Dear friends,

Sorry I was away for a while and back now, soon will be in touch with
you all. regards to you all

Yours ever

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WEST SKY on 8 JULY 2005 Two planets together Venus- Mercury with
cresent moon - Clear skiesAs I will be on geo – archaeological
expedition to explore new sites. I will be away in Monsoon time. So
see you all after August . &
WISH YOU a Very Happy Monsoon with Aashadhi Dwij - Happy Rath Yatra
and Kutchi new year on Aashadhi Dwij  - also Watch the WEST SKY on 8
JULY 2005 Two planets together Venus- Mercury with cresent new moon.

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WEST SKY on 24/25 June 2005 Three planets together Venus- Mercury -
Saturn with stars of Gemini and CMi close south of those
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:26 PM
What you expect of summer Solstice weather? will it be a clear sky
or a rain?


Dear friends of sky gazers , kutchScience foundation & all Science
Groups Of INDIA


What you expect of summer Solstice weather? will it be a clear sky
or a rain? Bhuj -
http://www.weather.com/activities/travel/businesstraveler/weather/ten
day.html?locid=INXX0150&from=dayDetails_topnav_business

http://www.weather.com/activities/travel/businesstraveler/weather/ten
day-details.html?locid=INXX0150&dayNum=8





Dr. BHUDIA : Science Group Of INDIA
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WEST SKY on 24/25 June 2005 Three planets together Venus- Mercury -
Saturn with stars of Gemini and CMi close south of those - Clear
skies


As I will be on geo – archaeological expedition to explore new
sites. I will be away in Monsoon time. So see you all after August .
&

WISH YOU a Very Happy summer Solstice Day 21 June 2005. & also Watch
the WEST SKY on 24/25 June 2005
Three planets together Venus- Mercury -Saturn with stars of Gemini
and CMi close south of those





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Dear Friends of Geology, History And Science,

If some one ask you What was the ORIGINAL name of the Highest Peak
of the World? every one will say Mt Everest. So how quickly the
History was changed in few years? - WHILE HINDU KUSH (in
AFGHANISTAN) remained the Original NAME. KAILASH,  KANCHANJANGHA are
as such but KETU changed to K2 on difficult pronouncing mistakes.

Mt. Everest is Mt. Qomolangma
The real name of World's highest mountain is Qomolangma in Tibet,
commonly known in the west as Mt. Everest. ... Qomolangma
(pronounced Chomolangma). The mountain peak Qomolangma is in
Qomolangma Plateau ... Chinese. Mt. Zhumulangma pinyin. Mt.
Qomolangma Tibetan. Mt. Everest English ...
www.chinapage.com/mountain/qomolangma/qomolangma.html - 3k - Cached -
  More pages from this site

Mt. Qomolangma


The highest mountain in the World is known as Mt. Everest in the
West. Its actual name in Tibetan is Mt. Qomolangma (pronounced
Chomolangma). The mountain peak Qomolangma is in Qomolangma Plateau

Qomolangma is a transliteration from Tibetan, meaning "goddess of
mountain." The 8,848-meter Qomolangma is the main peak of the
Himalayas. Situated on the border between China and Nepal, it is the
highest mountain in the world. This majestic peak has long attracted
mountaineers, scientists, and ordinary tourists.

            Chinese
Mt. Zhumulangma    pinyin
Mt. Qomolangma     Tibetan
Mt. Everest              English

The mountain was named Mt Everest in 1865 after Sir George Everest,
the surveyor-general of India who mapped the peak in 1852. According
to the Chinese recorded documents the mountain was mapped in 1717 by
Qing Dynasty (1644 to 1912) officials.

MOUNTAINEERING. Qomolangma (8848 M) Qomolangma (Everest), the main
peak of the Himalayas, is the highest peak in the earth. At an
altitude of 8848 meters, it is located at 86.9oE and 27.9oN. ... of
Emperor Kang Xi in Qing Dynasty, Qomolangma was called
Zhumulangma'alin (transliteration

What is sagarmatha - Everest - Information - Travel - Sagarmatha -
Everest
What is Sagarmatha - Everest,Info Sagarmatha . ... Everest. Everest
is the highest mountain ... Qomolangma ("Mother of the Universe"),
from which derives the Chinese name of(pinyin: Zhumùlangma Feng).
Although it was named Everest
What is sagarmatha - Everest
Everest is the highest mountain on Earth (as measured from sea
level). The summit ridge of the mountain marks the border between
Nepal and Tibet. In Nepali the mountain is called Sagarmatha
(Sanskrit for "Forehead of the Sky") and in Tibetan Chomolangma or
Qomolangma ("Mother of the Universe"), from which derives the
Chinese name of(pinyin: Zhumùlangma Feng). Although it was named
Everest by Sir Andrew Waugh, the British surveyor-general of India,
in honour of his predecessor Sir George Everest, the popular
pronunciation of Everest (Ev-er-est) is different from how Sir
George pronounced his own last name (Eve-rest)


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Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:50 PM

Dear friends of Astronomy, Science  Maths and philosophy,

Many a times science has discussion of the theoretical parts of
science which is difficult to put in concrete proofs : but
Mathematics' SAC theory does have some explanations.

LET US see first a process of simple chemical process :- OXIDATION &
REDUCTION and using a SAC theory for the process.
1) in simple primary understanding OXIDATION / REDUCTION are process
of some thing combining with OXYGEN or a reverse the process. where
a chemical element O is required. Bur is that all? NO let us go step
further in atomic level exchanges.

A) as O has a -ve charge : and combines with a Positively charged
elemental ion - similar process happens every where in chemistry and
Biochemical processes. SO OXIDATION & REDUCTION  can be explained as
process of the combination of +ve & -ve elementary ions, where
OXYGEN is not there!!!

B) going further in sub atomic reactions :- During all the chemical
process of above atomic level reactions there are exchange of -ve
charged sub atomic particles. -ve charged ELECTRONs so it means
OXIDATION & REDUCTION can further be explained as Exchange of the -
ve (electrons)/+ve (protons) electronic charge during the process.

C) further break down of the subatomic particles OXIDATION &
REDUCTION does not need a exchange of  -ve (electrons)/+ve
(protons) - any -ve (charged sub particle)/+ve (charged sub
particle) can full fill the process at that sub atomic level.

These theories were based on the basic mathematical SAC theory
solutions of the chemical process of the chemical reactions of the
OXIDATION & REDUCTION. AS actual presence of the element is not
necessary for the reaction eg OXIDATION without Oxygen O2. and all
process of chemical reaction and biochemical Metabolism process may
fall under the sub OXIDATION & REDUCTION  process.

Going BACK to the subject of Space
1) SAC - SPACE is main SAC - includes Earth SAC as a sub SAC and all
matter in the space, star, dust and all.
2) SAC Earth is SUB SAC to Space SAC - which includes the Earth
materials - ITS ENERGY, LIFE on the Earth and its ENVIRONMENT and
all we SEE/FEEL on the EARTH.




As in Chemical process of the OXIDATION & REDUCTION we seen level of
Exchanges of atomic and sub atomic exchange. here it may be a
physical exchange of the matter of any form of the Energy from the
main SAC SPACE and sub  SAC EARTH or a visa versa.


Example 1) if a rocket fly from SUB SAC EARTH to the Main SAC of the
SPACE - the SAC theory says a PART of the SAC Space is occupied by
the rocket from the Sub SAC EARTH. so Earth has used a part of Main
SAC SPACE. - so Earth is utilising a space. and part of the SPACE is
dragged with the EARTH if Rocket remains in the SPACE.

Going to next step deeper the process can be similar if an
antimatter from the main SAC SPACE arrives to EARTH SAC instead of
MATTER (Rocket) going away from the Earth.

OR say any form of Energy is driven out of the SAC EARTH to main SAC
SPACE - eg Heat loss of the Earth interior to the space or sound
generated by the Earth to the space. Earth vibration - EARTH SONG!!
if the Earth vibration are created by the Earth then that part of
the Vibration energy is going to space using the space than space is
used by the Earth - so earth is taking Space with it while it travel
in the space.

Atmosphere loss in the SPACE by the Earth, or even further WE HAVE
some thing more than PANCH MAHABHOOT with us. AaTMA - LIFE part of
the EARTHen life. that is not a part of PANCH MAHABHOOT  and so on
the dissolutions of PANCH MAHABHOOT, AaTMA does not stay in the
Earth. should it be in the SPACE or utilise the MAIN SAC SPACE while
going from the Earthen LIFE? Does that use SPACE and SPACE is
dragged with the EARTH with loss of AaTMA from the EARTHen LIFE?

Previous mail : -

1)  As we had some discussion of vibration created in the space by
the Earth and its movements. - what type of waves might those be?
how those travel in the space? does it need a medium to travel in
the space - a theoretical medium? what tune - frequency does it
have? is it one of  the tune of we know of (sa, re, ga, ma, pa, dha,
ni, sha?) or a different one? now that has become a subject of
Science philosophy.

2)    Now  a day science is getting a step closer to the more
complicated philosophical subject - "a space dragged by Earth while
travel through the space" !!! But how could that happen? how a space
(Vacuum) - non mass can be dragged behind the Earth. does the space
has a MASS? & Gravitation to follow the rules of Newtonian?

Veda has given some guidelines as every thing are made from only
from PANCH MAHABHOOT (five parts) even our body.  It may be very
difficult to understand for who do not have basics of VEDAs but
there are other ways to give mathematical explanations for those.

A) Earth - Earthy elements - Biochemistry of the body and elements
of the Earth & naturally all body elements are from the Earth only
and non Earthy elements can not be there.
B) JAL - Water - fluid - main component of the body.
C) VAYU - GAS - all gaseous composition of the Boby generated in
body and also in Living respiration and decomposition process.
D) AGNI - FIRE - a process of Burning - respiration - digestion -
metabolism and all METABOLIC?ANABOLIC PROCESS OF THE LIFE and even
cellular death - cellular decomposition process after the clinical
death.
E - 5 ) A AVKAaSh - AaKAaSH - VACUUM - How that can happen a space
in side the body? BODY does not have a SPACE Vacuum in any of
ANATOMICAL and PHYSIOLOGICAL explanations !!

So what is the fact?  Is the Medical science of ANATOMY/PHYSIOLOGY
is correct or the PHILOSOPHY of the Vedic BODY SCIENCE? and why
today's Science is after the theoretical explanations of SPACE
DRAGGED BY THE EARTH and EARTH SONG theory of vibration by the Earth
in the space?

