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From: anurag <k_anurag@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 12:30:09 PM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
WAITLIST is candidates picked up for selected people who do not join - you of course know that.
However the offer to waitlisted candidates is not extended on waitlist rank - it is extended on the factor that for every candidate who turns down the offer, a similar candidate should be available for backup (to maintain diversity).
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!! To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 9:19 PM
Congratulations to the guys who are in.
I have been wait-listed. IIMA says they would appreciate if we do not contact them if we are waitlisted.
Has any body got an idea how many are genereally waitlisted and what are the chances?
From: Ramakrishna Tammisetty <rktammisetty@ yahoo.com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:28:38 AM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
Congratulations and Good Luck to all the guys who made it to the prestegious IIMA.
I too am OUT.
--Ramakrishna
From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_ in@yahoo. com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:46:14 AM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
You need to login to the IIMA-PGPX site (the same place where you completed the application) and you'll be shown the status of your application. ATB!!!
I am out...Congrats to all those who made it through...
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!! To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:04 PM
Where is the list? Is an email sent to the selected candidates?
From: kiran_special <kiran_special@ yahoo.com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:30:09 AM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
WAITLIST is candidates picked up for selected people who do not join - you of course know that.
However the offer to waitlisted candidates is not extended on waitlist rank - it is extended on the factor that for every candidate who turns down the offer, a similar candidate should be available for backup (to maintain diversity).
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@...> wrote:
From: Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@...> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!! To: iimapgpx200910@... Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 9:19 PM
Congratulations to the guys who are in.
I have been wait-listed. IIMA says they would appreciate if we do not contact them if we are waitlisted.
Has any body got an idea how many are genereally waitlisted and what are the chances?
From: Ramakrishna Tammisetty <rktammisetty@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:28:38 AM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
Congratulations and Good Luck to all the guys who made it to the prestegious IIMA.
I too am OUT.
--Ramakrishna
From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_ in@yahoo. com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:46:14 AM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
You need to login to the IIMA-PGPX site (the same place where you completed the application) and you'll be shown the status of your application. ATB!!!
I am out...Congrats to all those who made it through...
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!! To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:04 PM
Where is the list? Is an email sent to the selected candidates?
From: kiran_special <kiran_special@ yahoo.com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:30:09 AM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
I have been wait-listed. IIMA says they would appreciate if we do not contact them if we are waitlisted.
Has any body got an idea how many are genereally waitlisted and what are the chances?
From: Ramakrishna Tammisetty <rktammisetty@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:28:38 AM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
Congratulations and Good Luck to all the guys who made it to the prestegious IIMA.
I too am OUT.
--Ramakrishna
From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_ in@yahoo. com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:46:14 AM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
You need to login to the IIMA-PGPX site (the same place where you completed the application) and you'll be shown the status of your application. ATB!!!
I am out...Congrats to all those who made it through...
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!! To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:04 PM
Where is the list? Is an email sent to the selected candidates?
From: kiran_special <kiran_special@ yahoo.com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:30:09 AM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
Congratulations and Good Luck to all the guys who made it to the prestegious IIMA.
I too am OUT.
--Ramakrishna
From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_in@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:46:14 AM Subject: Re:
[iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
You need to login to the IIMA-PGPX site (the same place where you completed the application) and you'll be shown the status of your application. ATB!!!
I am out...Congrats to all those who made it through...
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!! To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:04 PM
Where is the list? Is an email sent to the selected candidates?
From: kiran_special <kiran_special@ yahoo.com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:30:09 AM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
You need to login to the IIMA-PGPX site (the same place where you completed the application) and you'll be shown the status of your application. ATB!!!
I am out...Congrats to all those who made it through...
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@...> wrote:
From: Sudhir Patil <sudhirbp@...> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!! To: iimapgpx200910@... Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:04 PM
Where is the list? Is an email sent to the selected candidates?
From: kiran_special <kiran_special@ yahoo.com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:30:09 AM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
Where is the list? Is an email sent to the selected candidates?
From: kiran_special <kiran_special@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:30:09 AM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] IIMA PGPX FINAL RESULTS ARE PUBLISHED !!!
My Cell number is 9910076841. If anyone has apt on the same day then lets touch base and guide each other through the unknown city of Ahmedabad. I am scared....
Sure thing... Thanks for your kind words and Wish you all "All the best for your interviews"
Regards, Vinod
----- Original Message ---- From: Ramakrishna Tammisetty <rktammisetty@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:28:19 PM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy
Hi Vinod,
Vikram perfectly pointed out your broad mindedness. Good Luck for all your endeavours.
--Ramakrishna
----- Original Message ---- From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_ in@yahoo. com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:53:53 PM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy
Hey Vinod,
This is of course very helpful and especially commendable since you are trying
to help even though you were unlucky not to get an interview call this time...all the best for the other schools that you are trying.
thanks for the help, dude...
Cheers!!!
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Vinod Krishnan <vinod_krishnan@ rocketmail. com> wrote:
From: Vinod Krishnan <vinod_krishnan@ rocketmail. com> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 11:29 AM
So .. in the spirit of brotherhood. .. and the fact that i don't have a vested interest (since I didn't get an interview call) - forwarding an email thread i read on a similar question on ISB forum
To each one his own.
There is no right or wrong way of preparing. There might also not be a
conscious way in which you choose 'a way.' Consciously or subconsciously you keep on taking a few decisions that in hindsight look like 'a way' – a conscious strategy of success. I know that it might sound like a lot of bull but I can't help it – I'm typing this mail while attending my "Strategy Implementation" Class in Term 6 :)
So getting back to the 'ways' of preparing. I've found three broad
'ways':
*1) Spontaneous: * A few don't prepare at all but do get
admission. "What
> is there to prepare?" they ask. "After all the interview is just a
> conversation on what you did, why you did, how you did all that you
did and
> what you plan to do?." These 'type' of people could be two *1)
Those with a
> gift of the gab; and 2) Those with an honest, spontaneous and
unpretentious
> persona.*
>
> While I've found a few of the second type in ISB, I'm yet to come
across
> people of the first type. The problem with people of the first type
is that
> they can be easily caught. At the risk of making the mail a bit
lengthy, I'm
> tempted to narrate a prior interview experience of mine in a
students'
> organization called AIESEC (International Association of Students in
> Economics and management). I was in my under grad then.
>
> The interviewer asked me about my daily schedule and I gave a very
> 'Accha-baccha' kind of an answer. Told him that "I get up at 5:00,
exercise
> for an hour, meditate for half an hour *(Can you believe that
? ;-)*….go to
> college….et all…" narrating how disciplined and busy I was. And
then he
> dropped the bombshell.
