"In my opinion, you should not advise/ preach people about things related to
etiquette
(Swapnil jee should thank Anant jee, Dr Nautiyal should thank Gene and so on)
because it implies that you treat those people as etiquetteless or ,
if they were already doing it, uncomfortable or give an impression that ou are
dictating to them.
They should, but it should be their business. You shouldn't be dictating even
as moderator."...CMN said.


In my opinion no sensible and polite and civilized person can disagree with what
CMN has said, and
I thank him for taking this 'unpopular' but justified stand. CMN has not been
rude at all, and he need not feel concernd about it.

However I have noticed a special relationship between Arvind and Swapnil, Arvind
is treated like an elder brother by
Swapnil and Arvind treats him like a younger brother. Whether this should carry
on for longer period, is debatable.
CMN feels that it should not be carried on any longer, and I agree with CMN (
Who am I??)

Again ,however, the fact, that a person has translated another persons story in
another language, is a matter of celebration.
I feel Arvind was in this mood of celebration in which he told his younger
brother to celebrate and be nice about it.
From this perspetive, there is no crossing of boundaries by any one, unless
Swapnil feels otherwise. Let us celebrate, Thank you Anant jee for
the translation. Let us reciprocate if we can. Let this cross language
creativity increase.
On this forum we should create a magazine that inter alia, does this fuction as
well.
Let us create a multilingual E SF magazine.
And when a knowledgeable foriegner and a fine creative writer Gene (Thank you
Gene) sees in our behaviour on this forum, viz. 'no rudeness' and 'extra
politeness',
it has to be correct, at least, for two reasons. Firstly, he has a fresh
view. and secondly, he is unbiased, and not unnecessary polite.
Arvind, mostly, if at all, has been more polite than necessary, but since his
engine runs on emotional fuel,
he sometimes presses the 'throttle' more than required, but that is OK, indeed
welcome. It would be a pity
if emotions would not playing theior roles; and in a lighter vein, 'Kuchh
naheen to adaawat he sahee', as Ghalib has famously said!!

Friends forgive me, for what I have written, no for what I have been preaching.
Who am I to preach all such senior scientists and authors and thinkers??

Best wishes

Vishwa Mohan Tiwari




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To: indiansciencefiction@...
From: gevantry@...
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:19:42 +0900
Subject: [indiansciencefiction] Issues of Etiquette







Fellow list members,

I think most of us here have enough life experience to know when to practice
good manners, and to understand when someone is perhaps being rude. I actually
haven’t encountered any rudeness on this list, or perhaps I should say, I
haven’t seen any of what I would consider rudeness. Quite the opposite: there
seems to be an an almost excessive politeness. In as much as it is exceedingly
easy to misunderstand people’s intentions the text only, it is understandable
that some of us would take on very polite tones in the interest of avoiding
angry letter fights. I have seen flame wars, and they are terrible to behold. I
much prefer the politeness, even if it may seem at times a little over done.

Just so you know, it is unnecessary to thank me for anything I may post to this
list, and if I say something a little ignorant I fully expect someone to note it
(though gently, I hope). I am not offended if someone does not thank me.

Arvind Mishra is the list moderator, though, and it is his prerogative to act in
a moderatorish fashion. To this end, as one who has participated on panel
discussions at conferences, I get the sense that Arvind views postings to this
list as mini-panel discussions with his role being to act as moderator to thank
participants, summarize what has been said, and to encourage some additional
discussion with probing questions—just like a good moderator at a symposium or
conference panel discussion. Since this is actually an e-mail list, this formal
panel discussion structure may be a little off-putting from time to time.

Just some thoughts I’m putting out.

Cheers,

Gene van Troyer
----
"(You Are Here) Topquark" in Strange Horizons:
http://www.strangehorizons.com/2008/20080421/topquark-p.shtml









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