Hi,

piyush kumar wrote:
> But the problem with para-virt. guests is ...that
> theres' NO XEN image available for CentOS 3.4---which

I am quite interested in this. exactly why do you need CentOS-3 ?

> I am still finding EASY ways for configuring XEN.....

virt-install and virsh are the easiest way to manage any virtualisation setup
I've seen so far, and they are both included in CentOS-5.

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>
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> the problem is that although i can easily do so at my home, it's
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>
> I have a Dataone connection at home which is easy to
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> to do so there. There is one main computer and all other computers are
> linked through it.
>
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>
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>
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First of all, let me introduce myself a bit :)

I Dr Balwinder Singh "bsd" Dheeman, male, around 30 in hex ;),
married,  am an avid Unix user since 1996. Plz check
http://cto.homelinux.net/~bsd/about/ page to know more about me.

I have been maintaining a small collection of CD/DVD's for various
distributions, here @ http://cto.homelinux.net/distros is a list of
some readily available ones. In addition the these I shall/can also
arrange to manage downloading others, in case you direly need it.

Although I remain overly busy and, or overloaded, but I try my best to
spread F/LOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) as much as I can do.

Thanks,
Regards,
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Anu'z Linux@HOME                      Machines: #168573, 170593, 259192
Chandigarh, UT, 160062, India         Gentoo, Fedora, Knoppix/FreeBSD
Home: http://cto.homelinux.net/~bsd/  Visit: http://counter.li.org/

Hi,
ILUG-D ( Indian LinuxUserGroup -Delhi) has been conducting freedel a
OSS event for the last couple of years. This year its changed from
freedel to freed.in - so that it is community driven rather than
ILUG-D driven. Go to the freed.in website and register. Its time
Chandigarh LUG starts to shows its presence :)

Attaching below email from Freed.In representative, please put forth
your ideas for some constructive way for participating in this event.
( and also cc to Sudev your replies to this post )

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sudev Barar <sbarar@...>
Date: Sep 1, 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Chandigarh LUG
To: Jasbir Khehra <jasbir.k@...>


On 01/09/07, Jasbir Khehra <jasbir.k@...> wrote:
> Now to the Chd LUG taking part , I am forwarding your original mail to
> the LUG mailing list ( at the moment hosted at yahoo groups). Will
> push for as much participation from the LUG for freed.in .
> What are other specific  areas beside just showing up there that Chd
> LUG can contribute to the event ?

We need your ideas of what all you can do!! We are starting to build
this event - that is why change from freedel to freed.in - so that it
is community driven rather than ILUG-D driven.

Of course it may be late for this event but if interested people show
up we can then start planning towards the next event and make it
bigger and more participative.

--
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leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007,
New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at
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clones; plz check http://cto.homelinux.net/distros page for details.

People near or around Chandigarh may freely contact me for getting their
blanks burned only at the cost of smile :)

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those are freely and legally available somewhere via Internet.

I shall/can also arrange to manage downloading of the images already
available with me possible via ftp, http and, or BT for people remote to
Chandigarh.

Thank you,
Regards,
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Hi Piyush,

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 piyush kumar wrote :
>Thanks Bhagat for ur quick reply!!!
>Just FYI....
>
>I have already tested VMware WS--- and found its
>performance very slow.
>
>I never tried other options......But I have configured
>a para-virtualized  & fully-virtualized guests using
>XEN on CentOS-5 and found para-vitualized guests
>working very well compared to fully-virt. guests.
>
>But the problem with para-virt. guests is ...that
>theres' NO XEN image available for CentOS 3.4---which
>is required for my project ---

But there are XEN images for CentOS 4 and 5. Why do you wanna stay with CentOS 3.4 ?

And if you ARE hell-bent on CentOS 3.4, why don't you just go for anoterh alternative like VirtualBox ?

Thanks,
Raseel
www.opensourcedeal.com
http://screwgoth.blogspex.com

  Hi Piyush

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 piyush_us2002 wrote :
>Anybody tell me about Xen installation and configuration on CentOS. I
>want fully virtualized Guest OS. and around 12-13 guest hosts on
>single physical machine(having 32 GB RAM).

I have not personally tried Xen, but I use VirtualBox (which is a Open source software). It is a Vmware clone and works nicely .
There are binaries available for RHEL 4 & 5 at :
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
So, I'm pretty sure it'll work with CentOS as well.