>
> "How, if you are so busy, will you find time to work for the
organization? "
> he asked. Gosh, I thought, the chap was trying to figure out how
much time I
> have on hand and I, like an idiot, left no scope for any time in my
> schedule. Then, I started reversing my stand: "I go to college
every day," I
> said, "but never attend classes…."
>
> I cracked that interview and went on to become the Vice-President
of that
> organization ;-) Nevertheless, this is not an approach that I think
will
> work. Surely, not an approach I would recommend.
>
> 2) *Semi-Spontaneous : *This is the approach I adopted for ISB.
This
> entails thinking about all possible questions and being ready with
two or
> three points to speak on for each question. *(Man, I've written so
much
> already…. I'll wrap it up, **at least try to wrap it up** soon.)*
Go into
> the depths of all that you have on your CV, academics, extra-
curriculars,
> work ex, essays, hobbies – everything that you have communicated to
ISB. I
> made an elaborate excel sheet taking one question at a time. I
answered the
> question, posed counter questions, answered these counter questions
and then
> moved on to another question. The idea is not to frame the exact
answer you
> would be giving but just to frame the main points.
>
> 3) *Not Spontaneous (Fully prepared): *These are the types who
frame all
> possible questions and also the 'exact' answer they plan to give.
In my
> opinion, they would come across as neither spontaneous nor honest.
I know of
> a few who followed this approach but somehow managed spontaneity
too and
> secured an admission.
>
> *General Pointers*
>
> 1. So, as you see, there is not 'one-way' of preparing. Select a
way
> depending on what suits you.
> 2. Though this mail stresses a lot on spontaneity, spontaneity is
> important but not the most important or the only important
factor.
> 3. From my experience, I found honesty to be a determining
factor. (I
> come from a family business background and mentioned clearly
that I would be
> looking for a stint in the corporate sector. The admission board
told me
> that they could give me admission only if was committed to
starting a new
> venture or committed to going back to my family business. I
stuck to my guns
> of wanting a stint in the corporate sector – coz that is what I
wanted to
> do)
> 4. Expect the unexpected sometimes.
> 5. Read up interview experiences of others. Dig into Yahoo
groups and
> other forums for more experiences. (You could dig into my
interview
> experience also ;-)
> 6. If you give consulting as your future career choice, you
> *can*expect a case question.
> 7. Relax, be honest, and believe that 'whatever happens, happens
for
> good.'
>
> Ok guys, my class is coming to an end and so is my mail. Hope the
mails
> proves to be helpful.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> *Ashish Naredi*
>
> *Class of 2008*
Vikram perfectly pointed out your broad mindedness. Good Luck for all your endeavours.
--Ramakrishna
----- Original Message ---- From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_in@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:53:53 PM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy
Hey Vinod,
This is of course very helpful and especially commendable since you are trying
to help even though you were unlucky not to get an interview call this time...all the best for the other schools that you are trying.
thanks for the help, dude...
Cheers!!!
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Vinod Krishnan <vinod_krishnan@ rocketmail. com> wrote:
From: Vinod Krishnan <vinod_krishnan@ rocketmail. com> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 11:29 AM
So .. in the spirit of brotherhood. .. and the fact that i don't have a vested interest (since I didn't get an interview call) - forwarding an email thread i read on a similar question on ISB forum
To each one his own.
There is no right or wrong way of preparing. There might also not be a
conscious way in which you choose 'a way.' Consciously or subconsciously you keep on taking a few decisions that in hindsight look like 'a way' – a conscious strategy of success. I know that it might sound like a lot of bull but I can't help it – I'm typing this mail while attending my "Strategy Implementation" Class in Term 6 :)
So getting back to the 'ways' of preparing. I've found three broad
'ways':
*1) Spontaneous: * A few don't prepare at all but do get
admission. "What
> is there to prepare?" they ask. "After all the interview is just a
> conversation on what you did, why you did, how you did all that you
did and
> what you plan to do?." These 'type' of people could be two *1)
Those with a
> gift of the gab; and 2) Those with an honest, spontaneous and
unpretentious
> persona.*
>
> While I've found a few of the second type in ISB, I'm yet to come
across
> people of the first type. The problem with people of the first type
is that
> they can be easily caught. At the risk of making the mail a bit
lengthy, I'm
> tempted to narrate a prior interview experience of mine in a
students'
> organization called AIESEC (International Association of Students in
> Economics and management). I was in my under grad then.
>
> The interviewer asked me about my daily schedule and I gave a very
> 'Accha-baccha' kind of an answer. Told him that "I get up at 5:00,
exercise
> for an hour, meditate for half an hour *(Can you believe that
? ;-)*….go to
> college….et all…" narrating how disciplined and busy I was. And
then he
> dropped the bombshell.
>
> "How, if you are so busy, will you find time to work for the
organization? "
> he asked. Gosh, I thought, the chap was trying to figure out how
much time I
> have on hand and I, like an idiot, left no scope for any time in my
> schedule. Then, I started reversing my stand: "I go to college
every day," I
> said, "but never attend classes…."
>
> I cracked that interview and went on to become the Vice-President
of that
> organization ;-) Nevertheless, this is not an approach that I think
will
> work. Surely, not an approach I would recommend.
>
> 2) *Semi-Spontaneous : *This is the approach I adopted for ISB.
This
> entails thinking about all possible questions and being ready with
two or
> three points to speak on for each question. *(Man, I've written so
much
> already…. I'll wrap it up, **at least try to wrap it up** soon.)*
Go into
> the depths of all that you have on your CV, academics, extra-
curriculars,
> work ex, essays, hobbies – everything that you have communicated to
ISB. I
> made an elaborate excel sheet taking one question at a time. I
answered the
> question, posed counter questions, answered these counter questions
and then
> moved on to another question. The idea is not to frame the exact
answer you
> would be giving but just to frame the main points.
>
> 3) *Not Spontaneous (Fully prepared): *These are the types who
frame all
> possible questions and also the 'exact' answer they plan to give.
In my
> opinion, they would come across as neither spontaneous nor honest.
I know of
> a few who followed this approach but somehow managed spontaneity
too and
> secured an admission.
>
> *General Pointers*
>
> 1. So, as you see, there is not 'one-way' of preparing. Select a
way
> depending on what suits you.
> 2. Though this mail stresses a lot on spontaneity, spontaneity is
> important but not the most important or the only important
factor.
