From: kutchscience
To: kutchsciencefoundation ; scienceclubofindia ; Ashapura ; jairam oza ;
jyotsana ; jkrishna ; Triloki Pandey ; mgthakkar
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: 'Original' great ape discovered'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4014351.stm

Dear editorials, Science and Geologist friends,

Many doubts were raised when ETV and Bombay SAMACHAR broadcasted the following
news, with doubt that the PURVA - Aadi MANAV ancestor was not existing at that
time but now the skeleton evidence came out today that the ancestor missing link
was there at that time before (about 22 to 5.5 million years ago) between 11 and
16 million years ago. The partial skeleton of this 13-million-year-old "missing
link" was found by palaeontologists working at a dig site near Barcelona in
Spain.

That time matches with the Rameshwarm bridge and RAMAVATAR and Koteshwar -
RAVANa History (Tretauga), means Formation of MONKEY and Apes army formation by
DEVAs. that will rule out all the doubts raised for the PURVA - Aadi MANAV.

Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:29 AM
Subject: The print is about 17 inches long and does look like a normal human
footprint.


GUJARATI http://www.bombaysamachar.com/20040814/desh04.htm DETAILS ARE in News
Prints
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kutchScience/message/123
Some Geologist do disagree with the human footprints in Older layers but they
need to understand the later formations, on the layer of old fossilated layers
which are indistiguisable from the newly formed layers at the same place. (read
below)

Hominid Foot prints found in older layers may have been formed later in the
geological process but the study of Photomicrographs and infrared photography is
required so that to eliminate that there were no signs of carving or artificial
markings in or around the prints. A study of microscopic count of sand grains is
ralso required so indicating that the material within the prints had been
impacted, and created as the result of a force pressing down on the firmament
while it was soft. These facts show that the prints were made by the natural
result of pressure from the human foot, and in no way could have been duplicated
by carving. The rock in which the prints were discovered was estimated to be 100
million years old. In recent years, the prints may have been stolen by "thieves
and vandals."
so POP moulds has been prepared and saved, also a portion has been damaged while
removing POP moulds in parts from the print fossile. Many geologist did visited
the place secretely when no other one was there!

Distictive features of the Hominid foot prints.
1) Impresion of distinctive head of First metatarsal of right foot with very
wel-marked all toes.
2) Impresion of distinctive lost planter arch suggesting flat footed heavy
weight,
3) wel proportionate size (wide- long ) and toes impressions
4) many prints are worn out and some of diff sizes and different directions too
5) welmarked foot print size 43Cm - can suggest Body height of about 9 feet
jiant's HOMINID foot print.

Those who do not have sufficient knowledge, do disagree with views, Many doubts
that this is not called the fossil. and many say that layers are too old and
human was not there. but is the Human evolution time scale is adaquate? Man made
structures under sea in the Rameshwaram to shriLanka do stand in favour of the
Human activity long before, if that was RAMA time was RAVAN there and was
history of KOTESHWAR formation correct. then human evolution and Darvin may be
INCORRECT or just a guess and Human evolution history should be written in
correct way and order as western world is unaware of these VEDIC science and so
predict wrong way.

Phase Two Fossils: Burroughs Conjecture
The most cogent explanation of anomalous fossil footprints is perhaps offered by
Dr. William Greely Burroughs, of Berea College in Kentucky. Dr. Burroughs
conjecture is that a depression in fossil-bearing rock may, long after the
original fossils have been formed, be filled with a sediment that in its turn
may also become the medium in which the impression of a footprint or the body of
a creature is fossilized. When this second period of fossilization is complete
the newly formed rock may be indistinguishable from the older formation, and the
new fossils may appear to have formed at the same time as those which are much
older. Thus, several fossilization processes may wind up looking like a
footprint made at the same time. This is undoubtebly the case in many instances,
but the theory is lacking in several respects. Firstly, fossilized human
footprints have been found deep within rocks that show no evidence of
discontinuous formation, not just at the junction of sedimentary layers.
Secondly, out of place fossils are often inconsistent not only with the ages of
associated fossils but also with the rock strata and the age conventionally
ascribed to them.

