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#590 From: "mohit puri" <leo.mohit@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:38 pm
Subject:: Re: fc6
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Karan,
How are you mate? Saw a messag e after a long time!! Synaptic in fc6? please guide me to some resources. i couldnt find any. fc pppl say that that project is now abandoned.
Regards
Mohit

On 12/15/06, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@...> wrote:

Vikas Gupta wrote:
>
>
> i didnt tried LEFY but PCQuest. i m ok with ubuntu now as i felt that
> FC6 is heavy , i mean it took quiet some time to load, where as ubuntu
> loads in a minute. synaptic is great.
>

you can use syaptic/apt-rpm on FC6 as well ...

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#589 From: Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:57 pm
Subject:: Re: Mailing List
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Hi Hitesh,

Hitesh Gupta wrote:
> 1. Will that list be linked to group? I have no idea regarding that. In
> case NO, how will new members find the list??

its a mailing list, so anything that flows over email can be linked in
with no issues. The added advantage being that you can also read it over
a nntp feed from gmane.

> 2. Will that list be moderated? If yes, then by whom and what criterion.
> BTW earlier all posts on this group were moderated by me. Later some
> more moderators were added. Now, as I am not able to devote much time, I
> have permitted some frequent users to post without moderation, and rest
> are handled by moderators, including myself. Because of this moderation,
> i believe the amount of span in group is almost nil.

while email spam might be low, this list has by far the most amount of
commercial unsolicited material being thrown at me. I am presently on
about 40 odd lists, some ( like lkml ) are much higher traffic and I
only read through filters.

Also, moderation is a funny business. Unless there is a problem - no
need to try and fix it. eg. how much spam do you see on most LUG lists ?
( my local lug, gllug - has a very active list and sees no spam
whatsoever ). Mailing list software, over the years, has sort of evolved
into something that is fairly usable. So given this, how many emails
have you moderated 'out' and not accepted to be posted in the last week
- which also came from subscribed users ?

finally, along the same point. You are most welcome to be the moderator
if you like. I would prefer, at the onset anyway, for an unmoderated
list. If we have problems, we can fix them. By just allowing posts from
subscribers (both via the list and on Y!Groups ) we should eradicate
most UCE anyway.

> 3. Regarding the 'content of mails being lost in clutter'. Well your
> original message was posted in the end of other messages. Most users
> don't care to delete the useless data while replying to mails. And i
> don't think that can be stopped.

I was trying to prove a point..

>
> 4. Old Posts won't be available in case of a mailing list

where did you get that from ? Mailing lists have always had old emails
available. ( eg. https://www.redhat.com/archives/nahant-list/ )

> Personally I am not against any such action if you think it will benefit
> the group.

Might make it a bit more usable :)
</opinion>

PS: Hi Guys, not sure
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#588 From: Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:21 pm
Subject:: Re: fc6
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Vikas Gupta wrote:
>
>
> i didnt tried LEFY but PCQuest. i m ok with ubuntu now as i felt that
> FC6 is heavy , i mean it took quiet some time to load, where as ubuntu
> loads in a minute. synaptic is great.
>

you can use syaptic/apt-rpm on FC6 as well ...

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#587 From: "Hitesh Gupta" <ghitesh@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:32 pm
Subject:: Re: Mailing List
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Well i have no objections to that but there are a couple of points i would like to put up..

1. Will that list be linked to group? I have no idea regarding that. In case NO, how will new members find the list??

2. Will that list be moderated? If yes, then by whom and what criterion. BTW earlier all posts on this group were moderated by me. Later some more moderators were added. Now, as I am not able to devote much time, I have permitted some frequent users to post without moderation, and rest are handled by moderators, including myself. Because of this moderation, i believe the amount of span in group is almost nil.

3. Regarding the 'content of mails being lost in clutter'. Well your original message was posted in the end of other messages. Most users don't care to delete the useless data while replying to mails. And i don't think that can be stopped.

4. Old Posts won't be available in case of a mailing list

Personally I am not against any such action if you think it will benefit the group.

Regards
Hitesh Gupta
Owner/Moderator

On 12/15/06, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@...> wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has considered moving from yahoogroups to a
real mailing list setup ? If required, I am happy to setup, host and run
the list.

Why move ? well, firstly just look at the amount if marketing and
promotional crap that comes down with each email sent. And they seem to
break threading for message replies. Its bad enough that you need to
literally *look* for the email content amongst all the adverts.

