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From: KutchScience

Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: New Dinos :
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/07/04/safrica.dinosaur.reut/ this link is
inactive now

Dear Science friends,



(More information mail and correspondences to University of Florida and
Geologists and anthropologist are attached in attached mail and all attachments)



Kutch was a part of (new science name) Gondwanaland = Old name JUMBU DWIPE-
Jambu dwip, BHARAT KHANDE- Bharat Khand was a Indian plate (including kutch).



According to VEDA these words means that. JUMBU DWIPE BHARAT KHANDE - JUMBU
DWIPE - BHARAT KHANDE.



We can not deny Vedas word and neither the SARASWATI (ancient Saraswati river)
river basin. And its archaeology.



So we need to prepare our selves and others to understand and evaluate not only
VEDAs but also Kutch the original part of Gondwanaland (Jambu Dwip).



More are there like South Africa. Only need is to observe and sight to observe
(archaeological Divya Chakshu)



THE EARLY MAN
There are evidences of the Early man in Kutch · It is believed
that kutch was a part of the 'Gondvana' continent (African continent) millions
of years ago when the present Kutch Saurashtra was part of the East Africa.
Stone Age tools were found from the gravels of Bhuki river near Nakhatrana.
Stone Age tools have also been discovered from other parts of Gujarat confirming
the advent of the Early Man from Africa to India. The original settlers in Kutch
were aborgins who were probably driven out down south of Vindhyachal by the
tribes who migrated to Kutch from the north and west .



This link is inactive now
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/07/04/safrica.dinosaur.reut/

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (Reuters) -- The remains of a two-ton dinosaur have
lurked in a South African university for more than 20 years -- but only now have
researchers realized it is the oldest direct ancestor of the largest creatures
ever to walk the earth.

Scientists said Thursday that the fossil, dug up in 1981, was the earliest known
example of a sauropod, the group of giant plant-eating reptiles that ruled the
Jurassic world between 205 and 145 million years ago.

The fossil is 215 million years old, and represents a new species of sauropod
that would have been the largest land animal of its time, weighing 1.8 tons and
stretching 26 to 33 feet from nose to tail.

"We have got a very, very early sauropod ... the earliest yet found," said Adam
Yates, a palaeontologist at Johannesburg's University of the Witwatersrand.

Small compared to relatives
Yates first noticed that the forgotten fossil had been wrongly classified when
he was a visiting research student.

"I was so lucky that no one else had moved on this specimen before," he said.

Antetonitrus ingenipes, as Yates has named his find, is a minnow compared to its
grandchildren. Argentinosaurus, probably the largest sauropod, has a strong
claim to be the heaviest land animal of all time, weighing 100 tons.

"This discovery tells us a lot about the way the group actually developed ...
Antetonitrus is not a giant yet but it gives us some clues as to the evolution
of gigantism," Yates said.

Classified wrong
Previously the earliest known sauropod was the 210-million-year-old Isanosaurus,
found in Thailand.

Antetonitrus was found by veteran fossil hunter James Kitching in 1981. But the
remains were initially classified as belonging to the prosauropod group, and
left to gather dust in the university's archaeology institute.

Sauropods were the first dinosaurs to walk on four short, equal-length legs,
while their prosauropod predecessors had shorter fore-limbs than hind-limbs and
were scavengers as well as grazers.

Yates noticed that the creature's backbone had sauropod characteristics, and
after intensive study he and Kitching reclassified it as a new sauropod species
in a paper published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society.

From Yours : Dr. BHUDIA.- Science Group Of INDIA.

President:"Kutch Science Foundation".
Founder President:"Kutch Amateurs Astronomers Club - Bhuj - Kutch".
Life Member:"kutch Itihaas Parishad".

kutchscience@..., kutchscience@...,

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NEW; http://www.gujaratplus.com/mypage/KUTCH_SCIENCE_FOUNDATIN_-_MAY_2003.html

http://www.gujaratplus.com/mypage/WelCOME_to_the_Board_of_Science_Group_Of_INDIA\
_2004.html


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To: Perran Ross
Cc: christopher-brochu@... ; Madras Croc Bank ; romulus whitaker
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: Crocodile "DINO"saurs in MADHAPAR & KUTCH!!!


Dear James Perran Ross
Executive Officer, Crocodile Specialist Group
Florida Museum of Natural History
Dickinson Hall, Box 117800
University of Florida

Thank you for your interests in above subject, now excavation is under way
in Kutch, I do forward my letters of some projects and visit to those
places.(photo & letter attached).
also some of the report from oil & natural gas commission - and Coal mine.
Coal mine news are in Local Gujarati. you may need assistance to translate
to English - Gujarati news Paragraph 3 says Fossil of 9 meter long
crocodilians. (please download appropriate fonts - Gujarati from net to
display it correctly)
also we found Belemnites fossils in the rock with the ammonites in same
layers - dating back to 170 mn years old.

