Hi Zabil,

Thanks a lot for the CD.

I tried it out and am positively impressed by the
simple and elegant interface.
My system at home is a 500MHz PIII. Susie and FC3 are
quite slow on this and I always thought the problem
was with the old system and the KDE/GNOME desktops
which hog resources.

Ubuntu proved that my assumptions were wrong.

I need to add a few other educational softwares though
for our purpose.

cheers
Shiv


--- Zabil Cheriya Maliackal <zabilcm@...> wrote:

> Hello Sanjeev,
>  Well things are fine at ATMS.
>  I will be showing Shiv around the place and give a
> brief about the
> installation and the set up.
>  It is after the summer vacation that Linux will be
> put  through the
> grind at ATMS.
> 	  Meanhwile here are other alternatives to thin
> client solutions that I
> stumbled across on the web
>
> http://pxes.sourceforge.net/
> http://thinstation.sourceforge.net/
>
> Might be of interest to people who would be looking
> for an ATMS like
> solution.
>
> -Zabil
>
> On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 09:11 -0700,
> coverify@... wrote:
> > Hello Shiv,
> > You should visit ATMS and take a look at the
> setup.
> > There are a total of 5 disless clients with 1 P4
> > server with 1GB ram. There are 4 legacy windows
> mc's
> > that can serve as diskless client with floppy
> boot.
> > Please get the directions from Zabil.
> >
> > How are you doing Zabil ? I got swamped after the
> > month in Blore and then had tax returns on April
> 15th.
> >
> > I have received some reports from ATMS that the
> kids
> > dont have any problem with linux.
> >
> > -sanjeev
> >
> > --- Zabil Cheriya Maliackal <zabilcm@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello Shiv,
> > > I have been involved with Sanjeev for setting up
> > > LTSP at Atma Shree. I
> > > will be be available after 24th of this month
> and
> > > dueing that I can show
> > > you the set up at the school.
> > > If you have existing machines with hard disks
> that
> > > you need to convert
> > > to linux then I do not suggest that you go for
> LTSP
> > > because the system
> > > requirement of K12LTSP (The ready made LTSP and
> > > educational
> > > distribution) is quite high. On an optimum you
> would
> > > require more than
> > > 256 MB RAM on the machines.
> > > The best would be to go for a Debian based
> > > distribution where you can
> > > install the base and then keep on adding
> packages.
> > >
> > > The base installation will run ok on a 68 MB RAM
> > > machine.
> > >
> > > The best part about a Debian distribution is
> ability
> > > to upgrade quite
> > > easily and a amazing range of software support.
> > >
> > > I can give you cd's of Ubuntu Hoary
> > > (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CD's
> > > My contact number is
> > > 9845 171 484
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Zabil
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 12:28 +0000, Shivakumar GN
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi ppl,
> > > >
> > > > I am new to this list. I am currently working
> > > towards setting up a
> > > > computer lab for a govt primary school at
> > > Madivala(Bangalore). The
> > > > audience is students in class 5, 6 & 7.
> > > > I went through the previous posts in the list
> and
> > > found the message
> > > > exhange to be just right for me. The details
> > > mentioned by sanjeev in
> > > > one of his earlier posts would pretty much
> apply
> > > to me as well.
> > > >
> > > > The following needs to be done (during the
> current
> > > summer vacation)
> > > > * Putting a curriculum in place
> > > > * Putting the right set of softwares resources
> > > > * Set up the LAN
> > > > Subsequently a set teachers and students are
> to be
> > > trained.
> > > >
> > > > Does any one have a distro customized for this
> > > purpose which I can
> > > > borrow. Since you guys already have the
> > > implementation experience, Can
> > > > one of you help me with the same. Laxman from
> > > Ahmedabad has mentioned
> > > > about a set of 4 CDs that he has just for such
> > > purpose. Laxman, can
> > > > you please respond to this mail.
> > > >
> > > > I have a set of 10 systems (P-II & P-III).
> > > >
> > > > Also LTSP is something new to me. Am going
> through
> > > the details on the
> > > > web. The systems I have already have hard
> disks.
> > > In such a case would
> > > > it still be better to go the LTSP way?
> > > > I would like to visit "Atma shree education
> > > association" sometime to
> > > > have a look.
> > > >
> > > > thanks & cheers
> > > > Shiv
> > > > ======================
> > > > Contact: 94480 84542
> > > > Place  : Bangalore
> > > >
> > > > ps: I had previously sent this mail through my
> > > mailid. Strangely it
> > > > neither bounced nor appeared in the message
> list.
> > > Resending from the
> > > > yahoogroups site.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I just joined the group. I am working for a
> non
> > > profit organization
> > > > > (www.hohinc.org) and we are planning to
> setup a
> > > school computer lab
> > > > > in Bangalore. The address of the school is-
> > > > >
> > > > > ATMA SHREE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
> > > > > 7th MAIN ROAD THAYAGARAGANAGAR,
> > > > > BANGALORE 560028 INDIA
> > > > >
> > > > > I am looking for resources that could -
> > > > > 1. Support the hardware
> > > > > 2. Syllabus based on open source software
> for
> > > children of class 1
> > > > > to Xth.
> > > > > Since the standard of English is not very
> good,
> > > are there any
> > > > > support for "Kannada" language.
> > > > > 3. Are there any such center in Bangalore
> that
> > > we can contact.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > sanjeev
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Sanjeev
> > > > > You can follow the syllabus that the board
> is
> > > having
> > > > > as there are alternative to all proprietary
> > > software
> > > > > in OSS. We have put together them in 4 CDs.
> Once
> > > you
> > > > > start we can give you the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are located in Ahmedabad.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards.. Laxman
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Hello Sanjeev,
	 Well things are fine at ATMS.
	 I will be showing Shiv around the place and give a brief about the
installation and the set up.
	 It is after the summer vacation that Linux will be put  through the
grind at ATMS.
	   Meanhwile here are other alternatives to thin client solutions that I
stumbled across on the web

http://pxes.sourceforge.net/
http://thinstation.sourceforge.net/

Might be of interest to people who would be looking for an ATMS like
solution.