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#586 From: Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:44 am
Subject:: Mailing List
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Just wondering if anyone has considered moving from yahoogroups to a
real mailing list setup ? If required, I am happy to setup, host and run
the list.

Why move ? well, firstly just look at the amount if marketing and
promotional crap that comes down with each email sent. And they seem to
break threading for message replies. Its bad enough that you need to
literally *look* for the email content amongst all the adverts.

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Prof. Anil Sarwal wrote:
>
>
>
>
> It seems my emails are bouncing.  There is something wrong with the
> group mails.

PS :- Message modified by hitesh_hg@... (Group Moderator)

#585 From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
Date:: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:49 pm
Subject:: Re: fc6
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i didnt tried LEFY but PCQuest. i m ok with ubuntu now as i felt that FC6 is heavy , i mean it took quiet some time to load, where as ubuntu loads in a minute. synaptic is great.

Mohit Puri <leo.mohit@...> wrote:
Dear Vikas -ji,
I am very disheartened to observe that fc6 did not work for you. I hope
that you are not trying the "LINUX FOR YOU MAGAZINE" fc6 dvd.
Actually, on my system this fc6 is behaving quite normally. No crash so
far :-D
fact is that the lify dvd always has some fault. I have a good
experience with these dvds. I had also written to Mr. Niraj Saha about
this problem (Niraj Sahi is the one who writes emails to all the froups
explaining what is there in the latest release.) He has not responded so
far. Nevermind
Lify survives because of the distributions they bundle, and irony is
that they can not take care of their selling point.

BTW Ubuntu is a good distribution ofcourse. So it is a wise decision to
stick to that. But just in case you want to give fedora another try. Tru
using my dvd. after an updates of 200mb or so, things are pretty smooth.
Regards
Mohit


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#584 From: MoHiT GuLeRiA <smsmohit@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:54 am
Subject:: Re: Linux Distributions
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Dear Vikas,


Freespire is a good distribution, it looks more like windows or they have tried making it so. I am running it since last 1 week and find it to be stable. It detected my hardware easily. It comes pre-bundled with java and flash player. It has CNR, something similar to synaptic where we can easily install software. It is heavy on resources. Overall a good distribution for the newbies. The graphic work is great in it which makes it heavy. I'll still recommend ubuntu 6.10 but you should give freespire a try.

Regards
Mohit

----- Original Message ----
From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
To: linux_chandigarh@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: [linux_chandigarh] Linux Distributions

plz post hows freespire! i tried FC 6 yesterday! its the same redhat thing crashing not supproting anything, display, sound and my tv tuner card. i have intslled ubuntu again and i m gonna stick to it now as it didnt crashed or stuck we can say.


MoHiT GuLeRiA <smsmohit@yahoo. com> wrote:


Dear Friends,

In last two meets we all have been discussing various distributions. Most of us agreed that Ubuntu is better for the desktops and CentOS for running servers. I think Ubuntu and its derivatives like Kbuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu are good for people who have some
interest  and knowledge of Linux. To motivate and make someone use Linux we need more easy and pre customized version. Something like Xandros or Linspire (ex Lindows) which is more similar to MS-Windows, mainly XP and where it is more easy to install additional softwares. But both of them come for a price and are not FREE (free as in beer or free as in speech, i still have to understand the lingo). It won't be easy to convince someone not to buy "XP Starter Edition" (costs $30 - $40) instead of Xandros or Linspire which come at double the price for basic computing.


Recently I came across a an article comparing:


Linspire Five-0
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED 10) and
Xandros Business Desktop Linux.

I agree with them. Looking at Linspire I found that they have recently launched FREESPIRE its open source/free derivative. Linspire/Lindows have been in this domain since long and have the experience to give a stable distro. It looks good, I will install it soon and hope that Linspire wouldn't have done the same with it i.e. what RedHat did to Fedora. So friends lets investigate/ research more into it, if promoting Linux is one of the objectives of our group. And pls. update the group about its pros and cons.


Thanking you
With warm regards

Mohit Guleria

Ref:
http://www.crn. com/sections/ breakingnews/ dailyarchives. jhtml?articleId= 193700673&pgno=1&queryText=
http://wiki. freespire. org/index. php/Quick_ Tour_of_Freespir e



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#583 From: "Prof. Anil Sarwal" <sarwalanil@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:51 am
Subject:: FW: Linux Distributions
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It seems my emails are bouncing.  There is something wrong with the group mails.

