The most recent version of this essay can be found at
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Linux_PR/newlug.html.

Recipe for a Successful Linux User Group
by Rick Moen

See the full essay online ****** Really good. -FN

1. You need a Web page.
2. Your Web page needs a reasonable URL.
3. You need a regular meeting location.
4. You need a regular meeting time.
5. You need to avoid meeting-time conflicts.
6. You need to make sure that meetings happen as advertised, without fail.
7. You need a core of several Linux enthusiasts.
8. Your core volunteers need out-of-band methods of communication.
9. You need to get on the main lists of LUGs, and keep your entries accurate.
      *  http://www.ssc.com/glue/
      * http://lugww.counter.li.org/
      * http://nlug.org/webring/
      * http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/LUG/
      * http://www.linux.org/groups/
      * http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/
      * http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Software/
Operating_Systems/Unix/Linux/User_Groups/

10. You must have login access to maintain your Web pages, as needed.
11. Design your Web page to be forgiving of deferred maintenance.
12. Always include the day of the week, when you cite event dates. Always check
that day of the week, first, using gcal [2]  (or cal). gcal is your friend.
13. Place time-sensitive and key information prominently near the top of your
main Web page.
14. Include maps and directions to your events.
15. Emphasise on your main page that your meeting will be free of charge and
open to the public (if it is).
16. You'll want to include an RSVP "mailto" hyperlink, on some events.
17. Use referral pages.
18. Make sure every page has a revision date and maintainer link.
19. Check all links, at intervals.
20. You may want to consider establishing a LUG mailing list.
21. You don't need to be in the Internet Service Provider business.
22. Don't go into any other business, either.
23. Walk the walk.

LUG checklist.

The following checklist may be useful for your group, once established.

1. Web page:

a. Meetings:
[ ] Current meeting info? Is it prominent?
[ ] Day of the week? Beginning time? Ending time?
[ ] Double-checked day/date matches against a calendar?
(E.g., is the "Friday, March 28" you listed an error, because the 28th is a
Thursday?)
[ ] Location?
[ ] Map?
[ ] Directions (car, public transit)? Parking tips?
[ ] Information on the next several meetings?
[ ] RSVP mailto link on meetings where this is needed?
[ ] Note that meetings are free and open to the public (if they are)?
[ ] If there's a special fee, is it disclosed next to the event listing?
[ ] If location / time / date formula has changed recently, is this noted
prominently?
[ ] Have you checked for event conflicts with other nearby groups, or with
holidays?

b. General:
[ ] Includes event date-formulas (e.g., 4th Tuesdays)? Prominently?
[ ] Maintainer mailto link?
[ ] Last-revised date?

c. Periodically (maybe every quarter):
[ ] Checked all links on your site for dead links?
[ ] Checked your Web server's logs for pages requested but not found? (You'll
want to put a referral page at that URL.)
[ ] Read all your Web content attentively for outdated content?

2. Other, periodical:
[ ] Reviewed/updated all LUG lists that have entries concerning your group?
[ ] Reviewed all sites that link to yours? Advised their webmasters of needed
corrections?

Last revised: 2003-08-04

Having seen (and run) quite a few Linux user groups (LUGs), and observed some
thrive and others die, I can hazard some firm recommendations. If you're
thinking of starting a LUG, or are running one now, please ponder these
lessons, drawn from other LUGs' experience. In fact, please consider reviewing
this list from time to time, as a kind of checklist.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
d88888b d8b   db   Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa India
88'     888o  88   f r e d @ b y t e s f o r a l l . o r g
88ooo   88V8o 88   http://www.bytesforall.org * http://fn.swiki.net
88~~~   88 V8o88   Phone 0091.832.2409490 Mobile 09822 122436
88      88  V888   784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Sonarbhat Saligao Goa 403511
YP      VP   V8P   Writing ... with a difference, on issues that matter

Issue 2 of Free Software Magazine is finally out! Download your PDF copy for
free from http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com

Contents...

o EDITORIAL / Your part-time job
    The trials and tribulations of being a "computer person"

o FOCUS / The history and future of SMTP
    by Kirk Strauser
    SMTP's adaptation to a hostile Internet

o Filtering spam with postfix
    by Kirk Strauser
    Effective ways to reduce unwelcome mail

o Mail servers: resolving the identity crisis
    by John Locke
    How to get Dspam, Postfix, and Procmail to play well together

o TECH WORLD / Poking at ITunes
    by Chris J Karr
    A developer's guide to the iTunes platform

o Why free IT management tools are gaining traction
    by Will Winkelstein
    Enterprises are increasingly receptive to free software alternatives for
    IT management.

o CASE STUDY: Mythic Beasts
    By Tony Mobily
    A small company specialised in Linux servers and amazing support

o Interview with Bernhard Reiter at aKademy
    by Tom Chance
    What we can do to promote the future of free software

o Hard passwords made easy
    by John Locke
    Creating strong memorable passwords using mnemonic devices and
    word lists

o WORD WORLD / The FUD-based Encyclopedia
    by Aaron Krowne
    Dismantling fear, uncertainity, and doubt, aimed at Wikipedia
    and other free knowledge resources.

o Guerrilla marketing
    by Tom Chance
    Part one: promoting community projects in the marketplace

o A law for free software
    by Maureen O'Sullivan
    Don't we have enough laws already?

o The Libre Culture Manifesto
    by David M Berry, Giles Moss
    A manifesto for free/libre culture

o Richard Stallman's blog
    by Richard Stallman
    Selected entries from Richard's blog (http://agia.fsf.org/rms-blog)
    from November 2004 to December 2004.