> 3. From my experience, I found honesty to be a determining
factor. (I
> come from a family business background and mentioned clearly
that I would be
> looking for a stint in the corporate sector. The admission board
told me
> that they could give me admission only if was committed to
starting a new
> venture or committed to going back to my family business. I
stuck to my guns
> of wanting a stint in the corporate sector – coz that is what I
wanted to
> do)
> 4. Expect the unexpected sometimes.
> 5. Read up interview experiences of others. Dig into Yahoo
groups and
> other forums for more experiences. (You could dig into my
interview
> experience also ;-)
> 6. If you give consulting as your future career choice, you
> *can*expect a case question.
> 7. Relax, be honest, and believe that 'whatever happens, happens
for
> good.'
>
> Ok guys, my class is coming to an end and so is my mail. Hope the
mails
> proves to be helpful.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> *Ashish Naredi*
>
> *Class of 2008*
This is of course very helpful and especially commendable since you are trying
to help even though you were unlucky not to get an interview call this time...all the best for the other schools that you are trying.
thanks for the help, dude...
Cheers!!!
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Vinod Krishnan <vinod_krishnan@...> wrote:
From: Vinod Krishnan <vinod_krishnan@...> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy To: iimapgpx200910@... Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 11:29 AM
So .. in the spirit of brotherhood. .. and the fact that i don't have a vested interest (since I didn't get an interview call) - forwarding an email thread i read on a similar question on ISB forum
To each one his own.
There is no right or wrong way of preparing. There might also not be a
conscious way in which you choose 'a way.' Consciously or subconsciously you keep on taking a few decisions that in hindsight look like 'a way' – a conscious strategy of success. I know that it might sound like a lot of bull but I can't help it – I'm typing this mail while attending my "Strategy Implementation" Class in Term 6 :)
So getting back to the 'ways' of preparing. I've found three broad
'ways':
*1) Spontaneous: * A few don't prepare at all but do get
admission. "What
> is there to prepare?" they ask. "After all the interview is just a
> conversation on what you did, why you did, how you did all that you
did and
> what you plan to do?." These 'type' of people could be two *1)
Those with a
> gift of the gab; and 2) Those with an honest, spontaneous and
unpretentious
> persona.*
>
> While I've found a few of the second type in ISB, I'm yet to come
across
> people of the first type. The problem with people of the first type
is that
> they can be easily caught. At the risk of making the mail a bit
lengthy, I'm
> tempted to narrate a prior interview experience of mine in a
students'
> organization called AIESEC (International Association of Students in
> Economics and management). I was in my under grad then.
>
> The interviewer asked me about my daily schedule and I gave a very
> 'Accha-baccha' kind of an answer. Told him that "I get up at 5:00,
exercise
> for an hour, meditate for half an hour *(Can you believe that
? ;-)*….go to
> college….et all…" narrating how disciplined and busy I was. And
then he
> dropped the bombshell.
>
> "How, if you are so busy, will you find time to work for the
organization? "
> he asked. Gosh, I thought, the chap was trying to figure out how
much time I
> have on hand and I, like an idiot, left no scope for any time in my
> schedule. Then, I started reversing my stand: "I go to college
every day," I
> said, "but never attend classes…."
>
> I cracked that interview and went on to become the Vice-President
of that
> organization ;-) Nevertheless, this is not an approach that I think
will
> work. Surely, not an approach I would recommend.
>
> 2) *Semi-Spontaneous : *This is the approach I adopted for ISB.
This
> entails thinking about all possible questions and being ready with
two or
> three points to speak on for each question. *(Man, I've written so
much
> already…. I'll wrap it up, **at least try to wrap it up** soon.)*
Go into
> the depths of all that you have on your CV, academics, extra-
curriculars,
> work ex, essays, hobbies – everything that you have communicated to
ISB. I
> made an elaborate excel sheet taking one question at a time. I
answered the
> question, posed counter questions, answered these counter questions
and then
> moved on to another question. The idea is not to frame the exact
answer you
> would be giving but just to frame the main points.
>
> 3) *Not Spontaneous (Fully prepared): *These are the types who
frame all
> possible questions and also the 'exact' answer they plan to give.
In my
> opinion, they would come across as neither spontaneous nor honest.
I know of
> a few who followed this approach but somehow managed spontaneity
too and
> secured an admission.
>
> *General Pointers*
>
> 1. So, as you see, there is not 'one-way' of preparing. Select a
way
> depending on what suits you.
> 2. Though this mail stresses a lot on spontaneity, spontaneity is
> important but not the most important or the only important
factor.
> 3. From my experience, I found honesty to be a determining
factor. (I
> come from a family business background and mentioned clearly
that I would be
> looking for a stint in the corporate sector. The admission board
told me
> that they could give me admission only if was committed to
starting a new
> venture or committed to going back to my family business. I
stuck to my guns
> of wanting a stint in the corporate sector – coz that is what I
wanted to
> do)
> 4. Expect the unexpected sometimes.
> 5. Read up interview experiences of others. Dig into Yahoo
groups and
> other forums for more experiences. (You could dig into my
interview
> experience also ;-)
> 6. If you give consulting as your future career choice, you
> *can*expect a case question.
> 7. Relax, be honest, and believe that 'whatever happens, happens
for
> good.'
>
> Ok guys, my class is coming to an end and so is my mail. Hope the
mails
> proves to be helpful.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> *Ashish Naredi*
>
> *Class of 2008*
So .. in the spirit of brotherhood... and the fact that i don't have a vested interest (since I didn't get an interview call) - forwarding an email thread i read on a similar question on ISB forum
To each one his own.
There is no right or wrong way of preparing. There might also not be a
conscious way in which you choose 'a way.' Consciously or subconsciously you keep on taking a few decisions that in hindsight look like 'a way' – a conscious strategy of success. I know that it might sound like a lot of bull but I can't help it – I'm typing this mail while attending my "Strategy Implementation" Class in Term 6 :)
So getting back to the 'ways' of preparing. I've found three broad
'ways':
*1) Spontaneous: * A few don't prepare at all but do get
admission. "What
> is there to prepare?" they ask. "After all the interview is just a
> conversation on what you did, why you did, how you did all that you
did and
> what you plan to do?." These 'type' of people could be two *1)
Those with a
> gift of the gab; and 2) Those with an honest, spontaneous and
unpretentious
> persona.*
>
> While I've found a few of the second type in ISB, I'm yet to come
across
> people of the first type. The problem with people of the first type
is that
> they can be easily caught. At the risk of making the mail a bit
lengthy, I'm
> tempted to narrate a prior interview experience of mine in a
students'
> organization called AIESEC (International Association of Students in
> Economics and management). I was in my under grad then.