-Zabil

On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 09:11 -0700, coverify@... wrote:
> Hello Shiv,
> You should visit ATMS and take a look at the setup.
> There are a total of 5 disless clients with 1 P4
> server with 1GB ram. There are 4 legacy windows mc's
> that can serve as diskless client with floppy boot.
> Please get the directions from Zabil.
>
> How are you doing Zabil ? I got swamped after the
> month in Blore and then had tax returns on April 15th.
>
> I have received some reports from ATMS that the kids
> dont have any problem with linux.
>
> -sanjeev
>
> --- Zabil Cheriya Maliackal <zabilcm@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Shiv,
> > I have been involved with Sanjeev for setting up
> > LTSP at Atma Shree. I
> > will be be available after 24th of this month and
> > dueing that I can show
> > you the set up at the school.
> > If you have existing machines with hard disks that
> > you need to convert
> > to linux then I do not suggest that you go for LTSP
> > because the system
> > requirement of K12LTSP (The ready made LTSP and
> > educational
> > distribution) is quite high. On an optimum you would
> > require more than
> > 256 MB RAM on the machines.
> > The best would be to go for a Debian based
> > distribution where you can
> > install the base and then keep on adding packages.
> >
> > The base installation will run ok on a 68 MB RAM
> > machine.
> >
> > The best part about a Debian distribution is ability
> > to upgrade quite
> > easily and a amazing range of software support.
> >
> > I can give you cd's of Ubuntu Hoary
> > (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CD's
> > My contact number is
> > 9845 171 484
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Zabil
> >
> > On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 12:28 +0000, Shivakumar GN
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi ppl,
> > >
> > > I am new to this list. I am currently working
> > towards setting up a
> > > computer lab for a govt primary school at
> > Madivala(Bangalore). The
> > > audience is students in class 5, 6 & 7.
> > > I went through the previous posts in the list and
> > found the message
> > > exhange to be just right for me. The details
> > mentioned by sanjeev in
> > > one of his earlier posts would pretty much apply
> > to me as well.
> > >
> > > The following needs to be done (during the current
> > summer vacation)
> > > * Putting a curriculum in place
> > > * Putting the right set of softwares resources
> > > * Set up the LAN
> > > Subsequently a set teachers and students are to be
> > trained.
> > >
> > > Does any one have a distro customized for this
> > purpose which I can
> > > borrow. Since you guys already have the
> > implementation experience, Can
> > > one of you help me with the same. Laxman from
> > Ahmedabad has mentioned
> > > about a set of 4 CDs that he has just for such
> > purpose. Laxman, can
> > > you please respond to this mail.
> > >
> > > I have a set of 10 systems (P-II & P-III).
> > >
> > > Also LTSP is something new to me. Am going through
> > the details on the
> > > web. The systems I have already have hard disks.
> > In such a case would
> > > it still be better to go the LTSP way?
> > > I would like to visit "Atma shree education
> > association" sometime to
> > > have a look.
> > >
> > > thanks & cheers
> > > Shiv
> > > ======================
> > > Contact: 94480 84542
> > > Place  : Bangalore
> > >
> > > ps: I had previously sent this mail through my
> > mailid. Strangely it
> > > neither bounced nor appeared in the message list.
> > Resending from the
> > > yahoogroups site.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I just joined the group. I am working for a non
> > profit organization
> > > > (www.hohinc.org) and we are planning to setup a
> > school computer lab
> > > > in Bangalore. The address of the school is-
> > > >
> > > > ATMA SHREE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
> > > > 7th MAIN ROAD THAYAGARAGANAGAR,
> > > > BANGALORE 560028 INDIA
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for resources that could -
> > > > 1. Support the hardware
> > > > 2. Syllabus based on open source software for
> > children of class 1
> > > > to Xth.
> > > > Since the standard of English is not very good,
> > are there any
> > > > support for "Kannada" language.
> > > > 3. Are there any such center in Bangalore that
> > we can contact.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > sanjeev
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Sanjeev
> > > > You can follow the syllabus that the board is
> > having
> > > > as there are alternative to all proprietary
> > software
> > > > in OSS. We have put together them in 4 CDs. Once
> > you
> > > > start we can give you the same.
> > > >
> > > > We are located in Ahmedabad.
> > > >
> > > > Regards.. Laxman
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >       * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > >
> > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_schools/
> > >
> > >       * To unsubscribe from this group, send an
> > email to:
> > >
> > linux_schools-unsubscribe@...
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Thanks sanjeev. I have contacted Zabil regarding this.
He is available after 24th subsequent to which I'll
visit ATMS.