75 PGS * WORLD-CLASS PRINTING, GET-UP * A DOWNLOAD AWAY * unbelievable?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Frederick Noronha (FN)                    Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia
Freelance Journalist                      P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
http://fn.swiki.net                       http://fn-floss.notlong.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your
vocation. --Aristotle

There was a profesional version of Suse 9.2 that was given on a promotional
offer.Is it possible to give it on an evaluation basis?Plus if invest in this,
what kind of a support is possible?
Thanks!

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 05:20:52 -0700, Sandesh Aggarwal <SAGGARWAL@...>
wrote:

> you can buy directly from us SuSE Linux professional 9.2 :Rs. 4408 +
> taxes
>Regards
>Sandesh Aggarwal
> Manager - Business Development
> Onward Novell Software (I) Pvt.  ltd.
> 22, LSC , Pushp Vihar
> Madangir, New Delhi - 62
> Ph. No : 011- 29052642/29053645
> Mobile : 9810409942
>" If You find Education Expensive . Try Ignorance "
>About Novell
> Novell, Inc. (Nasdaq: NOVL) is a leading provider of information
> solutions that deliver secure identity management (Novell Nsure), Web
> application development (Novell exteNd) and cross-platform networking
> services (Novell Nterprise), all supported by strategic consulting and
> professional services (Novell Ngage). Active in the open source
> community with its Ximian and SUSE LINUX brands, Novell provides a full
> range of Linux products and services for the enterprise, from the
> desktop to the server. Novell's vision of one Net -- a world without
> information boundaries -- helps customers realize the value of their
> information securely and economically. For more information visit
> http://www.novell.com . Press should visit
> http://www.novell.com/pressroom .
>
>
>>>> deol_ranjodh@... 2/18/2005 1:08:52 PM >>>
>
>
>
> Hi every body, I am new to linux....... I need SuseLinux Pro9.2 can
> anybody help me......... Please ..........
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



--
Opera-The Ferrari of Internet

Hi every body, I am new to linux....... I need SuseLinux Pro9.2 can
anybody help me......... Please ..........

Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

Hi every body, I am new to linux....... I need SuseLinux Pro9.2 can
anybody help me......... Please ..........

hi
this is ashish
and i have a lot of interest on linux,
just wanted to know wht books to get hold for kernel programming and
the likes,
thnx for your help,
yours
ashish
sliet,longowal

Hello Friends,

My name is Pradeep Chakravarty, am working in the MIS dept of a
semiconductor manufacturing company. I'm basically a database
programmer but as u know in todays environment one has to have multi
skill set and has to do multi job works. So we have to do everything
from Laying lan cables to making application programs for different
depts to making reports to managing a database server and the Email
and internet proxy server.

The office Email and Internet Proxy server is on Linux (Redhat Ver
9.0).Kernel ver i am not aware of.

Hardware is a P4, 2 GHz, 128 MB RAM, 40 GB HDD.

Present Linux Skill Level is between Beginner & User.

Objective is to increase it to Power User and implement LAMP in my
company... hence the subscription to this group, to interact with
like minded people like you.

Thanx

PC

Issue 1 Volume 1 of this new magazine has just hit the (cyber)stands. And,
don't be too surprised, you're free to download a copy too of this 78-page
publication. Some of the articles in the first issue:

 	 o File formats; format wars (Marco Fioretti)
 	   File formats: the past, the present, a possible future

 	 o XML: The answer to everything? (Kay Ethier, Scott Abel)
 	   This article weighs the pros and cons of XML for some
 	   applciations (publishing) and explores why it is the
  	   best possible solution for many programming and
 	   publishing needs.

 	 o Free file formats and the future of intellectual
   	   freedom (Terry Hancock)
 	   Information as property may be served by closed
 	   file formats, but the freedom of information
 	   requires free formats.

 	 o Creating the Free Software Magazine (Tony Mobily)
 	   A long path that takes us to the very beginning
 	   of this project.

 	 o Mac OS X: Welcome to the jungle -- a look inside the
 	   Mac OS X software ecology (Chris J Karr)

 	 o The magic of live CDs (Harish Pillay)
 	   What are live CDs, and how do they work?

 	 o Every engineer's checklist for justifying
 	   Free Software. It's not just about 'no licence fees'
 	   (Malcolm D Spence)

 	 o Smarter password management (John Locke)
 	   How to handle your passwords without getting lost

 	 o The content tail wags the IT dog (Daniel James)
  	   Without hardware and software, there would be
 	   nothing for digital media to be created on, or used
 	   with. And yet the content industry attempts to tell
 	   the far larger IT industry what it can and cannot do.

 	 o Motivation and value of free resources. Wikipedia
 	   and Planetmath show the way (Aaron E Klemm)

 	 o It's all about freedom (Christian Einfeldt)
 	   Freedom is free software's competitive advantage.

 	 o The Commons (Dave M Berry)
 	   The Commons as an Idea -- Ideas as a Commons

 	 o Let's not forget our roots (Free Software is not
 	   just about cost or stability; it's a movement that
 	   mustn't forget the principles which made it possible)
 	   Tom Chance.

A PLANT NEEDS WATER TO GROW! Free Software Magazine -- by subscribing you
will be supporting a magazine which believes in Free Software. All our
articles are released under the GNU free documentation license, enhancing
existing information on Free Software.

Download your copy today from http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com
Subscriptions open!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Frederick Noronha (FN)                    Nr Convent Saligao 403511
GoaIndia
Freelance Journalist                      P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
http://fn.swiki.net                       http://fn-floss.notlong.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://goabooks.swiki.net * Reviews of books on Goa... and more

[Commercial]

Dear Linux enthusiasts,

LINUX For You: The Complete Magazine on Open Source.
LINUX For You's January issue is now on stands, it has a lot of
content which the
community would like to get their hands on.