>
> The interviewer asked me about my daily schedule and I gave a very
> 'Accha-baccha' kind of an answer. Told him that "I get up at 5:00,
exercise
> for an hour, meditate for half an hour *(Can you believe that
? ;-)*….go to
> college….et all…" narrating how disciplined and busy I was. And
then he
> dropped the bombshell.
>
> "How, if you are so busy, will you find time to work for the
organization? "
> he asked. Gosh, I thought, the chap was trying to figure out how
much time I
> have on hand and I, like an idiot, left no scope for any time in my
> schedule. Then, I started reversing my stand: "I go to college
every day," I
> said, "but never attend classes…."
>
> I cracked that interview and went on to become the Vice-President
of that
> organization ;-) Nevertheless, this is not an approach that I think
will
> work. Surely, not an approach I would recommend.
>
> 2) *Semi-Spontaneous : *This is the approach I adopted for ISB.
This
> entails thinking about all possible questions and being ready with
two or
> three points to speak on for each question. *(Man, I've written so
much
> already…. I'll wrap it up, **at least try to wrap it up** soon.)*
Go into
> the depths of all that you have on your CV, academics, extra-
curriculars,
> work ex, essays, hobbies – everything that you have communicated to
ISB. I
> made an elaborate excel sheet taking one question at a time. I
answered the
> question, posed counter questions, answered these counter questions
and then
> moved on to another question. The idea is not to frame the exact
answer you
> would be giving but just to frame the main points.
>
> 3) *Not Spontaneous (Fully prepared): *These are the types who
frame all
> possible questions and also the 'exact' answer they plan to give.
In my
> opinion, they would come across as neither spontaneous nor honest.
I know of
> a few who followed this approach but somehow managed spontaneity
too and
> secured an admission.
>
> *General Pointers*
>
> 1. So, as you see, there is not 'one-way' of preparing. Select a
way
> depending on what suits you.
> 2. Though this mail stresses a lot on spontaneity, spontaneity is
> important but not the most important or the only important
factor.
> 3. From my experience, I found honesty to be a determining
factor. (I
> come from a family business background and mentioned clearly
that I would be
> looking for a stint in the corporate sector. The admission board
told me
> that they could give me admission only if was committed to
starting a new
> venture or committed to going back to my family business. I
stuck to my guns
> of wanting a stint in the corporate sector – coz that is what I
wanted to
> do)
> 4. Expect the unexpected sometimes.
> 5. Read up interview experiences of others. Dig into Yahoo
groups and
> other forums for more experiences. (You could dig into my
interview
> experience also ;-)
> 6. If you give consulting as your future career choice, you
> *can*expect a case question.
> 7. Relax, be honest, and believe that 'whatever happens, happens
for
> good.'
>
> Ok guys, my class is coming to an end and so is my mail. Hope the
mails
> proves to be helpful.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> *Ashish Naredi*
>
> *Class of 2008*
:-) good point...however, I thought the whole point of this group was to share information so that we can all gain from our collective knowledge...come on, wherez the spirit of brotherhood??? :)
I do acknowledge your point and believe me you I wasn't banking on the response to this for all my interview prep...
Cheers
Vikram
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@...> wrote:
From: Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@...> Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy To: iimapgpx200910@... Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:55 AM
Vikram.
IIM wont select all the good applicants. It shall select only top 80 applicants. Keeping that in mind i would suggest you to seek some outside professional help - search on google etc. asking for strategic help from other applicants (or competitors) is like Pepsi seeking consultancy from Coke :-) Why would I (or anyone) tell you how to crack IW :-)
--
Manish Gulati
--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_ in@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_ in@yahoo. com> Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 11:57 PM
Hi All,
Does anyone have any tips on how to prepare for the interviews? I understand the interviews are stress interviews to some extent but is anyone following some kindof plan on how to go about preparing for the interview?
I'm planning to keep it simple...just make sure that I get the basics down...know exactly what I would like to say for the standard why mba, why iima kindof questions. I feel that the rest of it I can't prepare for as it is so unpredictable.
Would be great if you all can share what you think has been helping you or has helped you in your interview prep.
IIM wont select all the good applicants. It shall select only top 80 applicants. Keeping that in mind i would suggest you to seek some outside professional help - search on google etc. asking for strategic help from other applicants (or competitors) is like Pepsi seeking consultancy from Coke :-) Why would I (or anyone) tell you how to crack IW :-)
--
Manish Gulati
--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_in@...> wrote:
From: Vikram Das <cool_dude_22_in@...> Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Interview Tips/Strategy To: iimapgpx200910@... Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 11:57 PM
Hi All,
Does anyone have any tips on how to prepare for the interviews? I understand the interviews are stress interviews to some extent but is anyone following some kindof plan on how to go about preparing for the interview?
I'm planning to keep it simple...just make sure that I get the basics down...know exactly what I would like to say for the standard why mba, why iima kindof questions. I feel that the rest of it I can't prepare for as it is so unpredictable.
Would be great if you all can share what you think has been helping you or has helped you in your interview prep.
Does anyone have any tips on how to prepare for the interviews? I understand the interviews are stress interviews to some extent but is anyone following some kindof plan on how to go about preparing for the interview?
I'm planning to keep it simple...just make sure that I get the basics down...know exactly what I would like to say for the standard why mba, why iima kindof questions. I feel that the rest of it I can't prepare for as it is so unpredictable.
Would be great if you all can share what you think has been helping you or has helped you in your interview prep.
80 out of 350. I would assume 30-40 people in 350 may not prefer IIM-A and go to US institutes etc. This may cut down the battle to 80 out of 310. Which can be roughly assumed as 1 in 3 will get selected. This is not a bad selection ratio. It can be safely assumed that if we did 2 out of following 3 things wrong then we can count ourseleves out.
1 -- High GMAT (atleast 700)
2 -- High work experience (around 10 years)
3 -- U felt like u could not handle even 50% of their questions after walking out of the interview. U did not know about Stalin, Socretes, Lenin etc, U could contain them in Financial sector, U were made to believe that u better wake up.
This implies folks having 2 out of above 3 things should start working on finances.
My 2 cents.
--
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, kiran_special <kiran_special@...> wrote:
From: kiran_special <kiran_special@...> Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Re: Interview experience To: iimapgpx200910@... Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 9:40 PM
Hi,
I may not be able to share the exact quote. But it was about relation between two unrelated things. Quotes varied from person to person.
Yes. 3 mins was too short of time. When I exceeded, profs, politely asked me to conclude the presentation. My presentation was about how I handled a operational crisis at my workplace ( I am from manufacturing background).
