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Re: [indiansciencefiction] Re: Indian Word for Astronaut?

 Is not Antrikshak more of a jaw twister type of word giving connotation of a rakshas ie  demon ?


2008/11/1 manofsan <manofsan@...>

Personally, I lean towards antarikshak over vyomak, since the latter
sounds too brief, almost like slang. Vyomak also reminds me of that
sci-fi TV show, Captain Vyom, which starred Milind Soman.
Antarikshak sounds a little more meaty/weighty/substantive, like
'astronaut' vs 'spaceman'.

--- In indiansciencefiction@..., "arvind mishra"


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> --- In indiansciencefiction@..., Vishwa Mohan Tiwari
> <onevishwa@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Friends
> > Vyomak is shorter than Antariksjak and that is its advantage.
> > Vyom is not half as commonly used as Antariksh, although in
> Maraathee and may be in Telugu it may be little more common.
> > It is always more difficult to dispalce a word already in use. One
> may make a word, and if it does not take off, then the purpose is not
> served.
> > If Vyomak does not trake off, 'astronaut' would.
> > There are better chances for Antarikshak to succeed in replacing
> astronaut, than vyomak would have.
> > You may not get an association of vyomak with 'ahamak' meaning
> weird; I did get it when I first wrote my letter, and hence I did not
> include vyomak it in my suggestion. And antarikshak has an association
> with 'rakshak' meaning a defender. Associations are important in a
> language becuase they act subconsciously.
> >
> > Antariksha has been already adopted by the space enthusiasts in
> India, so antarikshak has a head start.
> >
> > best wishes
> >
> > Vishwa Mohan Tiwari
> >
> > To: indiansciencefiction@: cmnautiyal@: Thu, 30 Oct 2008
> 05:00:16 +0000Subject: Re: [indiansciencefiction] Re: Indian Word for
> Astronaut?
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Patairiya suggestion is excellent. Vyoma has the necessary
> depth of space. It's short. Vyon vihari sounded a bit old- fashioned
> even to me while suggesting it though I was keen to use Vyom. I think
> the issue is clinched but of curse others are welcome to comment.
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> [indiansciencefiction] Re: Indian Word for Astronaut?To:
> indiansciencefiction@: Thursday, 30 October, 2008, 10:14 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Vyomak is an excellent word, as Vyom Sena
> > and similar words are already common in Hindi.
> > People will quickly pick up the word once a couple
> > of writers use it.
> >
> > Johnson C. Philip
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: arvind mishra
> > To: indiansciencefictio n@yahoogroups. co.in
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [indianscienceficti on] Re: Indian Word for Astronaut?
> >
> >
> > Dear Friends,I have just received a new term as an insight from
> Dr.Manoj Patairiya ,President,Indian Science Writers Association and
> that is Vyomak !And this too sounds beautiful as it is very concise
> but understandable even by a lay person of Indai .Gene's suggestion is
> also intelligeble and we could go for it as is also endorsed by
> Manofsan.But I have instantaneously developed a liking for Vyomak and
> would like to use it in my Hindi sf stories which are in
> pipelines.Arvind mishra
> > 2008/10/30 Gene van Troyer <gevantry@nirai. ne.jp>
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > On 10/30/08 12:10 PM, "manofsan" <manofsan@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well, then why not go for 'astronaut' while speaking to
> internationalaudiences, just so we don't look pretentious, and then
> use'antarikshak' for home usage in India.Indeed, in Indian languages
> use your appropriate Indian term which is certain to stimulate more
> sense of wonder at home, as well as pride and excitement. When talking
> to English speakers, translate the term to either astronaut or
> cosmonaut (personally, I've always liked cosmonaut), whichever suits
> you. Both terms are interchangeable in English, even though one comes
> to us from Russian."Antarikshak" has a nice ring to it, by the
> way.Cheers,Gene van Troyer -- arvind mishra
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Hi all, Some are trying coin 'gaganaut' as the Indian word for astronaut. Frankly, I don't like the sound of it. I think we need to look around for superior...
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'gaganaut'-its really ridiculous and rubbish.Why not stick to NABHYAATREE or Antrikshyaatri which are already in usage. But if you have some longing for the...
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Why to use naut? Just coz it comes from the West? What's next? Antriksh ship? Arnie ... A ... -- Swapnil Bhartiya Assistant Editor EFYTimes.com *I use LINUX,...
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... what's wrong with Antriksh Yatri?? Arnie ... -- Swapnil Bhartiya Assistant Editor EFYTimes.com *I use LINUX, what do you use? *...
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... The term ³gaga² in my neck of the English speaking would has a decided counter-productive meaning. From the Oxford Dictionary of American English: gaga: ...