PRESENTING THE NEW IMPROVED 'LINUX For You'

*There is a complete guide for Newbies titled 'Newbies guide'. As
explained by the name
the series will take newbies step-by-step through the experience of
working and playing
with Linux.

*There is also a dedicated series with the coolest macros available
for OpenOffice and
how you can use them.

*International cartoonist Javier Malonda has agreed to share his works
with us with the
hope of making even the most serious techie smile.

*Now, also read some of the best articles from Linux Journal.

January's Focus
---------------

LINUX For You: Newbies Special
LINUX For You PRO: Real Time Fun With Joysticks

Other highlights of the January issue includes:
------------------------------------------------
LFY CD #1

This CD has a versatile collection of software of every type--to
enhance your desktop,
programming, security and Linux skills. Some of them are Quasar,
Stellarium,
WebCalendar, and Webmin.

LFY CD #2

Now you can enhance your desktop with speedy Linux distro called YOPER.


Why do we have two versions of Linux For You now?
-------------------------------------------------
Linux For You was conceived with the aim of pushing Linux from labs to
offices. To
achieve this goal, we realised that we needed to reduce the pricing of
the main magazine
so that those who were not technical but curious about Linux/OSS could
access the
information. Hence, LINUX For You's main magazine was created as a
magazine for everyone
to read.

At the same time, the demand from the tech community was clear -- they
needed technical
content along with CDs that bundled the latest software and distros.
Hence, the combined
pack of LINUX For You and LFY PRO and 2 CDs are now available at Rs 100!

For more details about LINUX For You magazine, log on to
www.linuxforu.com or email at
niraj@....

This communication aims to inform the Linux community about the
information contained in
Asia's only magazine on Linux and open source, and we hope that it
will be taken
positively.

Our local dealers in various cities are:
****************************************

Branch         Concerned Person          Contact No.


Ahmedabad      Mr. S. K. Sharma          079-26577068


Banglore       Mr. Devaru Bhatt          080-2261305
                                          080-2252385

Chennai        Mr. Pandu                 044-28273893

Hyderabad      Mr. Ramesh Rajgopal       040-27564945
                                          040-27561140

Kolkata        Mr. Lal                   033-2498096
                Mr. Mehta                 033-2498097

Mumbai         Mr. Kirti Chonkar         022-24925651
                Mr. S. Roy                022-24942538

New Delhi      Mr. P. K. Das             011-23313014

Pune           Mr. Basant                020-6131261

Trivandrum     Mr. Hari Kumar            0471-475443

thanks for the link..but i have a  dvd drive..yes there is core 3 DVD with LFY..
Hitesh


On 18 Dec 2004 18:33:27 -0000, Antarpreet Singh
<antarpreet.singh@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Thanks for replying Hitesh,
>                The prob wasnt making an iso but thanks anyway. The solution
> on Digit was RHat specific (i think so unless i change initrd and others).I
> think i found the result it was on Debian's manual
>
-<http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-boot-d\
rive-files>
>
>  PS: i got the debian DVD(with 6100+ packages) with PC Quest magazine this
> December. i Think 'linux for u' had Fudora core 3 this time (i'll be having
> it next very soon)
>
>  Bye,
>      Antar
>
>
>  On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 Hitesh Gupta wrote :
>
>  >
>  >
>  >hi sorry for replying this late but my exams were going on..
>  >anyway what you want is possible provided you have a lot of free disk
>  >space...above 8 gb...4.3 for image of the DVD and rest for installation...
>  >To create a iso image of DVD
>  >dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso <if your current OS is linux>
>  >check this link
>  >http://people.etango.com/~awaite/blog/archives/000653.html
>  >
>  >if you are on windows use any available software for iso image
>  >creation. copy this image to your hard disk...
>  >
>  >now visit this link to know install using this image..
>  >http://thinkdigit.com/howto.html
>  >
>  >since i havent done it myself so i wont be able to elaborate but still
>  >you can always ask in case of any problem..
>  >
>  >BTW is that core 3 DVD final release or some beta
>  >
>  >Hitesh Gupta
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  ________________________________
>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_chandigarh/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> linux_chandigarh-unsubscribe@...
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


--
And they say a hero will save us
I am not gonna stand here and wait

 
Thanks for replying Hitesh,
              The prob wasnt making an iso but thanks anyway. The solution on Digit was RHat specific (i think so unless i change initrd and others).I think i found the result it was on Debian's manual -<http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-boot-drive-files>

PS: i got the debian DVD(with 6100+ packages) with PC Quest magazine this December. i Think 'linux for u' had Fudora core 3 this time (i'll be having it next very soon)

Bye,
    Antar


On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 Hitesh Gupta wrote :
>
>
>hi sorry for replying this late but my exams were going on..
>anyway what you want is possible provided you have a lot of free disk
>space...above 8 gb...4.3 for image of the DVD and rest for installation...
>To create a iso image of DVD
>dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso <if your current OS is linux>
>check this link
>http://people.etango.com/~awaite/blog/archives/000653.html
>
>if you are on windows use any available software for iso image
>creation. copy this image to your hard disk...
>
>now visit this link to know install using this image..
>http://thinkdigit.com/howto.html
>
>since i havent done it myself so i wont be able to elaborate but still
>you can always ask in case of any problem..
>
>BTW is that core 3 DVD final release or some beta
>
>Hitesh Gupta

hi sorry for replying this late but my exams were going on..
anyway what you want is possible provided you have a lot of free disk
space...above 8 gb...4.3 for image of the DVD and rest for installation...
To create a iso image of DVD
dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso <if your current OS is linux>
check this link
http://people.etango.com/~awaite/blog/archives/000653.html

if you are on windows use any available software for iso image
creation. copy this image to your hard disk...

now visit this link to know install using this image..
http://thinkdigit.com/howto.html

since i havent done it myself so i wont be able to elaborate but still
you can always ask in case of any problem..