The no of seats will be 80 only. Since IIMA is expanding their PGP course, they are not in a position to expand the class this year. Mr. Alok Jain of IIMA confirmed this.He also told that total no. of applicants is 1400+.
The no. of candidates called for interview is about 350.(Someone in pagalguy.com quoted this figure)
Bye --- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, mrugendra singhai <mrugncsu@.. .> wrote: > > Hi
Kiran, > > Thanks a lot for interview update. If you dont mind then can you please share the quote that you were asked to comment on. I have also read on pagal guy that some panels didn't even ask for presentation. Were you able to manage your presentation in 3 mints. 3 mints is too short of a time, one can hardly describe the problem let alone the solution. If you dont mind, what did you pick as the presentation topic? > > Thanks, > > > --- On Tue, 9/23/08, kiran_special <kiran_special@ ...> wrote: > > > From: kiran_special <kiran_special@ ...> > > Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Interview experience > > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > > Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:26 AM > > My interview was on 19th at IIMA campus.. Totally
there were > > around 40 > > applicants on 19th.I was interviewed by Panel-3. 3 > > prof/panel. first > > asked me to show the certificates. Then asked me to tell > > abt myself. > > few questions on my role, why MBA now. Then they gave me a > > quote and > > asked me to comment on that for 3 mins. This took me by > > surprise and I > > was blank . I did answer but could not convince the panel. > > Then the > > presentation. I was asked to present in 3 mins.. Further > > the > > discussion was on investment in india, pros and cons, govt > > policies, > > investment in my sector ( Commodities -Metals), future > > growth. Asked > > abt my views on US credit crisis, possible impact on my > > sector & > > indo-us N deal. Few Qs on finance terms. Discussed abt my > >
EC. > > Interview lasted for abt 25-30 mins. Profs were very > > cordial, However > > I felt it was little bit of stress interview. Whenever I > > was going > > away from topic and try to drive the interview towards me, > > profs > > politely asked me to come back to topic.Overall I am not > > sure how I > > did? But could not do much to my own expectation. The best > > thing is to > > be yourself. Professors are able to see through you. > > > > Met some present PGPX students, visited campus and housing. > > Infrastructure is good and IIMA is very serious abt making > > this a good > > course. However this year also total no. of seats offered > > are 80 only. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > >
> > > > >
Hi,
I may not be able to share the exact quote. But it was about relation
between two unrelated things. Quotes varied from person to person.
Yes. 3 mins was too short of time. When I exceeded, profs, politely asked me to
conclude the presentation. My presentation was about how I
handled a operational crisis at my workplace ( I am from manufacturing
background).
The no of seats will be 80 only. Since IIMA is expanding their PGP
course, they are not in a position to expand the class this year. Mr.
Alok Jain of IIMA confirmed this.He also told that total no. of
applicants is 1400+.
The no. of candidates called for interview is about 350.(Someone in
pagalguy.com quoted this figure)
Bye
--- In iimapgpx200910@..., mrugendra singhai
<mrugncsu@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kiran,
>
> Thanks a lot for interview update. If you dont mind then can you
please share the quote that you were asked to comment on. I have also
read on pagal guy that some panels didn't even ask for presentation.
Were you able to manage your presentation in 3 mints. 3 mints is too
short of a time, one can hardly describe the problem let alone the
solution. If you dont mind, what did you pick as the presentation
topic?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/23/08, kiran_special <kiran_special@...> wrote:
>
> > From: kiran_special <kiran_special@...>
> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Interview experience
> > To: iimapgpx200910@...
> > Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:26 AM
> > My interview was on 19th at IIMA campus.. Totally there were
> > around 40
> > applicants on 19th.I was interviewed by Panel-3. 3
> > prof/panel. first
> > asked me to show the certificates. Then asked me to tell
> > abt myself.
> > few questions on my role, why MBA now. Then they gave me a
> > quote and
> > asked me to comment on that for 3 mins. This took me by
> > surprise and I
> > was blank . I did answer but could not convince the panel.
> > Then the
> > presentation. I was asked to present in 3 mins.. Further
> > the
> > discussion was on investment in india, pros and cons, govt
> > policies,
> > investment in my sector ( Commodities -Metals), future
> > growth. Asked
> > abt my views on US credit crisis, possible impact on my
> > sector &
> > indo-us N deal. Few Qs on finance terms. Discussed abt my
> > EC.
> > Interview lasted for abt 25-30 mins. Profs were very
> > cordial, However
> > I felt it was little bit of stress interview. Whenever I
> > was going
> > away from topic and try to drive the interview towards me,
> > profs
> > politely asked me to come back to topic.Overall I am not
> > sure how I
> > did? But could not do much to my own expectation. The best
> > thing is to
> > be yourself. Professors are able to see through you.
> >
> > Met some present PGPX students, visited campus and housing.
> > Infrastructure is good and IIMA is very serious abt making
> > this a good
> > course. However this year also total no. of seats offered
> > are 80 only.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
Hi Kiran,
Thanks a lot for interview update. If you dont mind then can you please share
the quote that you were asked to comment on. I have also read on pagal guy that
some panels didn't even ask for presentation. Were you able to manage your
presentation in 3 mints. 3 mints is too short of a time, one can hardly describe
the problem let alone the solution. If you dont mind, what did you pick as the
presentation topic?
Thanks,
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, kiran_special <kiran_special@...> wrote:
> From: kiran_special <kiran_special@...>
> Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Interview experience
> To: iimapgpx200910@...
> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:26 AM
> My interview was on 19th at IIMA campus.. Totally there were
> around 40
> applicants on 19th.I was interviewed by Panel-3. 3
> prof/panel. first
> asked me to show the certificates. Then asked me to tell
> abt myself.
> few questions on my role, why MBA now. Then they gave me a
> quote and
> asked me to comment on that for 3 mins. This took me by
> surprise and I
> was blank . I did answer but could not convince the panel.
> Then the
> presentation. I was asked to present in 3 mins.. Further
> the
> discussion was on investment in india, pros and cons, govt
> policies,
> investment in my sector ( Commodities -Metals), future
> growth. Asked
> abt my views on US credit crisis, possible impact on my
> sector &
> indo-us N deal. Few Qs on finance terms. Discussed abt my
> EC.
> Interview lasted for abt 25-30 mins. Profs were very
> cordial, However
> I felt it was little bit of stress interview. Whenever I
> was going
> away from topic and try to drive the interview towards me,
> profs
> politely asked me to come back to topic.Overall I am not
> sure how I
> did? But could not do much to my own expectation. The best
> thing is to
> be yourself. Professors are able to see through you.
>
> Met some present PGPX students, visited campus and housing.