 

Anyway, I had written about the new Suse 10.2 which seems to have got very good reviews.  Can someone download for our tomorrow’s meeting?  We can install and see how it is.

 

I too agree about FC 6.  I had the same experience.  So far Ubuntu rules the rest.

 

With regards and we all hopefully will be meeting tomorrow in the DAV College.

 

Anil Sarwal

 

From: linux_chandigarh@... [mailto:linux_chandigarh@...] On Behalf Of Vikas Gupta
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:33 PM
To: linux_chandigarh@...
Subject: Re: [linux_chandigarh] Linux Distributions

 

plz post hows freespire! i tried FC 6 yesterday! its the same redhat thing crashing not supproting anything, display, sound and my tv tuner card. i have intslled ubuntu again and i m gonna stick to it now as it didnt crashed or stuck we can say.


MoHiT GuLeRiA <smsmohit@...> wrote:


Dear Friends,

In last two meets we all have been discussing various distributions. Most of us agreed that Ubuntu is better for the desktops and CentOS for running servers. I think Ubuntu and its derivatives like Kbuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu are good for people who have some interest  and knowledge of Linux. To motivate and make someone use Linux we need more easy and pre customized version. Something like Xandros or Linspire (ex Lindows) which is more similar to MS-Windows, mainly XP and where it is more easy to install additional softwares. But both of them come for a price and are not FREE (free as in beer or free as in speech, i still have to understand the lingo). It won't be easy to convince someone not to buy "XP Starter Edition" (costs $30 - $40) instead of Xandros or Linspire which come at double the price for basic computing.


Recently I came across a an article comparing:


Linspire Five-0
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED 10) and
Xandros Business Desktop Linux.

I agree with them. Looking at Linspire I found that they have recently launched FREESPIRE its open source/free derivative. Linspire/Lindows have been in this domain since long and have the experience to give a stable distro. It looks good, I will install it soon and hope that Linspire wouldn't have done the same with it i.e. what RedHat did to Fedora. So friends lets investigate/research more into it, if promoting Linux is one of the objectives of our group. And pls. update the group about its pros and cons.


Thanking you
With warm regards

Mohit Guleria

Ref:
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=193700673&pgno=1&queryText=
http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Quick_Tour_of_Freespire

 


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#582 From: Mohit Puri <leo.mohit@...>
Date:: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:02 pm
Subject:: fc6
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Dear Vikas -ji,
I am very disheartened to observe that fc6 did not work for you. I hope
that you are not trying the "LINUX FOR YOU MAGAZINE" fc6 dvd.
Actually, on my system this fc6 is behaving quite normally. No crash so
far :-D
fact is that the lify dvd always has some fault. I have a good
experience with these dvds. I had also written to Mr. Niraj Saha about
this problem (Niraj Sahi is the one who writes emails to all the froups
explaining what is there in the latest release.) He has not responded so
far. Nevermind
Lify survives because of the distributions they bundle, and irony is
that they can not take care of their selling point.

BTW Ubuntu is a good distribution ofcourse. So it is a wise decision to
stick to that. But just in case you want to give fedora another try. Tru
using my dvd. after an updates of 200mb or so, things are pretty smooth.
Regards
Mohit

#581 From: Mohit Puri <leo.mohit@...>
Date:: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:19 pm
Subject:: Freeinspire
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Hi Mohit, (Guleria)
I have that freeinspire cd. You can have it and try!!!
Regards
Mohit Puri
9417248729

#580 From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
Date:: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:03 pm
Subject:: Re: Linux Distributions
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plz post hows freespire! i tried FC 6 yesterday! its the same redhat thing crashing not supproting anything, display, sound and my tv tuner card. i have intslled ubuntu again and i m gonna stick to it now as it didnt crashed or stuck we can say.


MoHiT GuLeRiA <smsmohit@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

In last two meets we all have been discussing various distributions. Most of us agreed that Ubuntu is better for the desktops and CentOS for running servers. I think Ubuntu and its derivatives like Kbuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu are good for people who have some
interest  and knowledge of Linux. To motivate and make someone use Linux we need more easy and pre customized version. Something like Xandros or Linspire (ex Lindows) which is more similar to MS-Windows, mainly XP and where it is more easy to install additional softwares. But both of them come for a price and are not FREE (free as in beer or free as in speech, i still have to understand the lingo). It won't be easy to convince someone not to buy "XP Starter Edition" (costs $30 - $40) instead of Xandros or Linspire which come at double the price for basic computing.