BTW is that core 3 DVD final release or some beta

Hitesh Gupta


--- In linux_chandigarh@..., "Antarpreet Singh"
<antarpreet.singh@r...> wrote:
> Hello friends,
>         I am just writing this in case anyone knows how to boot a
media from hard-drive which was actually in a CD or a DVD drive. I am
asking this because i do not own a dvd but have a Debian DVD and need
to install it, My friend has a DVD drive but if i install on His
computer (to my HDD) i think it won't boot (The operating system) (PS:
i have already tried this with a Knoppix 3.6 disk , i can get to the
lilo but the kernal  halts abnormally if i install knoppix with his
computer onto my HDD and then boot from my comp.)
>      i think there should be way to make an image off the disk and
then boot the image from 'a' bootloader.But i do not know any
bootloader that supports booting from an image of a DISK.
>
>     If anyone can tell me ANYTHING related to this ,please help me.
>
> PS: i wrote this in a hurry so it may contain many gramatical errors
>
> Thank you for reading this,
>                            Antar

Hello friends,
        I am just writing this in case anyone knows how to boot a media from hard-drive which was actually in a CD or a DVD drive. I am asking this because i do not own a dvd but have a Debian DVD and need to install it, My friend has a DVD drive but if i install on His computer (to my HDD) i think it won't boot (The operating system) (PS: i have already tried this with a Knoppix 3.6 disk , i can get to the lilo but the kernal  halts abnormally if i install knoppix with his computer onto my HDD and then boot from my comp.)
    i think there should be way to make an image off the disk and then boot the image from 'a' bootloader.But i do not know any bootloader that supports booting from an image of a DISK.

    If anyone can tell me ANYTHING related to this ,please help me.

PS: i wrote this in a hurry so it may contain many gramatical errors

Thank you for reading this,
                          Antar

This is to announce that LINUX For You is coming up with FedoraCore 3
DVD with the December 2004 issue. Worth of the LFY Pack remains the
same i.e. Rs 100! As FedoraCore 3 required 4 CDs, so LFY took this
risky decision and has put FedoraCore 3 on a DVD for its readers.

Some of the software included in this month's CDs of LinuxForYou, published
from New Delhi:

 	 * MEPISLinux ("A desktop Linux the way you want it... hundreds of
 	   of software programs are pre-installed and fully
 	   configured to use". Also a choice of kernels.)
 	 * Fedora Core 2 Updates
 	 * Kernel 2.6.8.1 and patches
 	 * DISTRO: VectorLinux 181 MB live distro
 	 * DISTRO: DragonLinux: installs on Windows
 	 * DISTRO: Damn Small Linux: 50 MB live Linux
 	 * GAMES: Wormux and Daimonin
 	 * UTILITIES: FreeDOS, KDevelop, Firefox web browser,
 	   Mozilla suite, SmoothWall-Firewall, GIMP image manipulation
 	   program, GTK (GIMP Took Kit).

FN
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Frederick Noronha (FN)                    Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia
Freelance Journalist                      P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436
http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net
http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha   http://fn-floss.notlong.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Difficulties to send email across? Write to fredericknoronha at vsnl.net
============================================================================
                        Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments
                    See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

Dear Sir,
With pleasure we offer you the following CDs. These CDs are ready to
deliver immediately after receiving order. In case you need other
specific free/open source packages, we can arrange that also on request.
We look forward your valuable order.
FEDORA CORE 3 -set of 4 Cds.Rs.250/-
--------------------------------------------
The following CD's are also vailable on mail order.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
01)Fedora Core 2 -( 4cd set)- Rs 200.
02)Mandrake -10 Official -Recent release from Mandrake( 4cds)-Rs 200
03)Knoppix 3.6 -  Recent release - Rs 70
04)Fedora Core 1  ( 3cd set) - Rs 150
05)Mandrake 9 ( 3cds) - Rs 150
06)Mandrake 9.2 ( 3cds) - Rs 150
07)Debian 3.0r2 ( 7cd set) - Rs 500
08)FreeBSD 5.2.1 ( 2cd set) - Rs 180
09)K12LTSP-latest (4 cds) -Rs 260
10)Slackware 10 2CD- Rs.120/-
11)Slackware 9.1 2CD- Rs.100/-
12)SuSe  9.1 (one CD)Rs.90/-
13)Buffalo 1.2.2 (one CD) Rs.70/-
14)Buffalo 1.2.3 (one CD) Rs.80/-
15)Xandros OCE 2.01 (1  CD) Rs.80/-
16)GNUWIN (2 CDs)  Rs.150/-
17)Redhat 7.1(2CD),7.3,8,9(3CDs)-Rs.40 per CD.
18)Custom HOWTO CD (more than 3000 howtos) - Rs 100/-
19)Custom Single CD based on RH7.3/8 (AUto Installation)- Rs 60/-
20)GISMorphix - Rs 100/-
21)Custom PACKAGE CD -With MONO,Blender,Scribus,Anjuta..etc (Sources) Rs.100/-
22)Gentoo 2 Cds Rs.130/-
23)Openoffice 1.1.2, Firebird .8,GIMP (Windows & linux) - Rs 90/-
24)Linare Linux Single Rs.100/-
25)Educational  free/opensource package available on request
The Software - on - Request CD will take at least 2 weeks to be shipped
--------------------------------------------------------------

Add Rupees 10/- for  shipping charges by ordinary post.
If you want delivery by courier, add courier charges extra
Payments by DD/MO.( Draft/cheque in favour of s2s2, Cannanore Or
Sujeevan.P,Cannanore)
Payment by cash on delivery (V.P.P) is also available at extra cost.
Payments by SBI steps Counter also possible.
For ordering please contact by mail or telephone.