-Shiv


--- coverify@... wrote:
> Hello Shiv,
> You should visit ATMS and take a look at the setup.
> There are a total of 5 disless clients with 1 P4
> server with 1GB ram. There are 4 legacy windows mc's
> that can serve as diskless client with floppy boot.
> Please get the directions from Zabil.
>
> How are you doing Zabil ? I got swamped after the
> month in Blore and then had tax returns on April
> 15th.
>
> I have received some reports from ATMS that the kids
> dont have any problem with linux.
>
> -sanjeev
>
> --- Zabil Cheriya Maliackal <zabilcm@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Shiv,
> > I have been involved with Sanjeev for setting up
> > LTSP at Atma Shree. I
> > will be be available after 24th of this month and
> > dueing that I can show
> > you the set up at the school.
> > If you have existing machines with hard disks that
> > you need to convert
> > to linux then I do not suggest that you go for
> LTSP
> > because the system
> > requirement of K12LTSP (The ready made LTSP and
> > educational
> > distribution) is quite high. On an optimum you
> would
> > require more than
> > 256 MB RAM on the machines.
> > The best would be to go for a Debian based
> > distribution where you can
> > install the base and then keep on adding packages.
> >
> > The base installation will run ok on a 68 MB RAM
> > machine.
> >
> > The best part about a Debian distribution is
> ability
> > to upgrade quite
> > easily and a amazing range of software support.
> >
> > I can give you cd's of Ubuntu Hoary
> > (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CD's
> > My contact number is
> > 9845 171 484
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Zabil
> >
> > On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 12:28 +0000, Shivakumar GN
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi ppl,
> > >
> > > I am new to this list. I am currently working
> > towards setting up a
> > > computer lab for a govt primary school at
> > Madivala(Bangalore). The
> > > audience is students in class 5, 6 & 7.
> > > I went through the previous posts in the list
> and
> > found the message
> > > exhange to be just right for me. The details
> > mentioned by sanjeev in
> > > one of his earlier posts would pretty much apply
> > to me as well.
> > >
> > > The following needs to be done (during the
> current
> > summer vacation)
> > > * Putting a curriculum in place
> > > * Putting the right set of softwares resources
> > > * Set up the LAN
> > > Subsequently a set teachers and students are to
> be
> > trained.
> > >
> > > Does any one have a distro customized for this
> > purpose which I can
> > > borrow. Since you guys already have the
> > implementation experience, Can
> > > one of you help me with the same. Laxman from
> > Ahmedabad has mentioned
> > > about a set of 4 CDs that he has just for such
> > purpose. Laxman, can
> > > you please respond to this mail.
> > >
> > > I have a set of 10 systems (P-II & P-III).
> > >
> > > Also LTSP is something new to me. Am going
> through
> > the details on the
> > > web. The systems I have already have hard disks.
> > In such a case would
> > > it still be better to go the LTSP way?
> > > I would like to visit "Atma shree education
> > association" sometime to
> > > have a look.
> > >
> > > thanks & cheers
> > > Shiv
> > > ======================
> > > Contact: 94480 84542
> > > Place  : Bangalore
> > >
> > > ps: I had previously sent this mail through my
> > mailid. Strangely it
> > > neither bounced nor appeared in the message
> list.
> > Resending from the
> > > yahoogroups site.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I just joined the group. I am working for a
> non
> > profit organization
> > > > (www.hohinc.org) and we are planning to setup
> a
> > school computer lab
> > > > in Bangalore. The address of the school is-
> > > >
> > > > ATMA SHREE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
> > > > 7th MAIN ROAD THAYAGARAGANAGAR,
> > > > BANGALORE 560028 INDIA
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for resources that could -
> > > > 1. Support the hardware
> > > > 2. Syllabus based on open source software for
> > children of class 1
> > > > to Xth.
> > > > Since the standard of English is not very
> good,
> > are there any
> > > > support for "Kannada" language.
> > > > 3. Are there any such center in Bangalore that
> > we can contact.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > sanjeev
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Sanjeev
> > > > You can follow the syllabus that the board is
> > having
> > > > as there are alternative to all proprietary
> > software
> > > > in OSS. We have put together them in 4 CDs.
> Once
> > you
> > > > start we can give you the same.
> > > >
> > > > We are located in Ahmedabad.
> > > >
> > > > Regards.. Laxman
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
______________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >       * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > >
> > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_schools/
> > >
> > >       * To unsubscribe from this group, send an
> > email to:
> > >
> > linux_schools-unsubscribe@...
> > >
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Hello Shiv,
You should visit ATMS and take a look at the setup.
There are a total of 5 disless clients with 1 P4
server with 1GB ram. There are 4 legacy windows mc's
that can serve as diskless client with floppy boot.
Please get the directions from Zabil.

How are you doing Zabil ? I got swamped after the
month in Blore and then had tax returns on April 15th.

I have received some reports from ATMS that the kids
dont have any problem with linux.