ALL this is just difficult of as there are no scientific way to
prove those by the science. but wait for a while there is another
way for theoretical explanations by mathematical theoretical
explanation to show that that can be that. - IF so then Is the VEDIC
philosophical body science is correct? was Rajnishjee was correct
what he said 30 years ago when science was in dark?

LET US SEE in the next coming answers of the Mathematical
explanatory theoretical proof - soon after this - Just wait for this.

From Yours : Dr. BHUDIA.- Science Group Of INDIA.

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for Tuesday 07 Dec 2004 10:39


10:37 UT = 16:07 IST?
Events for Tuesday 07 Dec 2004

01:54 Moon rises
02:20 Jupiter rises

Conjunction in RA between Jupiter and Moon

Date (UT)           Separation   Dist (AU)  Dec       El
---------           ----------               ---------      ---
        --
2004 Dec 07   10:39           0° 20' 37"  5.8544     -04° 30'  61.4°

13:36  Moon sets
13:37 Jupiter sets

BHUJ - Conjunction in RA between Jupiter and Moon

Date (UT)           Separation   Dist (AU)  Dec       El
---------           ----------   ---------  ---       --
2004 Dec 07 (10:39 UT = 16:09 IST)   0° 20' 37"  5.8544     -04°
30'  61.4°

Events for Saturday 04 Dec 2004

03:00 Jupiter rises
05:13 Venus rises
05:19 Mars rises
06:56 Start of civil twilight
07:21 Sun rises
08:23 Mercury rises
10:36 Saturn sets
12:56 Moon sets
14:48 Jupiter sets
16:28 Mars sets
16:28 Venus sets
BHUJ - Conjunction in RA between Jupiter and Moon 2004 Dec 07 (10:39
UT = 16:09 IST for 5 hours but  MOON AND JUPITER will not rise
during this time. So conjuction time fall in DAY TIME in INDIA but
you may see planets in deam day light - or by telescope

18:09 Sun sets
18:33 End of civil twilight
18:59 Mercury sets
19:01 End of nautical twilight
19:29 End of astronomical twilight
21:15 Saturn rises
So conjuction time fall in DAY TIME in INDIA but you may see planets
in deam day light - or by telescope

Hope u read This but those timings are for USA and by that time
INDIA WIll have a day

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/29nov_moonjupiter.htm?friend

Lunar Occultation of Jupiter: Dec. 7, 2004 for USA but those timings
are for USA and by that time INDIA WIll have a day
City Jupiter disappears Jupiter reappears Altitude of the Moon
Atlanta, GA 3:54:59 EST  4:52:39 EST 16o to 27o
Chicago, IL  2:50:00 CST  3:54:10 CST 10o to 21o
Dallas, TX 2:56:18 CST  3:37:06 CST 6o to 14o
Miami, FL  4:14:59 EST  4:45:35 EST 26o to 32o
New Orleans, LA 3:02:39 CST  3:38:04 CST 14o to 21o
New York, NY 3:56:23 EST 5:05:51 EST 21o to 32o
San Juan, PR 5:37:20 AST 6:14:33 AST 45o to 53o
St. Louis, MO 2:48:49 CST  3:50:35 CST 9o to 20o
Toronto, ON  3:53:57 EST 5:00:21 EST 16o to 26o
Washington, DC  3:54:29 EST 5:03:17 EST 19o to 31o

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From  "kutchscience" <kutchscience@...>
Subject:  A meteor strike in Valsad

To: ; scienceclubofindia ; kutchsciencefoundation ;
kutchastronomersclub ;
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:07 AM

Yes , very good enthusiasm for the meteors in Valsad, if there are
not available
handy test for meteors at the moment, do not be dishearten, few of
the tests are
handy and easy for primarily to sort out from ordinary stones. (eg
magnetic,
Specific gravity and chemical lab analysis of elements present and
its
concentrations) if any doubt one can send small part of it to
confirm - to the
Science lab in Natural history museum and science museum. That
really nice some
of us locally are on the way to find out the more details and as
there are
conflicting reports of size and also depth of crater.

How to identify Meteors?
http://www.meteors.com/meteorite_identification_1.htm

Most meteorites tend to be VERY HEAVY for their size. This is
because they
contain iron and other metals in varying amounts. They usually have
a SMOOTH
SURFACE and are SOLID, almost never porous like lava. ????? (this
statement is
conflicting - see an authentic sites below and its samples and
details)

Many says they are never porous like lava but smooth - but not
necessary as out
GADHWARI - Bhuj sample is not smooth it falls in last category below

http://piclib.nhm.ac.uk/piclib/www/image.php?
img=76507&frm=ser&search=meteorite

http://piclib.nhm.ac.uk/piclib/www/image.php?
img=76508&frm=ser&search=meteorite

Wish our member go there on the site and find out some more small
parts
scattered there. They are heavy (higher specific gravity ) as those
meteor fell
from the atmosphere - high temperature burns many elements but Iron
and nickel
may remain and that may give those parts a property to stick with
magnets. This
are on hand tests to sort those from ordinary stones and later can
be analysed
for elements and further test for confirmation of meteor property.
many melted
meteor parts may arrange iron elementals in the line with magnetic
fields and
get very low magnetic signature at that time too. and may deflect a
magnetic
compass needle a bit. but that also present in LAVA surrounding
South Gujarat
mountains and Western Ghat (Sahyadri) Lava stones and

more on meteors SEE and there are conflicting info about meteor
property - many
says they are smooth - but not necessary as out GADHWARI - Bhuj
sample is not
smooth it falls in last category below
http://piclib.nhm.ac.uk/piclib/www/search.php?search=meteorite
http://piclib.nhm.ac.uk/piclib/www/image.php?
img=76507&frm=ser&search=meteorite

http://piclib.nhm.ac.uk/piclib/www/image.php?
img=76508&frm=ser&search=meteorite


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From: KutchScience
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kachchh ; kutchastronomersclub ; kutchscience2 ;
kutchsciencefoundation ; madhapar ; scienceclubofindia ;
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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:54 AM

Thank you for attention,

It has been interesting news since, Some times it happens and some
times scientist makes FUN and words like "closest known pass of such
a very large space rock anytime this century" makes really FUN. as
they do forget all about BECAUSE EVERY ONE was Sleeping (Caught
napping) as the approach was within a critical angle as was coming
from the direction of the sun, as that time radioastronomy fails the
tracking of NEO - asteroids because of the interference by the sun
Radiation. That's the Scientist fails to detect when Asteroid has
more chances to impact at a critical angle entry to the Earths Orbit.

Actually When NEO asteroids is in critical angle - coming from near
angle of the direction of the Sun it is more likely that it will
close pass the Earths orbit and may cross the Moon ORBIT round the
Earth.

if it passes Just out of Moon orbit - either it changes path or
strikes MOON who is our actual guard from asteroid impact. if That
miss than chances of Earth Impact are more likely. BUT ALL THAT
happens only when Asteroid travel near critical angle (near
equatorial Plane) but when it pass more wide angle - NORTH / SOUTH
scientist should just ignore them as a casual visitors.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20020617/asteroid.html  June 14
2001 when  Asteroid 2002MN got within 75,000 miles of Earth and was
travelling at a speed of some 23,000 miles per hour, astronomers
said.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040503.html The
rumours are likely rooted in a real event, however. On Sept. 29,
2004 an asteroid the size of a small city will make the closest
known pass of such a very large space rock anytime this century

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20020617/asteroid.html
June 21 — An asteroid the size of a soccer field whizzed by Earth at
a distance much nearer than the Moon, the biggest such space rock in
decades to get this close, scientists said on Thursday.
Asteroid 2002MN was not detected until Monday, three days after its
closest approach on June 14, when it got within 75,000 miles of
Earth and was travelling at a speed of some 23,000 miles per hour,
astronomers said.

It is now several million miles away, according to Brian Marsden of
the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics' Minor Planet
Center, which tracks asteroids.

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To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@manage.24online;
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:55 AM
Subject: [astronomyclubindia] City-Sized Asteroid to Pass Earth This
Fall n the Gauls will say "By Toutatis"


Toutatis will be too close to earth on 29th sept. check out these
pages for more info:
A minor rumor has hatched on the Internet that a large and deadly
asteroid will strike Earth this fall. Bulletin board discussions
cite a 63 percent chance of impact, while concerned readers have e-
mailed SPACE.com wondering if it is true.Astronomers know of no such
impending doom.The rumors are likely rooted in a real event,
however. On Sept. 29, 2004 an asteroid the size of a small city will
make the closest known pass of such a very large space rock anytime
this century.While not dangerous for now, asteroid Toutatis is
incredibly strange. And scientists are quite familiar with it,
having bounced radar off the tumbling stone on previous flybys to
generate computer renderings of its weird shape and movement.
Toutatis looks something like a dumbbell hurtling awkwardly through
space. It has a crazy rotation that makes normal days impossible.
Scientists can't explain the shape or the spin, but they're eager to
learn more in September when, during the close pass, even backyard
skywatchers will be able to spot the asteroid.


http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040503.html
http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/4179_Toutatis/toutatis.html

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Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:51 PM


Dear  science friends of and Astronomy,



Sub: Reply - Not an expanding universe?  June 2004 Letter

Thanks for information. That's right universe is not expanding and
red shift always been miss-understood. actually scientist were miss-
lead and so miss-lead all - but mathematically and VEDIC Maths proves
that Universe is not expanding - but who understands VEDIC so they
all say they only are RIGHT. I will upload diagrammatic - and
mathematical calculation and why red shift was miss- understood with
the Vedic calculations.







If an Observer "A" is at a distance of "d" from the centre and
watching an object "B" at the distance  "2d" from the centre.



Gravitation at "A"  at  the distance "d" = "g" then Gravitation
at "B" at distance "2d" will be "1/4g" and so speed of the of "A"
will be higher than that of the "B".



So at a unit time if the Universe is expanding: "A" will be at "+A"
and "B" will be at "+B" but as B moves slowly the distance "+B"
to "+A" will reduce than that of "B" to "A". So the Object will be
looking like Object is closing up with a Blue shift. (Not the red
shift as with expanding Universe)



So at a unit time if the Universe is Collapsing: "A" will be at "-A"
and "B" will be at "-B" but as B moves slowly the distance "-B" to "-
A" will increase than that of "B" to "A". So the Object will be
looking like Object is going far up with a RED shift. (Not the red
shift as with expanding Universe but NOT expanding universe)



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Dear Science and astronomy Friends,

http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/scienceclubofindia/files/MeasureEarth
.doc

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Hints: as Calculation of AU with the help of Venus transit we need to
measure Earth First in reality rather than just taking it granted. As
on the summer solstice day The sun is on the 23.5 N, we need to go
there and find actual place on 23.5 on the day at local time 12:00
NOON. And that will be real practical aspect rather than just taken
granted Last discussion time.