Sujeevan. P
S2S2,
33/876,Brigade center,Ground floor,
Near Prabhat Complex,Fort road,
Kannur -670001.
Kerala,India.
Phone:  Off 0497-2761182 Resi : 0497 -2790811 cell :09447449107
Email: s2s2service@...
Web:http://s2s2net.netfirms.com

Hi!!

> hello sir thanks for help ,sir i am just starting the linux,i install redhat
enterprices sir suggest me which area >i started linux i am fasiniated about
progaming how i start to kernal programing any book

For kernel in-depths : Understanding the Linux Kernel by Cesati and Bovet. (This
is about 2.4 tree, book about
2.6 series will be soon on the stands).

Device Drivers: Linux Device Driver by Rubini & Corbet (wonderful book, again
for 2.4 series)

Linux kernel Internal, Linux core commentary, Linux kernel development by Robert
Love. THere are so
many of them.
I personally own first two and Linux kernel development by Robert Love and found
very nice.

If you don't have any prior experience with Unix programning I would suggest
that you first go for "Advanced Programming in Unix environment". This is from
personal experience. There are so many good things (practices if not skills)
that help alot while programming into kernel. This book is one which will
give something implicitly that ESR discusses about explicitly in his book "The
Art of Unix Programming".
A must read, both of them.

Wish you happy kernel hacking. & one more thing... Welcome. :-)

Regards
--Himanshu

P.S.: Join some mailing list like one of kernelnewbies. Its help ful. TLDP is
also wonderful place to be.
--
______________________________________________
Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org
This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox.


Powered by Outblaze

I am writing this in case anyone just gave my query about the swapping of hda11 with hda10 on my system.
  Well the problem was in the partition table (Due to cfdisk ?)the LBA values of the partitions were correct and thus the problem was solved by changing the CHS values with the LBA ones.

Hi Jon
My mistake...the command is
"tar -zxvf"
that is space after tar..
-zxvf are options/parameters.
i'll exlpain them..
z is to uncompress the file ie to change the .tar.gz --> .tar (this
happens in the temp folder)
x is to expand the file into folders and files...
v is for verbose output
f is to force in case of any problem

detailed help for any command can be obtained by using

man <commandname>
e.g.
man tar

regards
Hitesh Gupta



On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:39:10 -0800 (PST), Jon Davidson <jodvds@...> wrote:
> Thank you for your help.
>     tar-zxvf bash command not found
> In SuSE Linux 9.1 . What do I do? Different shell/
> console?
>
> Original message October 19
>
>
> --- Hitesh Gupta <ghitesh@...> wrote:
>
> > Well i believe you you downloaded one of the source
> > code files..
> > if the file you downloaded isnt
> > "dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz" than do this:
> > Download the above file from
> >
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dvtitler/dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz?download
> >
> > untar it using command
> > tar-zxvf dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz
> > cd to the new folder thus created and type
> > ./install.sh
> > it the error is displayed that file is not
> > executable..then give command
> > chmod 711 dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz
> > ./install.sh
> > this should do it
> >
> > Get back in case you still face problem
> > Bye
> > Hitesh Gupta
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:22:36 -0000, Jon Davidson
> > <jodvds@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >    I am new to computers, having purchased my
> > first computer
> > > 4 months ago at the age of 43. I have downloaded
> > and installed
> > > a video editing program "kino" in RPM form. It
> > works well.
> > > However it needs a plugin "dvtitler" to add movie
> > titles to
> > > a completed video. I have not found dvtitler in
> > RPM form.
> > > I downloaded the source code, but have only
> > managed to
> > > compile it halfway before giving up last summer.
> > It would
> > > be wonderful if someone can direct me to a
> > dvtitler RPM
> > > or help otherwise. I am using SuSE Linux 9.1, AMD
> > 2500,
> > > ASUS A7V600X motherboard.
> > >                  Gratefully and hopefully,
> > >                      Jonathan Davidson
--
And they say a hero will save us
I am not gonna stand here and wait

Thank you for your help.
     tar-zxvf bash command not found
In SuSE Linux 9.1 . What do I do? Different shell/
console?

Original message October 19
--- Hitesh Gupta <ghitesh@...> wrote:

> Well i believe you you downloaded one of the source
> code files..
> if the file you downloaded isnt
> "dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz" than do this:
> Download the above file from
>
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dvtitler/dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz?download
>
> untar it using command
> tar-zxvf dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz
> cd to the new folder thus created and type
> ./install.sh
> it the error is displayed that file is not
> executable..then give command
> chmod 711 dvtitler-0.1.1.tar.gz
> ./install.sh
> this should do it
>
> Get back in case you still face problem
> Bye
> Hitesh Gupta
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:22:36 -0000, Jon Davidson
> <jodvds@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >    I am new to computers, having purchased my
> first computer
> > 4 months ago at the age of 43. I have downloaded
> and installed
> > a video editing program "kino" in RPM form. It
> works well.
> > However it needs a plugin "dvtitler" to add movie
> titles to
> > a completed video. I have not found dvtitler in
> RPM form.
> > I downloaded the source code, but have only
> managed to
> > compile it halfway before giving up last summer.
> It would
> > be wonderful if someone can direct me to a
> dvtitler RPM
> > or help otherwise. I am using SuSE Linux 9.1, AMD
> 2500,
> > ASUS A7V600X motherboard.
> >                  Gratefully and hopefully,
> >                      Jonathan Davidson
>




__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page.
www.yahoo.com

hello sir thanks for help ,sir i am just starting the linux,i install redhat enterprices sir suggest me which area i started linux i am fasiniated about progaming how i start to kernal programing any book

yash  11:21 am

Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

Hi!

