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RE: [indiansciencefiction] Under Estimate

Z Z g
You said, " And that micro body was created only when a person goes into a generating machine".
Here  creation of a micro body has been stated which as per my understanding needs the qualities of a different person to be ingrained, characerestics to be given, past historical info needs to be given etc.
 I had said as a story it is catchy and interesting except that it is closer to sci fantasy than to SF.
Do you disagree with this statemnent?
Best wishes
vmt


 
Vishwa Mohan Tiwari



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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:40:03 -0700
Subject: RE: [indiansciencefiction] Under Estimate

VMT Ji,

 

The story never said that induction “stored” into the Micro Body, but it said that the body is controlled by the induction phenomenon. And that micro body was created only when a person goes into a generating machine. That is rule of continuous connectivity never be violated.

Secondly since there is a mediator machine between the source and the micro body so there is no question of 4th power law or inverse square law.
 
Regards
Zeashan Zaidi


--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Vishwa Mohan Tiwari <onevishwa@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Vishwa Mohan Tiwari <onevishwa@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [indiansciencefiction] Under Estimate
To: indiansciencefiction@yahoogroups.co.in
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 12:26 PM

Dear ZZ
Sorry to say there is a strong violation of physical laws as known today.
Induction is dynamic phenomenon.
It cannot be stored into a 'socalled MICRO body'. If stored it would cease to be dynamic chich means a continuous coonectivity with the source . Further it follows inverse 4th power law, not inverse square law, resulting into heavy loss of signal with distance.
Induction does generate an opposing force, a fact you have utilized very well.
 
Vishwa Mohan Tiwari



To: indiansciencefictio n@yahoogroups. co.in
From: zeashanzaidi@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:44:11 -0700
Subject: RE: [indianscienceficti on] Under Estimate


VMT Ji,

I am agreeing with you. Of course, my concept is beyond the current limit of science. But as the main motive of science fiction is to look upon future possibilities based on present scientific discoveries, and the story fulfils this condition.

My question is, 'is there any violation of present scientific concepts in the story?’ If ‘not’ then it is a science fiction.

 

Zeashan Zaidi

 



--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Vishwa Mohan Tiwari <onevishwa@hotmail. com> wrote:
From: Vishwa Mohan Tiwari <onevishwa@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [indianscienceficti on] Under Estimate
To: indiansciencefictio n@yahoogroups. co.in
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 10:04 PM

Z Zee
I need to clarify what I meant. I didn't say what you have stated is impossible,
I said it lacks credibility, in the sense the phenomenon of induction has been stretched beyond the known limits of science , I may say to the level of fantasy.
Your story may be a science fantasy but not science fiction.
I would be very happy if I turnout  to be WRONG.
I could have kept Quiet or praised it to the sky, but I  felt the truth must be spoken, of course truth as I perceive it.

 I am sorry if I have offended you.
Vishwa Mohan Tiwari



To: indiansciencefictio n@yahoogroups. co.in
From: zeashanzaidi@ yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:19:43 -0700
Subject: RE: [indianscienceficti on] Under Estimate


VMT Ji,
Thank you for comments.

"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. "

Arthur C. Clarke,


 
Zeashan Zaidi

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Vishwa Mohan Tiwari <onevishwa@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: Vishwa Mohan Tiwari <onevishwa@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [indianscienceficti on] Under Estimate
To: indiansciencefictio n@yahoogroups. co.in
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:27 PM

Z zee,
This story has got storyness all right but totally incredible to my science trained mind.
You have got a forcefull style, but not enough science in the story.
Sorry
vmt


 
Vishwa Mohan Tiwari



To: indiansciencefictio n@yahoogroups. co.in
From: zeashanzaidi@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 05:08:23 -0700
Subject: [indianscienceficti on] Under Estimate


Friends,

 

Since this is a group of Indian science fiction. So after some gap there need a science fiction story here. So my story published in the latest issue of “Vigyan Katha” is forwarded here. Title - “Under Estimate”.

 

Zeashan Zaidi




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I have already read rather cleared the story for publication in Vigyan katha ,A typical Zeashan style story !But then what is Zeashan style ? AN ENTHRALLING...
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Under Estimate The above captioned science fantasy of Zeashan is an attempt to rationalize whether a man could leave its body and travel beyond in its...
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Z zee, This story has got storyness all right but totally incredible to my science trained mind. You have got a forcefull style, but not enough science in the...
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Dear Swapnil,   Some of your points of objection are regarding style of the story. Therefore no comment. And other objections are not actually lying in the...
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Obviously by Zeashan on your rejoinder ! ... -- arvind mishra Obviously by Zeashan on your rejoinder ! On 30/06/2008, swapnil BHARTIYA < arnieswap@... >...
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Res VMT Ji, Which story are you talking about? Zeeshan's Under Estimate or Mine Rhythm Of Nature? Swapnil ... extremely busy schedule, to read the story. ... ...
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Z Zee I need to clarify what I meant. I didn't say what you have stated is impossible, I said it lacks credibility, in the sense the phenomenon of induction...
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VMT Ji, I am agreeing with you. Of course, my concept is beyond the current limit of science. But as the main motive of science fiction is to look upon future...
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Dear ZZ Sorry to say there is a strong violation of physical laws as known today. Induction is dynamic phenomenon. It cannot be stored into a 'socalled MICRO...
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VMT Ji,   The story never said that induction “stored” into the Micro Body, but it said that the body is controlled by the induction phenomenon. And that...
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Z Z g You said, " And that micro body was created only when a person goes into a generating machine". Here creation of a micro body has been stated which as...
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VMT Ji, Good day in USA This time we can say it is closer to science fantasy. But it is my forecast that within 20 years, the human will be able to create his...
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Respected VMT Ji and ZZ ji May I interrupt u sirs, not twenty years from now, its in front of u . Pof Yamanaka from Quoto university in Japan has done it. He...
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