June 2004) : Measuring the Earth:

Sub: How long will it take and how far we need to go to measure the
Earth? Similar to the experiment below, But all need to do is use
local time. When sun comes overhead (No east or No West). And select
two place A & B of Maximum possible distance apart NORTH and SOUTH
and do the measurement same time at both place as follows.

We can use one control place "S" in South or "N" in North about 50 Km
away to correct any minor errors from short distance "few KM"
experiment.

Similar Example of Latitudes longitude finding at the Local time. –
for tropical of cancer @ Local time you need to find the correct time
when sun is on the head with no shadows East or West. and need to be
there at LOCAL time of 12:00 NOON which may be 12 + MM depending on
the place where you go – Longitudes.

Experiments done at the Place A & B (NEAR 23.5 N) on 12 Noon IST will
have shadow towards East/West. Depending your positions in India
(West/ East of 82.5 E Longitude). And so accordingly you will get
shadow East/West.  Measure the length of that of shadow of 3 Meter
pole OR a PLUM LINE shadow and find the Tangent = shadow/ pole - will
give u the angle. Say example : shadow = 600 mm at that time. So
600/3000= 0.2

so anti tangent is an angle of 11.30' degree. so you are 11..30'
West/East of IST line means IF shadow is East than you are WEST and
at 82.30' - 11.30' =  71 degree East longitude.

(If shadow is in the EAST than - you are IN the East of the TIME LINE
so you need to Start an experiment a DAY BEFORE (20 JUNE) and
repeated on 21st JUNE before 2 hours before 12 IST and preferably to
start more than an hour before to set up all arrangements)

Now you find exact time when to take results of the experiment. when
there is no shadow to the EAST/WEST - at 12Noon + (11.3o' x4) = @12 +
46 PM Here you have 46 minutes to do that. To take the next accurate
place readings. When there is no shadow in East/West but to the
NORTH/SOUTH ONLY (depending your position North or south of the SUN
in India or in the world) at that place at that time. GPS may be in
correct to show that but not the SUN.

Now measure the length of the shadow in accuracy of mm fractions. @
places "A", "B" & "N" or "S"@ the same time. If the Difference of the
length of shadow is 1mm at places "A" and "B" same time at Local time
when sun comes over head –(NO shadow on East or West) the
calculations will be simplified as follows. Anti tan 1/3000 gives the
angle made by shadow on the Earth surface gives the angle = at the
centre of the Earth by the distance of the place "A"to "B" on the
surface of the EARTH. Eg about 1.145' (1+') and find the
Circumference of the Earth = 360 degree. (around 40000 Km)

Similarly Controlled reading at "N" / "S" will help you to find
accuracy eg long distance measure will give more accuracy than 2KM
and correct your readings from that 50 KM distance experiments. (that
will give you about 23.5 mm shadow Difference than that of "A" and
23.5+1 mm than that of "B") so calculate the anti tangent and angle
and circumference of the Earth and Diameter or R for the Earth.

TO SIMPLIFY MORE and Easy work, Let One of the "N" OR "S" be Either
Delhi Jantar Mantar or JAIPUR - JANTAR MANTAR.

We are very rich in our Astronomy engineering - particularly JAIPUR
is the Richest in that sense. Jaipur has very good working
observatory (VEDH SHALA) with guiding facility.

According to an expert guide (who are also expert in astronomical
calculations)- And that all works local timing and longitude -
latitude of the place. Only the persons required to work for it.

We should utilize that place with aided observation with Summer
solstice of  21 June 2004. TEAM A - working with Local observatory
guides and Team B working with at the 23.5 N.  That is the best place
for us to utilize the observation at that place and that is relay an
opportunity for Jaipur & Delhi and users too.

(Delhi and Jaipur observatory – Vedh Shala are constructed such a way
that it can work locally @ that Longitude Latitude and also at a
LOCAL time of that place. So we do not need to find the place
location of  Longitude-Latitude while working there nor the local
time of that working place (Auto Sun Dial activity) – nor we need
toys like GPS nor sophisticated instruments. Not only that but many
of such astronomical activities – One like coming VENUS TRANSIT on 8
June 2004 also needs to be observed and activity to be worked in same
environment such as Local time and longitude Latitude, so many of
planetarium places and activity are just nothing in comparisons to
such VITAL places as others has to use their toys of GPS and
telescopic compass and Leveling like a Theodolites). So if we use
this place on the day 21 June2004 for a Solistic measurements. (use
the real measured distance from 23.5N to Vedh shala NS distance
measured by vehicle travel)

World geometric dimension Table: created

Earth's Equatorial Diameter
  Equatorial Circumference 2D
  Earth's Inter Polar Diameter
  Inter Polar Circumference 2D

12756 Km (E to W)
  40053 KM (E to W)
  12714 K m (N to S)
  39900 KM (N to S)

(E to W 23:30 N/S)
  (Using Tangent 23:30=0.917)


360 degree @  23.5 Degree
  36730km@Tropic of Cancer 360 deg Round the Earth
  39900 KM Inter Polar

1 Degree = 60 ` Mins /360
  =102 km = 64 Miles
  1 Degree = 60 ` Mins /360
  =110 km = 70 Miles

1' Min = 60 " Secs    /60
  =1.7 KM =1.067 Miles
  1' Min = 60 " Secs    /60
  =1.84 KM =1.16 Miles

  =1700 M = 5632 Feet

  =1840 M = 6124 Feet

1"Sec         /60
  28.3 M  =94 Feet
  1"Sec         /60
  30.8 M  =102 Feet

= 37 adult steps
  = 18 Second's walk
  = 40 adult steps
  = 20 Second's walk


  1minute walk =300feets=92M

  1minute walk =300feets=92M

  1hour = 5.4 Km walk

  1hour = 5.4 Km walk

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http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_699546%2C00040005.htm

Jayant Narlikar, Professor Emeritus and founder director of Inter
University Centre for Astronomy and Astrophysics (IUCAA), has been
awarded the prestigious Prix Janssen Gold Medal for 2004 by the
Society Astronomique de France.

The eminent astronomer will receive the gold medal, the highest award
given by the French Astronomical Society, on May 4, 2004, IUCAA
sources said.

The award is alternately given to a French astronomer (in odd years)
and a foreign astronomer (even years) for significant contribution to
astronomy, they said.

The award is named after French astronomer Pierre-Jules-C sar Janssen
(1824-1907), who was the first to obtain evidence about the existence
of helium on the sun and also discovered the chromosphere, a type of
gaseous envelope surrounding the star.

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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:35 AM

Dear Science and Astronomy friends, Vidur, Rathnaji, Dr. Anasji, Dr.
Raghavan,

Thank you for comments and considerations, I do understand your
concerns for technical errors made in practical experimented by
Vidur. Though there was a technical error by Vidur to measure
elongation, as he did not keep in mind to check the (N=>S) line
artificial horizon, and relied on that assumption. it may be 5-6
degree out of line and makes a lot difference. also he should take
consideration of Latitude and position of SUN - about 2 degree north
of equator at that time. and my point to encourage him was that - My
long experience of study of - Astronomical engineering architecture
and Temples of SUN and its applications, I realised that what he was
going to do was Principally correct, and on that bases of
Astronomical engineering architecture - all JANTAR MANTAR are based
and constructed and RAMYANTRA does work on same principal. Though he
should try again correctly again as some ones calculation (~43
degrees) was incorrect and misleading.

More over for correction by spherical astronomical calculations , he
need to do a lot. Such and important books are now disappeared from
the course work of science - though some of translated old copies by
UNIVERSITY GRANTH NIRMAN BOARDS are available some where but now
difficult to get because of copy right laws. but some do hold
photocopies over there. One of such good book is here below.

Astronomy-spherical Smart, William M. Text-Book on Spherical
Astronomy   522.7 S   Cambridge: University Press 1931


thank for your reply, I should thank you all to encourage and guide
all those are participating in this field,

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Dear Patelji
You have given very useful information about how little the the
elongation of venus has varied in the past several days. Any quantity
that passes through a maximum or minimum will always chage slowly
close to that maximum or minumum.
Vidurji has made a careful time measurement of the difference between
the setting times of the sun and venus. He has reported for March 27,
a time difference of 3h and 36m and 30s giving an equivalent angle of
~54 degrees. THIS HOW EVER is not the elongation as he had
originally assumed, not even the difference in RA of Venus and sun
(~43 degrees). Yet it was a very accurate measuremnt because he set
up his experiment very carefully! The elongation calculation itself
involved assuming the azimuths today. By tomorrow he will be able to
measure that as wellhopefully.
So by doing this experiment he has really understood nature of
projection effects. Nature works in far more interesting ways than
we initially assume. Vidurji, by reporting it in this forum has made
many more become aware of this which is the essence of a discussion
group.I hope you and your active group will also do this as you may
have clear horizons and report it.Unfortunately I donot have access
to clear horizons.

Dear Science and astronomy friends,

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Simulation of Transits

  Transit of Venus 2004 The angular radius of the sun.doc
Transit of Venus 2004 The angular radius of the sun
  Transit of Venus 2004 The own geographical positions.doc
Transit of Venus 2004 The own geographical positions
  Transit of Venus 2004 The radius of Venus' orbit.doc
Transit of Venus 2004 The radius of Venu's orbit
  Transit of Venus 2004 The radius of the earth.doc
Transit of Venus 2004 The radius of the earth
  Transit of Venus 2004 The transit of Mercury 2003.doc
Transit of Venus 2004 The transit of Mercury 2003
  TransitPlace.doc
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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: Has Begal 2 Crash Landed? let ufs find out TONIGHT !

Dear Science and Astronomy Friends,

Its Very sad to know that Begal 2 is not working properly, but not
unexpectedly. as chances of success are just ranging from 1/3 to 1/2
ONLY. let us know tonight to attempt to revive the Mars BEGAL 2 probe.