I was also prompted to say same thing that Hitesh already did.
But with very well said about posting by Hitesh, I dont need to
do so.

As per your question,
For any "general purpose" C program, "By general purpose, I mean
the program that links to standard C library", you can do following
with GCC.

gcc <filename.c> -o <out-filename>

* <filename.c> is your C source file
* out-filename is your executable file.
If you miss -o <out-filename>, executable will be "a.out" as hitesh
already said.

Regards
--Himanshu
--
______________________________________________
Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org
This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox.


Powered by Outblaze

Hi there..
Before I write the solution to your problem, please note a few points.

  Its better to start your own thread rather than starting from middle
of some other threads.

Also its advisable to give the thread a suitable subject title (such
as "How to compile a C program?" rather than a more general "Help"

  Normally on a LUG one does not ask a particular person a problem but
rather submits it to the whole group . Looking at your mail..only
himanshu should be replying to it..but anyways here i am..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Solution

Suppose your file name is "abc.c"

then give command: "cc abc.c"

if no error is found then a file "a.out" will be created in the directory..
to execute it simly give the command: "./a.out"

That it..

Hitesh Gupta

> mail
>
>               hi Himanshu,
>
>                    I do not know how to compile and run C, c++ programs on
>
> Linux. Pls mail me how can I compile and run C,C++ programs on Linux.
>
> Pls mail all the step by step method as I am a beginner.

Hello Sir,

We would like to introduce ourselves as Swathantra software solutions
and support (S2S2) a company which has made a unique name by winning
the trust of GNU/Linux community in india.

we are happy to provide you the following latest CDs for affordable
prices.
All prices are exclusive of shipping charge.
1.Fedora Core 2 (A set of 4 CDs for Rs.200)
2.Fedora Core 1 (A set of 3 CDs for Rs.150)
3.Mandrake 10   (A set of 4 CDs for Rs.200)
4.Mandrake 9.2  (A set of 3 CDs for Rs.150)
5.Redhat 9      (A set of 3 CDs for Rs.150)
6.Redhat 7.1,7.3,8
7.Debian        (A set of 7 CDs for Rs.400)
8.FreeBSD       (A set of 2 CDs for Rs.120)
9.SlackWare 10  (A set of 2 CDs for Rs.120)
10.Slackware 9.1 (S set of 2 CDs for Rs.100)
11. Gentoo 2004.1 ( A set of 2 CDs for Rs 130)
12. Buffalo Linux 1.4.0( Single CD RS 70)
13. GNU/HURD Rs 70
14. GNU WIN II ( packages for windows 2 CD Rs 130)
15. OpenCD ( for windows) Rs 60
16.HOWTO CD (More than 3000 Linux Howtos in a Single CD ) Rs.100/-
17.K12LTSP      (A set of 4 CDs for Rs.220)
18.KNOPPIX Linux LIVE CD(Knoppix 3.6)  Rs.70/-
19.Mozilla,Firebird,OpenOffice,GIMP -Windows & linux  edition
20.Redhat Single CD -Auto Installation-RH 7.3,8 Rs.50/-
21.Suse 9.1 single cd Rs.80/-
22. Xandros single cd Rs 80/-
23.Linare Linux Single Rs.120/-
24.Project Cds
Any GPL package will be available on Request.
Delivery within 3 days
1.Send DD/cheque for corresponding cost+Rs.20 as shipping charge.DD
must  be in favour of S2S2 payable at kannur.
or
2.Send MO for the Cost of CD+ Rs 20
3.For Cash on delivery You have to pay Rs.60 in addition to cost of cd.
*****************************************************************
# Specialised in LINUX installation,Linux Server Setup
# LINUX TERMINAL SERVER (DISK LESS thin clients)  setup
# NETWORKING ,Lab Maintenance,Technical support & Training on GNU/Linux
# Custom Assembled PC hardware with preloaded LINUX
# Computer Consumables at affordable price
# Black CDs  &  Floppies
*******************************************************************

With Regards
Sujeevan.P
S2S2,33/876,Brigade Center,Gr Floor,Nr Prabhat Complex,FORT Road,
Kannur-1, KERALA
Ph 0497-2761182,Cell :9447449107
http://www.s2s2net.netfirms.com
Mailto://s2s2service@gmail.com

mail

              hi Himanshu,

                   I do not know how to compile and run C, c++ programs on

Linux. Pls mail me how can I compile and run C,C++ programs on Linux.

Pls mail all the step by step method as I am a beginner.

Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

Hi!

Why dont you think about distributing a version that is totally dedicated to the
developers.