-sanjeev

--- Zabil Cheriya Maliackal <zabilcm@...> wrote:

>
> Hello Shiv,
> I have been involved with Sanjeev for setting up
> LTSP at Atma Shree. I
> will be be available after 24th of this month and
> dueing that I can show
> you the set up at the school.
> If you have existing machines with hard disks that
> you need to convert
> to linux then I do not suggest that you go for LTSP
> because the system
> requirement of K12LTSP (The ready made LTSP and
> educational
> distribution) is quite high. On an optimum you would
> require more than
> 256 MB RAM on the machines.
> The best would be to go for a Debian based
> distribution where you can
> install the base and then keep on adding packages.
>
> The base installation will run ok on a 68 MB RAM
> machine.
>
> The best part about a Debian distribution is ability
> to upgrade quite
> easily and a amazing range of software support.
>
> I can give you cd's of Ubuntu Hoary
> (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CD's
> My contact number is
> 9845 171 484
>
> Thank you,
> Zabil
>
> On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 12:28 +0000, Shivakumar GN
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi ppl,
> >
> > I am new to this list. I am currently working
> towards setting up a
> > computer lab for a govt primary school at
> Madivala(Bangalore). The
> > audience is students in class 5, 6 & 7.
> > I went through the previous posts in the list and
> found the message
> > exhange to be just right for me. The details
> mentioned by sanjeev in
> > one of his earlier posts would pretty much apply
> to me as well.
> >
> > The following needs to be done (during the current
> summer vacation)
> > * Putting a curriculum in place
> > * Putting the right set of softwares resources
> > * Set up the LAN
> > Subsequently a set teachers and students are to be
> trained.
> >
> > Does any one have a distro customized for this
> purpose which I can
> > borrow. Since you guys already have the
> implementation experience, Can
> > one of you help me with the same. Laxman from
> Ahmedabad has mentioned
> > about a set of 4 CDs that he has just for such
> purpose. Laxman, can
> > you please respond to this mail.
> >
> > I have a set of 10 systems (P-II & P-III).
> >
> > Also LTSP is something new to me. Am going through
> the details on the
> > web. The systems I have already have hard disks.
> In such a case would
> > it still be better to go the LTSP way?
> > I would like to visit "Atma shree education
> association" sometime to
> > have a look.
> >
> > thanks & cheers
> > Shiv
> > ======================
> > Contact: 94480 84542
> > Place  : Bangalore
> >
> > ps: I had previously sent this mail through my
> mailid. Strangely it
> > neither bounced nor appeared in the message list.
> Resending from the
> > yahoogroups site.
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I just joined the group. I am working for a non
> profit organization
> > > (www.hohinc.org) and we are planning to setup a
> school computer lab
> > > in Bangalore. The address of the school is-
> > >
> > > ATMA SHREE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
> > > 7th MAIN ROAD THAYAGARAGANAGAR,
> > > BANGALORE 560028 INDIA
> > >
> > > I am looking for resources that could -
> > > 1. Support the hardware
> > > 2. Syllabus based on open source software for
> children of class 1
> > > to Xth.
> > > Since the standard of English is not very good,
> are there any
> > > support for "Kannada" language.
> > > 3. Are there any such center in Bangalore that
> we can contact.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > sanjeev
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Sanjeev
> > > You can follow the syllabus that the board is
> having
> > > as there are alternative to all proprietary
> software
> > > in OSS. We have put together them in 4 CDs. Once
> you
> > > start we can give you the same.
> > >
> > > We are located in Ahmedabad.
> > >
> > > Regards.. Laxman
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Zabil,

Thanks for the mail. I would like to discuss your
suggestions in detail. I would also like to visit Atma
Shree Foundation sometime.
I'll give a call once you are back.

thanks & bye
Shiv


--- Zabil Cheriya Maliackal <zabilcm@...> wrote:

>
> Hello Shiv,
> I have been involved with Sanjeev for setting up
> LTSP at Atma Shree. I
> will be be available after 24th of this month and
> dueing that I can show
> you the set up at the school.
> If you have existing machines with hard disks that
> you need to convert
> to linux then I do not suggest that you go for LTSP
> because the system
> requirement of K12LTSP (The ready made LTSP and
> educational
> distribution) is quite high. On an optimum you would
> require more than
> 256 MB RAM on the machines.
> The best would be to go for a Debian based
> distribution where you can
> install the base and then keep on adding packages.
>
> The base installation will run ok on a 68 MB RAM
> machine.
>
> The best part about a Debian distribution is ability
> to upgrade quite
> easily and a amazing range of software support.
>
> I can give you cd's of Ubuntu Hoary
> (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CD's
> My contact number is
> 9845 171 484
>
> Thank you,
> Zabil
>
> On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 12:28 +0000, Shivakumar GN
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi ppl,
> >
> > I am new to this list. I am currently working
> towards setting up a
> > computer lab for a govt primary school at
> Madivala(Bangalore). The
> > audience is students in class 5, 6 & 7.
> > I went through the previous posts in the list and
> found the message
> > exhange to be just right for me. The details
> mentioned by sanjeev in
> > one of his earlier posts would pretty much apply
> to me as well.
> >
> > The following needs to be done (during the current
> summer vacation)
> > * Putting a curriculum in place
> > * Putting the right set of softwares resources
> > * Set up the LAN
> > Subsequently a set teachers and students are to be
> trained.
> >
> > Does any one have a distro customized for this
> purpose which I can
> > borrow. Since you guys already have the
> implementation experience, Can
> > one of you help me with the same. Laxman from
> Ahmedabad has mentioned
> > about a set of 4 CDs that he has just for such
> purpose. Laxman, can
> > you please respond to this mail.
> >
> > I have a set of 10 systems (P-II & P-III).
> >
> > Also LTSP is something new to me. Am going through
> the details on the
> > web. The systems I have already have hard disks.
> In such a case would
> > it still be better to go the LTSP way?
> > I would like to visit "Atma shree education
> association" sometime to
> > have a look.
> >
> > thanks & cheers
> > Shiv
> > ======================
> > Contact: 94480 84542
> > Place  : Bangalore
> >
> > ps: I had previously sent this mail through my
> mailid. Strangely it
> > neither bounced nor appeared in the message list.
> Resending from the
> > yahoogroups site.
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I just joined the group. I am working for a non
> profit organization
> > > (www.hohinc.org) and we are planning to setup a
> school computer lab
> > > in Bangalore. The address of the school is-
> > >
> > > ATMA SHREE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
> > > 7th MAIN ROAD THAYAGARAGANAGAR,
> > > BANGALORE 560028 INDIA
> > >
> > > I am looking for resources that could -
> > > 1. Support the hardware
> > > 2. Syllabus based on open source software for
> children of class 1
> > > to Xth.
> > > Since the standard of English is not very good,
> are there any
> > > support for "Kannada" language.
> > > 3. Are there any such center in Bangalore that
> we can contact.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > sanjeev
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Sanjeev
> > > You can follow the syllabus that the board is
> having
> > > as there are alternative to all proprietary
> software
> > > in OSS. We have put together them in 4 CDs. Once
> you
> > > start we can give you the same.
> > >
> > > We are located in Ahmedabad.
> > >
> > > Regards.. Laxman
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >       * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> >
> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_schools/
> >
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> email to:
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>
>
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Hello Shiv,
I have been involved with Sanjeev for setting up LTSP at Atma Shree. I
will be be available after 24th of this month and dueing that I can show
you the set up at the school.
If you have existing machines with hard disks that you need to convert
to linux then I do not suggest that you go for LTSP because the system
requirement of K12LTSP (The ready made LTSP and educational
distribution) is quite high. On an optimum you would require more than
256 MB RAM on the machines.
The best would be to go for a Debian based distribution where you can
install the base and then keep on adding packages.