> Infrastructure is good and IIMA is very serious abt making
> this a good
> course. However this year also total no. of seats offered
> are 80 only.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Thanks for sharing your exp Kiran. It will help us for sure.
Seats are supposed to be 165, if I am right. Can you confirm whether it is 80.
--Ramakrishna
----- Original Message ---- From: kiran_special <kiran_special@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:56:37 PM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Interview experience
My interview was on 19th at IIMA campus.. Totally there were around 40 applicants on 19th.I was interviewed by Panel-3. 3 prof/panel. first asked me to show the certificates. Then asked me to tell abt myself. few questions on my role, why MBA now. Then they gave me a quote and asked me to comment on that for 3 mins. This took me by surprise and I was blank . I did answer but could not convince the panel. Then the presentation. I was asked to present in 3 mins.. Further the discussion was on investment in india, pros and cons, govt policies, investment in my sector ( Commodities -Metals), future growth. Asked abt my views on US credit crisis, possible impact on my sector & indo-us N deal. Few Qs on finance terms. Discussed abt my EC. Interview lasted for abt 25-30 mins. Profs were very cordial, However I felt it was little bit of stress interview. Whenever I was going away from topic and try to drive the
interview towards me, profs politely asked me to come back to topic.Overall I am not sure how I did? But could not do much to my own expectation. The best thing is to be yourself. Professors are able to see through you.
Met some present PGPX students, visited campus and housing. Infrastructure is good and IIMA is very serious abt making this a good course. However this year also total no. of seats offered are 80 only.
My interview was on 19th at IIMA campus.. Totally there were around 40
applicants on 19th.I was interviewed by Panel-3. 3 prof/panel. first
asked me to show the certificates. Then asked me to tell abt myself.
few questions on my role, why MBA now. Then they gave me a quote and
asked me to comment on that for 3 mins. This took me by surprise and I
was blank . I did answer but could not convince the panel. Then the
presentation. I was asked to present in 3 mins.. Further the
discussion was on investment in india, pros and cons, govt policies,
investment in my sector ( Commodities -Metals), future growth. Asked
abt my views on US credit crisis, possible impact on my sector &
indo-us N deal. Few Qs on finance terms. Discussed abt my EC.
Interview lasted for abt 25-30 mins. Profs were very cordial, However
I felt it was little bit of stress interview. Whenever I was going
away from topic and try to drive the interview towards me, profs
politely asked me to come back to topic.Overall I am not sure how I
did? But could not do much to my own expectation. The best thing is to
be yourself. Professors are able to see through you.
Met some present PGPX students, visited campus and housing.
Infrastructure is good and IIMA is very serious abt making this a good
course. However this year also total no. of seats offered are 80 only.
it all depends on where you see yourself working for the next 5 to 10 years. If that is in Europe then you might be better off pursuing your MBA in Europe. If you would like to be working in India, IIMs (or ISB) would be your best bet. It is true that you can get international placements via PGP(or PGPX) in IIMs but it depends on a variety of factors. With regard to placements one key difference between IIMs and European B-schools is that in case of IIMs you are pretty much guaranteed a decent job after you finish, whereas in European B-schools a lot depends on your own networking abilities rather than the school's placement cell. Also with tightening immigration rules throughout Europe, ability to get into companies who can sponsor your work permit/work visa also becomes an important factor.
J.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Girish Narang <narang.girish@...> wrote:
Hi Friends,
I am seeking an advice from all of you, which I am unable to resolve myself.
I am presently pursuing an MBA from Manchester Business School, University of Manchester. I have got a preselection mail from IIM-A and my interview is in London.
I am quite confused whether I should go ahead for IIM interview or not. I mean what could be potential pros & cons of PGPX from IIMA compared to that of MBS.
I am throwing this a bit open to get different views from all of you.
Please respond,
Girish
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Nityananda Mukherjee <nitya34@...> wrote:
Hi Jeffrey as you know me but thought of writing to this eminent group(Must be busy with I/V prep now)
I have interacted with many guys(ex IIM/ISB-ex and current student) in the last 2-3 yrs
inside -outside linkedin forum also
It all depends on what you want but moving from say sales,IT to VP(Research), I banking -->not possible in One yr MBA(be it INSEAD or IIM)
advantage of INSEAD and London Biz school--->variety of Firms do visit them.
Private Equity to UNDP to NGO(for Social sector guys)
in IIM-A,they have started in this line(atkleast in PGP-PMP but will be done in 1-2 yrs) World bank as employer will visit soon. problem with PGPX is (atleast I feel)-70% Junta is from IT(may be from 10 different fields but all in IT Cos)
very few from I banking side(as the minm exp level is 6-7 yrs plus)
so less PE firms visit the campus
but it may change depending on the profile of the batch whatever happens ,one thing is sure, IIM-A and ISB will remain the best in its category
Hi guys, I am not part of this round of interviews but am keen on trying for PGPX next time round. To me this particular qustion (type of roles after PGPX) is the most important one. I asked this question to a couple of passouts and current students of PGPX and mainly I was told that for IT guys, most of the roles would be in the pre-sales and business development area. There is very less scope for an IT guy to completely change careers by doing a PGPX.
Cheers, J.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Nityananda Mukherjee <nitya34@...> wrote:
Just to add to what Manish has rightly pointed out PGPX is more like general management and Strategy in the same field you are in having said that,Its also excellent for Professionals who are from PSUs and Govt(IAS and others)
For example a Guy from NTPC(NPCIL) can easily be absorbed into GMR,Reliance Energy with 2 times his current CTC. Overall, PGPX is Great value addition and is a MUST for stagnating career/field its also great for networking skills
all the best for I/V regards Nityananda (@linkedin)
Overall i have understood that after PGPX one should try to stick to his industry and figure out a non CEO kind of role to aim at. This ensure that you will get hired quickly during placements and with some % increase in salary. If changing carrer e.g. IT to investment banker is a desire then 2 yr MBA is suited and starting salary may not be higher than what u were making before. overall its good to do PGPX but keep ur expectations really really grounded.
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all
curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the
salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@ ...> wrote:
> > This is a very dangerous question. > > I have asked this question to several people and answers are not very encouraging. > > You should not worry about placements
and roles till ur interview. > > From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX.
Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp. > > To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are
very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme. > > I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-)
> > -- > Manish Gulati > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote: > > From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910]
Question about placements > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM >
> > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a general question about the placements. All information > provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the > kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any
information on > this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any > definite information. May be I missed something ? > > For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in
the > IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX? > > thanks in advance. > > Srinivas >
I am seeking an advice from all of you, which I am unable to resolve myself.