Thanks

Regards
--Hmanshu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Niraj Sahay" <niraj@...>
To: linux_chandigarh@...
Subject: [linux_chandigarh] LINUXFor You
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:40:05 -0000



<html><body>


<tt>
<BR>
<BR>
[Commercial]<BR>
<BR>
Dear Linux enthusiasts,<BR>
<BR>
LINUXForYou: The Complete Magazine on Open Source.<BR>
LINUXForYou's November issue is now on stands, it has a<BR>
lot of content which the community would like to get their<BR>
hands on. <BR>
<BR>
November's Focus<BR>
LINUXForYou: Michael Tiemann, VP, Open Source Affairs, Red<BR>
Hat, shares his vision, enthusiasm and entrepreneurial<BR>
spirits with LFY readers.<BR>
LINUXForYouPRO: Fine-tune your video cards.<BR>
<BR>
Other highlights of the November issue includes:<BR>
----------------------------------------------------------<BR>
LFY CD #1<BR>
<BR>
CD #1 is bundled with the following software<BR>
* SmoothWall: This is an Internet security software package<BR>
based on Linux. It is Web managed and has the facilities<BR>
normally seen in expensive commercial offerings.<BR>
<BR>
* Damn Small inux: This is a business card sized, bootable<BR>
LiveCD distribution.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
LFY CD #2<BR>
<BR>
MEPIS: MEPIS is a LiveCD distribution. It is an ideal<BR>
foundation for developing a custom version of Linux for<BR>
large scale deployment. It is ideal for integrators and<BR>
end-user clients to develop privately branded and<BR>
optimally tweaked Linux configurations.<BR>
<BR>
LINUX For You<BR>
--------------------<BR>
Articles in detail<BR>
<BR>
* Are You Ready to Rock? is the theme of this interview<BR>
with Michael Tiemann, VP, Open Source Affairs, Red Hat.<BR>
Tiemann has shared his thoughts and vision that all of us<BR>
can learn from. He has addressed the concerns of the CEOs<BR>
of Indian IT firms who are wondering if it's time to shift<BR>
to the open source paradigm. He has also explained why<BR>
CIOs would be at an advantage if they deploy open source.<BR>
He has also expressed his willingness to partner with<BR>
governments to demonstrate the benefits of open source.<BR>
<BR>
* With the battle raging between the open source community<BR>
and the proprietary world on one front, there are lots of<BR>
arguments to be settled between free software against open<BR>
source software. Licensing is the key behind these<BR>
arguments. So the article titled "Licensing Open Source<BR>
Software" just do this.<BR>
<BR>
* The cute little penguin has made an entry in the<BR>
electronic design automation industry. So, if you are a<BR>
part of electronics industry and are looking for ideas on<BR>
cutting costs the article titled "Tux Automates Electronic<BR>
Design" is for you.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
LINUX For You PRO<BR>
-------------------------<BR>
Articles in detail<BR>
<BR>
* Troubleshooting Video: This article describes how to<BR>
configure, troubleshoot and fine-tune the performance of<BR>
video cards in Fedora.<BR>
<BR>
* If you have a Web server in Linux and want to secure the<BR>
acess from browser clients to the Web server, Hyper Text<BR>
Transfer Protocol Secure (HTTPS) is one of the solutions.<BR>
We have an article fully devoted to HTTPS as it's widely<BR>
used in e-commerce.<BR>
<BR>
* Review: Firefox Browser: In this article, Firefox browser<BR>
has been reviewed in detail. <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Why do we have two versions of Linux For You now?<BR>
------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>
Linux For You was conceived with the aim of pushing Linux<BR>
from labs to offices. To achieve this goal, we realised<BR>
that we needed to reduce the pricing of the main magazine<BR>
so that those who were not technical but curious about<BR>
Linux/OSS could access the information. Hence,<BR>
LINUXForYou's main magazine was created as a magazine for<BR>
everyone to read.<BR>
<BR>
At the same time, the demand from the tech community was<BR>
clear -- they needed technical content along with CDs that<BR>
bundled the latest software and distros. Hence, the<BR>
combined pack of LINUXForYou and LFYPRO and the two CDs is<BR>
now available at Rs 100!<BR>
<BR>
For more details about LINUX For You magazine, log on to<BR>
www.lfymag.com or email at niraj@....<BR>
<BR>
This communication aims to inform the Linux community<BR>
about the information contained in Asia's only magazine on<BR>
Linux and open source, and we hope that it will be taken<BR>
positively.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</tt>




<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->

<br>
<tt><hr width="500">
<b>Yahoo! Groups Links</b><br>
<ul>
<li>To visit your group on the web, go to:<br><a
href="http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_chandigarh/">http://in.groups.yahoo\
.com/group/linux_chandigarh/</
a><br> 
<li>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<br><a
href="mailto:linux_chandigarh-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe"\
>linux_chandigarh-
unsubscribe@...</a><br> 
<li>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a
href="http://in.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.
</ul>
</tt>
</br>

<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->


</body></html>







DigitalSecure \\\|///        My Home Here
              -( o o )-http:digitalsecure.port5.com
+--------o000o-(_o_)-o000o-----------------------+
| Himanshu Singh Chauhan                  |
|   http://www.geocities.com/sunnylug            |
| "Good programmers know what to write;          |   |   Great one know what to
rewrite"              |
| 			 --ESR  	 |
+------------------------------------------------+
--
______________________________________________
Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org
This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox.


Powered by Outblaze

[Commercial]

Dear Linux enthusiasts,

LINUXForYou: The Complete Magazine on Open Source.
LINUXForYou's November issue is now on stands, it has a
lot of content which the community would like to get their
hands on.

November's Focus
LINUXForYou: Michael Tiemann, VP, Open Source Affairs, Red
Hat, shares his vision, enthusiasm and entrepreneurial
spirits with LFY readers.
LINUXForYouPRO: Fine-tune your video cards.