Another thing that you can do is use Vmware workstation for Linux from:
http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/

I have VT flag enabled
>processors...so no problem for Fully-virtualized guests.
>

Since your hardware is optimised for virtualization as well, you can even try the Linux KVM (Kernel Virtual Machine) from :
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kvm

However, I have not used this one myself and am in no position to tell you how good or bad it is.

>Also, please tell me how can i re-image from one guest image...as i
>dont' want to do same process (installing OS and all) for 13 hosts.
>
If I'm not mistaken, in all the Virtual Machine managers, (I know for sure in VirtualBox and Vmware), you have an option to "clone" your virtual machine so you do not have to do the same process over and over again.


Do let us know, what you finally chose, why  and what was the performance you got.

Thanks,
Raseel
http://www.opensourcedeal.com
http://screwgoth.blogspex.com

Thanks Bhagat for ur quick reply!!!
Just FYI....

I have already tested VMware WS--- and found its
performance very slow.

I never tried other options......But I have configured
a para-virtualized  & fully-virtualized guests using
XEN on CentOS-5 and found para-vitualized guests
working very well compared to fully-virt. guests.

But the problem with para-virt. guests is ...that
theres' NO XEN image available for CentOS 3.4---which
is required for my project ---for Migrating from
single dedicated machines to some 3 High grade Dell
2950 servers hving 32 GB Ram and 1.5 TB of hard
Disk....a combo of Quad-core processors..To save Rack
space & power consumption at our organisations' Data
Centers in San Mateo/Franc.....

I am still finding EASY ways for configuring XEN.....

Thanks
Piyush
Mo: 9891431061

--- Raseel Bhagat <raseelbhagat@...> wrote:

>   Hi Piyush
>
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 piyush_us2002 wrote :
> >Anybody tell me about Xen installation and
> configuration on CentOS. I
> >want fully virtualized Guest OS. and around 12-13
> guest hosts on
> >single physical machine(having 32 GB RAM).
>
> I have not personally tried Xen, but I use
> VirtualBox (which is a Open source software). It is
> a Vmware clone and works nicely .
> There are binaries available for RHEL 4 & 5 at :
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
> So, I'm pretty sure it'll work with CentOS as well.
>
> Another thing that you can do is use Vmware
> workstation for Linux from:
> http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/
>
> I have VT flag enabled
> >processors...so no problem for Fully-virtualized
> guests.
> >
>
> Since your hardware is optimised for virtualization
> as well, you can even try the Linux KVM (Kernel
> Virtual Machine) from :
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kvm
>
> However, I have not used this one myself and am in
> no position to tell you how good or bad it is.
>
> >Also, please tell me how can i re-image from one
> guest image...as i
> >dont' want to do same process (installing OS and
> all) for 13 hosts.
> >
> If I'm not mistaken, in all the Virtual Machine
> managers, (I know for sure in VirtualBox and
> Vmware), you have an option to "clone" your virtual
> machine so you do not have to do the same process
> over and over again.
>
>
> Do let us know, what you finally chose, why  and
> what was the performance you got.
>
> Thanks,
> Raseel
> http://www.opensourcedeal.com
> http://screwgoth.blogspex.com
>
>
>



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I have found that the 'cheapest' way to get a DVD when I need it (and
faster than my downloading it) is through a service provider. I am
happy with the one I am using but various links for vendors in India
are available at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors#head-57e003186fd5c0cb6b\
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The vendors above are able to supply no just Fedora but many other
distributions as well.

For those upgrading systems, I came across the following very
interesting post on upgrading fc6 to fc7 online
http://www.ioncannon.net/linux/68/upgrading-from-fc6-to-fedora7-with-yum/

Since we cannot upgrade a system online with our bandwidth, I adopted
the solution above by copying the contents of the dvd on the harddisk
and found it useful for my family systems.
http://growingoldermaybewiser.blogspot.com/2007/06/upgrading-to-fedora-7-on-mach\
ine.html

Regards
Anil

Anybody tell me about Xen installation and configuration on CentOS. I
want fully virtualized Guest OS. and around 12-13 guest hosts on
single physical machine(having 32 GB RAM). I have VT flag enabled
processors...so no problem for Fully-virtualized guests.

Also, please tell me how can i re-image from one guest image...as i
dont' want to do same process (installing OS and all) for 13 hosts.

Please help!!!!!