A large stone bearing the perfect imprint of a human foot 14 1/2 inches long was
shown to members of the Ohio State Academy of science in 1896. The stone slab
had been dug from the ground in a hill four miles north of Parkersburg, West
Virginia some 20 years earlier.


The American Anthropologist, February 1896, p.66

'Original' great ape discovered :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4014351.stm

Scientists have unearthed remains of a primate that could have been ancestral
not only to humans but to all great apes, including chimps and gorillas. The
partial skeleton of this 13-million-year-old "missing link" was found by
palaeontologists working at a dig site near Barcelona in Spain. Details of the
sensational discovery appear in Science magazine. The new specimen was probably
male, a fruit-eater and was slightly smaller than a chimpanzee, researchers say.


The fossil has been described as a "missing link" It's very impressive
because of its completeness



Palaeontologists were just getting started at the dig when a bulldozer churned
up a tooth. Further investigation yielded one of the most complete ape skeletons
known from the Miocene Epoch (about 22 to 5.5 million years ago). Salvador
Moyà-Solà of the Miquel Crusafont Institute of Palaeontology in Barcelona and
colleagues subsequently found parts of the skull, ribcage, spine, hands and
feet, along with other bones. They have assigned it to an entirely new family
and species: Pierolapithecus catalaunicus.

Monkey business

Great apes are thought - on the basis of genetic and other evidence - to have
separated from another primate group known as the lesser apes some time between
11 and 16 million years ago (The lesser apes include gibbons and siamang). It is
fascinating, therefore, for a specimen like Pierolapithecus to turn up right in
this window.

Scientists think the creature lived after the lesser apes went their own
evolutionary way, but before the great apes began their own diversification into
different forms such as orang-utans, gorillas, chimps and, of course, humans.
"Pierolapithecus probably is, or is very close to, the last common ancestor of
great apes and humans," said Professor Moyà-Solà.


The new ape's ribcage, lower spine and wrist display signs of specialised
climbing abilities that link it with modern great apes, say the researchers.
The overall orthograde - or upright - body design of this animal and modern-day
great apes is thought to be an adaptation to vertical climbing and suspending
the body from branches. The Miocene ape fossil record is patchy; so finding such
a complete fossil from this time period is unprecedented. "It's very impressive
because of its completeness," David Begun, professor of palaeoanthropology at
the University of Toronto, Canada, told the BBC News website. "I think the
authors are right that it fills a gap between the first apes to arrive in Europe
and the fossil apes that more closely resemble those living today."

Planet of the apes

Other scientists working on fossil apes were delighted by the discovery. But not
all were convinced by the conclusions drawn by the Spanish researchers.
Professor Begun considers it unlikely that Pierolapithecus was ancestral to
orang-utans. "I haven't seen the original fossils. But there are four or five
important features of the face, in particular, that seem to be closer to African
apes," he explained. "To me the possibility exists that it is already on the
evolutionary line to African apes and humans."


Professor David Pilbeam, director of the Peadbody Museum in Cambridge, US, was
even more sceptical about the relationship of Pierolapithecus to modern great
apes: "To me it's a very long stretch to link this to any of the living apes,"
he told the BBC News website. "I think it's unlikely that you would find
relatives of the apes that live today in equatorial Africa and Asia up in
Europe. "But it's interesting in that it appears to show some adaptations
towards having a trunk that's upright because it's suspending itself [from
branches]. "It also has some features that show quadrupedal (four-legged)
behaviour. Not quadrupedal in the way chimps or gorillas are, but more in the
way that monkeys are - putting their fingers down flat," he explained. During
the Miocene, Earth really was the planet of the apes. As many as 100 different
ape species roamed the Old World, from France to China in Eurasia and from Kenya
to Namibia in Africa.


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