This time the BEGAL 2 system was prepared for an IMPERIAL system so
no one just blame any mistakes of Imperial to metric  conversion
errors just to hide their own mistakes of the understanding mars
gravitation and Wrong calculations. Nor will blame any one putting
wrong programmes or signs - as that's all wrong as all programmes and
modules are practically ground tested before sending. BUT I thing
time will tell them to understand those own mistakes. Let us see what
is happening in 24 hours or so and on 1st of JANUARY NASA probe
landing on MARS with metric system based (system may be any thing -
should not make any difference but is some thing lands on surface at
1.5 times faster speed than expected it does make more difference -
and no other things to be blamed to cover up just own mistakes - but
need to correct them. in the future).

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Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:49 PM
Subject: Will there be any Congestion on the mars in Christmas
traffic?

Dear space - science friends,

Will there be any Congestion on the mars in Christmas traffic?

There have been many news of traffic congestion on the Mars around
the Christmas. But will there be any such traffic congestion on the
Mars? Three Mars missions are programmed in this year. And news goes
on the spread just as humours of the congestion on the Mars.

News spread and our sites and news media just copy those news and
paste as such as if that is the reality! No one thinks of the real
aspects and facts remain undisclosed.

We are expert in copying. no doubt we are the expert in that field.
not only the news but even whole of the films and so many more. We
need to understand and Forward our own thoughts and evaluate the
reality on our way. Thinks of Four dimensions of the space. - three
dimensions of the space and a time factor for the space travel. any
two or three mars crafts of meter of size can not make any congestion
on the Mars Surface at all. and there is fourth factor of the time -
each one is not expected at the same time to make any congestion.

Reality mars area and gravitation. infect there are many reasons to
have multiple mars mission in short interval of time. (same time -
area). mars has nearly same surface LAND area as that of the earth
land area(1/3 of total surface of the earth) and for such a big
surface area, three small modules will be like a LOST on The MARS
rather than a congestion on the MARS. We do remember last failure and
crash land and disputes. there was a calculation error of the
gravitational acceleration on the mars and so crash landed (over
speed of landing resulting the damage of the function of the last
mission). argue was that the system failed because of the Metric and
imperial system mistakes. So miss-judgement of the gravitation of
mars resulted in accelerated landing resulted in failure of the
mission. Actually that was more complicated than that was disputed
for.

Comparison with Earth, Moon and Sun gravitation with that of Mars.
Suns gravitation is nearly equal in comparison to MOON and Earth as
those both are nearly Equidistance from the Sun. When we think of
landing acceleration and MARS-g for the Mars, we need to see back to
SUN as well. As sun is approximately 1.5 (1.5AU) time further from
the mars, sun's gravitation is reduced by 1/(1.5x1.5) = 1/2.25 = 0.44
and that make MARS to enhance its own gravitation to accelerate the
landing probe on the MARS surface.

Which was not the problem with Moon landing calculations. and here we
do not have any option. we learned from previous failure and we need
to correct this time.

Chances of Success are 50 -50 according to the probe BEEGAL2
designer, so instead of the single we should plan multiple mission at
the appropriate time (EK SE DO BHALA), else schedule for next mission
will be pushed back for our Mars expedition mission. and there are
chances that any one can miss the target mission (we failed last one
and if still if we miss one of three , still there will be two to
communicate or help each other). And there is also a competition of
successful Mars Mission. NASA and ESA all are trying to make first
success of their mission to the Mars. More than two missions are
essential for these reasons and also multiple functions can be
carried out instead of the repeated missions which may waste time.

If any case any one fails, still the two working probes can
communicate via earth station. may help each other to find the cause
of any failure. even track each other. and if it happened so that
will be a miracle to find and trace the faulty probe on SUCH A BIG
SURFACE AREA OF THE MARS. and I am sure there will not be any
congestion but that will be like a mission of the "lost on the Mars".
and if it happened that way a BIG Sci fi movie will be on the way for
that "lost on the Mars".  and we are always ready to copy it again as
we copy on the news.

Trace the other and Communication among the working probes is also
not an easy task. searching for the companion will be a big job for
each other. a single message will take at least 4 minutes
(Approximate 73,000,000 km / 3, 00,000 km /s speed of message= 243
seconds) to reach on the Mars (only one way message transmission).
and to see other partner and if found, send pictures back to earth is
a really tough job, time consuming and lot of patience will require
handling it rather than a congestion issue on the MARS.
Finding probes and Mars Obiter? could be easier if the Mars orbital
is left in the ORBIT around the Mars to make the communication and
tracking device assistance. (as was the case in the Moon landing -
Lunar landing Module and Lunar orbital - Returning Craft)

Science Fiction & films - if any exiting thing happed, that will give
rise to the next big movie of Mars expedition and Sci fi film. but
that depend what will happen. Hope our film industry will follow
their steps behind them. Needs step ahead for such an action, what
might happen rather that what has happened, for the inspiration of
the science in our scientific society to enhance the scientific
thinking and encouragement. we should be ready to offer all the
support for such a sci fi activity for our society. Hope some one
will come forward to think about it.

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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: Dear Science and Astronomy friends, Time to Be ready to
celebrate Christmas on Mars.
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:45 PM

3) C) MARS Gravitation field (not the MARS - G )

Distance from the Sun = 227.9 mn Km.           MARS G = 0.38 (Earth G
=1)               Mars Mass = 0.107 Earth Mass

Sun mass = 3084112 Mars mass.

For that let us take square root of 3084112= 1756,  from the Sun 1756
d and 1d from the MARS = 1757 d,

Now let us divide the Distance from the Sun 227.9 mn Km  / 1757  =
129709 km = 1d,

If we stay at distance from the Mars at 1 d =129709 km  and 1756 d
from the Sun – Sun gravitation will be reduced by 1756 x1756=3083636,
mean will be equal to that of the Mars at that point in the space.

Looking at the Mars data  though Mars G is only  = 0.38 (Earth G =1)
and Mars Mass = 0.107 Earth Mass, the gravitational field is wider
than the expected (nearly half of that of the Earth,  (Mars at 1 d
=129709 km – as for the Earth 1d =260173 km).

That is how the Mars has comparative more influence on gravity at
that place in space. And starts dragging objects and accelerating
quite earlier than we think and more time gives more speed of probes
to wards the mars surface – and speed is gained more than we think
(speed = gt) towards the Mars.

Try to swap the place of the Mars and earth and re calculate all
data. And see what happens to their gravitational field area. Which
one shrinks and which one swells up and how much? What will be the
effects on the speeds for descents?

So we need to plan more deceleration on the descents of the probes.
Even space shuttle retrograde propellers could reduce the speed of
entry to save from friction heat in the case of damaged surface.

We should keep in mind that Astronauts travelling to ISS never feel
the acceleration of Earth G but Deceleration of the Earth G. those
orbits are well below the Gravitational field limit of the Earth.
E.G. lower orbits from 300 to 800 and geosichronising orbits to 36000
Km. But those all orbits are still well below the Gravitational field
limit of the Earth, Higher the orbit slower the circular speed of the
Body in the orbit. ranging from 90 minutes to a day for a single
circle.

If the body travel from OUTSIDE of Earth gravitation files of Earth
towards the Earth and if Enters the Earth G Field - it feels the
acceleration of earth G depending on the enter angle to the Earth G
sphere. and accordingly bends the path of the travel. May pass in the
field or divert the path in the space. .

E.G. satellites orbiting earth at about 36000 Km is about six times
above the earth centre and the G falls to about 1/6 X 1/6 = 1/36 so G
=980/36 CM = only 27.22 CM, while body at the height of Earth G
boundary at 260 000 km it has G of less than a 1/2CM and tends to
ZERO if the body just slides the Earth G sphere - means may not enter
at all to the earth G filed and NO EARTH G is applicable to that
body.

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"MARS LANDING BEGAL2" & "VENUS TRANSIT JUNE2004"

Dr. BHUDIA: "MARS LANDING BEGAL2:1" ( Welcome to My Room ) Dr.
BHUDIA: we will come on Live on this "MARS LANDING BEGAL2:1"
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on this "VENUS TRANSIT JUNE2004:1" on 8 th June 2004

From: KutchScience Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AM

On 8th June 2004 the planet Venus will cross the Sun's disk as seen
from Earth. It will cut into the solar disk at about 5:20am in the
morning and will pass off the other limb at about 11:23am. The last
occasion on which this happened was 1882, over a century ago.

Looking at the Sun at any time is potentially dangerous and can
result in serious eye damage or blindness. The safest way to view the
Sun is indirectly using a projection method.


VENUS Radius vector: 0.7261900 AU (109 million km) and SUN Radius
vector: 1.0150791 AU (152 million km)

ON 8th June Venus is at 0. : 0.7262 AU from Sun so 0.2889 AU from
Earth (1.0150791-0. 0.7262). And VENUS Diameter is 12012KM which
covers area of Sun about 12012 x 1.0151/0.2889 = 42206 Km Sun area.
This is greater part of the Sun than VENUS Diameter.

Sun D= 1391980 and divide by area covered by VENUS 42206, Gives us
how big area of Sun is covered by Planet Venus of 12012 Km diameter.
1391980 /42206 =32.98. So it covers nearly about 1/33of the Sun.
You may view the Sun directly only through a special filter made for
safe solar viewing. If you are not certain that a filter is approved
and safe or you have any other doubts - DO NOT USE IT.
Times of Transit 8th June 2004
All times given in UT (h:m:s).
Dec. 1631
  Dec. 1639

June 1761
  June 1769

Dec. 1874
  Dec. 1882

June 2004
  June 2012

Dec. 2117
  Dec. 2125

External Ingress  05:19:57    (IST 10:49:57)
Internal Ingress  05:39:39 (IST 11:09:39)
Internal Egress  11:04:06 (IST 16:34:06)
External Egress  11:23:15  (IST 16:53:15)
As you can see from the list below, transits of Venus across the
Sun's disk are very rare (there are only about 12 per millennium!).
We are quite lucky that two transits are going to happen in the next
few years although the second one is only partially visible from some
parts of Europe.
There is a curious 243 year repeating pattern with two transits in
December (around the 8th) 8 years apart. Then wait 121 and half
years, then two June transits (around 7th), again 8 years apart. Then
wait 105 and half years and the pattern repeats again.