The base installation will run ok on a 68 MB RAM machine.

The best part about a Debian distribution is ability to upgrade quite
easily and a amazing range of software support.

I can give you cd's of Ubuntu Hoary (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CD's
My contact number is
9845 171 484

Thank you,
Zabil

On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 12:28 +0000, Shivakumar GN wrote:
>
>
> Hi ppl,
>
> I am new to this list. I am currently working towards setting up a
> computer lab for a govt primary school at Madivala(Bangalore). The
> audience is students in class 5, 6 & 7.
> I went through the previous posts in the list and found the message
> exhange to be just right for me. The details mentioned by sanjeev in
> one of his earlier posts would pretty much apply to me as well.
>
> The following needs to be done (during the current summer vacation)
> * Putting a curriculum in place
> * Putting the right set of softwares resources
> * Set up the LAN
> Subsequently a set teachers and students are to be trained.
>
> Does any one have a distro customized for this purpose which I can
> borrow. Since you guys already have the implementation experience, Can
> one of you help me with the same. Laxman from Ahmedabad has mentioned
> about a set of 4 CDs that he has just for such purpose. Laxman, can
> you please respond to this mail.
>
> I have a set of 10 systems (P-II & P-III).
>
> Also LTSP is something new to me. Am going through the details on the
> web. The systems I have already have hard disks. In such a case would
> it still be better to go the LTSP way?
> I would like to visit "Atma shree education association" sometime to
> have a look.
>
> thanks & cheers
> Shiv
> ======================
> Contact: 94480 84542
> Place  : Bangalore
>
> ps: I had previously sent this mail through my mailid. Strangely it
> neither bounced nor appeared in the message list. Resending from the
> yahoogroups site.
>
> >
> > Hi,
> > I just joined the group. I am working for a non profit organization
> > (www.hohinc.org) and we are planning to setup a school computer lab
> > in Bangalore. The address of the school is-
> >
> > ATMA SHREE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
> > 7th MAIN ROAD THAYAGARAGANAGAR,
> > BANGALORE 560028 INDIA
> >
> > I am looking for resources that could -
> > 1. Support the hardware
> > 2. Syllabus based on open source software for children of class 1
> > to Xth.
> > Since the standard of English is not very good, are there any
> > support for "Kannada" language.
> > 3. Are there any such center in Bangalore that we can contact.
> >
> > Thanks
> > sanjeev
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Sanjeev
> > You can follow the syllabus that the board is having
> > as there are alternative to all proprietary software
> > in OSS. We have put together them in 4 CDs. Once you
> > start we can give you the same.
> >
> > We are located in Ahmedabad.
> >
> > Regards.. Laxman
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>       * To visit your group on the web, go to:
>         http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_schools/
>
>       * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>         linux_schools-unsubscribe@...
>
>       * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>         Service.
>

Hi ppl,

I am new to this list. I am currently working towards setting up a
computer lab for a govt primary school at Madivala(Bangalore). The
audience is students in class 5, 6 & 7.
I went through the previous posts in the list and found the message
exhange to be just right for me. The details mentioned by sanjeev in
one of his earlier posts would pretty much apply to me as well.

The following needs to be done (during the current summer vacation)
* Putting a curriculum in place
* Putting the right set of softwares resources
* Set up the LAN
Subsequently a set teachers and students are to be trained.

Does any one have a distro customized for this purpose which I can
borrow. Since you guys already have the implementation experience, Can
one of you help me with the same. Laxman from Ahmedabad has mentioned
about a set of 4 CDs that he has just for such purpose. Laxman, can
you please respond to this mail.

I have a set of 10 systems (P-II & P-III).

Also LTSP is something new to me. Am going through the details on the
web. The systems I have already have hard disks. In such a case would
it still be better to go the LTSP way?
I would like to visit "Atma shree education association" sometime to
have a look.

thanks & cheers
Shiv
======================
Contact: 94480 84542
Place  : Bangalore

ps: I had previously sent this mail through my mailid. Strangely it
neither bounced nor appeared in the message list. Resending from the
yahoogroups site.

