Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: Has Begal 2 Crash Landed? let ufs find out TONIGHT !

Dear Science and Astronomy Friends,

Its Very sad to know that Begal 2 is not working properly, but not
unexpectedly. as chances of success are just ranging from 1/3 to 1/2
ONLY. let us know tonight to attempt to revive the Mars BEGAL 2 probe.

This time the BEGAL 2 system was prepared for an IMPERIAL system so
no one just blame any mistakes of Imperial to metric conversion
errors just to hide their own mistakes of the understanding mars
gravitation and Wrong calculations. Nor will blame any one putting
wrong programmes or signs - as that's all wrong as all programmes and
modules are practically ground tested before sending. BUT I thing
time will tell them to understand those own mistakes. Let us see what
is happening in 24 hours or so and on 1st of JANUARY NASA probe
landing on MARS with metric system based (system may be any thing -
should not make any difference but is some thing lands on surface at
1.5 times faster speed than expected it does make more difference -
and no other things to be blamed to cover up just own mistakes - but
need to correct them. in the future).

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Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:49 PM
Subject: Will there be any Congestion on the mars in Christmas
traffic?

Dear space - science friends,

Will there be any Congestion on the mars in Christmas traffic?

There have been many news of traffic congestion on the Mars around
the Christmas. But will there be any such traffic congestion on the
Mars? Three Mars missions are programmed in this year. And news goes
on the spread just as humours of the congestion on the Mars.

News spread and our sites and news media just copy those news and
paste as such as if that is the reality! No one thinks of the real
aspects and facts remain undisclosed.

We are expert in copying. no doubt we are the expert in that field.
not only the news but even whole of the films and so many more. We
need to understand and Forward our own thoughts and evaluate the
reality on our way. Thinks of Four dimensions of the space. - three
dimensions of the space and a time factor for the space travel. any
two or three mars crafts of meter of size can not make any congestion
on the Mars Surface at all. and there is fourth factor of the time -
each one is not expected at the same time to make any congestion.

Reality mars area and gravitation. infect there are many reasons to
have multiple mars mission in short interval of time. (same time -
area). mars has nearly same surface LAND area as that of the earth
land area(1/3 of total surface of the earth) and for such a big
surface area, three small modules will be like a LOST on The MARS
rather than a congestion on the MARS. We do remember last failure and
crash land and disputes. there was a calculation error of the
gravitational acceleration on the mars and so crash landed (over
speed of landing resulting the damage of the function of the last
mission). argue was that the system failed because of the Metric and
imperial system mistakes. So miss-judgement of the gravitation of
mars resulted in accelerated landing resulted in failure of the
mission. Actually that was more complicated than that was disputed
for.

Comparison with Earth, Moon and Sun gravitation with that of Mars.
Suns gravitation is nearly equal in comparison to MOON and Earth as
those both are nearly Equidistance from the Sun. When we think of
landing acceleration and MARS-g for the Mars, we need to see back to
SUN as well. As sun is approximately 1.5 (1.5AU) time further from
the mars, sun's gravitation is reduced by 1/(1.5x1.5) = 1/2.25 = 0.44
and that make MARS to enhance its own gravitation to accelerate the
landing probe on the MARS surface.

Which was not the problem with Moon landing calculations. and here we
do not have any option. we learned from previous failure and we need
to correct this time.

Chances of Success are 50 -50 according to the probe BEEGAL2
designer, so instead of the single we should plan multiple mission at
the appropriate time (EK SE DO BHALA), else schedule for next mission
will be pushed back for our Mars expedition mission. and there are
chances that any one can miss the target mission (we failed last one
and if still if we miss one of three , still there will be two to
communicate or help each other). And there is also a competition of
successful Mars Mission. NASA and ESA all are trying to make first
success of their mission to the Mars. More than two missions are
essential for these reasons and also multiple functions can be
carried out instead of the repeated missions which may waste time.

If any case any one fails, still the two working probes can
communicate via earth station. may help each other to find the cause
of any failure. even track each other. and if it happened so that
will be a miracle to find and trace the faulty probe on SUCH A BIG
SURFACE AREA OF THE MARS. and I am sure there will not be any
congestion but that will be like a mission of the "lost on the Mars".
and if it happened that way a BIG Sci fi movie will be on the way for
that "lost on the Mars". and we are always ready to copy it again as
we copy on the news.