From Yours : Dr. BHUDIA.- Science Group Of INDIA.

President:"Kutch Science Foundation".
Founder President:"Kutch Amateurs Astronomers Club - Bhuj - Kutch".
Life Member:"kutch Itihaas Parishad".

kutchscience@..., kutchscience@...,

Just click on web page NEW; http://uk.geocities.com/wildlifeofkutch/

NEW;
http://www.gujaratplus.com/mypage/WelCOME_to_the_Board_of_Science_Group_Of_INDIA\
_2004.html


http://www.gujaratplus.com/mypage/Welcome_to_the_Board_of_"_Kutch_Science_Founda\
tion_".html



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Perran Ross" <prosscsg@...>
To: "Kutch Science @ hotmail" <kutchscience@...>
Cc: <christopher-brochu@...>; "Madras Croc Bank"
<sthiru@...>; "romulus whitaker" <draco@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: Subject: Fw: Crocodile "DINO"saurs in MADHAPAR & KUTCH!!!


> Dear Dr. Bhudia,
>
> Thanks for your interesting preliminary report of crocodilian fossils from
> Kutch.
>
> We would be interested to recieve additional details as your research on
> this topic proceeds.
>
> Sincerely
>
> James Perran Ross
> Executive Officer Crocodile Specialist Group
>
> At 05:08 PM 6/13/2002, you wrote:
> >From: <mailto:kutchscience@...>Kutch Science
> >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:32 AM
> >Subject: Crocodile "DINO"saurs in KUTCH
> >
> >Dear Science Friends,
> >
> >I would like to write YOU all of our expert GEOLOGIST, Archaeologists
and
> >ANTHROPOLOGIST on the subject of the new Geological researches. WE have
> >seen fossils of "Crocodiles" in "GUNAWARI" at GANGESWAR Dome. Shree DAS
> >surveyed KUTCH for ONGC mission and on mining project for ONGC. He
> >observed the importance of KUTCH on geological science. some of the
> >fossils he declared as Mesozoic (Ammonites +208Mn years and some
> >CROCODILES "cretaceous period" 140 Mn years together at the same place
> >with a VAST time difference of more than 65Mn Years). Some experts are in
> >favour of those DINO "Supercroc " are Prejurassic - Triassic +200 Mn
years
> >rather than "cretaceous period" 140 Mn years.
> >
> >What we are thinking of the Fossils of the "crocodiles" are actually the
> >ancestors (10-12meters size and according to the wildlife expert David
> >Attenborough "Marine Dinosaurs") of the present time Crocodiles of 4
meter
> >size.
> >
> >some describes as "CROCODILIAN" ancestors of many species and that of
> >crocodiles and some explain as "Supercroc" "DINO". Those "sarcosuchus"
> >ancestors of crocodiles had protruding teeth and armoured plate and
> >lifespan of more than 110 years compared to 70 years of present life span
> >of the crocodiles.
> >
> >Mesozoic Ammonites +205Mn years and some CROCODILIANS of the "cretaceous
> >period of - JUNGLES IN KUTCH" +140 Mn years together at the same place
> >with a VAST time difference of 65Mn Years makes us to re-think about the
> >time scale and to understand geology of KUTCH, wildlife, environment,
> >history and fossils history.
> >
> >Perhaps we need to ask our expert geologist Shree DAS to visit KUTCH
again
> >and give us an expert second opinion on the subject to support the New
> >research of Kutch geology. I think this time every one should consult
such
> >an experts who are in our touch and known to us to give their advise for
> >the benefit of the science of Geology.
> >Yours Dr. Bhudia. Science Group Of INDIA.
> ><mailto:kutchscience@...>kutchscience@...,
> ><mailto:kutchscience@...>kutchscience@...,
>
><http://www.geocities.com/kutchscience2000>www.geocities..com/kutchscience20
00
> >http://profiles.yahoo.com/kutchscience
> >
> >President:"Kutch Science Foundation".
> >Founder & Founder President:"Kutch Amateurs Astronomers Club - Bhuj -
Kutch".
> >Life Member:"kutch Itihaas Parishad".
>
> James Perran Ross
> Executive Officer, Crocodile Specialist Group
> Florida Museum of Natural History
> Dickinson Hall, Box 117800
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL 32611 USA
> Phone 1 352 846 2566
> fax 1 352 392 9367
>
>


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