>
> Hi,
> I just joined the group. I am working for a non profit organization
> (www.hohinc.org) and we are planning to setup a school computer lab
> in Bangalore. The address of the school is-
>
> ATMA SHREE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
> 7th MAIN ROAD THAYAGARAGANAGAR,
> BANGALORE 560028 INDIA
>
> I am looking for resources that could -
> 1. Support the hardware
> 2. Syllabus based on open source software for children of class 1
> to Xth.
> Since the standard of English is not very good, are there any
> support for "Kannada" language.
> 3. Are there any such center in Bangalore that we can contact.
>
> Thanks
> sanjeev
>
>
>
> Dear Sanjeev
> You can follow the syllabus that the board is having
> as there are alternative to all proprietary software
> in OSS. We have put together them in 4 CDs. Once you
> start we can give you the same.
>
> We are located in Ahmedabad.
>
> Regards.. Laxman
>

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Date:  2005/04/12 Tue PM 07:49:57 GMT+05:30
To:  ELEARN-OPENSOURCE@...
Subject:  [IIEP] Hope you are always there!

Dear all,

I just cannot resist to share with you these article and web sites:

1) Blackboard vs. Moodle:

http://www.humboldt.edu/~jdv1/moodle/all.htm

2) NEW - The Network Education Ware Project

http://netlab.gmu.edu/NEW/

3) OpenSourceCMS - Try before you ... install

http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php


Best wishes,
Jean-Claude

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Date:  2005/04/13 Wed AM 07:24:44 GMT+05:30
To:  ELEARN-OPENSOURCE@...
Subject:  [IIEP] Open Source Tool: eXe Release 0.3

Hi everyone,

Great links from Jean-Claude - worth reading.

eXe is a desktop authoring environment to assist teachers and academics in
the publishing of web content for e-learning without the need to become
proficient in HTML or XML mark-up. The eXe is an open source software
project funded by the Tertiary Education Commission of New Zealand. When
completed, it will be freely available for every teacher, lecturer and
academic to use in support of their e-learning activities. This is an early
release of the eXe project.  It is intended to elicit feedback from the user
community.  We expect file formats will change, so don't invest a lot of
time in creating a large package with this release.

Please download eXe and let us know what you think. Later today there will
be an online form where you can give us feedback. This is a great way for
folk who are not programmers or developers to participate in an open source
project.

You will find the survey form at: http://cfdl.auckland.ac.nz/exe_survey
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--- coverify@... wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 19:54:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: <coverify@...>
> Subject: LTSP Setup working
> To: jj3kk@..., Rakesh 'arky' Ambati
> <rakesh_ambati@...>
>
> Hi,
> With help from Zabil, the LTSP setup is working
> fine.
> Currently we have 5 diskless clients and 4 legacy
> windows mc. The windows mc have the option of
> booting
> from floppy and becoming LTSP clients. So in total
> there are 9 clients.
>
> The only thing left is to make the cabling neater.
> Expecting to be done by Friday. The only thing that
> did not work was the scanner. I bought the Benq4300
> USB scanner but it does not work. On invoking "sane"
> I
> get device io error.
>
> Internet is not yet up as I am waiting for BSNL to
> install the modem. We are getting a 256Kb broadband
> for Rs500 per month.(DataOne scheme)
>
> The next focus is on what we would like to teach and
> collecting the materials for it. I will be leaving
> Blore on March 10th and so the coming weekend is the
> last one I have. Please send me any useful links
> (also
> the one with the material Hearald has done). If
> possible I would like to get together this coming
> weekend to come with a syllabus for the school.
>
> Also can you forward this email to other linux users
> in Blore. They are welcome to come to the school
> anytime and also over the weekend to look at the
> setup. They can call me at 9341455165 for
> directions.
> I think this is the first LTSP setup in Blore (I
> love
> to be wrong) and so a little bit of awareness would
> help others.
>
> with regards
> sanjeev
>
>
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Hello

I have uploaded around 20 tuxpaintings done by me at the link below.


http://linuxschools.tripod.com/tuxp1.html

The purpose is to encourage children and even adults to show that we
can enjoy computers by using softwares like tuxpaint.

Send in your tuxpaintings and I will put them up at the groups
website.


Herald.

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, kamathln wrote:


> Hey what about the activites of this group? HWy so down?
> Have you started somewhere else?

If every one of us undertakes the responsibility of posting something
useful, at least once a week, there will be a lot of (useful) activity
here. What say? FN
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Hey what about the activites of this group? HWy so down?
Have you started somewhere else?

Hello members

Latest CDs are made available in Ameerpet

Fedora Core 3, Mandrake 10.1 official, Lormalinux 5.0, Linvertor
bundle of Free softwares for windows (Openoffice 1.1.3,firefox 1.0,
GCompris, tuxpaint and so on )


For phone numbers, timings address etc see the group created solely
for distributing Linux cds in Hyderabad

http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/ignu

Soon K12LTSP 4.2.0 which is based on FC3 will be available.


And Finally Wish you all Happy new year 2005. Let us come together to
make it the year of Linux in India in schools


Herald.

---------- Forwarded message ----------

The TUX&GNU@school column informs about a piece of free educational
software, a web site on the topic and an idea for a useful and sound
program which serves educational purposes.