Information about Venus for 08 Jun 2004 05:00:40
(Julian day number 2453164.70880)
Local Information
Apparent topocentric coordinates for the epoch of date:
Right ascension: 5h 7m 50.39s
Declination: +22° 45' 5.7"
Constellation: Taurus
Altitude:  8° 31' 55"
Azimuth: 62° 49' 41"
Rise: 3h 47m 31s
Transit: 12h 8m 16s
Set: 20h 27m 25s
Geocentric Information
Apparent geocentric coordinates for the epoch of date:
Right ascension: 5h 7m 49.135s
Declination: +22° 45' 30.29"
True distance: 0.2888833 AU (43 million km)
Horizontal parallax: 30.44"
Heliocentric Information
Ecliptic coordinates for the epoch of date:
Ecliptic longitude: 257° 39' 19.4"
Ecliptic latitude: -0° 3' 19.8"
Radius vector: 0.7261900 AU (109 million km)
Physical Information
Magnitude: -3.7
Phase: 0.000
Phase angle: 180.0°
Elongation: 0.0°
Diameter: 57.74"
Light time: 0h 2m 24.2s
Position angle of the bright limb: 294.5°
Mass: 4.8690e+024 kg (0.815 x Earth)
Mean equatorial radius: 6051.8 km (0.9488 x Earth)
Maximum angular diameter: 60.2"
Minimum geocentric distance: 0.277 AU
Geometric flattening: 0
Sidereal rotation period: 243d 0h 26m 56s (retrograde)
Mean density: 5.24 g/cm^3
Geometric albedo: 0.65 Information about Sun for 08 Jun 2004 05:00:40
(Julian day number 2453164.70880)
Local Information
Apparent topocentric coordinates for the epoch of date:
Right ascension: 5h 6m 42.74s
Declination: +22° 52' 23.6"
Constellation: Taurus
Altitude:  8° 46' 41"
Azimuth: 62° 58' 21"
Rise: 3h 42m 53s
Transit: 12h 9m 9s
Set: 20h 35m 54s
Geocentric Information
Apparent geocentric coordinates for the epoch of date:
Right ascension: 5h 6m 42.384s
Declination: +22° 52' 30.62"
True distance: 1.0150685 AU (152 million km)
Horizontal parallax: 8.66"
Heliocentric Information
Ecliptic coordinates for the epoch of date:
Ecliptic longitude: 77° 45' 6.0"
Ecliptic latitude: -0° 0' 0.1"
Radius vector: 1.0150791 AU (152 million km)
Physical Information
Magnitude: -26.8
Light time: 0h 8m 26.5s
Mass: 1.9891e+030 kg (3.329e+005 x Earth)
Mean equatorial radius: 696000 km (109.1 x Earth)

	 Events for Tuesday 08 Jun 2004

00:26 Pluto transits the meridian
00:28 Uranus rises
00:44 Moon rises
00:45 Jupiter sets
01:24 Start of nautical twilight
02:51 Start of civil twilight
03:11 Mercury rises
03:43 Sun rises
03:48 Venus rises
04:14 Neptune transits the meridian
05:08 Moon transits the meridian
05:10 Pluto sets
05:38 Uranus transits the meridian
05:38 Saturn rises
06:04 Mars rises
08:44 Neptune sets
09:45 Moon sets
10:47 Uranus sets
11:00 Jupiter rises
11:17 Mercury transits the meridian
12:08 Venus transits the meridian
12:09 Sun transits the meridian
13:57 Saturn transits the meridian
14:30 Mars transits the meridian
17:51 Jupiter transits the meridian
19:26 Mercury sets
19:39 Pluto rises
20:27 Venus sets
20:36 Sun sets
21:28 End of civil twilight
22:17 Saturn sets
22:55 Mars sets
22:56 End of nautical twilight
23:39 Neptune rises


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From: KutchScience SAT&SUNday October 25&26 2003

Wish you all A very happy Diwali and a very prosperous New year

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Dear Friends,

Recent Study has shown that :
NASA 1) Just test flight carried out to experiment the Laser beam can
direct energy towards the photovoltaic cells which power the
flight.  - This may revolutionise the space flights to Moon and
satellite launches. and the aviation.

2) Medical :
A) Human for of BSE (vCJD) is under the to treat the case by
injecting with PENTOSAL POLYSULPHATE in to the brain directly.

B) Combination of ANTIBIOTICS (DOXYCYCLIN + Rifampin) can interfere
with the build-up of Plaques around the brain cells those are a
HALLMARKS for development of ALZHEIMER'S.

Early Diagnosis:
Summary
Early diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease (AD) is needed to initiate
symptomatic treatment with acetylcholinesterase inhibitors, and will
be of even greater significance if drugs aimed at slowing down the
degenerative process, such as vaccination regimes and â-secretase and
ã-secretase inhibitors, prove to affect AD pathology and to have
clinical effect. However, there is no clinical method to determine in
which patients mild cognitive impairment (MCI) will progress to AD
with dementia, and in which patients MCI is benign. Hence, there is a
great clinical need for biomarkers to identify incipient AD in
patients with MCI. The CSF biomarkers total tau protein,
phosphorylated tau protein, and the 42 amino-acid residue form of
amyloid-â may, if put in the right clinical context, prove to have
high enough diagnostic accuracy to meet this challenge.

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Dear Science and Nature Friends,

We been to visit MASAI tribes in Masai MARA in end of august. along
with those tribes we been with the Lion & Lioness of the MASAI MARA.
we also visited the places along the Equator. we were so much
surprised to know their interest to the nature and the equator. Each
Road and places on Equator are Marked with the sign. and Lions Club
has played a role to display those landmarks.  Hope our Lions Club
and Rotary Club Particularly in Area District of 3050 - BHUJ -
Ahmedabad and Rajasthan will take some interest in those of our
Tropical of Cancer to display those on the roads so as to advertise
them selves too.

On 28 August we arranged a flight to south of the equator to the
North - passing OVER the EQUATOR region and also seeing the orbital
paths of sky dome and the MARS. Particularly the MARS at the height
of 40000 feet above the cloud level so as to avoid and cloud covering
of the mars when the MARS is close to earth. On flight we informed to
the crews pilots and captains to declare to all flight passengers and
we announced to all on flight. - so all passengers could see mars on
the right side (as we flied south to north) just above the Horizon to
coming up. Every one enjoyed the occasion in the sky.

It was a fantastic experience to have. we did not wish to miss that.
Full Pictured report will be ready soon and do not hesitate to ask
for.
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(More information mail and correspondences to University of Florida
and Geologists and anthropologist are attached in attached mail and
all attachments)

Kutch was a part of (new science name) Gondwanaland = Old name JUMBU
DWIPE- Jambu dwip, BHARAT KHANDE- Bharat Khand was a Indian plate
(including kutch).

According to VEDA these words means that. JUMBU DWIPE BHARAT KHANDE -
JUMBU DWIPE - BHARAT KHANDE.

We can not deny Vedas word and neither the SARASWATI (ancient
Saraswati river) river basin. And its archaeology.

So we need to prepare our selves and others to understand and
evaluate not only VEDAs but also Kutch the original part of
Gondwanaland (Jambu Dwip).

More are there like South Africa. Only need is to observe and sight
to observe (archaeological Divya Chakshu)

THE EARLY MAN
                There are evidences of the Early man in Kutch · It is
believed that kutch was a part of the 'Gondvana' continent (African
continent) millions of years ago when the present Kutch Saurashtra
was part of the East Africa. Stone Age tools were found from the
gravels of Bhuki river near Nakhatrana. Stone Age tools have also
been discovered from other parts of Gujarat confirming the advent of
the Early Man from Africa to India. The original settlers in Kutch
were aborgins who were probably driven out down south of Vindhyachal
by the tribes who migrated to Kutch from the north and west .

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/07/04/safrica.dinosaur.reut/
JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (Reuters) -- The remains of a two-ton
dinosaur have lurked in a South African university for more than 20
years -- but only now have researchers realized it is the oldest
direct ancestor of the largest creatures ever to walk the earth.

Scientists said Thursday that the fossil, dug up in 1981, was the
earliest known example of a sauropod, the group of giant plant-eating
reptiles that ruled the Jurassic world between 205 and 145 million
years ago.

The fossil is 215 million years old, and represents a new species of
sauropod that would have been the largest land animal of its time,
weighing 1.8 tons and stretching 26 to 33 feet from nose to tail.

"We have got a very, very early sauropod ... the earliest yet found,"
said Adam Yates, a palaeontologist at Johannesburg's University of
the Witwatersrand.

Small compared to relatives
Yates first noticed that the forgotten fossil had been wrongly
classified when he was a visiting research student.

"I was so lucky that no one else had moved on this specimen before,"
he said.

Antetonitrus ingenipes, as Yates has named his find, is a minnow
compared to its grandchildren. Argentinosaurus, probably the largest
sauropod, has a strong claim to be the heaviest land animal of all
time, weighing 100 tons.

"This discovery tells us a lot about the way the group actually
developed ... Antetonitrus is not a giant yet but it gives us some
clues as to the evolution of gigantism," Yates said.

Classified wrong
Previously the earliest known sauropod was the 210-million-year-old
Isanosaurus, found in Thailand.

Antetonitrus was found by veteran fossil hunter James Kitching in
1981. But the remains were initially classified as belonging to the
prosauropod group, and left to gather dust in the university's
archaeology institute.

Sauropods were the first dinosaurs to walk on four short, equal-
length legs, while their prosauropod predecessors had shorter fore-
limbs than hind-limbs and were scavengers as well as grazers.

Yates noticed that the creature's backbone had sauropod
characteristics, and after intensive study he and Kitching
reclassified it as a new sauropod species in a paper published in the
Proceedings of the Royal Society.

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NEVER EXPERIMENT THIS as IT IS AGAIN DANGEROUS to YOUR EYE & may harm
2U.

Many time questions arise in peoples mind that "It is said that
during the time of the SUN eclipse one should not look at the sun
directly or rather should look through some special specs only. So
what so special happen during eclipse that it can damage ones eyes.
Whether that the sun is  covered by moon or not the rays emitting
from sun will remain the same. So why is it so that during eclipse
only one need some help to see the sun" ??

we get some simple form of answers that in simple language we can
say  "During Normal times the Sun's intensity is so high that you
will not be able to look up to it. But during an eclipse, when the
sun's disc is partly covered by the moon, it's intensity drastically
reduces. Thus you'll be able to look at the sun's disc without much
difficulty, i'e, we tend to stare at it for a longer time. This can
expose your eyes to the deadly rays, which can lead to blindness".

Relations of the size of the PUPIL aperture of the EYE and Intensity
of Light & Retina exposure in Sun Eclipse.