Other highlights of the November issue includes:
----------------------------------------------------------
LFY CD #1

CD #1 is bundled with the following software
* SmoothWall: This is an Internet security software package
based on Linux. It is Web managed and has the facilities
normally seen in expensive commercial offerings.

* Damn Small inux: This is a business card sized, bootable
LiveCD distribution.


LFY CD #2

MEPIS: MEPIS is a LiveCD distribution. It is an ideal
foundation for developing a custom version of Linux for
large scale deployment. It is ideal for integrators and
end-user clients to develop privately branded and
optimally tweaked Linux configurations.

LINUX For You
--------------------
Articles in detail

* Are You Ready to Rock? is the theme of this interview
with Michael Tiemann, VP, Open Source Affairs, Red Hat.
Tiemann has shared his thoughts and vision that all of us
can learn from. He has addressed the concerns of the CEOs
of Indian IT firms who are wondering if it's time to shift
to the open source paradigm. He has also explained why
CIOs would be at an advantage if they deploy open source.
He has also expressed his willingness to partner with
governments to demonstrate the benefits of open source.

* With the battle raging between the open source community
and the proprietary world on one front, there are lots of
arguments to be settled between free software against open
source software. Licensing is the key behind these
arguments. So the article titled "Licensing Open Source
Software" just do this.

* The cute little penguin has made an entry in the
electronic design automation industry. So, if you are a
part of electronics industry and are looking for ideas on
cutting costs the article titled "Tux Automates Electronic
Design" is for you.


LINUX For You PRO
-------------------------
Articles in detail

* Troubleshooting Video: This article describes how to
configure, troubleshoot and fine-tune the performance of
video cards in Fedora.

* If you have a Web server in Linux and want to secure the
acess from browser clients to the Web server, Hyper Text
Transfer Protocol Secure (HTTPS) is one of the solutions.
We have an article fully devoted to HTTPS as it's widely
used in e-commerce.

* Review: Firefox Browser: In this article, Firefox browser
has been reviewed in detail.


Why do we have two versions of Linux For You now?
------------------------------------------------------------------
Linux For You was conceived with the aim of pushing Linux
from labs to offices. To achieve this goal, we realised
that we needed to reduce the pricing of the main magazine
so that those who were not technical but curious about
Linux/OSS could access the information. Hence,
LINUXForYou's main magazine was created as a magazine for
everyone to read.

At the same time, the demand from the tech community was
clear -- they needed technical content along with CDs that
bundled the latest software and distros. Hence, the
combined pack of LINUXForYou and LFYPRO and the two CDs is
now available at Rs 100!

For more details about LINUX For You magazine, log on to
www.lfymag.com or email at niraj@....

This communication aims to inform the Linux community
about the information contained in Asia's only magazine on
Linux and open source, and we hope that it will be taken
positively.

Hey Friends i need a lil help (for knowing what's happening)

     I partioned my hardisk into 8 partitions out of which only first (Fat32) is primary and Rest are logical.They in increasing order of start sectors are -

           {fat32},{ext3,ext2,fat32,swap,ext2,ext2,fat32}

Now their sizes (In MB's) are -
  {3676.71},{4301.83,4301.83,8603.65,271.44,945.91,937.69,17018.11}

     Now the problem is that when i am running gnoppix 0.8 (based on debian (kernel 2.6.7)) the last 2 partitions are interchanged (hda11 becomes hda10 and vise-versa [acc to what qtparted says]). ie they come in order -
           {fat32},{ext3,ext2,fat32,swap,ext2,fat32,ext2}

     I suspect the problem would also be with most (or all) distributions.

I am including the partition table for my hardisk followed by the cfdisk's output.


Partition Table for /dev/hda

        ---Starting---      ----Ending----    Start    Number of
# Flags Head Sect Cyl  ID  Head Sect Cyl    Sector    Sectors
-- ----- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------- -----------
1  0x80    1    1    0 0x0B  254  63  446          63    7180992
2  0x00    0    1  447 0x0F  254  63 1023    7181055    71055495
3  0x00    0    0    0 0x00    0    0    0          0          0
4  0x00    0    0    0 0x00    0    0    0          0          0
5  0x00    1    1  447 0x83  254  63  969          63    8401932
6  0x00    1    1  970 0x83  254  63 1023          63    8401932
7  0x00  254  63 1023 0x0B  254  63 1023          63    16803927
8  0x00  254  63 1023 0x82  254  63 1023          63      530082
9  0x00  254  63 1023 0x83  254  63 1023          63    1847412
11  0x00  254  63 1023 0x83  254  63 1023          63    1831347
10  0x00  254  63 1023 0x0B  254  63 1023          63    33238422




                                  cfdisk 2.12

                              Disk Drive: /dev/hda
                        Size: 40060403712 bytes, 40.0 GB
              Heads: 255  Sectors per Track: 63  Cylinders: 4870

    Name        Flags      Part Type  FS Type          [Label]        Size (MB)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    hda1        Boot        Primary  W95 FAT32                        3676.71
    hda5                    Logical  Linux ext3                        4301.83
    hda6                    Logical  Linux ext2                        4301.83
    hda7                    Logical  W95 FAT32                        8603.65
    hda8                    Logical  Linux swap                        271.44
    hda9                    Logical  Linux ext2                        945.91
    hda11                  Logical  Linux ext2                        937.69
    hda10                  Logical  W95 FAT32                        17018.11




    [Bootable]  [ Delete ]  [  Help  ]  [Maximize]  [ Print  ]
    [  Quit  ]  [  Type  ]  [ Units  ]  [ Write  ]

                Toggle bootable flag of the current partition




Thanks anyway for reading this.
Copying this in a texteditor and then reading might help.