

"This method was developed from many years of storm flow records for
agricultural watersheds in many parts of the United States.  The equation,
which applies to the curves in Fig. 4.4 is
                   2
          (I - 0.2 S)
Q =    --------------
           I = 0.8 S

where Q = direct surface runoff in depth in mm
             I = storm rainfall in mm (see Chapter 2),
          S = maximum potential difference between rainfall and runoff in
mm, starting at the            time the storm begins"

Note... Figure 4.4 was redrawn from US Conservation Service (1973).  A
Method for Estimating Volume and Rate of Runoff in Small
Watersheds.  SCS-TP-149, Washington, D.C.

Maribeth

At 09:34 AM 1/21/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Greetings,
>I am forwarding the query below. If anyone has any insight into the origins
>of SCS curve numbers, Dr. Panday would be very interested.  Post as usual
>and I will forward.
>All Good Things,
>
>Michael Beach, P.E.
>Senior Professional Engineer
>Southwest Florida Water Management District
>2379  Broad Street
>Brooksville, Florida 34604-6899
>Telephone:  (352) 796-7211 Extension 4253
>                 (800) 423-1476 (Florida Only)
>FAX:        (352)  797-5799
>E-Mail:  Michael.Beach@...
>http://www.watermatters.org
>
>NOTE:  All e-mail to and from the Southwest Florida Water Management
>District are considered to be public record.
>----- Forwarded by Michael Beach/DEV/swfwmd on 01/21/2004 09:30 AM -----
>
  >
>                       "Sorab
> Panday"
  >
>                       <spanday@...        To:
> <gwmodel@yahoogroups.com>
>                       m>                       cc:
  >
>                                                Subject:  [gwmodel] SCS
> Curve Number
>                       01/19/2004
> 08:04
  >
>                       PM
  >
>                       Please respond
> to
  >
>                       gwmodel
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>
  >
>
  >
>
>
>
>
>Hi Group
>
>Does anyone have insight on where the number value for the SCS curve
>numbers actually comes from? For example, who decided that for land use of
>x and soil type of a the SCS curve number is y, and why?
>
>Thanks.
>Sorab
>
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This is from the NRCS National Engineerihg Handbook, originally written in
1964 (For agricultural land cover).

ASSIGNMENT OF CN TO COMPLEXES. Table 9.1 was developed as follows.
The data literature was searched for watersheds in single complexes
(one soil group and one cover); watersheds,were found for most of
the listed complexes. An average CN for each watershed was obtained
by the method of example 5.4, using rainfall-runoff data for storms
producing the annual floods (chap. 18). The watersheds were generally
less than 1 square mile in size, the number of watersheds for
a complex varied, and the storms were of 1 day or less duration. The
CN of watersheds in the same complex were averaged, all CN for a
cover were plotted as shown in figure 7.2, a curve for each cover was
drawn with greater weight given to CN based on data from more than
one watershed, and each curve was extended as far as necessary to
provide CN for ungaged complexes.

See this site for the tables and complete description:

ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/downloads/hydrology_hydraulics/neh630/630ch9.pdf



Bill Frost, PE
KCI Technologies, Inc




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Sorab,

Try this link. It not only has a lot of papers on the origin and deriviation of
the coefficients and methods, it also has papers the recognize the "quirks" in
the method, particularly as they relate to small storms and Ia.

http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/hydro/hydro-techref-h&h-curve.html

--Bill Lucas

contact info:

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   Greetings,
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   of SCS curve numbers, Dr. Panday would be very interested.  Post as usual
   and I will forward.
   All Good Things,

   Michael Beach, P.E.
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   Southwest Florida Water Management District
   2379  Broad Street
   Brooksville, Florida 34604-6899
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Number
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   Does anyone have insight on where the number value for the SCS curve
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   Thanks.
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In response to Ge Sun's questions about models for watershed scale runoff
prediction as well as distibuted modeling capability, I would suggest
investigating the Watershed Modeling System (WMS) and it's corresponding suite
of models.  The GSSHA model included with WMS has just been released by the US
Army Corps and UCONN - this model is similar in capability to MIKE/SHE.  Futher,
the WMS software contains many of the "simple" watershed models
(HEC-1/HEC-HMS/TR-20/TR-55/HSPF/Rational) that often are easier to use
(especially for watershed scale runoff prediction).  The nice thing about the
WMS software is that all of the models are supported in the same GIS-based
interface.

Best regards,
Colby T. Manwaring
Enviromental Modeling Systems, Inc. (EMS-I)
www.ems-i.com
South Jordan, Utah