(Ask for a mail for figure) <=Fig 1: To show the area comparison of
the Area ratio of pupil is 9 times with the Light intensity decrease
of 1/3 times. And light intensity is proportional to the area of the
source as below. (With the decrease of the light intensity during the
Sun eclipse eye pupil becomes wider accordingly.)

When we see to the sun our pupil becomes a PIN POINT size (less than
a sq mm size) but during Near total eclipse pupil may widens to about
40 times in sq mm area.

Here your Eye camera aperture is wider to make an over exposure to
your FILM of RETINA. As the coming sun light has the same intensity
as it come from a slit or aperture – and it is worst at the time of
Diamond Ring – before and after total eclipse of the Sun. BIG
intensity difference as bigger area of sun is covered. (And eye has
some latent time to react to the intensity of light. That is a
physiological reaction time of the pupil by Muscles of IRIS.)

Fig A=> (ASK FOR MAIL for Figures)<= Fig B :  In Fig A the area is
about the half and in B about ¾ so the light intensity and the
temperature variations will be accordingly ½ and ¾ th.

So Fig B ¾ th Of the intensity expects exposure 16/9 nearly about the
TWICE only retinal exposures WHILE  Fig A eclipse ½ intensity make
retinal exposure of about 4 times.

Not only science says so but old belief too. And they are not wrong.
They have thousands of years of such observations experiences.  Many
people say that more severe the eclipse more dangerous it is and that
this calculation study says so.

* Does it affect the pregnancy? And the foetus development? Harder
(severe - covered) the eclipse of the Sun more dangerous it is. –
This will not include in this topics as it needs more detailed
knowledge of the subjects of  Physiology, gynaecology,  Obstetrics
and Embryology and development of nervous system and part of
radiology. And worth to discuss with those expertise only.

OVER AND ABOVE THESE other simple human factors are included to
multiply those above effects (these all has synergic effects to burn
your Film of retina. This may vary from person to person and genetic
adaptation power of the individuals) and are understood by the
general public. Factors includes are a) MENTAL (Curiosity – anxiety),
b)Physical Temperature tolerance of the body for HEAT of the
atmosphere and more as :

c) Physiological: as we seen above diagrams the (physiological reflex
reactions of the papillary muscles of the eye to the light intensity
and the sensitivity to the visible spectrum of the light. Let me say
that, this not say for invisible infrared and ultraviolet spectrum of
the light. Pupil is not adapted for the reflex reaction to invisible
spectrum light. Ophthalmologist needs to study those in details eg.
Infrared heat rays do not affect the size of the pupil so with
others – microwave, ultraviolet and X-rays etc.)

a) MENTAL (staring time is to be multiplied as Curiosity &
anxiety ), - how often (time in seconds) you look to the sun as a
part of the curiosity to see the Sun in a day in the normal
circumstances?  AND how the Curiosity of the SUN eclipse changes your
pattern to those observations?  Twice? Thrice? So multiply that times
factor to the above retinal exposure time as a mental curiosity
multiplying factor. And does that curiosity factor vary from type of
the eclipse and partial or totality of the sun eclipse? Find out your
observation figures for Human curiosity. (Many experiments has done
on the insects, birds and animals and plants and do not say that only
exists in us only. We do not understand their behaviour that does not
mean they do not understand nature's behaviour. Every thing do react
to those phenomenon including chloroplasts of the cell of the plant,
birds confused and fly over here and there to the nests, animal and
insects change direction and even wind change – "PAVAN DEVATA BHI
MARG BADAL- dete hai to" What are we?)

b)Physical: Temperature tolerance of the body for HEAT of the
atmosphere. As in normal condition temperature will restrain you to
go out to see Sun but as in Sun eclipse temperature drops according
to the severity of the SUN eclipse, accordingly our body feels more
comfortable to go our out side and more retinal film exposure.
(Body's physiological adaptations: That is less likely with less
eclipse and more likely with more and total eclipse – as temperature
factor is proportional to the severity of the Sun Eclipse). Use this
factor to multiply the total exposure of the Retinal Film of our
Camera of the EYE.

To protect our Camera we should reduce exposure time by Shutter
speeds but here our Physiological shutter goes wrong way by both
Mental and Physical factors.

In the space! We know that the danger is there for radiation exposure
and also Light intensity exposure to our retina as the atmosphere
control is not there. But we and our PUPIL is aware of this
brightness so it reacts normally to control the light input in your
camera of the eye at some extent and rest we do to cover our eyes
with protective glasses – so we do all to protect our film of RETINA
and camera of EYE - like as we are prepared to fight with as our
pupil does react to the brightness. (As we normally prepared to fight
for Defence from incoming dangers).

In space the intensity and radiation are about 100 times than that on
the Earth's. so out of that 100 times radiation and brightness 40% is
controlled by papillary normal physiological reaction and rest we
adjust with protective lenses cover – Crafts window cover and
individual lenses.

In the Sun eclipse. We are not prepared to response – as if thief
takes all behind our knowledge – we get cheated here as our response
is not appropriate. Pupils get cheated as the intensity drops it
allows more rays to enter to the eye. Even a single slit ray or a
spot ray may harm at any time. Rays has no name written on it – that,
that is harmless or not harmless, may it be Sun's Visible or
invisible spectrum light of infrared to ultra violet. Or may it be
industrial X-ray and atomic Gamma waves.

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Crow species found to discriminate against non-kin A new study on
crows
suggests that one of their
species distinctly discriminate kin from non-kin.

The Northwestern crow (Corvus caurinus) uses a passive strategy when
it
attempts to take food from kin but becomes aggressive when it tries
to steal
a morsel from a non-related crow. This is believed to be the first
time that
such a behaviour pattern has been observed in any bird species.

The findings are published in the current issue of the journal Bird
Behavior
by Renee Robinette Ha, a UW lecturer in psychology, and James Ha, a
research
associate professor of psychology. In a companion paper to be
published in
the next issue of the journal, the Has, a husband-wife team,
quantified
scrounging or thievery attempts among Northwest crows. When birds
found
valuable items such as small fish or clams, other birds tried to
steal the
food 46 percent of the time and 41 percent of those attempts were
successful.

"They can tell who they are related to and treat birds differently.
We know
it is more complex and sophisticated than being based on just the
birds they
know. Crows and other corvids (ravens, jays and magpies) are highly
complex
cognitively and socially, and are very adaptive", said Renee Ha, one
of the
researchers.

Earlier work by the Has showed that thievery is common among these
birds,
which are constantly looking for an opportunity to filch a snack from
another crow.

When the birds are related, a crow will use a passive strategy
and "walk up
to or kind of sidle next to the bird with the food. Often the second
bird
will give up the food to the scrounger," said Renee Ha. "With
aggressive
scrounging, there is usually a flying approach by the thief who
nearly lands
on the other bird.

"This can be followed by vocalization, physical contact and attempts
to take
the food. Usually it also involves chasing and avoidance by the bird
with
the food."

She added that there does not appear to be any other pattern
associated with
scrounging. The sex or age of the birds do not seem to be factors and
the
birds will steal from relatives as well as non-relatives.

Crows alter their thieving behaviour when dealing with kin or other
birds.

Dr Bhudia kutchscience@...

Dear Science friends,

Recently scientists working on the early warning system for natural
disaster have found some thing to work on it.
animal Scientists have found that animals like rats - do disappear
from the burrows well before the earthquakes / ground activity.

That is because those animal can hear an INFRASOUND waves which human
ear can not hear. Ground activity and other natural disasters do
produce the InfraSound waves before actual disaster to happen.

Scientists are working to produce a system which do work on those
early warning system based on the INFRA-SOUND system, which can
inform us for natural disasters well before that (Earth quakes,
Volcanoes, Tornadoes, avalanches and also for under ground Nuclear
testing etc) happens. so we will be aware of such disaster well
before the present system gives us information like (monitoring Infra
sound from the Earth activity well before the we wait for sensing of
earth waves for the Earthquakes)

From Yours : Dr. BHUDIA.- Science Group Of INDIA.
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Dear Science Friends,

We just received news information by CNN News Broadcast (2:25am =
1:25GMT on 9/Feb/02) that NASA scientist have considered those
suggestion to be put in action by putting forward those to NASA for
the following 1, 2 & 3 of 4. hope they also wish to consider More
robotic activity and reduce Human risk in the future.(Mail below 1-
NASA REPLY) and our suggestions (Our suggestion mail at the bottom  2-
OUR MAIL SUGGESTIONS.) for space missions.

  *1) space shuttle should have an extra CAPSULE for astronauts so in
case of the emergency whole CAPSULAR Module is ejected out safely
with the astronauts of the shuttle in such an emergency.

*2) In space check by the Robotic photo graphic check on the surfaces
(Under surfaces ) of the Shuttle - so as to know what can be done to
avoid such disaster. we already have those technique on hands but not
utilised properly.

* 3) Reduce the speed of the entry to atmosphere by retrograde rocket
propellers. If we have the "space shuttle with an extra CAPSULE for
astronauts so in case of the emergency whole CAPSULAR Module is
ejected out safely with the astronauts of the shuttle in such an
emergency" capsule can land at safer place in sea.

* 4) even though we utilise our all resources for safety with such a
Capsule and astronauts emergency landing, we should insist more
Robotics and less human guinea pigs from countries all around the
world.

1) NASA REPLY
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To: <kutchscience@...>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: Thank you for your email.


Thank you for your interest in NASA!  We value your comments and
questions. Due to the overwhelming volume of mail we receive each
day, our response may take some time. In the meantime, check our
subject index for further help:
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2) OUR MAIL
SUGGESTIONS.
From: KutchScience
To: comments@... ; comments@... ;
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: NASA

Dear Science and astronomy Friends,

It is very much shocking to know that space shuttle Columbia is Lost
for ever but not totally un-predictable, But we could not save it at
all. every one knows that "the Dangers are out there in the space" We
always need to keep in mind that Beware of science "dangers of the
space" and do not be a guinea pigs as it happened this time. and we
should use more robotic mission and less human activity to avoid this
Human loss - from any country in the world.

Most common chance of this outlook is at the shift off and at the
time of re-entry. Now we had both such bad experience in our nearly
130 mission at the rate of 1.56% failure and is too high - like a war-
  We need to avoid this.

1/65 failure is too high and we can not accept that rate of failure
to HUMAN loss. We just cant make Humans a guinea pigs for this
reasons when we know all about "the Dangers are out there in the
space"

1) Lift off : space shuttle should have an extra CAPSULE for
astronauts so in case of the emergency whole CAPSULAR Module is
ejected out safely with the astronauts of the shuttle in such an
emergency.