Recently I came across a an article comparing:


Linspire Five-0
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED 10) and
Xandros Business Desktop Linux.

I agree with them. Looking at Linspire I found that they have recently launched FREESPIRE its open source/free derivative. Linspire/Lindows have been in this domain since long and have the experience to give a stable distro. It looks good, I will install it soon and hope that Linspire wouldn't have done the same with it i.e. what RedHat did to Fedora. So friends lets investigate/research more into it, if promoting Linux is one of the objectives of our group. And pls. update the group about its pros and cons.


Thanking you
With warm regards

Mohit Guleria

Ref:
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=193700673&pgno=1&queryText=
http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Quick_Tour_of_Freespire



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#579 From: "Anil Seth" <seth.anil@...>
Date:: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:20 am
Subject:: A Leap Back
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Interesting, a bug becoming a part of a "standard"

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2006/10/leap-back.html

Datetimes in Excel are represented as date serial numbers, where dates
are counted from an origin, sometimes called an epoch, of January 1st,
1900. The problem is that from the earliest implementations Excel got
it wrong. It thinks that 1900 was a leap year, when clearly it isn't,
under Gregorian rules since it is not divisible by 400. This error
causes functions like the WEEKDAY() spreadsheet function to return
incorrect values in some cases. See the Microsoft support article on
this issue.

Now I have no problems with that bug remaining in Excel for backwards
compatibility reasons. That's an issue between Microsoft and their
customers and not my concern. However, I am quite distressed to see
this bug promoted into a requirement in the Ecma Office Open XML
(OOXML) specification. From Volume 4 (Markup Language Reference --
warning 34Mb download!) section 3.17.4.1 page 2522), "Date
Representation":

     For legacy reasons, an implementation using the 1900 date base
system shall treat 1900 as though it was a leap year. [Note: That is,
serial value 59 corresponds to February 28, and serial value 61
corresponds to March 1, the next day, allowing the (nonexistent) date
February 29 to have the serial value 60. end note] A consequence of
this is that for dates between January 1 and February 28, WEEKDAY
shall return a value for the day immediately prior to the correct day,
so that the (nonexistent) date February 29 has a day-of-the-week that
immediately follows that of February 28, and immediately precedes that
of March 1.


So the new OOXML standard now contradicts 400 years of civil calendar
practice, encodes nonexistent dates and returns the incorrect value
for WEEKDAY()? And this is the mandated normative behavior? Is this
some sort of joke?

#578 From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
Date:: Sat Dec 9, 2006 11:47 am
Subject:: timing
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its 15th of December 2006 at 6:15 pm. we can have coffee but where. please mail before Wednesday as we will final it on Thursday morning.


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#577 From: Mohit Puri <leo.mohit@...>
Date:: Sat Dec 9, 2006 6:03 pm
Subject:: sp ub?
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Vikas -ji,

Supporting Ubuntu was decided? did  we have any other meeting than two
Fridays?
Sir, if we want to support Linux, then what does it mean that we support
Ubuntu? I mean that Linux is the same. And i think it makes more sense
make a Linux user group rather than  a ubuntu user group. Let the end
user decide the flavor (in my humble openion).  Well yes, we can
/RECOMMEND/ Ubuntu or anything for that matter.

Secondly, what exactly we mean when we say we will support Linux? Are we
going to offer Technical support for it? What would be support
boundaries in that case?
Regards
Mohit


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        Sat Dec 9, 2006 11:24 am

hello all,
the next meeting is at 6:15 PM at DAV college only. we have decided that
we will support ubuntu. its easy to install and easy to use. as there
are many choices and we can not support all so ubuntu was voted by all.
i havent used it at all, therefore i will share my views later.

#576 From: "Prof. Anil Sarwal" <sarwalanil@...>
Date:: Sat Dec 9, 2006 11:03 am
Subject:: RE: cant come on sunday!
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Dear all

 

I agree that we should fix a time and date in advance and let everyone know.  Everyone is of course very welcome to the meetings at the DAV College.  So we meet next Friday at 6.15 pm, if everyone is okay with this date and time.