The 8th edition about GAMGI, a free material education program, about
the projects Skolelinux and KDE Edutainment:

http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/education/tgs/tagatschool8.en.html

Previous editions:
http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/education/tgs/

- Knut Yrvin
--
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translation to Norwegian. Office 1: IT-Staff Akershus County Council,
Schweigaards gate 4, 0185 OSLO, NORWAY.  Office 2: SLX Debian Labs
Forskningsparken, Gaustadalle 21, 0349 OSLO, NORWAY.

Depending on the feedback I got, I had alloted
Rs15,000 for setting up and conducting a 15 day on
site class.

Please tell me an attractive proposal that will
attract  people in LUG and I will bring it to the
board's notice.

I hope that there is no confusion that since it is a
"non profit", only hw would be paid for. Everyone's
time would be compensated for. Similarly once anyone
commits, I would epxect the same level of comitment
from the individual.

It has been our experience in other projects that this
ensures long lasting quality effort.

-sanjeev



--- linux_schools <linux_schools@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In linux_schools@...,
> <coverify@y...> wrote:
>
> > After a lengthy discussion the problem boiled down
> to
> > support. I could not find any local company/person
> in
> > Blore which can support it. I found a sw vendor
> from
> > Kannur that had done this.
> > (http://s2s2net.netfirms.com/index.html)
> > But every one was unsure how out of station
> support
> > would work.
> >
> > Does anyone know of any person that can provide
> > support for LTSP on a need basis. I could then
> propose
> > that we buy the hw from reputed vendor with
> warranty
> > and be left only with support for LTSP from
> private
> > individual on a per need basis. Can this be done
> > remotely ?
> > Does the plan sound feasible ?
> >
> > -sanjeev
> >
>
>
> Hello
>
> I feel its a  great opportunity to train some
> hardware support people
> on LINUX and LTSP  near the school.
>
> The support people could be utilized for any other
> similar projects in
> the future.
>
> If a small advt is given, definitely a lot hardware
> people will come
> forward.
>
> Definitely many members of LUG bangalore may come
> forward to train the
> hardware people,as pointed out by Mr.Jayasimha
> makineni.
>
>
> cheers
> Herald.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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If the schools have Higher education, like 9th/10th std students, 10+2 etc, some smart people from there could be trained as well, Till the teachers catch on. If the teachers are understanding enough, it wont cause ego problems.. What say??? 



On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 linux_schools wrote :
>--- In linux_schools@..., <coverify@y...> wrote:
>> After a lengthy discussion the problem boiled down to
>> support. I could not find any local company/person in
>> Blore which can support it. I found a sw vendor from
>> Kannur that had done this.
>> (
>http://s2s2net.netfirms.com/index.html)
>> But every one was unsure how out of station support
>> would work.
>>
>> Does anyone know of any person that can provide
>> support for LTSP on a need basis. I could then propose
>> that we buy the hw from reputed vendor with warranty
>> and be left only with support for LTSP from private
>> individual on a per need basis. Can this be done
>> remotely ?
>> Does the plan sound feasible ?
>>
>> -sanjeev
>>
>Hello
>I feel its a  great opportunity to train some hardware support people
>on LINUX and LTSP  near the school.
>The support people could be utilized for any other similar projects in
>the future.
>If a small advt is given, definitely a lot hardware people will come
>forward.
>Definitely many members of LUG bangalore may come forward to train the
>hardware people,as pointed out by Mr.Jayasimha makineni.
>cheers
>Herald.
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--- In linux_schools@..., <coverify@y...> wrote:

> After a lengthy discussion the problem boiled down to
> support. I could not find any local company/person in
> Blore which can support it. I found a sw vendor from
> Kannur that had done this.
> (http://s2s2net.netfirms.com/index.html)
> But every one was unsure how out of station support
> would work.
>
> Does anyone know of any person that can provide
> support for LTSP on a need basis. I could then propose
> that we buy the hw from reputed vendor with warranty
> and be left only with support for LTSP from private
> individual on a per need basis. Can this be done
> remotely ?
> Does the plan sound feasible ?
>
> -sanjeev
>


Hello

I feel its a  great opportunity to train some hardware support people
on LINUX and LTSP  near the school.

The support people could be utilized for any other similar projects in
the future.

If a small advt is given, definitely a lot hardware people will come
forward.

Definitely many members of LUG bangalore may come forward to train the
hardware people,as pointed out by Mr.Jayasimha makineni.


cheers
Herald.

Hi Sanjeev !

I have installed LTSP, Lessdisks and Skolelinux at my work place - Ma Foi
Academy, Chennai.
I am from Hyderabad but I will be very glad to help you in the weekend and
holidays.
I do not mind traveling to Bangalore.
I may not be able to train people for 15 continuous days but can help you select
a local vendor in Bangalore if required.

I am also sure that I can pull in many linux user group members of Hyderabad and
Bangalore to help you achieve your goal.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

cheers,
jay

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--- In linux_schools@..., <coverify@y...> wrote:
HEllo

I downlaoded the file in the message and uploaded in the Files Section.

atms_lab.pdf 9 pages.

Cheers
Herrald.

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the linux_schools
group.

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linux_schools <linux_schools@...>

Hi,
I am working for a non profit organization in US.
Recently we received a grant of $10K to open a
computer lab in a school in Blore. I presented the
attached proposal. Please send comments regarding it
and I will correct it.

After a lengthy discussion the problem boiled down to
support. I could not find any local company/person in
Blore which can support it. I found a sw vendor from
Kannur that had done this.
(http://s2s2net.netfirms.com/index.html)
But every one was unsure how out of station support
would work.