2) In space check : Robotic photo graphic check on the surfaces
(Under surfaces ) of the Shuttle - so as to know what can be done to
avoid such disaster. we already have those technique on hands but not
utilised properly.

3) Return to earth : Reduce the speed of the entry to atmosphere by
retrograde rocket propellers. If we have the "space shuttle with an
extra CAPSULE for astronauts so in case of the emergency whole
CAPSULAR Module is ejected out safely with the astronauts of the
shuttle in such an emergency"
capsule can land at safer place in sea.

4) even though we utilise our all resources for safety with such a
Capsule and astronauts emergence landing, we should insist more
Robotics and less human guinea pigs from countries all around the
world.

From Yours : Dr. BHUDIA.- Science Group Of INDIA.
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Dear friends,

Now our Clubs?groups are uploaded with photo albums.

http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/kutchscience
has photo albums of 1) DHOLAVIRA INDUS. 2) KERA INDUS "GADHWARI" and
3) Gunavari Fossils site.
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1)BHUJ PHOTO ALBUM 2000 and 2) and MAKANPAR DHONSA Photo VISIT.
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1) DHOLAVIRA INDUS. 2) KERA INDUS "GADHWARI" and 3) Gunavari Fossils
site.
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1)KERA INDUS "GADHWARI" and MOCHIRAI before Earthquake

You can JOIN US in these CLUBS/GROUPS and also add your photo to
those albums too

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From: Kutch ScienceSent:           Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:53 PM

Subject: www.rediff.com/Rediff On The NeT Bombay geologists unearth
dinosaur fossil in Kutch.htm
And New pictures from Dholavira ARCHAELOGY AND FOSSILs GEOLOGY OF
DHOLAIRA.
Bombay geologists unearth dinosaur fossil in Kutch
A four-member team of Bombay-based geologists have unearthed remains
of a Jurassic Age dinosaur's fossil at Kaur Bet in Kutch, which is
said to be one of the oldest prehistoric remains found in India and
in this part of the globe.
''This proves that these mighty reptiles roamed the country millions
of year ago,'' said Dr K K Das, superintendent geologist with Oil and
Natural Gas Corporation Ltd, who is a member of the team. The other
members are Dr K Satyanarayana, deputy general manager (geology dept)
of the ONGC and two other senior geologists of the company, Dr D K
Dasgupta and Dr Alok Dave.
The discovery was made by the ONGC's regional geology laboratory team
recently when they were on a geological mission at Kaur Bet in the
Kutch region of Gujarat, across the western sector. ''The fossil
treasure that the ONGC team has unearthed will help researchers,
geologists and archaeologists a lot'', Dr Das said in Bombay. ''This
is the oldest known remains of a dinosaur in India, and is expected
to belong to the middle Jurassic period, ie, around 178 million years
old," he said.
Talking about what the team has unearthed, Dr Das said, ''We have
unearthed fossil bones of probable spinal column and legs.'' Huge,
petrified tree remains were also found. Currently the fossils have
been kept under the control of the Indian Army and the Border
Security Force, he added.
It was found on the surface along with associated limestone
rocks. ''It belongs to the middle Jurassic age from Kaladongar
formation, geologically dated on the basis of micro-organisms
present,'' he said. It is expected to be around 178 million years
old.
Earlier reported findings were from the Inter-Trappean beds of Anjar
hills, some 80 km from Kaur Bet, which were said to be around 65
million years old. The findings of the team of scientists have been
published in the latest edition of Current Science, a leading science
journal published from Bangalore. He said more research can be
carried out in this area in association with other agencies. On being
asked about the feelings after the team discovered the fossil, Dr Das
said, ''We were really happy.''

From: KutchScience   Cc:; news@rediff ; kutchmitra ;
ceo@... ;  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 9:31 PM
Dear Science friends, Before I write again after a long break to
visit Indian ancient civilisation in Kutch -DHOLAVIRA and Geological
sites of Kutch, I would like to tell that NOW it has become more
difficult to differentiate the Science of Astronomy, Geology and
archaeology in relation to KUTCH.
Archaeological History in thousands of years e.g. Indus civilisation
5000 to 10,000 of years.  Geological History of Millions of Years e.
g. Fossilised history of Dinosaurs 65 Mn years to 220+ Mn years and
Astronomical history of the billions of Years e. g. life span of our
SUN 8.64 Bn of years.
When I visited to Dholavira - KOTADA, first I visited the founder of
that ancient civilisation, Shri Sambhudan Gadhavi. I recorded his
visit and I would like to put some of the conclusion of the visit
with him in DHOLAVIRA.
Mr. Sambhudan Gadhavi was interested in our ancient civilisation, but
he was not the archaeologist. THERE WAS LOK VAYAKA - "peoples'
belief" that there was an OLD GADH - Old Castle and people were dead
there many years ago and every one in village Dholavira was aware of
these and That was not the new for local people.
Mr Sambhu Gadhavi  was interested in that as those stones of
foundation and castle was evidently visible to every one. He started
to collect the pottery parts and one day he found one with a picture
of the Indus civilisation symbol. "As he was collecting those pottery
parts - THIKARIEs, He was locally also known as DHIKARIO". according
to him he found the pottery part that resembles the picture of the
HARAPPAN which he studied and seen in the history book of year 5-6 of
that time. So he decided to take it to the museum curator of Kutch
Museum at BHUJ. and said to Him " I have found the pottery part that
resembles the picture of the HARAPPAN which I studied and seen in the
history book of year 5-6 ".
And the research started and we found the NEW - Most ANCIENT Indian-
Indus civilisation of the world. which is destroyed before about 5000
years? so that civilisation must have developed before another 5000
years means that civilisation must be 10,000 years old. which I wrote
in 2000 that that time scale relates to Mahabharata and the
YADAVASTHALi time.
Surprisingly same LOK VAYAKA is there "peoples' believe that there is
NAND KUVA - well and many NAND related Things were found including
NAND KUVA - a well" and that confirms that at that time scale that
Nand Vansh is YADU VANSH and so that is part of The YadavaSthali.
Human Bones found at those places requires to be examined for the
injury by sharp weapons. one skull was found with the injury of spear.
Not only that archaeologists at Dholavira found some fossilised
stones of the WOOD FOSSILs. - Picture "woodfossile3.jpg" is attached -
  holding in my hand. Not only that some of the stone used in the
construction of Old DHOLAVIRA are those fossils stones. and that
needs attention of the Geologists along with the Archaeologists
working in Dholavira.
Khadir - where Dholavira is established is it self a land of fossils.
Land is in the RANN of the KUTCH and also border area. so prohibited
for exploration. So we contacted the Military authority to assist us.
They promised us to take us to escort to those places of KHADIR and
BHANJADO Mountain and KAUR BAT for Dinosaurs fossils land of 180 Mn
years old and also collaborate with us for scientific research. That
will explore not only the Archaeology but also those Geological areas
of the fossils land.
LOK VAYAKA "Peoples belief" says there are more Castles in the middle
of the desert and on the Mountain of BHANJADO. and that co relate
with the MAHABHARAT. so more ancient civilisation -even more ANCIENT
than the Dholavira are to be found in those area - north of the
Dholavira.
*** A NEW INDUS CIVILISATION JUST FOUND. recorded and documented on
13/September 2002.
New sites of Indus have been found in Kutch Near KERA. five
kilometres away from the LAKHO FULANI's Kera Castle. That is a place
of Rivers and Water reservoir. LOK VAYAKA - people's belief is that
there was a GADH - Castle and KHANDERS- old house foundations. also
Water reservoir which dried after the LIGHT stroked from the sky
without THUNDER - or Noise!! - MAY IT BE AN ASTEROID IMPACT? let us
see.
We were waiting to visit this place since many years and we got the
right person, timing and situation, We found our Historian BHARATBA.
M. Jadeja. We visited a farming land. we found the part of the GADH -
castle and the land covered in the trees. most of that was destroyed
for farming and the castle stones were used to make boundaries of
that farming land. the farmers also found the foundation stones of
the houses and the castle. human bones. and Indus civilisation THINGS
like KHADALIO and JUGS and potteries. Some of those are attached with
this mail. e.g. Khandali.jpg, Shankh.jpg, Indus.jpg, etc.
KERA castle history is within 1000 years and if the any of the Castle
was built after that that would have been recorded in the history.
But that is not the case as our historian says. so that must be our
NEW ancient Indus civilisation in the Kutch. We took all the
foundlings to our best friend & ex-curator of Kutch Museum who also
guided Mr. Shambhudan Gadhavi for exploration of Dholavira. He
suggested that those looks dating back to Indus civilisation and
older than 3500 to 4000 years old and needs more accurate dating.
But surprisingly we recovered a porous fragile Stone - and still
Heavier than stone, Metallic, burnt and shining, at the look I
recognised as perfect Asteroid. That was part of Asteroid. might have
broken when ploughing the farming land. but I found small part of it
6"*4". that refers to the LOK VAYAKA - people's belief is that there
was a GADH - Castle and KHANDERS- old house foundations. also Water
reservoir which dried after the LIGHT stroked from the sky without
THUNDER - or Noise!! - MAY IT BE AN ASTEROID IMPACT that destroyed
that civilisation? Now question arises that how that civilisation
destroyed? more evidently with asteroid or some thing else. and if
that was the reason than whether all such civilisation has similar
impacts in the Kutch or some thing else. as most of the reasons for
the destruction of civilisation are not found yet and things needed
to explore the Astronomical aspects of the Ancient Civilisation.
Asteroid is attached with this mail as asteroid2.jpg.
Looking for further investigation and exploration of the areas of
Kutch and Ancient civilisation of the KUTCH. and we will send samples
to the archaeology department of Gujarat state and Archaeology
department of India. Asteroid sample will be sent to Natural History
and science Museum of London to compare with the other samples of the
Asteroids in the museum.
National Geographic Vol 197 No. 6 - JUNE 2000 - subject Indus
Civilisation.
I was just collecting the information in Indus and was studying the
role of the local languages to understand the interpretation of the
archaeological findings and How the Archaeologists ignore local
beliefs which comes in the generations of the local people or due to
that, may misinterpret the finding. as I just found one more of the
Indus civilisation in the kutch on the River bank. which is not
explored yet as is being used in the Farm land!!! Not only that
farmer has used the stones of that GADH of the ANCIENT INDUS
civilisation for making the boundary of his farm land and some of
that GADH is still left. We also discovered SEA SHELLs
called "SHANKHs" and a part of asteroid which might be a small part
of the big asteroid which might be broken by farming that land.
Some times mind of the archaeologist see only which is their mind and
can not see the historical time scale with those belief which comes
from the generations of the people.