 

Secondly, I feel we need to have some people responsible for certain things like calling a meeting or agenda, etc.  We might come up with a bare minimum infrastructure for this, so that we can function much better.

 

Last Friday we experimented with Centos and SimplyMepis.  Two nice releases and in the process learnt useful commands and some small but important things.

 

I found SimplyMepis a nice release though it is based upon Ubuntu and is not as current as Ubuntu/Kubuntu.

 

I have downloaded the Kubuntu Feisty Herd 1 CD released today or so.

Will experiment and give feedback.

With regards

Anil Sarwal

 

 

From: linux_chandigarh@... [mailto:linux_chandigarh@...] On Behalf Of Nipun Jain
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 12:08 PM
To: linux_chandigarh@...
Subject: RE: [linux_chandigarh] cant come on sunday!

 

Umm...6:15 is fine, but we need to decide on a date too. 6:15 pm on what day / date?

Regarding the mailing list, this has to do with Yahoo! Groups. Our Yahoo! moderator can better answer this question. But if we have domain and hosting, why don't we set up our own mailing list?

//Nipun.




To: linux_chandigarh@...
From: gvikaskc@...
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:07:30 +0000
Subject: [linux_chandigarh] cant come on sunday!

i think those who came for 2 fridays cant come on sunday ! this is a problem with me ! otherwise i can put up whole friday with clug. so lets meet at DAV 6:15 pm


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#575 From: Sanjeev Guleria <sanjeev_k_guleria@...>
Date:: Sat Dec 9, 2006 10:39 am
Subject:: Re: meet this Sunday?
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Dear Mohit,
You just need to click on Switch delivery to Individual in the middle line of any of the mail digest you recieve from the group. This will solve your problem.
Sanjeev K. Guleria

----- Original Message ----
From: Mohit Puri <leo.mohit@...>
To: linux_chandigarh@...
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2006 8:52:56 AM
Subject: [linux_chandigarh] meet this Sunday?

friends. i am trying to post a message and i keep getting a mail back
saying that my message was not delivered.
last attempt.... (saying this just in case my messages come multiple
times, then u get why that happened.

Friends, Can we meet this Sunday over a cup of coffee?
and can some one tell me how can i recieve the emails at once from this
mailing list?
I get a digest mail , one a day.
regards
Mohit




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#574 From: Nipun Jain <nipun_jain@...>
Date:: Sat Dec 9, 2006 6:37 am
Subject:: RE: cant come on sunday!
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Umm...6:15 is fine, but we need to decide on a date too. 6:15 pm on what day / date?

Regarding the mailing list, this has to do with Yahoo! Groups. Our Yahoo! moderator can better answer this question. But if we have domain and hosting, why don't we set up our own mailing list?

//Nipun.





To: linux_chandigarh@...
From: gvikaskc@...
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:07:30 +0000
Subject: [linux_chandigarh] cant come on sunday!

i think those who came for 2 fridays cant come on sunday ! this is a problem with me ! otherwise i can put up whole friday with clug. so lets meet at DAV 6:15 pm



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#573 From: "Anil Seth" <seth.anil@...>
Date:: Sat Dec 2, 2006 5:08 pm
Subject:: For $150, Third-World Laptop Stirs Big Debate
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Hi,

Nice article about a fascinating project. Sad that India is not
participating in the initial trials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/30/technology/30laptop.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=sl\
ogin&adxnnlx=1164978307-yDVTJFWSRYLEihjs

Mr. Negroponte, the founding director of the M.I.T. Media Laboratory,
said he was amused by the attention his little machine was getting. It
is not the first time he has been challenged for proclaiming
technology's promise.

"It's as if people spent all of their attention focusing on Columbus's
boat and not on where he was going," he said in an interview here.
"You have to remember that what this is about is education."

Seymour Papert, a computer scientist and educator who is an adviser to
the project, has argued that if young people are given computers and
allowed to explore, they will "learn how to learn." That, Mr. Papert
argues, is a more valuable skill than traditional teaching strategies
that focus on memorization and testing.


Regards
Anil

#572 From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 8, 2006 5:49 pm
Subject:: next meeting
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hello all,
the next meeting is at 6:15 PM at DAV college only. we have decided that we will support ubuntu. its easy to install and easy to use. as there are many choices and we can not support all so ubuntu was voted by all. i havent used it at all, therefore i will share my views later.