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Yes, I agree, when I hear the word 'gaganaut', I think of the english slang word 'gaga', or even the word 'gag' Someone had suggested the word 'brahmanaut',...
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Hey Gene ,How do you do -Diwali Greetings ! Arvind ... -- arvind mishra...
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Vyom Viharee? Not very peotic or sweet- sounding but a possihility nevertheless. CMN Vyom Viharee?   Not very sweet but an option.   CMN   ... From: swapnil...
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Friends A number of words have been suggested for 'Astronaut' and each one has some merit, even Gagannaut has, provided you spell it correctly with double 'n'....
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Good analysis by Respected VMT .Now isn't it a time to conclude the discussion and choose a befitting word for all concerned practical purposes? arvind mishra ...
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Oct 29, 2008
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Well, then why not go for 'astronaut' while speaking to international audiences, just so we don't look pretentious, and then use 'antarikshak' for home usage...
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Oct 30, 2008
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... Indeed, in Indian languages use your appropriate Indian term which is certain to stimulate more sense of wonder at home, as well as pride and excitement....
Gene van Troyer
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Dear Friends, I have just received a new term as an insight from Dr.Manoj Patairiya ,President,Indian Science Writers Association and that is Vyomak !And this ...
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I also ditto and it has nothing to do with the fact that I have suggested 'vyom vihari' earlier.  Ofcourse, the decision may not be by instant votes.   ...
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*Thanks CMN for your kind DEEPAAVALEE/DIWALI (the festival of lights) greetings to all the members of the group *.It would have been really my privilege to...
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Antarikshak is a good choice.  Antarikshs is already popular also (otherwise 'ant' would have conveyed a different meaning). cmn ... From: manofsan...
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Antarikshak is a good choice.  Antarikshs is already popular also (otherwise 'ant' would have conveyed a different meaning). cmn Dr. Chandra Mohan Nautiyal ...
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vyom viharee is a good option but search may still continue..... thanks cmn arvind mishra ... From: CHANDRA MOHAN NAUTIYAL <cmnautiyal@...> Subject:...
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Still, we should want to coin a phrase that can resonate around the world, and not just among ourselves. It's about starting a lexicon, here. ... ...
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Vyomak is an excellent word, as Vyom Sena and similar words are already common in Hindi. People will quickly pick up the word once a couple of writers use it. ...
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Dr. Patairiya suggestion is excellent.  Vyoma has the necessary depth of space.  It's short.  Vyon vihari sounded a bit old- fashioned even to me while...
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Dr. Patairiya suggestion is excellent.  Vyoma has the necessary depth of space.  It's short.  Vyon vihari sounded a bit old- fashioned even to me while...
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Friends Vyomak is shorter than Antariksjak and that is its advantage. Vyom is not half as commonly used as Antariksh, although in Maraathee and may be in...
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... Maraathee and may be in Telugu it may be little more common. ... may make a word, and if it does not take off, then the purpose is not served. ... ...
arvind mishra
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Nov 1, 2008
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Personally, I lean towards antarikshak over vyomak, since the latter sounds too brief, almost like slang. Vyomak also reminds me of that sci-fi TV show,...
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Is not Antrikshak more of a jaw twister type of word giving connotation of a rakshas ie demon ? 2008/11/1 manofsan <manofsan@...> ... -- arvind mishra...
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Well, Antrikshak has the same number of syllables as Astronaut. To me, it seems no more difficult to pronounce, and seems to roll off the tongue in a similar...
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So its finally resolved now that for domestic purposes we could encourage the use of term Antrikshak . Thanks a lot Manofsan for initiating this very valuable...
Arvind Mishra
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Some more suggestions have also come offline ,one by Ms. Swati Bute who has just been awarded a Ph.D in science communication .According to her the word...
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