Archaeologists missed the belief of the people - NAND KUVA-well and
many NAND related findings according to the beliefs of the local
people, which was found in the Dholavira by the archaeological
findings by Mr. Bisht. That time scale of 5000 years back - Who was
NAND -(YADU VANSH) and war of there after - called YADAVA STHALI -
during that time about 560 million people died in that region in war
amongst themselves not the rituals as our mind see it because we see
only which we know about it. so we need to know more, study the local
people and believes and culture and many more aspects rather than
just guessing game.
SIMILARLY now a days archaeologist just think what they know about.
Many Civilisation had relation with SEA SHELLs, and they think that,
those sells were used for preparing the ORNAMENTS!!! all Depends
where the shells were found. If we find any sliced shells than that
may be so but That is not the case for INDUS civilisation. Elephant
tusk Ivory was available at that time scale, and sliced sea shells
were not found as we think of it. Actually that time scale and Place
of Indus civilisation suggest that Those particular type & particular
sized shells were used to produce a NAAD - Shell sounds. That is
called "SHANKH NAADs" - Shell sounds used for alerting for fights.
eg. "SHANKH NAADs" for WAR time during MAHABHARAT before 5103 years.
Accidentally I just got the National geographic magazine on my hand
and I read some thin and LAUGHED at the following words and the
interpretation. to understand the fact and the findings we need to
understand all about the local people and believes and culture and
many more aspects. in other word we need to be a part of those
culture amongst them and then interpret those.
Refer article : National Geographic Vol 197 No. 6 - JUNE 2000 - Page
118 -2nd Paragraph- subject Indus Civilisation.
? hethan=hetten=Means HERE not the LEFT 	 ?
uttan=uthe=There Not the Right –
I assume that some one used Right hand to indicate - May be, he may
be right handed?  If so the Left handed might have interpreted other
way round!!!
Sorry to criticise National geographic but the fact need to be
understood and credits need to be earned.
We are very much thankful for the Local people - Farmers who escort
and guided us to the new places of the Ancient civilisations.
Military personals, our Ex-curator Shree Vaidya saheb and
Archaeologists, Geologists, and our Historian Bharatba. M. Jadeja to
support our work in a team and future co-operations.
Following reports will be ready soon and will be forwarded on mail
request only
1) An Archaeological report of Ancient Indus civilisations - and to
be Explored in the Kutch.
2) Geological survey of the KUTCH - a land of FOSSILs and dinosaurs.
3) Astronomical importance and Asteroids of the Kutch (23.5 N - an
astronomical importance.)
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confirmed that they have found the Vaccine for Anthrax.
today that will be presented to the Medical research
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conceived birth (4.1% of the Birth) . <br> <br>2) Scientist
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scientist found that Remained SUN LIFE of our SUN star can
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(Andromeda and Milky way are closing at the speed of 2000Km
/s * 3bn yers =22Mn light years ) will destroy the
stars of galaxies and the sun will neither become white
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Dear Friends, BEWARE OF WAR In the "HIMALAYAN
region<br><br>I sent following mail on Monday, September 17, 2001
12:26 PM then again in January 2002 after an Earthquake
in the region of Hindukush measuring 5.7 (Dec 2001)
and 6.2 (Jan 2002) during the war time. yesterday
(03/03/02 at about 17.38 pm IST) an earthquake of
increasing intensity of 7.2 in the Same region was recorded
In the "HIMALAYAN region (KETU=K2) to
Afghanistan(Epicentre @ HINDU KUSH),. <br><br>Sent: Monday, September
17, 2001 12:26 PM<br>Subject: BEWARE OF WAR In the
"HIMALAYAN region (KETU=K2) to Afghanistan(HINDU KUSH),"
-trigger of Earthquake<br><br><br>Dear Science
Friends,<br><br>Last month information was sent by mail as follows.
But now Geologist, scientist are worrying about the
coming man made stimulation to disturb this region by
war in the Region.Will the region "Pakistan(KETU=K2)
to Afghanistan(HINDU KUSH)," be disturbed by waves
of the bombarding and missing? What scale of
disturbances affects the Seismology of the Earth? Let us ask
our Experienced Expert Geologist and
Seismologist.<br><br>"Geological RESEARCH found that the HIMALAYAN region is
under
threat from BIG Earthquakes affecting 50m people in that
region. From Assam to Bhutan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Kashmir&
Delhi, Pakistan(KETU=K2) to Afghanistan(HINDU KUSH), The
South Tibetan Plate is under Danger and overdue for BIG
Earthquakes to come affecting VAST areas above. Kutch
Earthquake was only a SAMPLE!!! God Knows and God Protect
US."<br><br><a href=http://in.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/scienceclubofindia
target=new>http://in.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/scienceclubofindia</a><br><a
href=http://in.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kutchsciencefoundation
target=new>http://in.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kutchsciencefoundation</a>
<br><a href=http://in.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kutchscience
target=new>http://in.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kutchscience</a><br><br>Sent: Sunday,
March 03, 2002 6:42 PM<br>Subject: **
"last week** "The comet IKEYA Zhang was seen. &
scientist found that Remained SUN LIFE of our SUN".<br><br>
· Home Page:
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<a href=http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience2000
target=new>http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience2000</a> <br><br>** "This
week's Message"
04/03/02.<br><br>Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:26 PM<br>Subject:
BEWARE OF WAR In the "HIMALAYAN region (KETU=K2) to
Afghanistan(HINDU KUSH)," -trigger of Earthquake<br><br>03/03/02.
<br><br>Comet Ikeya Zhang is visiting solar planets after 1611
Ad. (nearly after 391 years.) <br><br>Visibility will
be around the 3 magnitude and will be coming up in
western sky in region of Pisces during the month of
march.<br><br>last month February 14, 2002 "<br>Just last night -
scientist found that Remained SUN LIFE of our SUN star can
not be greater than 3BN years as the two galaxies
(Andromeda and Milky way are closing at the speed of 2000Km
/s * 3bn yers =22Mn light years ) will destroy the
stars of galaxies and the sun will neither become white
dwarf nor the red Giant.<br><br>(Calculations: speed of
2000Km /s * 3bn yers =22Mn light years )<br><br>Yours
Dr. Bhudia. Science Group Of
INDIA.<br>kutchscience@...,
kutchscience@...,<br>www.geocities.com/kutchscience2000
<a href=http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience
target=new>http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience</a><br><br>President:"Kutch
Science Foundation".<br>Founder President:"Kutch
Amateurs Astronomers Club - Bhuj - Kutch".<br>Life
Member:"kutch Itihaas Parishad". <br><br>For quick access to
this page, bookmark:
<a href=http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience
target=new>http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience</a>

"Today's Magic sixty seconds at 20:02; 20.02.2002
time"." <br><br>Today's at 20:02; 20.02.2002 time (for
sixty seconds) the clock will show - 20:02; 20.02.2002
that will be the same for reverse reading as well.
<br><br>That has happened in the past on 11thNove 1111 as
11:11; 11.11.1111.<br><br>Next it will happen on 21st
December 2112 as 21:12; 21.12.2112. and never again there
after.<br><br>***Today Ring planet Saturn will vanish behind the our
Earth's Moon but Indian continent will miss the chance to
see that.<br><br>Feb 20, 2002, Saturn Occultation
Links: <br>A Saturn-Moon Spectacle (Sky & Telescope)
<br>Spectacular Saturn Occultation (ASO) <br>History of Saturn's
Lost Ring (IOTA) <br>Disappearance Times (IOTA)
<br>Reappearance Times (IOTA) <br>Yours Dr. Bhudia. Science Group
Of INDIA.<br>kutchscience@...,
kutchscience@...,<br>www.geocities.com/kutchscience2000
<a href=http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience
target=new>http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience</a><br><br>President:"Kutch
Science Foundation".<br>Founder President:"Kutch
Amateurs Astronomers Club - Bhuj - Kutch".<br>Life
Member:"kutch Itihaas Parishad".

Kutch Science Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001
10:32 AM<br>Dear Science Friends, I would like to write
YOU all our expert GEOLOGIST, Archaeologists and
ANTHROPOLOGIST on the subject of the new Geological researches.
WE have seen fossils of "Crocodiles" in "GUNAWARI"
at GANGESWAR Dome. Shree DAS surveyed KUTCH for ONGC
mission and on mining project for ONGC. He observed the
importance of KUTCH on geological science. some of the
fossils he declared as Mesozoic (Ammonites +208Mn years
and some CROCODILES "cretaceous period" 140 Mn years
together at the same place with a VAST time difference of
more than 65Mn Years). Some experts are in favour of
those DINO "Supercroc " are Prejurassic - Triassic +200
Mn years rather than "cretaceous period" 140 Mn
years.<br>What we are thinking of the Fossils of the
"crocodiles" are actually the ancestors (10-12meters size and
according to the wildlife expert David Attenborough "Marine
Dinosaurs") of the present time Crocodiles of 4 meter size.
<br>some describes as "CROCODILIAN" ancestors of many
species and that of crocodiles and some explain as
"Supercroc" "DINO". Those "sarcosuchus" ancestors of
crocodiles had protruding teeth and armoured plate and
lifespan of more than 110 years compared to 70 years of
present life span of the crocodiles. <br>Mesozoic
Ammonites +205Mn years and some CROCODILIANS of the
"cretaceous period of - JUNGLES IN KUTCH" +140 Mn years
together at the same place with a VAST time difference of
65Mn Years makes us to re-think about the time scale
and to understand geology of KUTCH, wildlife,
environment, history and fossils history.<br>Perhaps we need
to ask our expert geologist Shree DAS to visit KUTCH
again and give us an expert second opinion on the
subject to support the New research of Kutch geology. I
think this time every one should consult such an
experts who are in our touch and known to us to give
their advise for the benefit of the science of Geology.
<br><br>Yours Dr. Bhudia. Science Group Of
INDIA.<br>kutchscience@...,<br><a
href=http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience
target=new>http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience</a><br>President:"Kutch
Science Foundation".<br>Founder & Founder
President:"Kutch Amateurs Astronomers Club - Bhuj - Kutch".