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#571 From: Mohit Puri <leo.mohit@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 8, 2006 4:52 pm
Subject:: meet this Sunday?
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friends. i am trying to post a message and i keep getting a mail back
saying that my message was not delivered.
last attempt.... (saying this just in case my messages come multiple
times, then u get why that happened.



Friends, Can we meet this Sunday over a cup of coffee?
and can some one tell me how can i recieve the emails at once from this
mailing list?
I get a digest mail , one a day.
regards
Mohit

#570 From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 8, 2006 11:07 am
Subject:: cant come on sunday!
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i think those who came for 2 fridays cant come on sunday ! this is a problem with me ! otherwise i can put up whole friday with clug. so lets meet at DAV 6:15 pm


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#569 From: Nipun Jain <nipun_jain@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 8, 2006 12:19 pm
Subject:: RE: Where and when is the meeting this Friday
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Hey all.

I don't think there was any meeting scheduled for the last friday. Atleast I
didn't get any mail regarding the same. I am not coming today for the meeting
(if any) as I am busy with my exams. Let's meet sometime next week. What say you
all?

Nipun.

PS: I think the reason for nobody's showing up, is that the meeting once a week
are too frequent. We should talk about this on the next meet.




________________________________
> To: linux_chandigarh@...
> From: smsmohit@...
> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:53:54 -0800
> Subject: Re: [linux_chandigarh] Where and when is the meeting this Friday
>
> .
> .
> .
> Dear Vikas,
> I would be their (DAV College at 6:15PM). Just to update you, no one turned up
last time. I don't know why. Friends can you pls. update why no one came ?
Initially it may seem unworthy but we have to do some casual meets and then we
can do some future planning. I hope to see all of you today evening.
> A nice article which tells how our Indian values are co-related with Open
Source movement:
> http://www.redhat.com/magazine/025nov06/features/intellectual_india/
> Thanking you
> With warm regards
> Mohit Guleria
> .
> .
> .
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
> To: linux_chandigarh@...
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> Subject: [linux_chandigarh] Where and when is the meeting this Friday
> hello all,
> please suggest where should be the meeting this friday and what time!
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#568 From: MoHiT GuLeRiA <smsmohit@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 8, 2006 6:53 am
Subject:: Re: Where and when is the meeting this Friday
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.
.
.
Dear Vikas,

I would be their (DAV College at 6:15PM). Just to update you, no one turned up last time. I don't know why. Friends can you pls. update why no one came ? Initially it may seem unworthy but we have to do some casual meets and then we can do some future planning. I hope to see all of you today evening.

A nice article which tells how our Indian values are co-related with Open Source movement:
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/025nov06/features/intellectual_india/

Thanking you
With warm regards

Mohit Guleria
.
.
.

----- Original Message ----
From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
To: linux_chandigarh@...
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:57:01 PM
Subject: [linux_chandigarh] Where and when is the meeting this Friday

hello all,
please suggest where should be the meeting this friday and what time!


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#567 From: Vikas Gupta <gvikaskc@...>
Date:: Thu Dec 7, 2006 5:27 pm
Subject:: Where and when is the meeting this Friday
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please suggest where should be the meeting this friday and what time!


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#566 From: Jasbir Khehra <jasbir.k@...>
Date:: Thu Dec 7, 2006 3:29 pm
Subject:: Re: [Fwd: [ilugd] Lecture on PHP, YUI and Javascript] @Banglore by Rasmus Lerdorf himself!!
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Hemant Saraf wrote:
>
>
> HI All,
>
> Rasmus Lerdorf was at FOSS.IN on Nov 24th-25th & 26th at Bangalore...
> and spoke for about 3 hours on PHP as a keynote speaker of the day...
>
> You can download his video from foss.in
>
> And if this video is not there yet... wait for a few more days... it
> will be there soon..
>
> Hemant
>

Hi Hemant,
Thanks for the info.Did you attend FOSS.IN ?

#565 From: Hemant Saraf <hemant_saraf@...>
Date:: Thu Dec 7, 2006 11:01 am
Subject:: Re: [Fwd: [ilugd] Lecture on PHP, YUI and Javascript] @Banglore by Rasmus Lerdorf himself!!
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HI All,

Rasmus Lerdorf was at FOSS.IN on Nov 24th-25th & 26th at Bangalore... and spoke for about 3 hours on PHP as a keynote speaker of the day...

You can download his video from foss.in

And if this video is not there yet... wait for a few more days... it will be there soon..