I am presently pursuing an MBA from Manchester Business School, University of Manchester. I have got a preselection mail from IIM-A and my interview is in London.
I am quite confused whether I should go ahead for IIM interview or not. I mean what could be potential pros & cons of PGPX from IIMA compared to that of MBS.
I am throwing this a bit open to get different views from all of you.
Please respond,
Girish
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Nityananda Mukherjee <nitya34@...> wrote:
Hi Jeffrey as you know me but thought of writing to this eminent group(Must be busy with I/V prep now)
I have interacted with many guys(ex IIM/ISB-ex and current student) in the last 2-3 yrs
inside -outside linkedin forum also
It all depends on what you want but moving from say sales,IT to VP(Research), I banking -->not possible in One yr MBA(be it INSEAD or IIM)
advantage of INSEAD and London Biz school--->variety of Firms do visit them.
Private Equity to UNDP to NGO(for Social sector guys)
in IIM-A,they have started in this line(atkleast in PGP-PMP but will be done in 1-2 yrs) World bank as employer will visit soon. problem with PGPX is (atleast I feel)-70% Junta is from IT(may be from 10 different fields but all in IT Cos)
very few from I banking side(as the minm exp level is 6-7 yrs plus)
so less PE firms visit the campus
but it may change depending on the profile of the batch whatever happens ,one thing is sure, IIM-A and ISB will remain the best in its category
Hi guys, I am not part of this round of interviews but am keen on trying for PGPX next time round. To me this particular qustion (type of roles after PGPX) is the most important one. I asked this question to a couple of passouts and current students of PGPX and mainly I was told that for IT guys, most of the roles would be in the pre-sales and business development area. There is very less scope for an IT guy to completely change careers by doing a PGPX.
Cheers, J.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Nityananda Mukherjee <nitya34@...> wrote:
Just to add to what Manish has rightly pointed out PGPX is more like general management and Strategy in the same field you are in having said that,Its also excellent for Professionals who are from PSUs and Govt(IAS and others)
For example a Guy from NTPC(NPCIL) can easily be absorbed into GMR,Reliance Energy with 2 times his current CTC. Overall, PGPX is Great value addition and is a MUST for stagnating career/field its also great for networking skills
all the best for I/V regards Nityananda (@linkedin)
Overall i have understood that after PGPX one should try to stick to his industry and figure out a non CEO kind of role to aim at. This ensure that you will get hired quickly during placements and with some % increase in salary. If changing carrer e.g. IT to investment banker is a desire then 2 yr MBA is suited and starting salary may not be higher than what u were making before. overall its good to do PGPX but keep ur expectations really really grounded.
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all
curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the
salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@ ...> wrote:
> > This is a very dangerous question. > > I have asked this question to several people and answers are not very encouraging. > > You should not worry about placements
and roles till ur interview. > > From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX.
Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp. > > To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are
very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme. > > I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-)
> > -- > Manish Gulati > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote: > > From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910]
Question about placements > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM >
> > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a general question about the placements. All information > provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the > kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any
information on > this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any > definite information. May be I missed something ? > > For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in
the > IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX? > > thanks in advance. > > Srinivas >
There will always be apprehensions for a new course. As long as it is IIM's i am not much worried. Obviously there will be inclination towards continuing in IT both from the companies and me as I dont want to lose the 11 years experience. As it is if I worry about this now, I will not be able to do justice to the interview. I am also applying for INSEAD and LBS to keep other options open.
Bansi
----- Original Message ---- From: kapil burman <burmank@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:08:31 PM Subject: Re: [iimapgpx200910] Re: Question about placements
Suggestion: Check for "PGPX" profiles in linkedin. Not a very promising story.
----- Original Message ---- From: ksk21 <ksk21@yahoo. com> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:07:30 PM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Re: Question about placements
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@ ...> wrote: > > This is a very dangerous question. > > I have asked this question to several people and answers are not very encouraging. >
> You should not worry about placements and roles till ur interview. > > From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX. Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp. > > To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme. > > I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-) > > -- > Manish Gulati > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote: > > From:
ksk21 <ksk21@...> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Question about placements > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM > > > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a general question about the placements. All information > provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the > kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any information on > this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any > definite information. May be I missed something ? > > For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in the > IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX? > > thanks in advance. >
> Srinivas >
Hi Jeffrey as you know me but thought of writing to this eminent group(Must be busy with I/V prep now)
I have interacted with many guys(ex IIM/ISB-ex and current student) in the last 2-3 yrs inside -outside linkedin forum also
It all depends on what you want but moving from say sales,IT to VP(Research), I banking -->not possible in One yr MBA(be it INSEAD or IIM)
advantage of INSEAD and London Biz school--->variety of Firms do visit them.
Private Equity to UNDP to NGO(for Social sector guys)
in IIM-A,they have started in this line(atkleast in PGP-PMP but will be done in 1-2 yrs) World bank as employer will visit soon. problem with PGPX is (atleast I feel)-70% Junta is from IT(may be from 10 different fields but all in IT Cos)
very few from I banking side(as the minm exp level is 6-7 yrs plus)
so less PE firms visit the campus
but it may change depending on the profile of the batch whatever happens ,one thing is sure, IIM-A and ISB will remain the best in its category
Hi guys, I am not part of this round of interviews but am keen on trying for PGPX next time round. To me this particular qustion (type of roles after PGPX) is the most important one. I asked this question to a couple of passouts and current students of PGPX and mainly I was told that for IT guys, most of the roles would be in the pre-sales and business development area. There is very less scope for an IT guy to completely change careers by doing a PGPX.
Cheers, J.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Nityananda Mukherjee <nitya34@...> wrote:
Just to add to what Manish has rightly pointed out PGPX is more like general management and Strategy in the same field you are in having said that,Its also excellent for Professionals who are from PSUs and Govt(IAS and others)
For example a Guy from NTPC(NPCIL) can easily be absorbed into GMR,Reliance Energy with 2 times his current CTC. Overall, PGPX is Great value addition and is a MUST for stagnating career/field its also great for networking skills
all the best for I/V regards Nityananda (@linkedin)
Overall i have understood that after PGPX one should try to stick to his industry and figure out a non CEO kind of role to aim at. This ensure that you will get hired quickly during placements and with some % increase in salary. If changing carrer e.g. IT to investment banker is a desire then 2 yr MBA is suited and starting salary may not be higher than what u were making before. overall its good to do PGPX but keep ur expectations really really grounded.
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all
curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the
salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@ ...> wrote:
> > This is a very dangerous question. > > I have asked this question to several people and answers are not very encouraging. > > You should not worry about placements
and roles till ur interview. > > From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX.
Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp. > > To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are
very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme. > > I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-)
> > -- > Manish Gulati > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote: > > From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910]
Question about placements > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM >
> > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a general question about the placements. All information > provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the > kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any
information on > this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any > definite information. May be I missed something ? > > For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in
the > IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX? > > thanks in advance. > > Srinivas >
Hi guys, I am not part of this round of interviews but am keen on trying for PGPX next time round. To me this particular qustion (type of roles after PGPX) is the most important one. I asked this question to a couple of passouts and current students of PGPX and mainly I was told that for IT guys, most of the roles would be in the pre-sales and business development area. There is very less scope for an IT guy to completely change careers by doing a PGPX.
Cheers, J.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Nityananda Mukherjee <nitya34@...> wrote:
Just to add to what Manish has rightly pointed out PGPX is more like general management and Strategy in the same field you are in having said that,Its also excellent for Professionals who are from PSUs and Govt(IAS and others)
For example a Guy from NTPC(NPCIL) can easily be absorbed into GMR,Reliance Energy with 2 times his current CTC. Overall, PGPX is Great value addition and is a MUST for stagnating career/field its also great for networking skills
all the best for I/V regards Nityananda (@linkedin)
Overall i have understood that after PGPX one should try to stick to his industry and figure out a non CEO kind of role to aim at. This ensure that you will get hired quickly during placements and with some % increase in salary. If changing carrer e.g. IT to investment banker is a desire then 2 yr MBA is suited and starting salary may not be higher than what u were making before. overall its good to do PGPX but keep ur expectations really really grounded.
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all
curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the
salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@ ...> wrote:
> > This is a very dangerous question. > > I have asked this question to several people and answers are not very encouraging. > > You should not worry about placements
and roles till ur interview. > > From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX.
Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp. > > To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are
very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme. > > I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-)
> > -- > Manish Gulati > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote: > > From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910]
Question about placements > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM >
> > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a general question about the placements. All information > provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the > kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any
information on > this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any > definite information. May be I missed something ? > > For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in
the > IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX? > > thanks in advance. > > Srinivas >
Just to add to what Manish has rightly pointed out PGPX is more like general management and Strategy in the same field you are in having said that,Its also excellent for Professionals who are from PSUs and Govt(IAS and others)
For example a Guy from NTPC(NPCIL) can easily be absorbed into GMR,Reliance Energy with 2 times his current CTC. Overall, PGPX is Great value addition and is a MUST for stagnating career/field its also great for networking skills
all the best for I/V regards Nityananda (@linkedin)
Overall i have understood that after PGPX one should try to stick to his industry and figure out a non CEO kind of role to aim at. This ensure that you will get hired quickly during placements and with some % increase in salary. If changing carrer e.g. IT to investment banker is a desire then 2 yr MBA is suited and starting salary may not be higher than what u were making before. overall its good to do PGPX but keep ur expectations really really grounded.
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all
curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the
salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@ ...> wrote:
> > This is a very dangerous question. > > I have asked this question to several people and answers are not very encouraging. > > You should not worry about placements
and roles till ur interview. > > From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX.
Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp. > > To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are
very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme. > > I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-)
> > -- > Manish Gulati > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote: > > From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910]
Question about placements > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM >
> > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a general question about the placements. All information > provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the > kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any
information on > this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any > definite information. May be I missed something ? > > For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in
the > IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX? > > thanks in advance. > > Srinivas >
Overall i have understood that after PGPX one should try to stick to his industry and figure out a non CEO kind of role to aim at. This ensure that you will get hired quickly during placements and with some % increase in salary. If changing carrer e.g. IT to investment banker is a desire then 2 yr MBA is suited and starting salary may not be higher than what u were making before. overall its good to do PGPX but keep ur expectations really really grounded.
all the best for iw folks.
--
Manish Gulati
--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote:
From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Re: Question about placements To: iimapgpx200910@... Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 8:37 AM
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati <manish_gulati@ ...> wrote: > > This is a very dangerous question. > > I have asked this question to several people and answers are not very encouraging. > > You should not worry about placements
and roles till ur interview. > > From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX. Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp. > > To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme. > > I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-) > > -- > Manish Gulati > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote: > > From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> > Subject: [iimapgpx200910]
Question about placements > To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM > > > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a general question about the placements. All information > provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the > kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any information on > this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any > definite information. May be I missed something ? > > For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in the > IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX? > > thanks in advance. > > Srinivas >
Suggestion: Check for "PGPX" profiles in linkedin. Not a very promising story.
----- Original Message ---- From: ksk21 <ksk21@...> To: iimapgpx200910@... Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:07:30 PM Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Re: Question about placements
Thanks for the reply. I know it is a dangerous question :-) I have
asked it even before I applied for PGPX. As you say, it is not a
question anyone seems to be interested in answering accurately.
I am not letting it affect my interview prep. But, we are all
curious, right? :-)
On a serious note, when people with 8-10 yrs of exp are taking time
off for PGPX, I think they should be given this info. After all, the
roles we can expect post PGPX can be as great an incentive as the
salary increases.
Srinivas
--- In iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in, Manish Gulati
<manish_gulati@ ...> wrote:
>
> This is a very dangerous question.
>
> I have asked this question to several people and answers are not
very encouraging.
>
> You should not worry about placements and roles till ur interview.
>
> From interview perspective, you should not expect big industry
change after this programme. For e.g.: after spending 8 yrs in IT in
specific function you wont be given P&L to manage after the PGPX.
Probably u can become consultant in McKinsey etc. Salary expectation
should not be more than 25-30 for 9-10 yrs exp.
>
> To my surprise, i have seen top execs think ISB is better than
PGPX. I have not applied to ISB thinking its for kids and execs are
very clear about the diff between PGPX and IIMA's 2 yr programme.
>
> I told you to not try to get answers to these difficult questions
till ur iw is over :-) U may not like what you will hear :-)
>
> --
> Manish Gulati
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ksk21 <ksk21@...> wrote:
>
> From: ksk21 <ksk21@...>
> Subject: [iimapgpx200910] Question about placements
> To: iimapgpx200910@ yahoogroups. co.in
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:35 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a general question about the placements. All information
> provided by IIM is avgs, max min etc. I was more interested in the
> kind of roles people got post MBA. Does anyone have any
information on
> this? I have been asking a few folks but no one seems to have any
> definite information. May be I missed something ?
>
> For example, I have 8.5 yrs exp (incl 2 US and 10 mo in europe) in
the
> IT industry. What kind of roles can I expect post PGPX?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> Srinivas
>
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