Does anyone know of any person that can provide
support for LTSP on a need basis. I could then propose
that we buy the hw from reputed vendor with warranty
and be left only with support for LTSP from private
individual on a per need basis. Can this be done
remotely ?
Does the plan sound feasible ?

-sanjeev



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--- In linux_schools@..., "linux_schools"
<linux_schools@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello friends
>
> How about a virtual meet of linux_schools group ?
>
> I suggest a time in the evening like after 6.00 pm.
>
> It will be pretty soon.
>
> cheers
> Herald.


Hi Herald,
Just Post the date.
Aditya Pratap V.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39175484,00.htm

November 30, 2004, 11:50 GMT

The car hire firm says its has cut hardware and maintenance costs
dramatically by migrating 1,500 rental stations to thin clients
running Linux

Car hire firm Europcar International has migrated thousands of PCs
across Europe from Windows fat clients to Linux thin clients, lowering
both its hardware and maintenance costs.

The car hire firm has saved on hardware and maintenance costs by
migrating its 1,500 stations to thin clients running Linux, but Stefan
Ostrowski, the CIO of Europcar, said that while migrating to Linux
thin clients has saved them money, but it would not have been as cost
effective for them to migrate fat clients to Linux.

....

No, 'advocacy' is entirely diffrent from selling.

And this selling is selling the idea and the value, not necessarily for money.

Regards,
  Atul Asthana

On Monday 29 November 2004 17:46, Rakesh 'arky' Ambati wrote:
> Dear Arujun,
>
>   That's nice little story,I really enjoyed that.But
> would suggest using the word 'advocate' instead of
> 'sell'.
>
> Cheers
>
> --arky
>

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Dear Arujun,

   That's nice little story,I really enjoyed that.But
would suggest using the word 'advocate' instead of
'sell'.

Cheers

--arky

--- Arjun Asthana <arjunasthana@...> wrote:

>
>
> I'll tell you a story. This, you should be able to
> find in the cronicles of
> some tech history books/sites.
>
> There was a company called Zilog. Constituted by a
> break away group of Intel
> engineers, who had designed 8080, an 8 bit
> processor. Zilog designed Z80, a
> hugely successful 8 bit processor, on which later,
> CP/M (a very basic OS) was
> standardised.
>
> Zilog also produced Z8000, a 16 bit processor, which
> was technologically far
> superior to 8086. BTW I've used both, along with
> 68000 (Motorola) and some
> wonderful 8 bit ones 1602, 6800, 6502, Z80, 8080/5
> etc for designing various
> control/processing systems.
>
> However, IBM was impressed with Intel's marketing
> and went on to design the
> IBM PC using 8086/88. Rest is history. Not to
> mention that the Mars buggy was
> run by Z80, where technology was of paramount
> importance.
>
> The moral of the story is: marketing sells not the
> technology. Thats the
> reason M$ sells and not Linux. The sooner it is
> understood, better it is.
>
> Lets sell Linux and not wait for the events to lead
> the way. That way may
> never come.
>
> Regards
> Atul Asthana
>
> On Saturday 27 November 2004 22:24, linux_schools
> wrote:
> > --- In linux_schools@..., Arjun
> Asthana
> >
> > <arjunasthana@g...> wrote:
> > > The problem is that CBSE forces schools to use
> Windows and other
> >
> > prop
> >
> > > software.
> > >
> > > Can any one break that?
> >
> > Hello Arjun
> >
> > It will be broken naturally when the time of Linux
> comes.
> >
> > There is Engineering education where they dont
> force to use Windows
> > for  C/C++ programming, Java etc.
> >
> > But nobody uses Linux to do these things in
> Engineering colleges
> > (There may be only few colleges who are doing so).
> >
> > There is also syllabus in Engineering where Word ,
> Excel , powerpoint
> > is part of the introductory computer syllabus in
> First year.
> >
> > Engineering colleges and professional institutes
> shamelessly use
> > pirated software (It may be true for CBSE and
> other schools also).
> >
> >
> > If the Universities and Government enforce the
> rule of legal software
> > usage, these institutes will have no other option
> but to use Linux.
> >
> > When Microsoft comes in search of their baby, we
> have no other option
> > but to give up the baby and also pay fines (We may
> have to learn how
> > many zeros are there in a million) . The fines
> will be so huge   all
> > the institutes would go bankrupt paying the fine
> and close shutters.
> >
> > Everybody is saying, no such thing will happen
> soon. Yes it will not
> > happen soon because the number computers in India
> are only around 1
> > Crore. Let it multiply to 5 to 10 crores, which
> may happen quickly if
> > the prices of computers comes to around Rs.10
> thousand. (Who would
> > have imagined mobile phones will reach more than
> 4.5 crores in such a
> > small time span exceeding the land line phones ?).
> >
> > We may have to wait a little more longer may be 2
> to 4 years when
> > dozens of countries, 100s of big companies rush to
> use Linux in a
> > large scale . Then there will be a great
> conversion boom similar to
> > Y2K projects.  It may be called W2k+8 bug or the
> big MSW bug. The bug
> > is not easy to remove. More than 90 percent of the
> computers would
> > have to be completely cleaned of this bug.
> >
> > People who have very few computers like India (<
> 1%) better not
> > install the bug on new computers. Otherwise India
> may have to spend
> > Billions of Dollars as the USA did for becoming
> stingy for 2 digits of
> > a year as in Y2K bug.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Herald.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



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