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Re: [indiansciencefiction] Re: Mahatma with mobile!

Not being much into the technical dimension of the sci- fi, I am not really deep into the discussions but it's obvious that the members are enjoying and extracting valuable knowledge from Mr. Troyer's rich kitty.  Sci-fi, in its academic aspect, is a territory less treaded in India and such discussions will definitely encourage people tgo take its academic aspects also more seriously.
 
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Gene van Troyer <gevantry@...> wrote:
Yes, of course. Recursion in SF simply means SF that that in some way refers to other SF, SF authors, fans, conventions, and the like. A good example of this is the American SF movie Time After Time, in which H.G. Wells and Jack the Ripper are characters. Jack the Ripper, who is a respected surgeon, is a member of Wells's circle of intellectual friends, where he comes to learn of Wells's invention of a time machine. When he is about to be exposed by the police, Jack attempts to steal the time machine, and in the struggle to stop him, both Wells and the Ripper are transported to 1976 USA. Jack falls out of the time bubble just as the time machine materializes in a San Francisco museum that is having an H.G. Wells special exhibition on loan from the British Museum. Jack begins a killing spree among San Francisco prostitutes, and H.G. Wells sets out to track him down. At the same time, he must avoid the police, who think he is the Ripper because he knows so much about the Ripper's methods.

Wells, of course, was a Victorian era gentleman, and was quite the anachronism in 1976 San Francisco, with his sense of manners contrasted with with the libertine mores of the Americans around him.

Cheers,

Gene van Troyer

arvind mishra wrote:
Could in any conceivable form a recursive sf contain anachronistic elements Gene ?
I have some vague idea and want you to elaborate please.




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Zeashan, Gene has elaborated these concepts nicely but if you wish to delve deep into the matter you could see the following links and also go for cross...
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Not being much into the technical dimension of the sci- fi, I am not really deep into the discussions but it's obvious that the members are enjoying and...
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Thanks Gene, Having heard this from Gene,could I dare to ask VMT regarding his own personal experience about the incidence when he himself was shown as a...
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Dear Arvind jee I had missed this E mail earlier, somehow! Indeed it was a very pleasant surprise to find Air Vice Marshal Vishwa Mohan Tiwari in a novel as a...
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"Indeed it was a very pleasant surprise to find Air Vice Marshal Vishwa Mohan Tiwari in a novel as a character interacting with other fictional ones.." VMT ...
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Arvind jee Kamaleshwar was a learned writer or novelist, unlike many other. He used to read foriegn literture as well. Though he never mentioned to me about...
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Yes,I agree with you Tiwaree jee ,Kamleshwar would have accessed such developments in contemporary world classics ! arvind ... politeness, I am sure he knew...
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I guess it's an honour and as iwaree jee belongs to this forum, we all can bask in (reflected) glory! Such inclusion indicates that the person is...
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Dr Nautial Jee Bahut bahut dhanyawaad for your kind remarks. I remember that you had written a review of my book 'Aanand Panchhee Nihaaran kaa'. May be you...
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Ms Gene van Trpyer, Thank you for maintaining the seriousness in our discussions in this small group. You bring out the depth that is hidden in a word like...
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You are quite right Dr.Nautial,Tiwaree ji is not only a bird man but has many more feathers to his his cap....
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As suggested by Tiwaree jee, I shall put up a brief review of his book on birds on this board (Anand panchhee nihaaran kaa) but may take a littl;e bit of...
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Dear Dr Nautial jee Dhanyawad. I am sure you are going to bringout the S&T essence of the book along with it's cultural soul. Punah Dhanyawaad. I am sure you...
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Tiwaree ji is not only a bird man but a knowledgeable aged owl to be more precise..... what an owlish appearance he possesses..We are proud of his...
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Please do post the review,we are eagerly awaiting it ....
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Thanks Tiwaree JI for these words of praise...though I must submit that I am very weak expressing in this foreign language... something may spontaneously...
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If we were to have a compilation of representative science fiction collection, which story'd you like to be included? This is addressed to all. CMN Arvind...
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I'm assuming that this compilation is not limited to science fiction by Indian writers - in that case, my choices would be a) A Walk in the Sun - Geoffrey A...
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Thanks Barua jee and Raman jee for responding. A good clarification is sought. May be we can add names in 3 categories- Indian/ Hindi and world. But let me...
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Dear Dr. Nautial, In the category of 'own' stories, would you like to include my story - ;Aawaaz' ? Is there a ategory for SFstories for children as well ? ...
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Sure, why not Tiwaree jee. I read and found it excellent. Yes, we could have a category for children also i.e. written for children and may be written by...
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Thank you Dr Nautial Vishwa Mohan Tiwari To: indiansciencefiction@...: cmnautiyal@...: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:27:50 +0000Subject:...
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Thank you Dr Nautial. It is better to catch them YOUNG. Vishwa Mohan Tiwari To: indiansciencefiction@...: cmnautiyal@...: Mon,...
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Thanks to DR.CMN for initiating this survey to find out the best Indian sf.But please clarify whether you want a list from each of us in context of our own...
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As I clarified in a subesquent post, both (and several others). CMN Arvind Mishra <dr_arvind3@...> wrote: Thanks to DR.CMN for initiating this...
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The new Australian Government has announced new moves to protect the right of researchers to speak out on their findings. The Minister issued the media release...
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Friends, "The new Australian Government has announced new moves to protect theright of researchers to speak out on their findings."Does annybody including the...
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A good initiative ! thanks for info CMN. arvind mishra --- On Mon, 25/2/08, CHANDRA MOHAN NAUTIYAL <cmnautiyal@...> wrote: From: CHANDRA MOHAN NAUTIYAL...
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Thanks Hrishi for the debut post ,NIGHT FALL is mine favourite too. But please do tell us if you like any Indian SF ? best, arvind...
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Hrishi,CMN,VMT,Raman,etc Let the show move on .... My favourite sf story - 'The last answer' by Issac Asimov .I like the story particularly because it has...
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