Trace the other and Communication among the working probes is also
not an easy task. searching for the companion will be a big job for
each other. a single message will take at least 4 minutes
(Approximate 73,000,000 km / 3, 00,000 km /s speed of message= 243
seconds) to reach on the Mars (only one way message transmission).
and to see other partner and if found, send pictures back to earth is
a really tough job, time consuming and lot of patience will require
handling it rather than a congestion issue on the MARS.
Finding probes and Mars Obiter? could be easier if the Mars orbital
is left in the ORBIT around the Mars to make the communication and
tracking device assistance. (as was the case in the Moon landing -
Lunar landing Module and Lunar orbital - Returning Craft)

Science Fiction & films - if any exiting thing happed, that will give
rise to the next big movie of Mars expedition and Sci fi film. but
that depend what will happen. Hope our film industry will follow
their steps behind them. Needs step ahead for such an action, what
might happen rather that what has happened, for the inspiration of
the science in our scientific society to enhance the scientific
thinking and encouragement. we should be ready to offer all the
support for such a sci fi activity for our society. Hope some one
will come forward to think about it.

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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: Dear Science and Astronomy friends, Time to Be ready to
celebrate Christmas on Mars.
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:45 PM

3) C) MARS Gravitation field (not the MARS - G )

Distance from the Sun = 227.9 mn Km. MARS G = 0.38 (Earth G
=1) Mars Mass = 0.107 Earth Mass

Sun mass = 3084112 Mars mass.

For that let us take square root of 3084112= 1756, from the Sun 1756
d and 1d from the MARS = 1757 d,

Now let us divide the Distance from the Sun 227.9 mn Km / 1757 =
129709 km = 1d,

If we stay at distance from the Mars at 1 d =129709 km and 1756 d
from the Sun – Sun gravitation will be reduced by 1756 x1756=3083636,
mean will be equal to that of the Mars at that point in the space.

Looking at the Mars data though Mars G is only = 0.38 (Earth G =1)
and Mars Mass = 0.107 Earth Mass, the gravitational field is wider
than the expected (nearly half of that of the Earth, (Mars at 1 d
=129709 km – as for the Earth 1d =260173 km).

That is how the Mars has comparative more influence on gravity at
that place in space. And starts dragging objects and accelerating
quite earlier than we think and more time gives more speed of probes
to wards the mars surface – and speed is gained more than we think
(speed = gt) towards the Mars.

Try to swap the place of the Mars and earth and re calculate all
data. And see what happens to their gravitational field area. Which
one shrinks and which one swells up and how much? What will be the
effects on the speeds for descents?

So we need to plan more deceleration on the descents of the probes.
Even space shuttle retrograde propellers could reduce the speed of
entry to save from friction heat in the case of damaged surface.

We should keep in mind that Astronauts travelling to ISS never feel
the acceleration of Earth G but Deceleration of the Earth G. those
orbits are well below the Gravitational field limit of the Earth.
E.G. lower orbits from 300 to 800 and geosichronising orbits to 36000
Km. But those all orbits are still well below the Gravitational field
limit of the Earth, Higher the orbit slower the circular speed of the
Body in the orbit. ranging from 90 minutes to a day for a single
circle.

If the body travel from OUTSIDE of Earth gravitation files of Earth
towards the Earth and if Enters the Earth G Field - it feels the
acceleration of earth G depending on the enter angle to the Earth G
sphere. and accordingly bends the path of the travel. May pass in the
field or divert the path in the space. .

E.G. satellites orbiting earth at about 36000 Km is about six times
above the earth centre and the G falls to about 1/6 X 1/6 = 1/36 so G
=980/36 CM = only 27.22 CM, while body at the height of Earth G
boundary at 260 000 km it has G of less than a 1/2CM and tends to
ZERO if the body just slides the Earth G sphere - means may not enter
at all to the earth G filed and NO EARTH G is applicable to that
body.

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