Thanks,
-Piyush

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sorry, but it didnt work out
What did not work? See, download a live cd from fedora or request it or request it in the mailing list. boot cd from that. if it works all fine, you can install it from there itself, else there is a problem
regards
Mohit

On 8/9/07, babul bansal <ja_ligrup@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Hi,

sorry, but it didnt work out, Fedora has written dat dey support all drivers, but all i n vain. I have tried with Fed6, i couldnt find out Fed7, plz help me out.

Thanx.

mohit puri <leo.mohit@gmail.com> wrote:

"Now can u tell provide me FC7 Cd's. But tell , how can i know that it will work on my hardware as I have an assembled pc."

1) try installing using a cd/dvd (preferably the single bootable disk that they have from fedora 7)

2) see the link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-640c24d1609de5de1e7955fc46743cc017e77d75

You can compare your hardware individually and see if that is supported..

If you ask me, 1 is easier to do
Regards
Mohit

On 8/7/07, babul bansal <ja_ligrup@yahoo.co.in > wrote:

Hi,

I can take it as an answer, but dis is not the solution , may be i have to satisfy myself. But thanx anyway.

Now can u tell provide me FC7 Cd's. But tell , how can i know that it will work on my hardware as I have an assembled pc.

Plz help.
Reply.

Anil Seth <seth.anil@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

As a general rule,

1. Use as new a distribution as available. New motherboards may not be
supported on older versions. When I bought my system, making sound
work on FC6 was a pain. FC7 installation, 3 months later, was very
smooth.

2. Corporate distributions like RHEL support less varied hardware.
Stability is critical for them.
Check the redhat site for supported hardware - https://hardware.redhat.com/
If RHEL is critical, select the hardware from the supported list. It
is safer and will save time.

3. Distributions like Fedora or Ubuntu are more likely to work on a
wider range of hardware. Knoppix is also very useful for testing and
diagnosing hardware issues.

Regards
Anil

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"Now can u tell provide me FC7 Cd's. But tell , how can i know that it will work on my hardware as I have an assembled pc."

1) try installing using a cd/dvd (preferably the single bootable disk that they have from fedora 7)

2) see the link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-640c24d1609de5de1e7955fc46743cc017e77d75

You can compare your hardware individually and see if that is supported..

If you ask me, 1 is easier to do
Regards
Mohit

On 8/7/07, babul bansal <ja_ligrup@yahoo.co.in > wrote:

Hi,

I can take it as an answer, but dis is not the solution , may be i have to satisfy myself. But thanx anyway.

Now can u tell provide me FC7 Cd's. But tell , how can i know that it will work on my hardware as I have an assembled pc.

Plz help.
Reply.

Anil Seth <seth.anil@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

As a general rule,

1. Use as new a distribution as available. New motherboards may not be
supported on older versions. When I bought my system, making sound
work on FC6 was a pain. FC7 installation, 3 months later, was very
smooth.

2. Corporate distributions like RHEL support less varied hardware.
Stability is critical for them.
Check the redhat site for supported hardware - https://hardware.redhat.com/
If RHEL is critical, select the hardware from the supported list. It
is safer and will save time.

3. Distributions like Fedora or Ubuntu are more likely to work on a
wider range of hardware. Knoppix is also very useful for testing and
diagnosing hardware issues.

Regards
Anil

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Hi,

As a general rule,

1. Use as new a distribution as available. New motherboards may not be
supported on older versions. When I bought my system, making sound
work on FC6 was a pain. FC7 installation, 3 months later, was very
smooth.

2. Corporate distributions like RHEL support less varied hardware.
Stability is critical for them.
Check the redhat site for supported hardware - https://hardware.redhat.com/
If RHEL is critical, select the hardware from the supported list. It
is safer and will save time.

3. Distributions like Fedora or Ubuntu are more likely to work on a
wider range of hardware. Knoppix is also very useful for testing and
diagnosing hardware issues.

Regards
Anil

Hi,

As a general rule,

1. Use as new a distribution as available. New motherboards may not be
supported on older versions. When I bought my system, making sound
work on FC6 was a pain. FC7 installation, 3 months later, was very
smooth.

2. Corporate distributions like RHEL support less varied hardware.
Stability is critical for them.
Check the redhat site for supported hardware - https://hardware.redhat.com/
If RHEL is critical, select the hardware from the supported list. It
is safer and will save time.

3. Distributions like Fedora or Ubuntu are more likely to work on a
wider range of hardware. Knoppix is also very useful for testing and
diagnosing hardware issues.

Regards
Anil