Hemant

Jasbir Khehra <jasbir.k@...> wrote:
Amit Mittal wrote:

> dear all
> that may be disasterous for windows users, as windows
> updates are requisite for protection! rather allow
> them with following modification:
>
> iptables -A FORWORD -d update.microsoft.com -m tcp -p
> tcp -m --dstlimit 5/sec -j ACCEPT
> iptables -A FORWARD -d update.microsoft.com -j DROP
>
> the above says that "connect update.microsoft.com only
> at speed rate 5 packets per seconds". - (bandwidth
> throatleing?)
>
> But I employ some more effort to have both of the
> things: I have put a proxy/cache server, I narrow
> bandwidth in day time (-m time), users hit cache
> server all the time and get updates instantly! No
> dusplicate download on clients! Proxy/cache has 50G
> disk cache, with DNS cache, large memory blocks etc.
> For this you have to compile Squid.
>
> amit
> chandigarh
> 9876229933
>
> --- Jasbir Khehra <jasbk@gmail.com <mailto:jasbk%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >
> > --
> > Bandwidth Saver
> > iptables -I FORWARD -d update.micr0s0ft.com -j
> > REJECT
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:10:53 +0100 (CET)
> > From: rajlist@rajshekhar.net <mailto:rajlist%40rajshekhar.net>
> > To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org <mailto:ilugd%40lists.linux-delhi.org>
> > Subject: [ilugd] Lecture on PHP, YUI and Javascript
> >
> > There will be a public lecture in Bangalore at the
> > Taj Westend hotel on
> > Monday the 27th November at 2pm. Rasmus Lerdorf will
> > speak about PHP and a
> > couple of other guys will speak on webdev topics
> >
> > More details
> > http://bluesmoon.livejournal.com/242479.html
> <http://bluesmoon.livejournal.com/242479.html> and
> > http://teemus.livejournal.com/233234.html
> <http://teemus.livejournal.com/233234.html>
> >
>
> .
>
Hi , just to stop this confusion, this post is regarding "A Lecture on
PHP" as also what is implied by the "Subject" header and not what Amit
here is taking about, who has mistaken my signature for something else.
BR,
Jasbir
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#564 From: "Niraj Sahay" <niraj@...>
Date:: Wed Dec 6, 2006 7:56 am
Subject:: [Commercial] Share Your views with LINUX For You
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Greetings from the LINUX For You magazine team!

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#563 From: "Niraj Sahay" <niraj@...>
Date:: Sat Dec 2, 2006 10:28 am
Subject:: [Commercial]LINUX For You - December 2006: Highlights
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#562 From: MoHiT GuLeRiA <smsmohit@...>
Date:: Fri Dec 1, 2006 9:15 am
Subject:: Linux Distributions
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Dear Friends,

In last two meets we all have been discussing various distributions. Most of us agreed that Ubuntu is better for the desktops and CentOS for running servers. I think Ubuntu and its derivatives like Kbuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu are good for people who have some
interest  and knowledge of Linux. To motivate and make someone use Linux we need more easy and pre customized version. Something like Xandros or Linspire (ex Lindows) which is more similar to MS-Windows, mainly XP and where it is more easy to install additional softwares. But both of them come for a price and are not FREE (free as in beer or free as in speech, i still have to understand the lingo). It won't be easy to convince someone not to buy "XP Starter Edition" (costs $30 - $40) instead of Xandros or Linspire which come at double the price for basic computing.


Recently I came across a an article comparing:


Linspire Five-0
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED 10) and
Xandros Business Desktop Linux.

I agree with them. Looking at Linspire I found that they have recently launched FREESPIRE its open source/free derivative. Linspire/Lindows have been in this domain since long and have the experience to give a stable distro. It looks good, I will install it soon and hope that Linspire wouldn't have done the same with it i.e. what RedHat did to Fedora. So friends lets investigate/research more into it, if promoting Linux is one of the objectives of our group. And pls. update the group about its pros and cons.


Thanking you
With warm regards

Mohit Guleria

Ref:
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=193700673&pgno=1&queryText=
http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Quick_Tour_of_Freespire



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#561 From: Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@...>
Date:: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:43 pm
Subject:: Re: {Disarmed} Horde on Centos 4
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>
> Any body installed Horde. I want some help on configuring Horde on
> Centos 4
>

its in the centos repo's, http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories for more info

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